Hey Ben What's Up? Let me start by saying that I am one of the Biggest Janet Jackson Fans on the planet. I have seen her in person for her last 8 concerts. Yet I truly enjoyed your review of her Rhythm Nation Album. I love it but I hold no ill will to those who do not. That's what makes music so awesome. Everyone can listen and generate their own opinion. Janet Jackson has a particular style and groove that is not for everyone. That does not make you a black music hater just as your review does not diminish her undeniable influence on pop culture and modern day music artists. I only hope that you continue your musical introduction into Janet. You did enjoy her first album and I feel you may find some of her other albums more to your liking. But rather you continue or not, never let anyone stop you from being the honest, likeable, positive soul you are because those of us who support your channel truly love that about you. Rock On Brother!!!
Omg, this comment made my day! Thank you, not only for you incredibly kind words, but for being able to accept other people's opinions without it feeling like it's an attack on your own! So refreshing to read, truly! ❤️ The impact and awards this album received are incredible and I cannot deny that at all! I am keen to see what else she has, because she wouldn't be so iconic if she didn't have great stuff!
Comparisons are inevitable. She was very much like Michael in the 80s, with her dancing/choreography and singing/vocal inflections. She was, of course, inspired by Michael. But she eventually carved out her own space in the industry.
I generally hate comparisons between them, but in this instance, the main reason it sounds similar is because MJ spent the rest of his career emulating the sound of this record.
It is very interesting that a lot of people that are new to Janet's catalog but already know MJ (specially his work from HISTORY and forward) say that Rhythm Nations "sounds very MJ". But the fact is that Michael's music since Dangerous and History took a Janet sound. For History, for example, he used Janet's production team. He was a fan of RN and songs like The knowledge. Great review!
Sure. That, and I'll add that with the child molesting acusations he gravitated to her since she was in her peak . He used her production team and made her choose the video director for Scream (Mark Romanek). She got his back. That's what sbilings do@@bennshouts
I came here to make that comment. MJ said himself that he was inspired by RN and loved that "industrial sound". The Knowledge is his favorite. There is even video of him dancing to it.
And don't forgot the tour, because this was her first tour (She didn't tour during the ''Control'' era). She was a incredible dancer since she dance since she was young. 'Love Will Never Do'' video was shot after the ending of the tour (in november 1990) and she changed her look, you ear the wind turning after the end of her first tour who she adopted a new image more sexy and that was this image she adopted during the 90's and 2000's (since ''Love Will Never Do'' was the last single released of this album).
Okay Benn!! Janet Jackson has laid out such an incredible blueprint for "eras", one of the biggest stars and queens of pop, and the music doesn't lie! 1814 is a revelation, so excited you're listening!
@@kristianberg4264babe Normani referenced her in her VMA performance, Azealia Banks Anna Wintour video is a total homage to The Pleasure Principle. In Taylor and Lana’s “Snow on the beach” they sing “Now I’m All 4 U like Janet”. That’s just to name a few, plus Janet and Madonna are the blueprint for modern touring. Watch Janet MTV icon
It's a shame that people today don't want to hear a song that's longer than 2:30 or 3:00 minutes. I guess back in 1989 i didn't notice-- i was too busy grooving to the music. This album is one of my Lifetime Favorites. I graduated high school in 1989, and this album meant (and means) a lot to my generation. It's my generation's version of "What's Going On". I know the production sounds dated now, but that's what happens with music eventually. I look at this album (all albums, really) as a Universe you enter and journey through to the other side. Anyway, best of luck to you. I only watched about 12 minutes of the video-- it was too heartbreaking to see your looks of disgust and disappointment.
This album is her most successful charting album. 7 top 5 hits, 4 number 1 hot 100 singles and number album. Influence Michael Jackson and a lot of artists. Like it or not, this album made janet one of the most influential and blueprint female artists
RHYTHM NATION was not cult or religious based, The Rhythm Nation Album was inducted into The National Recording Registry at the Library of Congress because of its socially conscious content . The Rhythm Nation was #1 on The BILLBOARD 200 chart certified 6x Platinum in 1990 and the best selling album in the U.S. and sold 12 million worldwide.
Well I hope this album doesn’t deter you from continuing her discography because it keeps getting better from here on out. This album was New Jack Swing and the Minneapolis sound. Those were very popular sounds at this time, especially the former.
