Graeme O'Neil takes a look at part 1 of the Janet Jackson documentary, including Janet on how Michael Jackson affected her own career, and Paula Abdul getting emotional on what it was like to be help Janet take control.
@@sean75005 She lied about what???? MrJoe never denied any of his outside children or the outside children of his children’s outside children. She told the truth, there was no baby. Someone put the rumor out and it took wings like all the other lies did about the Jacksons. James jumped on the bandwagon Brandon and Omer were welcomed with open arms as the other grandchildren. Mr Joe was proud of his offsprings. So to remark that she lied, where is your proof. What do you know that no one else doesn’t?? To make a statement such as this you need to come with proof.
When she got emotional seeing that mural of her brothers, it made me tear up too, because the media has done and said SO MANY nasty things to ruin The Jackson’s legacy, however those of us from Indiana, ESPECIALLY from Gary and the surrounding areas (like where i’m from) we have ALWAYS BEEN SO PROUD of them and stuck by them NO MATTER WHAT and I just wish they knew how greatly they are respected, celebrated and loved.
That was one of my favorite moments from the doc. It made me a little emotional too. I think that Janet felt so proud of her brothers and felt so much love from that mural, but I also think she got emotional because of Michael 🥺❤️.
For those of us that grew up with the the Jackson’s and Janet Jackson, we can certainly appreciate how she’s allowed us to see her emotionally vulnerable. I teared up when Janet Jackson because you can connect with her pain, especially as it relates to her past relationships. She’s always been a major songbook in my life as a teenager in the 80s and then college in the 1990s. May God continue to keep, watch and bless Janet. We’re just glad she’s living to share a glimpse of her story. ❤️🙏🏽
One scene had me crying. I think it was when she was talking about James. So sad and thank goodness she moved on from him. Sadly he is so strung out these days. I don't know what would have happened to Janet had she stayed with him. The entire DeBarge family ended up on drugs and that might have been Janet's fate.
@@glw5166 I am watching now and seeing Janet STILL broken up and in pain over James and his drug use/destruction has me literally 😭. Ughh, seeing my girl in pain wrecks me, but glad that she was able to have enough fortitude and respect to leave. He and the DeBarge family would have destroyed her for sure with sadly their multitude of issues, abuse and additions. Whew! I am proud of Janet for being so vulnerable and allowing us a glimpse into her life. I grew up with Janet, she is only two years older than me and she and Prince were the soundtracks of my life. Forever grateful to this amazing woman and musician/performer..❤🙏🏾
So true. I was thinking after watching this that Paula is as responsible for Janet's image as anyone is. She contributed the style that we know as Janet.
Paula did an interview saying Janet showed her breast on purpose to get clout.(during Superbowl controversy) Paula is jealous of Janet. Paula is fake and phony. Except when it's convenient. That is what I see. She is a frienemy for sure. Janet knows it.
@@sunflowerpwr.8821 I don't think that Randy and Janet would have included her unless all is good these days. Nipplegate was a long time ago after all and people who don't live in the past know how to forgive and move on.
I feel like she was holding back but I think she gave us enough, more than she needed to and I appreciate it because she didn’t have to. I loved the never before seen footages and seeing Rebbie and her mother
What people don’t realize is whatever happens to celebrities after they leave the stage is none of our business. Marlon said once “ people think they know us by seeing us on stage and they don’t! We are totally different people”! On stage they are working, they are giving the fans what they came to see: An excellent show. Just think of this you will never hear or see a Jackson sibling sticking their nose in other people business or disrespecting their elders. Their parents did it right. They were taught values and morals. Bloggers and reporters are still scraping the bottom of the barrel trying to make a Nickle off the Jackson name.
I think it's done brilliantly so far, she is trying to compact a 50 year career into 4 hours with commercials. She addressed the rumor about not having a child by James Debarge, this is not a platform for her to address every rumor, she is talking about her life in the business and growing up in a family dynasty. Love it, love her, love the Jackson family...💯❤️🙌😻👍🏼🔥
I kinda understand why people think this documentary isn’t revealing much so far. It does go over some things we already know. But we’re getting to hear from Janet herself and we’re able to see things a little clearer and up close.
I think she did amazingly well, having still success when you are a sister of an ultimate king of pop. I don’t know anyone who could achieve that. That only proves she is phenomenal and the song she did with MJ is epic, their voices are so unique.
