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Offending someone over something outdated and ridiculous? It seems like I did something right for once in my life. Japan is a hypocritical country. They assume foreigners have no manners but fail to realize that their OWN country has its fair share of ill mannered individuals just as worse. Like how common it is for men/women stalking their ex lovers. Or men train groping women. Or how in this day 'n age there are still abusive men treating women less than dirt but seeing it as something culturally common.
As a chines born n live in asia... You'll only offend older generations / or those caught in stupid beliefs. I love sticking my chopsticks in the rice as it's the safest way to prevent it from falling off.
Chopsticks manners were mostly new to me. I had heard about NOT sticking chopsticks upright into rice and leaving them that way. But most of the other customs were new to me, even though they make good sense. I don't think that I've seen (or noticed) the chopstick rest before, but if you shouldn't leave your chopsticks in the bowl, it figures. It was interesting hearing Jane's comment that uneven chopsticks can lead to injury and death! That sounds more like a story that parents tell their children to scare them into behaving well.
Because in Chinese language we have an idiom literally "three long two short" which means incidents or death. "Three long two short" refers to coffins where three long planks make up the long sides and the bottom, and two short planks make the short sides. So using two chopsticks with uneven lengths is considered to cause bad things...
In France and in all Europe I guess, making a sound when eating noodle is considered soooo disrespectful, I remember how chocked I was when I first saw it on a kdrama!! Anyway, great video girls, really instructive!
If it is soup noodle, eg ramen, won ton, miso...ill make sound and slurp, but if it is dish noodles eg spagetti, stir fry noodles, ill wont slurp or make sound.
In my family here in Brazil is kinda similar. It's bad table manners for us to make a sound when eating noodles or soup (or any kind of food really). I cant speak for the rest of the country but I believe it's similar in other families
in poland slurping is considered very rude and says that you have no manners, no matter what food you eat. if you do it in home with your family it may be ok, but definitely not when you're eating outside and when therea are other people. the same goes for making any sound when eating. and i think it's obvious that eating with open mouths, opening mouths while eating, talking is considered disrespectful and disgusting. there are many other manners
Chewing with your mouths open... Burping... Slurping... Farting... All things toddlers do 🤣! What really struck me when I had a baby and brestfed: babies make all of these "impolite" noises together and even more: sometimes they're in such a hurry that they make this taking short deep breaths noise of all kind. And the final pleased Ahhh.... when they finsh their meal.
As an all-time Chinese person living in Japan, I have been corrected many times about my bad manners while eating. I think most of the etiquettes are shared among the 3 countries, some even all around the world. However, in my family, if we have meals at home without any guests, we do loosen some minor rules, but when we go out to eat with people, we follow what the hostesses have shared.
Ok, my take away from this is that elbows on the table is universally bad manners, and moms everywhere in the world will give you a hard time if you do this...
Wow, a follow-up to the last episode on chopsticks. We did an in-depth analysis of our three hostesses last time. Jane uses the Double Hook grip, and transitions to Cupped Vulcan. Hyejin is a master of Scissorhand, but wields Standard Grip and Lateral Thumb Wrestler as needed. Kotoha specializes in Standard Grip, and transitions to Turncoat as needed. It's cool to see another episode on chopsticks!
@Jesse Melvin - yeah, you will not find anything else online or in physical publications that identify chopstick grips and their differences. Don't you find it weird that nobody until now has bothered to even look and document in 3,000 years?
Living in Taiwan, we have similar taboos. We use the Japanese reason for not transferring food directly from chopsticks to chopsticks, but in recent years I think it's just for hygiene reasons. We also have "public chopsticks and spoons" when we share a bowl of food. We don't have taboo about using chopsticks singularly, as too many people (kids, foreigners) have problem using chopsticks "properly" on some particularly slippery food (such as whole boiled eggs). We just have to allow them. It's out of necessity. We also don't forbid putting chopsticks on bowls, as many people don't have, or don't bother to use, chopstick stands.
2:43 That’s why Ni-ki looked so appalled when Sunghoon transferred his food to Jakes chopstick. I feel bad for Ni-ki living in Korea he probabaly sees people transferring food all the time & has to think of dead people, funerals, and bones every time he is just trying to eat in peace.
This is the first time I know about no.5! Omg In Thailand we always place it on a bowl because we think a table surface is dirty (especially outside, even if they wipe the table in front of you)
I remember when I was stationed in Japan and I went into my first Soba shop. Everybody was slurping their noodles, but then I realized there's hardly any other way to eat soba with chopsticks and not slurp. I loved my two years there.
너무 신기하다! 좋은 컨텐츠를 만들어주셔서 감사합니당💖💖 I have some question.🥺 Because Hyejin said that Korean place thier chopstick on the plain table. It mean that most of Korean Restaurant is really clean, doesn’t it? In my country I don’t think we can place fork or spoon on the table because we are so afraid that table might not be cleaned properly.😭🥲
I was also shocked when she said they put it directly on the table! It is never clean even if you think someone cleaned it, unless each time the customer used the table, the staff ensure 100% disinfection 😂(which never happens!). Cloths are often reused and not washed every single time, and you have no idea what was on that table before (someone's spit/muscus/vomit/trash/etc). Unless the person has an iron stomach and is not afraid of potential germs/worms/bacteria, then go ahead lol
I'd rather prioritize my own hygiene even if it risked of being seen as rude. Who know what kind of bacteria or other nasty things are there at the table.