She took a huge risk with this conceptual album back then, I think. And it really paid off. She was young and successful artist, but angry about the state of the world, and kinda wanted to rub these subject matters in your face. Sometimes you just need to do that to make yourself heard. This was a huge album back then, she proved to be more than just a one album wonder. Sad thing is that these themes are still relevant today, one might say even more than 30 years ago.
Most songs you said were shit are the highest charting songs. Ironic right! Anyways, you're supposed to watch her music videos to enjoy the songs better. It helps with the vision! Also, that sound first before Michael did. He actually was influenced by her sound
Omg! Ben, your reaction is hilarios 😅. Maybe you'll appreciate it more if you have live through it, this album spawned 8 hit singles over 3 years. it's a phonomenon, and the videos were amazing too. After Madonna, Janet is probably my favorite diva of my Gen-X generation. This album meant so much to us. But I can respect your difference of opinion, such is art, it's subjective. Much love, keep it coming.
you’re trying way too hard to be negative and whiny throughout the video. the album is a classic and you’re entitled to your opinion, but the forced annoying attitude and lack of taste made me shut this off. Hopefully her other albums are up your alley tho!
Rhythm Nation 1814 - masterpiece of an album and one of my favs of hers. It's a shame that you didn't enjoy it as much but we're all entitled to our own opinions. Definitely worth a second listen from begining to the end. The sound might not sit well with you but this was the start of New Jack swing era that later dominated the sound of the late 80s and into early 90s which even Michael adopted (hence the "Michael Sound"). Also "R" is the 18th letter of the alphabet and "N" is the 14th letter. 1814 was also the year the Star Spangled Banner was written. Also, not sure you noticed but bells you loved at the end were at the begining too - this was to help tie it back to it's main purpose. Hopefully you'll enjoy her next album "janet" which has a different sound to it.
Oh Benjamin haha. You made me laugh watching your reaction he he he. I think a lot of JJ fans are gonna come for you. Now I'm not a massive JJ fan, she was out at the same time as Madonna, Whitney, Cyndi Lauper, etc. I always thought she had a weak voice just as you said but the difference with JJ is that she is more of a visual artist. I think you'll probably end up backtracking on your words/thoughts when you watch the music videos that go with these. They are nothing short of ICONIC and that is coming from a MASSIVE Madonna fan! This album had 7 singles released from it and they all went Top 5 - a record still to this day. While TikTok dances are all the rage now, I remember back in the day when these were released I taught myself all of the dances to Rhythm Nation, Miss You Much, Escapade and It's Alright. She swept the Billboard Awards for this album - she won 8 for it. I think when people think of JJ, they associate her with the Rhythm Nation era because of the strength of the visuals for this album.
This was her best album! The social injustice of all races of creeds sexual orientation. Black, White,Straight,Gay... all are welcomed and to be loved for who you are!!
i love this album and janet by the thumbnail idk if it will be ur thing😭, Janet and the velvet rope are great albums to this isn’t doing it for you😭😭 not even escapade such a perfect song
Dance was different then. Miss You Much was massive and yes, you can dance to it! But hey, we don't have to all like exactly the same stuff. I'm not that big of a Janet fan and find the album exhausting, but I do like the singles very much.
Yes I know people will whinge that I comment on song lengths. But again, in this reaction, I say one of the best songs is 6minutes and it flew by… which I say is ironic lol. I also comment on songs UNDER 3 minutes for being too short ;)
Oh benny...you’re a brave man for posting this! 🤣🤣🤣 Hats off to you!!! Lol. I loved Design of a Decade in high school - her Greatest Hits which includes radio edits of the 7 singles. So I have a soft spot for most of the songs on this album. Not just for the nostalgia, but because those industrial beats sound tough on a good system (to me, lol), especially Love will never do without you. And Lonely was a song I would listen to on repeat catching the bus to school in year 12. So many sweet memories. But that aside, oh lord, this reaction had me ROLLING!!! 🤣🤣🤣 I knew from the thumbnail it was gonna be a good one 👍 lmao. Please don’t let these queens get you down. As far as Janet goes, yes she can be a bit self-indulgent, with the pointless interludes, and over-long intros and outros, but the good moments are just magical, so IMHO definitely worth persisting with her discography. And sonically, it’s an outlier, so no need to fear any industrial beats in future albums (aside from a few self-referential moments in 20yo). Would be a shame for you to miss out on the next four records, especially Velvet Rope. PS Do you take requests from non-patrons? If so, where can i make one? Here?