This documentary was absolutely amazing. I recommend everyone, Janet fan or not to watch it. You will learn A LOT about her and her family. Her protective shield that she surrounded herself with her whole life actually came down for once.
I mean reality she revealed a lot, she didn’t have too…it’s none of our business because we as people aren’t perfect…plus I can care less what others do so why would she have to explain anything. I LOVE Janet. And I’m glad she’s telling her story. From her mouth. She didn’t have too and I appreciate it. She’s a legend.
The mural of the Jackson brothers would make her cry for two reasons: (1) Michael (2) When they left Indiana for California, the Jacksons seemed to have forgotten about Indiana but Indiana never forgot about them.
yeah, it's clearly a very complicated relationship. To come from those circumstances and build what the family did would require some tough love. I still don't agree with the "discipline" and her justifying it by saying they showed us love afterwards. But yeah, you can't completely strip away what he achieved.
@@GraemeONeil I do feel there in an element of racism in the way Joe is dehumanised and monsterized in the media & his behaviour basically used as a license to disrespect the family by making cruel jokes. There are worse fathers, like Jamie Spears, Ryan o neal, or Aaron Carter’s mother.. but the media singles out the black father who never stole from his kids & gave them their independence when they wanted it, Only Joe’s children have a right to talk about him coz they were the ones affected & we should respect their feelings. Michael also loved his father & forgave him. I didn’t like when Bette Middler tweeted she was dancing in joy at Joe’s death cheering “the monster is dead”.. that was just grotesquely insensitive, monstrous & disrespectful to the mourning family and hell yeah it was racist.
@@GraemeONeil In my small town where I grew up/live....the discipline was very much a normality here as well. As a child it does seem abusive and hurtful. I mean I guess. Looking back on what I was heading down.......that discipline and tough love saved my ass. And we are here as a wonderful family now because of it. 3 kids I remember getting everything when I was young just by asking. He-Man, Nintendo, all the latest this and that.......no discipline what so ever. 2 are dead. 1 has been in jail almost constantly since 1992. Speaks volumes doesn't it?
there are many version, but the real one from Michael and Jermaine, when they was beaten with belt, cable ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-v-9q0JpomIw.html
@@globalcitizenn I really hate when people call him a demon ,they don’t know him , they don’t know anything about the Gary Indiana’s of the United States, they just love the Jackson’s talent and how they entertain the world. I still don’t condone the form of discipline though.
This is a pretty engaging documentary. Janet has been so private and guarded for decades that it is nice to see her unplugged. The never before seen footage by Rene really reveals a lot. She's worked very hard her entire life and it didn't come easy just because she's a Jackson. She earned everything. I confess though that I thought LaToya might be interviewed. Maybe in part 2.
I cried throughout JANET JACKSON" Documentary because I was there at the time when she was going through some of her issues I experienced the same thing! 😥 We both had a strict upbringing, and heartbreak, and when you free yourself sometimes you still don't know where you fit in. 💔😞 I've always supported the Jackson family when the media build them up only to tear them down! Love you, Janet. Your music has healed my world!👏👏👏 🙏💜😘❤❤❤
I'm glad this wasn't sensational or scandalous but one's story. I don't expect her to tell us all of her secrets, but the doc seems very open. I'm glad to see Paula Abdul talking about Janet. I'm glad to see both ladies in a better space. Watching the evolution of Janet is pretty extraordinary. She's so humble. I see no arrogance in her which u do see in a lot of successful people.
It’s funny cause watching old clips of the Vegas residency…..you can clearly see that young Janet was destined to be this huge star. She loved being on stage in front of people. A natural
Both parts of the documentary is amazing it made me smile in some parts because of memories being a little girl idolizing her and of course made me cry on parts when she talked about her family, MJ and her relationship etc. Janet is amazingly strong and as is along with her entire family has impacted the entire world and generations❤️❤️❤️
I love JANET as well, had a slow tears watching this as the first two episodes covered the years I grew up in the States loving Music and Dance. I adored THE JACKSON FIVE and Michael Jackson yet when JANET released CONTROL I loved her Energy which can be seen since she was a toddler in the footage. The tears fell when RANDY JACKSON and JANET were touring the GARY INDIANA house and still grappling with the spectre of JOE JACKSON, Disciplinarian. I also felt deep empathy for JANET as she was bombarded by people asking her about Michael Jackson Instead of Praising HER for her awesome Performances. You are spot on with your observations Graeme and I believe Justin Timberlake has More Apologies to give JANET as he was nothing more than a Coward and low character after the Superbowl Performance.
