Jane Jacobs: Neighborhoods in Action 

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Or we can build traditional neighborhoods across the city, not just downtown and the neighborhoods on the edge of it. Just a thought you know

I think possibly that she might think of farmers markets as an intrinsic part of a good community, rather than something special for the rich to show off

Ask yourself why farmers markets are only popping up in higher income areas.... and why the farmers need to sell at such high prices just to turn a small profit...

A lot of the "farm produce" at our market here in Hamilton comes from the Ontario Food Distribution Centre - the same place the grocery chains get it.

A market is not the same as a farmers market. Farmers markets consist of small local farms selling their own produce. Go to the weekly market in any town center in the Netherlands and you'll find a ton more stuff and it will be priced comparably to the grocery stores. Markets make it fun and interesting to be in a place.

Hi, I know this is an older thread, but I just want to throw in my 2¢. 🙂 *_"Another yuppy fantasy."_* Yup! So asparagus costs $8.00/bundle, and that is just waaay too pricey for most households, including mine (at least no more than enough for Christmas dinner), There's no doubt about it. But I'd suggest that maybe you're shopping at the wrong place. Those kind of prices only attract a very particular type of customer: the common North American simpleton-poseur. Many times, I've heard of vendors buying "farmers' market" type produce from Costco or Safeway (for example), for their market stall. Maybe they'll source some cheap (or even free - to them!) misshapen vegetables, or rub some soil on their cob corn husks in a few strategic spots, or mix a few unripe or bruised apples with the good ones. Voilà the authentic "10-Mile Diet" look. After that, it's just a matter of making a cardboard sign or two with a Sharpie, passing all of it off as organic and locally grown, sell it at double the Costco retail price, and rake in the dough. Just do what the Sea-Monkey or Pet Rock people did! Suckers will line up faster than you can sing "Cha Cha Cha Chia!" The vendor and customer, _they_ are the yuppies. I'd even bet that each knows _exactly_ what the other is up to. The customer wouldn't dare question the price of that asparagus, lest some eavesdropping neighbourhood Karen hear the haggling and think "Tsk tsk, homeboy can't even afford a bundle of asparagus!" And as "homeboy" leaves with his farmers' market treasures, he paints that overused, self-satisfied look on his _Backpfeifengesicht._ It's a win-win! I guess all I'm saying is, when you're part of a non-gentrified, real salt of the earth type, family and pet friendly neighbourhood with daycare and an independent coffee bar (yadda, yadda, yadda), your investigation eventually pays off, because now you know where to find the good stuff. You'd never consider buying anything from that yuppie-ass farmers' market. It's imported European oregano versus BC Bud. Sell the oregano to the yuppies, and keep the bud for yourself. In turn, he can go work on his own durn neighbourhood. I think that might be how Jane Jacobs would see it, if I may be so bold... OK, fine, whatever. I can hear your eyes rolling, you know. Sorry for the length of my rant. This quarantine is nothing but unrelenting boredom, and I just killed me some time.