HAHA, I know not everyone will enjoy it, but hey that's what a reaction is, right? 😂 Thanks for being understanding! And I'm glad you enjoyed my pain hahahahaha! I think I will see her next album and fingers crossed I enjoy it more than this lol. I do, people usually just comment, I have a list going, but it's just really hard to get to anything that isn't patron or new releases atm, time isn't my friend!
@@bennshouts *Amanda Marshall (1995)* You can add that to your list. I'll wait... 😁😁😁 Seriously though, should you feel like listening to some 90s pop/rock (leaning more towards rock) with a strong female vocal, I think you'd enjoy this. It never really took off outside of Canada, but those who know it, love it. I bought it after hearing the lead single, which got some airplay here in Oz, and it didn't leave my CD player for several months! I was in year 9 at the time, and I still give it a couple of spins about once a year. If you're too busy to react to it, try to at least give it a spin in your own time xx
@@bennshouts well it was a huge part of black music that Janet helped pioneer along with Jimmy Jam/Terry Lewis & Teddy Riley in the late 80/early 90s. And this album was actually a huge influence on her brothers 1991 Dangerous
@@bennshoutsand that’s where you went wrong. i think you need to expand your knowledge on black music specifically r&b back in the 80s and early/mid 90s. NJS was the most popular sound of the time then.
Not entirely sure why you listen to albums from previous decades if you aren’t open minded to the sound that was popular at the time. Just becomes you complaining and not fun for you or us
I react because I am literally paid to do so. I am open minded to ALL types of music and have enjoy albums that are even older than this - as my channel clearly shows. It doesn’t matter if the sound was popular… this is a reaction based upon who I am, what I enjoy and what’s influenced me. There are also others who agree on my take, so… are they closed minded too? I would say it’s pretty closed minded to judge me based on one reaction, I enjoyed the first album I reacted to her…
@@bennshouts I hoped you did it for pleasure not money, but I appreciate your honesty. Thanks for replying though, maybe I’ve just seen a few similar reactions now, which lead me to my ‘judgement’ or opinion.
Of course I do it for the enjoyment, any reaction I do, regardless of the outcome, the money is just a bonus haha. If you watched to the end I discuss the album in both a positive and negative light. I get it would have been impacted, I get the message, but I have also heard much strong ways of the message being done and that is because of time passed. It’s impossible to react to 20/30/40 year old music and not comment on it being aged, or dated in some cases, just like we can comment when something doesn’t sound dated etc. The album for me to similiar sounding, messy vocals and too long. I got what she was trying to do, it just didn’t work for me.
@@bennshouts really appreciate the response….I watch many of your videos so of course sometimes going to have varying standpoints. Not sure if this is a good idea or not, but would be interesting to see your reactions with some added context before or after- for example- miss you much- huge hit, but didn’t resonate with you (or me to be honest) But i would find it interesting to see you react to the stats/success of the album too- especially a huge success like this one. Just thoughts 🙏
Of course! I love to discuss any difference people have. The stats blow me away, someone else commented them, like truly so impressive and like I said I get why considering the time and what was going on etc, plus from a female artist, truly so good! I really wish I connected more
If you didn't like interludes, she always included interludes because theses albums was conceived to playing without pause. You didn,t support this aggressive, don't forgot that ''Nasty'' (from the ''Control'' album) have the same aggressive sound then this album. Also, i didn't understand the hate of ''Escapade'' since it's was more light then the others songs of this album and was very light musically. Also the video was pure joy and hapinness. Also, don't forgot that Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis (who produced totally all her albums between 1986 and 2001) was the musicians of Prince'' before the two left and started a career has a producer and Prince was also know to have a aggressive sound in his work at the base. This touch was a lot present with ''Control'' who have funk and industrial, the song ''Nasty'' was very aggressive sonically and was the lead in to this album. I love this industrial sound she made of this album, about talk a lot of socials issues, like the homeless (State of the World), racism (''The Knowledge''), the biracial (Love Will Never Do (Without you)) and also drug and violence (Black Cat). Also the song ''Livin in the World'' was wrote in memory of the victims of the mass shooting in the school of California in january 1989. The news at the end of the song was the new she heard in TV when she listen the news about the massacre in the school and she including that in the song. This was the inspiration behind a lot of songs of this album. Few tracks in the end of the album was about love. Also don't forgot the videos because her videos was influencals. For example, the video of the title-track was massive and was influencal for a lot of artists, notably her brother or others act like ''Beyoncé'' or ''Shakira''. It's was part for her 30 minutes documentary she turning for MTV for the released of this album who she including the two first singles naturally (Miss you Much and the title track) who it's was used for official videos and it's was the concept of the project. Also, the singles was ''Miss You Much'', ''Rhythm Nation'', ''Escapade'', ''Alright'' (who ''Alright'' was remixed for the released in single), ''Come Back to Me'', ''Black Cat'' and ''Love Will Never Do'', who all reaching the top 5 between 1989 and 1991 (four of them reaching n.1). Also, it's was one of the nine albums of history to produced four n.1 singles in a same album and the third female to achieved tht (the two first by a female was ''Whitney'' by Whitney Houston and ''Forever your Girl'' by Paula Abdul). And this album was also including of in a lot of musical book has one of the best albums of all-time.