I enjoyed it. My thoughts, you're human, we all go through challenges in life. And, that is your career. God bless you Janet. Take care of your lil boy.🙏🏾
Even though she’s tied to the Jackson name that does it mean or exclude the fact that she was feeling pain so she deserves to feel as much love as she wants to. It’s hard time to talk about stuff. I’m tired everybody just making her seem like she’s gotta stay quiet she’s a woman to she has feelings too. And she came from Indiana like all of us
And yet despite these feelings Janet becomes a legitimate superstar in her own right. Highly commendable and speaks to the quality of person that she is.
Graeme, you are the only Entertainment Journalist I am Subscribed to, I like your perspective and hope you Prosper in your desired Career. gwendolin from Belfast Northern Ireland x!
It's beautiful to see two fantastic women supporting each other. Much respect ♡♡ and no question, Janet has class, JL didnt show much class with her book in my opinion ♡
So far, this documentary isn't revealing all that much about Janet. But it's well structured and definitely nice to hear her life story told through her voice.
The first 2 minutes caught me off-guard and made me emotional. Then....her struggle with James Debarge (whom we all know physically abused Janet.....and struggled with drug addiction, like many siblings in the Debarge family). That was really, REALLY heavy, for me (emotionally). Thirty-seven years later and it still gets her. I thought the producers were going to include the 2012 footage of James Debarge's testimony, on [tv. show] "Dr. Drew". Per James Debarge [in 2012]: Michael prevented him from jumping off the roof.....and committing suicide. Like, *DAMN!!*
yeah, opening with that mural moment was really powerful. It was extremely candid (as she was talking about something else), and we rarely see Janet get emotional like that, and it also subtly set up the theme of her having to build a career being in the shadow of them (initially). Side note: where's Janet's mural in Gary, Indiana? :)
Debarge was the sadest Unsung ep I ever watched. James learned abuse from Robert Debarge Sr. who physically verbally and sexually abused his wife and children. But the focus is/was on Joe Jackson? Come on ! Discorved by Jermaine, in an elevator at Motown Records in LA, they ( sang accapella for him on the spot ) they were supposed to be the Jackson's ( with only 1 girl tho) of the future. Bobby Debarge dated Latoya Jackson for a min ( he allegedly wrote I'll Call Your Name for her) also and the families were close.(still are ) Momma D who is still with us and wrote a book is good friends with Katherine Jackson. The inrony is Micheal and the family tried to help them with the drug problem and he winds up later in life addicted.....
I feel Robert Sr got away with it do to him being a white man and the fact it was the late 50's to early 70's nobody cared then about a white man abusing a black women. No media picked it up or wants to. Thank god momma D wrote that book
honestly im so excited for the renaissance this doco is gonna have on her music! finally ppl from a younger generation are gonna be exposed to her numerous hits! i feel like young ppl started recognising and giving brandy her flowers when cinderella was re-released so i hope the same happens for janet.
The only other time that I have seen Janet actually cry cry was during the one scene in Why Did I Get Married, Too. It was right after Michael had died and Tyler said that he would halt production of the movie so Janet could grieve and she went right back to work with everybody. The scene where Janet was on the stairs and the ladies were surrounding her was real were real tears and Tyler left that part in the movie.
Janet we have always loved you for you. Honestly I dont think we know another way. You will always be a Jackson yes, but honestly your shine sparkled differently. You definitely created your own star. What's interesting is that Janet is to me the closes singer, dancer and entertainer that we have to Michael, yet she has always stood and still stands as her own individual. You were fighting for "Control" but to me your voice, your soul was always your own. Much love Ms. Janet Jackson. #Nasty
I feel like there was a lot that was unsaid. I like to just know how the rest of her siblings were doing no mention of Latoya. Cause they were beefing at one time, and how her last husband treated her not so kind. I love Janet the girls seem to be so sheltered. GOD bless her. But like she said she could only fit so much in 4 hrs
I'm 59now when I seen Janet on television when Janet was a little girl I thought one day she's going to be a big star and ma ma said the same thing about Micheal ever one of the Jacksons are individual stars love them God bless them all .
