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@WoodByWrightHowTo
@WoodByWrightHowTo Год назад
here is a longer video on the topic: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-0SASROZhCvI.html
@silentstormstudio4782
@silentstormstudio4782 Год назад
This proves everything Japanese need not need to be good .
@ascensionbeyond8413
@ascensionbeyond8413 Год назад
do you know where i can get that shirt for my dad?
@RaptorTroll360
@RaptorTroll360 Год назад
I know which saw is better, as a matter of fact it's a very simple answer - it depends, on nuances. But the average person is not all that smart, and the most vocal ones are even less so, and nuance requires brain power to process (as a saying in my country goes, an empty barrel can be heard from afar, meaning that empty headed people are usually the loudest.) Stupid people hate nuance and love to think themselves right.
@Kostro_
@Kostro_ Год назад
Dude that is a rad shirt
@jordancambridge4106
@jordancambridge4106 Год назад
Wow you are wrong so wrong. First that Japanese one took about 15 years to make and takes about 5 years to learn how to use and 10 more years to master and will snap if slightly used wrong. The American saw can be used both forward and back. The American one is instantly able to learn and takes no time at all to master. The Japanese is poor quality far more expensive and just trash. The Japanese saw will cost over $5000 while the American saw is about $5. Is one better yes its the American made. Japanese does make second best quality in the world which when you look at how bad Japanese quality really is then you start to realize why America became known as the single greatest country in the world.
@dog2man1994
@dog2man1994 Год назад
Personally, I like to manually break the atomic bonds to get two pieces of wood. Cleanest cut you'll they get
@Gabriel-yd4bq
@Gabriel-yd4bq Год назад
I prefer fissioning the carbon atoms in celulose and breaking the wood apart that way. Cleanest cut I've seen.
@vao4037
@vao4037 Год назад
I prefer using nuclear fusion to fuse the atoms in the wood into more energetic U-235 but thats just my preference.
@polycrystallinecandy
@polycrystallinecandy Год назад
I prefer to alter the initial parameters of the big bang so the resulting universe evolves to contain the exact number of molecules in precisely the shape I need. But that's just one way to do it.
@akmon3490
@akmon3490 Год назад
So you a sf katana enjoyer
@anastasiadudette706
@anastasiadudette706 Год назад
I personally hack into the main frame of the wood block select the row I want to cut and then delete all connecting files in that row. There are zero flaws to this method. Granted it is very difficult to do since you need a jumper cable.
@pitsnipe5559
@pitsnipe5559 Год назад
One, I think, good use for Japanese saws is to teach young children basic woodworking skills. There lighter weight and a child’s tendency to use both hands fits well.
@2adamast
@2adamast Год назад
First thing I did with a japanese saw was cut myself. (edit) Sliding back the protection over its razor sharp teeth.
@pitsnipe5559
@pitsnipe5559 Год назад
@@2adamast That’s odd, the first thing I did with a western saw was cut myself. Dropped the saw and ran into the house screaming. My mom got mad because I dropped the saw in the dirt. 😳
@williamsmith8329
@williamsmith8329 Год назад
Perhaps, although anecdotally i learned fine when i was very young with a western saw
@JonLake
@JonLake Год назад
Damn.. I'll have to check my girlfriend's ID 🪪😅
@TD-ug4mg
@TD-ug4mg Год назад
Not going to lie, I don't necessarily think that children should be working with saws, at least not while they're young enough to be doing things instinctively with both arms like that. It feels like a skill that should wait until there may be between 10 and 12, just for safeties sake. There are plenty of other things that can be taught to them before getting into saws to give him a solid foundation in woodworking.