You mean 180. 360 implies that it's more of the same because you return to the starting point.The Velvet Rope is way better. The best songs on janet are: That's the Way Love Goes, Throb, What'll I Do, and Funky Big Band.
I'm not surprised you didn't enjoy this album as much because of the new jack swing/industrial sound intentionally used to contrast her softer tone but I hope you continue your journey with Janet's discography and ignore the negative comments. I will say, that Janet as an artist does sex-positive and sultry like no one else and her work after Rhythm Nation explores that in depth. Also get used to interludes, and long songs and try to notice the interesting thing she does with layering her vocals, the harmonies and infectious melodies. I feel like The Velvet Rope will be the album you enjoy most because it's the first time she's extremely personal with what is happening in her life.
Her best album. Peak Janet for me. This had a huge impact. Was soooo fresh! And didn't sound like anything else at the time. The industrial-dance sound was C-O-O-L. This album and its videos and legacy are ICONIC. In 1989 pop wasn't generally political so this was a hugely defining artistic statement in a similar way that Madonna's Like a Prayer album was a hugely defining personal statement the same year. Both these albums had cultural and music industry impact that changed pop for other artists after this. Finally, after this album Janet went all soft a la Madonna's Bedtime Stories. And I lost interest in Janet immediately (Bedtime Stories is also one of my least favourite M albums,)
Awesome and honest reaction, Rhythm Nation is an awesome album for its time. I'm one of the hugest Janet fans too; her style is very eclectic. BUT I agree somewhat with the review of the album. The production is too long. The radio versions of her hits are WAY more palatable. What ur missing are the videos associated with her music. They take her songs to THE - NEXT - LEVEL. And then you begin to fully understand why she is who she is. Janet and The Velvet Rope are her best albums IMO. Especially the Velvet Rope - deep, moody, insightful and innovative. Sonically orgasmic and each song sounds different but works together nicely. I just may have to request a listen of it from you lol. Would luv to see ur review of it.
@bennshouts you did not just say. Think I'm just amazed that your impatience for an album that impacted a generation is a most unique way. Perhaps her videos will give you a different outlook. On the bright side, your video will get pushed through the algorithm cause of the likes and comments. I'll end with this. Janet had to step up her game during that Era because of the MJ comparisons and because she was up against some powerful voices and her efforts worked. It got her one of the biggest recording contracts in history. Peace ✌️ brother. I apologize for upsetting you.
People automatically take it personal on an opinion, especially bringing generational cohorts into it etc. It's not upsetting, more frustrating that people hold me to some standard that I must like and accept everything, I give an honest reaction and an opinion at the time, which can also change with time and relistens, you can't just only want to hear positive things about something, it doesn't allow you to view anything from a different perspective. I love that you love her and hold her with a high regard
I totally get that this album wouldn't be for everyone, the production and overall sound can be overwhelming, even as someone who loves this album, I need to be in the mood. I love your reviews and honesty and it's what makes music so fun, everyone will have a different feeling and opinion. You should definitely keep going as her next album Janet. is a lot softer production wise.