And we have to keep it 💯 Caucasians have always been the core of trying to destroy the family because of their success. You see they didn't even want them in the subdivision, even with them being stars. That has not changed much in 2022, they have and always will have a problem with their legacy and that they are the most influential family in music history ever.. facts.. 💯💯👍🏼🙌
Actually their Neighbors in Encino wanted the Jacksons out not because the Jackson's are Black, but because it was a very quiet neighborhood and the Jacksons threw large parties and the guest took up the street with parking and the Jackson's had a zoo on their property.. It was a lot of traffic going in and out of the Jackson house.. It has nothing to do with race.. Many celebrities regardless of race have been asked to move away or at the very least limited the traffic going in and out of their home.. And lets not forget all the photographers who use to cause havoc trying to snap photos of the Jacksons.
@@mamadouaziza2536 She said if my ears work that people in her subdivision use racial slurs to the family when walking by their house, I would equate that to race..
@@ricky6935 Yes, Janet did say that but it was not a done deal pertaining to Neighbors wanting the Jackson's out of the area because they are Black.. Just because a neighbor insults you racially does not automatic mean they want to remove you from the area because of your race.. I think.a lot had to do with all the chaos the Jackson's caused by moving into the area..
@@mamadouaziza2536 was it their fault? Celebrities have to live somewhere, it was race because i worked with many white people and they kids go crazy at night and nothing is done about it and the police is never called, please stop and call it what it is, RACISM.
I took off work for Part 2, along with the snow storm and well worth it. Both Part 1, Part 1 and 1/2 and Part 2 were literally everything and much, much more. Paula and Janet literally sound like one another and you can tell that they spend some serious time together. Most are still under the impression that Paula taught Janet how to dance and that is just false. Janet's doc, show her being a tiny girl dancing on the variety show with her family, so the woman always knew how to cut a rug. Paula and Janet were literally this magic pairing though and it seemed they needed one another. Paula's choreography was so amazing and literally brought out Janet. Janet basically helped Paula carve a career for herself, so these now women, who were young girls at the time, literally shook up the world and still able to do so. Paula called Janet her little sister and her getting emotional because they truly love one another, regardless of whatever most thought. As far as Janet not sharing enough, I feel she shared what was necessary. She cleared up a few things that has loomed over her career for decades. Janet managed to talk about her exes and what they had, and what went wrong, without making them seem like monsters. Discussing your life that consist with others is hard to do. Think about an 18 year old bride, away from everyone she knows and loves, along with the facts that no one knew she was even getting married. Here she is, on her alleged honeymoon and left alone for hours because her groom has addiction issues that she literally just found out about. Just that aspect of the doc, was literally heartbreaking and when she relived her life with James, it was emotional to watch. Come on, she got JD to talk and she gave up her personal, homemade movies with Rene, which were rich..... Janet has always been a 'Boss Babe', and this is another notch on her 'Boss Legacy', "Don't Hate!!!!" . I always said Janet has never said a bad thing about a soul and when ppl were coming for her, it was just wrong because those Jackson kids literally have been "The CEO(s) of Keep On Keeping On Production", they deal with adversity as a family and keep it moving. Granite, they are human and allowed to feel joy, love, and pain but until this moment, you would never know that all the media hype would have the affect on them. They were literally babies, especially Janet being in a business that they not only grew up in but truly love with every inch of their being.
We all knew she was married to James, we all knew most of the Debarge family had drug problems, but what I didn’t know that he had a drug problem while they were married, and that she spent most of their marriage battling his addiction. Also didn’t know she didn’t won’t to do FAME. There was a lot to unpack for me.
At about 30 seconds thereabouts when you said oh I love that with respect you are your own person but your tone of voice and everything sounded exactly like your brother Michael I have never said such a thing before and I say it to with respect but I heard him say that sometime or another and then when you said it I was like whoa anyhow I love you hugely Janet you are your very own person you're very own music you're you and I love you for you you okay I love all of your family individually with utmost respect not because of Michael Michael's his own person yes you were all a group yes you're all a family but you're also all very individual and I love you Janet God bless you in Jesus my name tears are just flowing from my face right now and I don't know why. So at one minute and 25 seconds then all of a sudden I hear you saying that you wish that you could just go by your first name and I had just said you're your own individual this is really freaking me out today this is really freaking me out because I'm saying things before I'm even hearing people say things this is freaking me out you're your own person precious lady and not because I heard it because I really believed it always always always I love your brothers but even after Michael died when the rest of your brothers used to do tours and in the comments everybody would say oh it's not the same without Michael yeah you know what God let him be the rest of the family are their own individuals with her by group or however you all do it this is freaking me
I agree with you. She talked about her relationship with her family her dad her love relationships. She talked about the industry the super bowl situation. She brought it full circle to current times and with her baby and with her getting inducted into the Hall of Fame. I thought it was good.