@FalloutUrMum
@FalloutUrMum Год назад
I yell at the wood until it bends to my will
@stalincat2457
@stalincat2457 Год назад
Poor Private Pine :
@highqualityduck8580
@highqualityduck8580 7 месяцев назад
But now it's bent
@federicofranco4519
@federicofranco4519 7 месяцев назад
Make an intimidation check
@advanceringnewholder
@advanceringnewholder 7 месяцев назад
​@@federicofranco4519Angry carpentry
@KekrisTheBetrayer
@KekrisTheBetrayer 6 месяцев назад
⁠@@advanceringnewholderThe Orc who intimidated wood
@user-bx3rg7yb1d
@user-bx3rg7yb1d Год назад
I watched my friend try to saw through a log with a machete for the bonfire the other night. None of us corrected him just sat and watched him struggle for over 2 hours lol.
@fernandoarroyo3889
@fernandoarroyo3889 3 месяца назад
Smooth
@adriangenshin9284
@adriangenshin9284 Год назад
Personaly, I prefer to use a group if termites I control because I am wearing a termite king costume and they listen to my orders to cut the wood.
@StarlitWitchy
@StarlitWitchy Год назад
The Dr Animo method
@Woodledude
@Woodledude Год назад
Man, I thought you were the thermite guy again for a second. Oops.
@johnagorman
@johnagorman Год назад
I'm having problems with the termites getting a thin kerf. Any suggestions? Maybe a termite king crown from a different region?
@adriangenshin9284
@adriangenshin9284 Год назад
@@johnagorman According to personal anecdotes the number of crowns you have dictates how much power you have over your termites. However as I am sure you understand a king who rules with a heavy hand losses his crown sooner than later. Abuse the power of multiple crowns too much, and you won't be left with a crown at all. Socioeconomic problems that come up because you're drunk on power is your responsibility. Never forget this and your problem will be solved.
@sjgambler9178
@sjgambler9178 Год назад
What does a termite king costume look like exactly ? Envisioning it is absolutely ridiculous and preposterous, but equally funny and creative.
@gunnarskoog5628
@gunnarskoog5628 Год назад
I headbutt pieces of wood. Not even to split them, I just like the sound it makes
@catchara1496
@catchara1496 Год назад
That sounds apt for someone who headbutts wood
@okipullup6103
@okipullup6103 Год назад
I used to headbutt trees when I was a kid. So much fun. I’ve slacked for about 10 years thanks to moving to America and I have seriously grown weaker.
@cam5816
@cam5816 Год назад
A true craftsman ☺️
@cam5816
@cam5816 Год назад
@@okipullup6103 There’s still time
@thisrandomdude_
@thisrandomdude_ Год назад
This seriously made me chuckle hahahah. Y'all are hilarious, don't know how you guys do it.
@rachieru382
@rachieru382 10 месяцев назад
All I'm hearing is "Use whichever you find more comfortable to use. It's cutting wood; not rocket surgery."😂❤
@logan12satcom83
@logan12satcom83 5 месяцев назад
I personally find it most comfortable to split the atoms of the wood. You get the perfect cut that way
@Eutropios
@Eutropios 6 дней назад
"Rocket surgery" 🤣🤣 I'm using this
@Ed19601
@Ed19601 6 месяцев назад
One thing i remembered my dad thought me with whatever saw to use: "let the saw do the work"
@WoodByWrightHowTo
@WoodByWrightHowTo 6 месяцев назад
Words to move by.
@claw8879
@claw8879 Год назад
Nice to see a video where Bill Burr is actually calm.
@Pabloignacioalvarez
@Pabloignacioalvarez Год назад
Well heeya go!
@kapytanhook
@kapytanhook Год назад
Ole freckles got a temper probably. (Distant voice) psycho. (Unnatural forced kaugh). Bill bur is a treasure
@bretfarve9435
@bretfarve9435 Год назад
Underated comment
@DennisMartinezCalifornia
@DennisMartinezCalifornia Год назад
Ol Billy RedBalls 💀
@brendynfindlay9251
@brendynfindlay9251 Год назад
He skipped right over ur comment
@Johnnywithoutaface
@Johnnywithoutaface Год назад
Personally I like to rip the wood apart using two black holes. It’s a little inconsistent but very powerful.