It was the #1 album of 1990 and it spawned 8 top-5 singles: Rhythm Nation, Miss You Much, Escapade, Alright, Come Back to Me, Love Will Never Do, Black Cat and State of the World, across three calendar years, which has never been done before. Black Cat won a Grammy for best Female Rock Vocal. The Long-form music video for the album won a Grammy. The album was inducted into the Library of Congress in 2020. The exercise isn't "let's see if it's good!" it's "let's see why it's good!," and a lot of people don't really realise that when they are listening to Janet Jackson for some reason. Nonetheless, you might like janet. and The Velvet Rope more -- her albums don't really sound similar to one another and these two are far less industrial. TVR in particularly also touches on some pretty heavy material so I actually recommend that one over janet. since it seems like you kind of want to feel something. All of her albums are long and they all have interludes, but TVR had the most valuable contract ever and JJ was the second most succesful female artist of the '90s after Mariah Carey, so again -- the exercise is "how is it good?"
Your reaction to this was my exact reaction to Lady Gaga's Born This Way album back in 2011. It was just a bunch of hard industrial-sounding noise to me - which is wild now in hindsight because that album is amazing. I generally feel Rhythm Nation 1814 was the same for me - but it's definitely helped by the videos and imagery that went along with it. It's such a shame because some of the singles from this album are actually some of my favourite songs ever - and you just looked disgusted!
It's a shame people of this generation have no attention span.They want songs commercial length. If our songs were bad we would've wanted them shorter too.
I cracked up so much during this reaction. The way you cringed during all of the hits. Haha. To be fair, Janet has never had the strongest vocals and I always thought she sounded better on ballads when the music was brought down. I never understood how Terry Lewis and Jimmy Jam used so many heavy beats that covered her delicate vocals but it’s worked for her. This is my favorite album from her besides “The Velvet Rope” which is the best of her career in my opinion
Omg can you please react to Cher's Take Me Home album & it's sister album 'Prisoner'? Underrated Gems especially since Cher's best album is 'Stars' which is only on RU-vid! but it'd be so cool to hear your thoughts on one of pop's biggest icons! Fun fact, Janet Jackson appeared on the Cher show as a little kid!
You don't know my generation, you're also perpetuating views people have of OLDER generations because you bring age into it. I have MANY songs that I love that are long in length, I also comment on artists who have SHORT songs. Because you know, I have diverse opinions. Also, I DO NOT CARE WHAT A FAN FAVOURITE IS. I DID NOT LIKE IT. GET. OVER. IT. Seriously. You are so triggered by an opinion.
@bennshouts lol ok fine. It's just that you wanted the song to be over before it got to a minute, and you need to realize those interludes those repetitive hooks inspired many of today's artists.
Wanting it over had to do with the sound, I don't like this genre of music, I don't connect and I found them to be very similar in sounding, so yes, I wanted it over and then when it went on too long, I commented on the length. I get she's inspired artists, but that doesn't mean we'll automatically like her?
@bennshouts Hey Benn, I really did not mean to upset you. I can't help with you like. Everyone's palette is different. To smooth things over, I would like to present to you Taylor Dayne. I'm sure you'll enjoy her style. She had a few hits back in the day. Hope that smooth things over, and if you don't like that, check out Billy Idol Eyes Without A Face❤️🙏🏽👊🏾
I was so excited for this guy’s reaction… my god I wish I could get this time back. Yes, I know that TikTok generation has no attention span, and we, as a collective have no patience due to technology in the rapid pace of things, but even people in his generation who are reacting to Janets’s music are not this negative. I get it, all opinions are subjective. But, I don’t know, the complaints… Never mind I’ll keep it classy. No fuck it, he sounds whinier than what he claims is so whiny about the music. It makes me wonder what he enjoys. Listening to now. But to be fair, yes, the album is long and the singles when they were released were definitely cut shorter. One final note, I was ready to get violent when he dissed miss you much 😂.
I enjoyed your honest review. I think that this would have gotten a stronger reaction if Beyonces' Lemonade would not have came out or maybe Ashanti or one of RIhanna's big cds. To me, this honestly was a prototype or really modeled after album. I also felt the same way about Mary J's first album. I enjoy your channel!