Legends of the 80s If I had the magic powers I'll take all the talented musicians from the 80s, dead or alive and travel back in time, to the 80s and live through the 80s again with them. Same with movie stars.
It has been such an extraordinary and enjoyable few weeks watching the documentary.... What shocked me the most is that - she had slipped from my own radar.... As a teenager, she was a staple in my top 10 consistently.... How did i - forget her?? HOW did that happen? The documentary helped me to make sense of that too.... It's time for Janet Justice and for a big fat apology and re crowning for her from those shade makers that put their financial power behind blocking her star - over nothing really.... Karma wins every time.... look at Moonves now! The documentary has not only returned Janet to my radar, but for the last 3 weeks she's been my number one and i reckon she'll stay there for quite a while yet!
Exactly! The Jacksons are very private, besides Lotoya who was chasing clout by throwing micheal to the hands of his enemies. Same as Jamie Lynne, did the same thing to poor Britney; "Jealous of the breadwinne"
With all due respect, I would love to hear *why* and *how* you came to this expressed conclusion that “Latoya was chasing clout by throwing Michael to the hands of his enemies,” precisely. I, genuinely and wholeheartedly, am not trying to be disrespectful, nor am I being an asshole or antagonistic with what I am saying to you. However, I continue to feel baffled by how many people still have this relatively ignorant, ill-conceived, short-sighted, ill-informed, inadequate, and incorrect perspective and personal sentiment regarding the entire situation and specific circumstances surrounding Latoya and why she started saying a bunch of false nonsense the media and trashloids *[tabloids-in case that wasn't clear, lol],* including her first book, which was also a bunch of bullshit, about Michael and her family back in the early ‘90s. It is no secret, not to mention that it is easy to find a plethora of information on the matter, that Latoya was in an incredibly abusive “relationship” with her manager at the time, who not only forced and tricked her into marrying him, but he, furthermore, forced Latoya to say all of the things that she did as a means of obtaining money for the “stories,” and threatened to kill Michael if she didn't. This man is a man who beat the ever-living shit out of her, to which there is plenty of physical evidence and documentation, as well as a man who was a part of the mob and friends with Gotti and the rest of them, so this isn't “just some guy” who made bullshit threats to kill her brother. This man had the FBI doing surveillance on him, and they spoke to Latoya at some point because they knew that she didn't have anything to do with his illegal mob dealings. Latoya, Michael, and the rest of the family have spoken on this subject matter plenty of times, not to mention that Michael made it clear that he forgave Latoya for everything and that he didn't have any hard feelings because he knew the situation and circumstances behind why she was saying a bunch of fabricated nonsense. I don't enjoy saying this, however, to sum all of that up as being Latoya “chasing clout” is, quite simply, ridiculous, ignorant/naive, baseless, and callous/insensitive. On top of all of that, to relate or compare Latoya and the things that occurred with her to Jamie Lynn is equally as absurd and only highlights that you seemingly have not sufficiently informed yourself on what happened with and behind the Latoya situation precisely.
@@katek.4692 yes,Michael forgave(bless his memory😥),but this slander of his own sister instantly spread all over the world and stupid people believed her without knowing the reason for her behavior,and there can also be many husbands and a close brother,so you need to watch your speech🤔😥Michael EVER FOREVER💎👑💫⭐⭐💞
Missing in your beautiful being is JESUS your SAVIOR. I LOVE YOU ❤ Dearly SWEET Child of the most high. Paula I LOVE you too. Both MY youth grew Up along my days On earth. The Jackson's (Son's)
Is there a link to the this doc with no interruptions? It's hard to follow the flow when the film has inserts of dialog. Sorry not trying to be rude but the doc is hard to follow like this. Thanks!