It's exclusively a Korean thing I think. I live in a country where there are a lot of Chinese immigrants(diaspora/descendants) and we never put chopsticks on the table(very dirty!) . We line it up neatly on the bowl like what Kotoha did
Don't know if this is effective, but if I'm not mistaken, they are allowed to use paper napkin/tissue paper to prevent chopstick touch dirty table directly.
My grandparents taught me several positions with 'meanings' for your cutlery. (Honestly don't remember half of it) but my grandpa uses two a lot. He'll put his knife and fork on the right side horizontal on the plate to show he is done with eating and his knife and fork on like (not good with the clock thing) 4 and 8? to show that he is still eating/planning on eating but taking a break or something. I know that there are more, but even these are not really being used here (in the Netherlands) anymore for as far as I know. I think that the eating rules are quickly disappearing and that a lot of things you were judged on in the past or were a no go then are completely fine now.
i remember enhypen's niki reacting the same way when his members gave their food to each other by giving it chopsticks to chopsticks,, man was shivering !! 😭
I really liked the comparison of the traditions of the three cultures.🇯🇵🇰🇷🇨🇳 It would be good if a Hungarian🇭🇺 inscription was also available. it was super just so on💞💞💞
After working in a Japanese restaurant for years, I prefer to eat with chopstocks. The Sushi Chefs would compliment me by telling me I ate "very Japanese" instead of American by both how I used my chopsticks and type of food I would enjoy. It just felt like tbe right way. When I began working there I was educated on proper etiquette.
I grew up in a Chinese household with some Vietnamese traditions and we were always encouraged to slurp our soups and noodles. None of us ate quietly, at home nor at Chinese and Vietnamese restaurants that we went to, especially Pho restaurants. If you ate quietly, you're basically saying that you aren't enjoying your food, and that's insulting to the chefs and cooks who worked so hard to make your meals delicious. I think it just boils down to being mindful of your environment and the culture around you. I would never make a sound while dining out at most places here in the U.S., but there are certain places where it is normal to do so.
All the japanese and korean chopstick culture started in china, so obviously they share a lot of tradition. However, japan is seperated from china much longer and is the most "different", korea is developing away from chinese culture too. But the ancient beliefs are still part of daily life in all of them.
I know they're trying to show the examples, but somehow i find it amusing that they do all the things they are not supposed to do 😂 aren't they wary of the bad things that are associated with those taboos? Btw love seeing kotoha.. she's so cute 😍
Those 3 are 💁🏻♀️💁🏻♀️💁🏻♀️✨✨✨✨✨ A european here literally 📝📝📝 about everything. *LOVED* the previous video where Japanese, Korean and Chinese 🥢🥢🥢 were compared. Beyond interesting. Thank you so much🙏🏻 🧛🏻♀️💜
It's because it's a rule that was most traditionally followed by elders. It's manners we learn from our parents and could get scolding if not followed but at one point we forget.
Oh there's also a difference between how Japanese and Chinese eat rice from a bowl (mainly cos Japanese rice is stickier). Japanese pick clumps of rice from the bowl with the chopsticks, while Chinese use the chopsticks to shovel the rice grains from the bowl into the mouth. I would get told off by my mum if I did the former 🤭
my parents who were old-time Europeans, taught me that it is incorrect manners to slurp ones food and the only exception I ever saw them do it in was in Chinese or what is called Chinese restaurants but it's probably not because if it was real Chinese I think I would have understood the lingo at least some of it, the same goes with Japaneseand that has much to do with the grandparents of the kids I went to school with... Grandparents usually like me because I had a knack for wanting to pick up languages and generally an ear for it, although they noticed a slight speech problem I have, and realize that apparently I don'thear things properly and depend on looking at people's lips which I have done since I was a child although I'm not considered deaf I'm considered having acute hearingI hear what's normally out of most people's hearing range both high and low one ear hears higher the other ear hears in the below normal lower pitch, which means when people are speaking to me I have to look at their lips and focus on what they're saying in order to understand them.
I learned many things about the manners from Korea, Japan and China. Now I'm wondering kind of manners with chopsticks there are from my Vietnamese nationality (because I'm American)
4:48 even in europe (atleast in France) It's considered as rude to point someone, when I was just a kid every time I was pointing someone saying "what does this guy do" my parents always was told me to not point to people because It's really rude, so It's something that europeans share, but I've learned a lot of things on chopstick, because obviously I use a fork and a knife.