A Dance song comes on: "ugh too noisy... give me a ballad" .. A ballad comes on: "ugh too slow get it over with already" It's cool that this album didn't Vibe with you. It's a stretch to call Rhythm Nation and acquired taste with all of the number ones and records that it set and smashed at the time. It is no understatement to say that this album is a blueprint for many of the albums and artists that you probably really do enjoy. Rhythm Nation was a first in many regards, it's not insignificant to mention the time that this album was created, remember in the '80s regardless of the genre of music, black artists were only in one category called Black music. It wasn't until later that major Awards actually allowed black pop artists to compete and be nominated alongside their white counterparts, albums like Rhythm Nation helped shatter this practice mixing genres together in a way that hadn't really been done on a mainstream record setting album before. It's no secret that the 90s were an era of musical fusion, Janet Jackson's Rhythm Nation help set that tone, everything from R&B to Hip Hop and new Jack Swing were included in this album. Janet was one of the main artists including interludes as a central Focus to help spread the message of the album. If you've heard interludes on R&B albums before it is 100% because they were inspired by this album. Critiquing a Michael Jackson album without understanding his influence on Dance and his visual trailblazing impact would be would set you at a disadvantage, the songs on Rhythm Nation were certainly created to coincide with music videos which was also different than other artists prior to Michael and Janet artists would create music that stood alone. Having a narrative album with a concept and a complete set of music videos that were record-setting in and of themselves was a signature of Janet Jackson and Michael Jackson. Especially in an era when black music videos were not in heavy rotation until Janet and Michael stepped in. Again keep in mind if you've seen it before it's only because this icon helped set that trend. To that point if you're not watching any of the music videos for the songs on this album, I'd say you are missing. I think it's fair for the music to speak for itself but being as though you seem extremely sensitive to anything repeating or any volume or any loud sound or any length of time in music, that's sitting in extremely high bar. That is literally just sounds which music is just organized sounds. I digress, perhaps your experience would be a lot smoother if you educate yourself a bit about what was going on what the artist was up against and what else was happening in the world when the music was created especially if that person is a picture for sample part of a marginalized group like a black woman for instance.... I appreciate you listening and I appreciate you giving folks the opportunity to have a comment section and tell their opinions. It sucks that you didn't get out of this album and project what so many others did. But to each their own, hopefully you enjoy whatever next album you listen to
My comment is obviously pretty late but this popped up on my for you, so i wanted to take the time to comment as well since i feel strongly about the album and Janet. I think a large part that no one has mentioned is timing, and the artist and their demographic. The songs are long because people were in the clubs, having parties etc and dancing. Dance was still really big so the records needed to be able to be mixed by DJs and played so ppl can dance to it. The sound your hearing is by producers Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis that sound is called new jack swing/the Minneapolis sound. The sound was created by Prince, those guys used to work with him until they were fired. It was heavily popular at the time but specifically in America. Black artist did a lot of new jack swing, it was basically “trendy”. Lastly, i think when doing reactions demographic is most important, Janet is a black woman from America. The album is heavily political because it was important for her at the time as a young artist and especially black one to do a “call to action”. A lot of our music has that, because to be frank racism is a big deal in American and especially if you’re black. We care alot about it and this is not to be disrespectful at all but if you don’t feel passionate to the cause you won’t get it. We like the louder dance music, we like a good call to action, we like r&b and ballads. So of course I’m not blaming you for your opinion, but i will say i notice this opinion from those who won’t quite get it. You said it doesn’t have substance, but to me and alot of us it does, you just don’t understand and that’s totally okay. Regardless i liked the review because i enjoy a different perspective, Janet is the foundation for a lot of pop girlies who came after her. So maybe this wasn’t your vibe but remember artist make music in era’s and what they are going through in life, not everything will touch everybody and that’s totally okay. ❤️
This is honestly the best comment I have ever received on an album I didn't totally vibe with. I agree with EVERYTHING you've said and it makes so much sense! I loved the part about making eras and that they're not made for everyone AND that is it okay ❤️ You're incredible, thank you for taking the time to leave such a in-depth comment, truly made my day reading this AND gives me a new appreciation for the album, even if sonically it doesn't gel with me.
I'm trying to figure out how everyone is saying this a good review. It's very negative if you ask me. And how old are you? I never heard anyone complain about songs being too long. Janet usually had an album version and radio/video edit version. Folks made ALBUMS back in the day,. Artist would make an album and then disappear for 3 years and come back. Especially Janet and Mike. Today artists never go away and mostly drop SINGLES for tiktok. Short attention span I guess.