@hhiippiittyy
@hhiippiittyy Год назад
Now where did I put my maul? Ah crap...
@doofusloofus8359
@doofusloofus8359 Год назад
It does give a very interesting grain.
@ZealwoodGaming
@ZealwoodGaming Год назад
So THAT'S why the saw in Ocarina of Time looks so unusual, it's a Japanese saw lol
@sshuraii
@sshuraii 3 месяца назад
I had the same realization when watching this video
@liamfrr
@liamfrr Год назад
i dont use tools to cut my wood, i just bite it
@masterofclowning
@masterofclowning 7 месяцев назад
Does it work?
@mcfarofinha134
@mcfarofinha134 Год назад
I lived in japan for a few years in middle-school. The thing I hated the most about woodworking class were the saws since I was used to the western type. I would instinctively use only one hand, and everything ended up wobbley and horrible lol. My teacher was nice and let me use a western-style saw he had, and that made it a lot more fun. You a real g Nakamura-san
@dilltdm1115
@dilltdm1115 Год назад
W
@bobbybrown475
@bobbybrown475 Год назад
I don't know Nakamura-san, but I love Nakamura-san. That's a good freaking teacher.
@thebigcheese8715
@thebigcheese8715 Год назад
For me whenever I use a Japanese saw (right way and wrong way) I always get rather crooked cuts. With a Western it's no issue since they're not nearly as flexible.
@mitchellbryant4506
@mitchellbryant4506 Год назад
Japan has woodworking classes for middle schoolers?
@g33xzi11a
@g33xzi11a Год назад
@@mitchellbryant4506most countries with decent education systems start treating children like adults in their education when they turn 10. Americans and Canadians are insanely overprotective of our children beyond all reason or benefit.
@trovvirtue3504
@trovvirtue3504 Год назад
Personally I like giving my wood an intense death glare until it tears itself in half out of fear.
@enraikow6109
@enraikow6109 Год назад
Insulting it is my way to go
@smartestmoronx19
@smartestmoronx19 Год назад
Ah, a student of the Grog The Angry Carpenter school
@rockytalkndawoods3057
@rockytalkndawoods3057 Год назад
Awe yes, the Chuck Norris saw.
@gigabyteguru2452
@gigabyteguru2452 7 месяцев назад
I recommend simply spending 10,000 years mastering the perfect karate chop, thus making tools redundant.
@Tech_Duster
@Tech_Duster Год назад
I just rent out Jackie Chan to cut my wood.
@psilocybicacid7667
@psilocybicacid7667 7 месяцев назад
So a Chinese saw?
@blackwater7183
@blackwater7183 6 месяцев назад
@@psilocybicacid7667 He's American so he thinks they are all the same...
@sws212
@sws212 6 месяцев назад
I don't think you're cutting your wood right. Jackie Chan is an odd choice but whatever works for your wood, I guess.
@malta7406
@malta7406 Год назад
My personal technique involves tearing the wood in half like a caveman. It's not precise, but boy is it fast.
@judas1213
@judas1213 Год назад
Ooga booga, me make firewood
@Depreuz
@Depreuz Год назад
​@@judas1213 Ugh oog me make fire.
@p0elaha566
@p0elaha566 Год назад
You mean like Captain America
@iansingsiansings2101
@iansingsiansings2101 Год назад
i'd like to see you "caveman" a peice of seasoned tallowwood in half.
@YOUR_NARRATOR975
@YOUR_NARRATOR975 7 месяцев назад
How do you crosscut?
@Methus3lah
@Methus3lah Год назад
“The best saw is the one that cuts the wood.” That’s good advice for any occasion.
@edot2824
@edot2824 Год назад
Generic countryman advice 101
@snowhusk
@snowhusk Год назад
It's like the same advice about cameras. "The best camera is the one you have with you"
@gaskamp2
@gaskamp2 Год назад
@@snowhusk Same with Programming languages and Martial Arts: The best one is the one you know.