In Germany too. There's this saying "Man zeigt nicht mit nackten Fingern auf angezogene Leute" which basically translates to 'Don't point with your naked finger towards dressed people'
Its a custom basically everywhere. I have never once understood how its rude. If i need to point. I will point. I dont give a flying toot who thinks in their overly judgy heads that its rude. You cant hold yourself back for customs that are stupid and dont actually benefit you.
@@LilyUnicorn I think It's not good to point because it feels like you're judging the person you point, or it can also be, pointing someone is bad because if you say something rude he will not understand because if you don't point they will not know who you are talking about and so It's not awkward for you, I suppose
Oh, I remember one time during Covid some friends and I were watching anime via Discord screenshare when suddenly we all heard shouting in what turned out to be Vietnamese because my friend Jen thought she could run to the kitchen and make it back before her mom noticed that she'd left her chopsticks stabbed into her rice. She was wrong.
Oh, I didn't know that making some sounds while eating was considered disrespectful by also Japanese people! Cause in many Japanese movies and reality shows I watched, people were making HUGE noises while eating/drinking. So I've asked my Japanese friend about that, since making those sounds with especially soups is considered very very disrespectful in my country I was really curious about it, then he said "Japanese people make noises to show how delicious they find the food, no one thinks it's disrespectful here! ". And now, I don't understand which one is correct, I guess it's just depends on the person?? 😂
⭕️ramen soba noodle etc. ❌other foods (pasta etc.) There are many Japanese (especially Edo-ko) who say that slurping noodles with sound is good manners and chic, but I think it is not about manners, but about the sound that is allowed. In addition, ramen and soba noodles are casual fast food.
Also, don't a lot of Vietnamese bowls have a hole that you can stick your chopsticks through? Is that what the hole in the bowl is for, or should I not be doing that?
Depending on the type of food I'd use different tools to eat. Rice, pizza ,fried chicken etc best tools is my fingers after washing them clean of course. Soup, cereal, porridge,noodles etc etc the regular spoon Steak, fish etc knife and fork. Not particularly concern on the way I arrange them on the table/plate though. Tq for this info.
Mostly learnt this growing up. In Hong Kong and China, each person may have a small plate where the food is placed. You can use a separate pair of chopsticks to give food to another person. 😋
My white dad when he was dating my Korean mom went over to her house to have dinner with her parents and he began eating rice with chopsticks and her parents gave him weird looks. Turns out that this is very bad for men to do because apparently eating rice with chopsticks is supposed to be feminine. This was back in the 90s, I dont know if that's changed now.
@@둡-z6o this was back in the 90s, when im pretty sure korea was still a developing country. so i think these social norms existed at the time, but dont exist anymore.
As someone who grew up with a lot of these rules- it never occurred to me that it’s something unique or different :00 It’s so interesting to just scroll through the comments and see others points of views
At home or with kins, Koreans are NOT nervous about making sound while eating noodle or soup. Just enjoy it. Too much efforts not making sound itself is not a way of enjoying. Sometimes we need to eat fast. How can we avoid making sound? But Koreans usually do care about it when they are outside.
in swedish there is a "butter dachshund" or a small metal dachshund you use to lean butter knives on. seems like an overly specialized tool, but kind of similar to those chopstick rests. no clue about the history of those things though.
Growing up, my mom who is Vietnamese told me to rub the disposable chopsticks after splitting them to prevent splinters. That's the only time I would do that.
As an American who uses chopsticks primarily in Eastern food joints, I often can't grip my chicken or beef with chopsticks without stabbing it because it slips out from between them from the sauce making it slick. Maybe reusable chopsticks are a bit better, but I've only ever handled disposable ones.
Reusable ones are, if anything, worse sometimes. You just need to practice your grip, people who grow up with chopsticks can pick up like a whole damn chicken lol. I have moderate gripping power but nowhere near a native
In my family..we just have one rule.. don't waste your food.. My mom:u think food grows on tree? Yes mom..not all of them but some food do grow on tree My mom:how dare you u answer my question Me : surprise pickachu face
There're 1.4 billion people in China. I think table manners are not necessarily the same in different households. In some families, it's more strict than others. But one common bad manner I've observed in my whole life is that people put chicken or fish bones on table while eating, making a small pile of rubbish. This makes me extremely uncomfortable. What's the bad manner you detest the most in your country?
It really depends,I don't really care for most of those customers, I do occasionally stick my chopsticks into rice, but actually, there are not many good reasons regardless of the cultural factors. Not pointing people with chopsticks, I believe it's just common sense everywhere, it's just not polite to point at people with your finger or anything in general . I imagine it to be true in almost every country. I don't do the sticking chopsticks into rice thing with people I don't really familiar with though, care for something or not, you should at least careful enough to not to give other people unnecessary discomfort.
In kurdistan or Middle East chopsticks are not really famous for even noodles me as a kid I always used this 🍴* sorry I forgot the name of it 😅💔* and if u use chopsticks in public people find it weird idk why 😂 also we don't have any type of noodles in restaurants 🥺💔 but u can always get kebab in almost every restaurants 😂 And BTW I'm really interested in Korean, Chinese and Japanese culture I want to Learn more about it 🥺