The Knowledge is my favorite non-single track on the album. Tier I albums are: Rhythm Nation (80s), The Velvet Rope (90s), & All For You (00s). Tier II albums are: Control (80s), janet (90s), and Discipline (00s). Those six #1 albums form the bulk of Janet's legacy. Lol, I think The Velvet Rope and All For You will be more your speed. You hated all of the #1 hits except Black Cat. The Jimmy Jam & Terry Lewis sound in the 80s was a revelation. Highly influential. They soften up their sound a lot in the 90s and create influential R&B albums with Janet. You can skip the interludes moving forward, but All For You has the best ones.
Just gonna throw it out there (even though I’m sure others already have) that her music gets waaaay less hard-edged and industrial from here. I think you’ll be shook by her next album. But damn, watching you hate Love Will Never Do hurt my soul a bit.
The NJS sound isn't my favourite either. But you're never going to enjoy the experience if you've been forced to listen to an album because you've been paid to do so & want to get through it as quickly as possible. Janet's albums are an experience and are not necessarily meant to be consumed in one short sitting but savoured (the visuals and interludes are part of that experience). TVR, in particular, is a phenomenal album but the thought of someone trying to get through it as quickly as possible does make me cringe. I'm not convinced you would "get it". Also, I'm not sure what you mean by "its been done better". The point is to unite people through dance (hence the longer songs). It wasn't supposed to revolutionary or complex, otherwise it would come across a bit pretentious (that's more Madonna's style, we all know how artistic and avant garde she is - or tries to be). It was supposed to be accessible for kids. "Get the point? Good..."
It's depends, ''The velvet Rope'' took many listen to liking, while i love the ''Rhythm Nation 1814'' album at the first listen. It's my favorite album of her. But the two albums was not the same function, since ''The Velvet Rope'' was supposed to deal with the traumatic things that Janet faced since very young (with a violent father) with also theme very hard like AIDS, homophobia, discrimination and also talk also about her major depression and her self-estim in songs like the title track or ''I Get Lonely''.
This album STILL holds the record for the most top 5 singles (being 7) on Billboard. YOUR REVIEW is annoying, not the album. Maybe watch the videos so you understand more. Bye 👋 👋 👋
Please Please do Janet by her ❤️ you will love it (: her 90s eras are so much better :) I will be waiting 😂 Thank you for your Reaction! This Album is not the Best From her ! Lots of love ❤
@@bennshoutsI apologize for my "Quit while you're ahead" comment but Janet at the time was ahead of her time with the industrial and house sounds and the beats did run long back then but it the album also contributed to my growth in high School and helped me through a drug addiction and the death of my sister, so the issues that she spoke about weren't anything that were spoken about back then and the fact that it may be generic now for generic artists to try to recreate. She was the first and a visionary ❤
I understand her impact, I commented on the content being great for the 80’s, however, yes I have heard it done better now - doesnt take away from Janet, but does influence how I respond to her. I don’t like this sound - regardless of how big it was etc, doesn’t make me like it haha, if it did, that would prove me to like something just cause it’s popular. The album is pretty polarising, even in the comments, so people shouldn’t be too shocked that I didn’t enjoy it overall.
Personally, I love this album and think it's her best, BUT I totally understand how you feel. You're right. They all sound the same, and they have this sound which you can either enjoy or hate. And if you hate it, that's totally ok. I personally cant stand her ballads. They're too slow, soft and very long! And they never hit home for me.
@@bennshouts I am cause you're not the only one. She really worked hard to shed those comparisons. She's her own artist. But thank you for giving her music a chance.
Yes, but it's one comment, I said it reminded me of, after people telling me her history it makes sense for MJ to be mentioned if he was inspired by her, so by not mentioning him, it in fact doesn't give Janet the kudos she deserves, no?
@@bennshouts Michael jackson said himself that this album was the huge inspiration for his ''Dangerous'' album. Also, he said that ''The Knowledge'' was his favorite song of all time for his sister in all his interview when talking about her sister. Few months before his death, while he repeat for his show ''This Is It'' (who never make the day, because he dead before it's started), he dancing around his favorite song of his sister and also work wrote and made a duet with her for the song ''Scream'' for his ''History'' album (produced by Janet producers, Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis)
I’m sad to see you had this record so much. It’s definitely nostalgic for me. From what I can tell the New Jack Swing sound that makes up this record really isn’t your scene. Her next album, janet., is much more pop and R&B oriented. It’s a longer one with many interludes (that’s just her thing). There is one 7 minute track on that album as a fair warning. That said, I think it’ll be more your style with out the heavy drum production and more sonic variety.
I’m from the generation that was introduced to Janet with her ALL FOR YOU era 😃 I love Janet but I hated rhythm nation hahaha 🙃 Please do Damita Jo, Discipline or 20YO, those are my favs from her 😍
If you do listen to any of the songs again, I would just do it by watching the music videos. The album was largely ignored in Australia until Black Cat was released as a single. The album then received some attention but I never bought the album or wanted to. Some of the singles came more alive with the videos and were kind of iconic for the era. Her Janet album was what I though was her best, which is the next one after this. She does sound very similar in most her songs though and that’s because she doesn’t have a strong voice.
Honey it goes on and on and on jam and Lewis it’s so crap I got the album back in the day at central station records , Control is pretty cool , what have you done for me lately ? that’s hot and nasty the pleasure principle , it’s really baaaaad this album nah see ya’s
Oh and btw she bitched about Madonna all the time in the media , obviously Madonna was like in an interview , “I’ve never met the woman , quite transparent don’t you think? “
whoever you are , maybe you were not there in the 80’s and 90’s I forgive you , however Janet was very vocal in many interviews about her dislike of Madonna, it’s weird it’s all music chart history
Janet is always so hit or miss for me, personally. I find a lot of her albums just too long. "Rhythm Nation 1814" is such a product of its times, despite the relevancy of the lyrical content, but unfortunately, it does sound quite dated now. I think it's one of those albums that you need to hear at the right time to vibe with it, if you know what I mean? When I first heard it, I liked a couple songs, but overall didn't care nuch either way. Then one day years later, I randomly decided to listen to it one night, and I thoroughly enjoyed the album. As you've gotten some upset comments, I would like to remind you again that I personally still enjoy your reactions when they are like this. I don't see why anyone would think you're not open minded about music, though, because I see you trying so hard to find anything you like about the music and looking for positives even when you're clearly not vibing it. You even said you'd give it a second chance. And just a little bit of trivia: it's called "Rhythm Nation 1814" because 1814 is the year that "Star Spangled Banner" was written, and Janet haf intended the album and its political message to be a "new anthem for a new generation". Coincidentally, R and N are also the 18th and 14th letters of the alphabet.
This comment made my day, THANK YOU!!!! I knew it would annoy some people and wasn't going to upload for that fact, but then, is just an opinion, I'm sure Janet does NOT care what I think haha! Honestly, made my day reading this, thank you ❤️
I’m just so thankful Madonna doesn’t litter her albums with pointless interludes. And prepare yourself - aaall of Janet’s albums from this point forward follow the exact same formula. The songs do get better, tho. janet. and The Velvet Rope are masterpieces and each have a wider variety of sounds. Janet’s first two albums just sound the same. It’s like one long, run on song. Ha. I don’t know how her fans are satisfied with her. And I haven’t even mentioned her tours. It’s the same choreography and the same medleys year after year. BO-RING.
trying to drag janet when she is still doing full 8 counts and can still hold a note unlike madonna who hasn't made a good album since confessions....like let's be fr. i'd rather have 10 sec interludes than madonnas albums which are cluttered with filler tracks and skippable songs.
Omg, I couldn’t stop laughing at your annoyance with this album and agree completely, it was all over production and little talent. I will say, only the visuals for a couple videos save it. One video “Love will never do without you” was done in black & while, directed by the late great, Herb Ritts, who’s not only a famous & brilliant photographer, but his real muse was Madonna and directed her B&W video “Cherish”. I will say Escaped is my favorite song and video on this album.
Little talent? Can you harmonise in 11th? Can you make your voice blend in with the song? Can you even write a good song? I think not! ☝🏽 Again, don't come for Queen Janet
Doesn't hold up well? Janet's music is still very much in good condition, numbers don't lie and STOP comparing her to Madonna, these 2 are not even remotely similar, it's like comparing ice cream to soup