@OzyAndy
@OzyAndy Год назад
I worked at a wood working place for years and never got a proper explanation as to the difference, now it actually makes since. 👌
@flighty93
@flighty93 Год назад
Personally, I verbally abuse the wood until it cuts itself. Provides a clean cut, and other wood in the area tends to cut itself
@Mebthe12luvulongtime
@Mebthe12luvulongtime Год назад
why is Bill Burr threatening me with blades?
@FranciscoCastelluccio
@FranciscoCastelluccio Год назад
Then he slips something in your drink and becomes Bill Blur
@yyeezyy630
@yyeezyy630 Год назад
@@FranciscoCastelluccio then the waiter walks up and he says bill her
@jammothyjimmothy6999
@jammothyjimmothy6999 Год назад
Personally I prefer to use a hammer and an axe head balanced precariously upon the wood. It's not a cheap, easy, effective or even sensical style, but I value novelty over all of the above and it's quite novel.
@mikewashere9660
@mikewashere9660 Год назад
...says the woodworking hack! ....it's a joke, lol, to each their own favorite ways and means!
@sharpfang
@sharpfang Год назад
Never had this approach to crafting, but where it comes to travel, a rental electric scooter is neither faster, nor safer, nor cheaper, nor more comfortable than a bus, but it's totally less boring.
@jammothyjimmothy6999
@jammothyjimmothy6999 Год назад
@@dracodwarf6256 I'll have to try that method out myself!
@sharpfang
@sharpfang Год назад
@@dracodwarf6256 In half? In my tries it cut the wood into two thirds. I mean, they are technically two halves of what remains after the process, but still, cutting a 1-meter plank yields two ~33cm pieces.
@dracodwarf6256
@dracodwarf6256 Год назад
@@sharpfang skill issue. Maybe wood working isn't for everyone. However I do recommend trying the thermal lance if basic thermite doesn't work.
@aetherblackbolt1301
@aetherblackbolt1301 Год назад
I just go to taco Bell and use my fart blaster to cut the wood like a water jet. Cleanest cut ever.
@idlepathofshura6606
@idlepathofshura6606 Год назад
I love seeing how despite the huge distance and differing starting conditions We humans manage to come up with similar solutions to the same problem
@Alinor24
@Alinor24 Год назад
Yes! I stumbled upon my favourite example of this in History class. Our book about the Spanish colonization of South America included a report from one of the Spaniards about the Aztec city Tenochtitlan. He described how the Aztecs had people controlling the market for example. If they found a wrong measure being used they took it away and broke it. Overall many things were similar to life in Europe at the time. It blew my mind and I loved it. Also Tenochtitlan seemed to be an awesome city.
@ExpandDong420
@ExpandDong420 Год назад
It's the technological equivalent of convergent evolution, the same job demands the same form
@iwanttwoscoops
@iwanttwoscoops Год назад
@@Alinor24 this paragraph doesn't make any sense. rewrite it?
@Alinor24
@Alinor24 Год назад
@@iwanttwoscoops Sorry, but I don't see your problem with my text. Which part do you not understand?
@Dell-ol6hb
@Dell-ol6hb Год назад
@@Alinor24 it’s a tragedy that they plundered and destroyed the city, what a sight it must’ve been, it had like a population of 100,000 and was in the middle of a Great Lake with beautiful architecture and infrastructure. No wonder the Spanish were in awe seeing the city
@christophercervantes5346
@christophercervantes5346 Год назад
"The best one to use is the one that cuts the wood" *Almost always what matters at the end of the day.*
@cbweno1
@cbweno1 6 месяцев назад
You can always tell when a youtuber has a good community by the comments left. Keep up the hard work Bill Burr. The comments on how people cut their wood are outstanding! Personally, I use my Marine Corp issued Knife hand to cut my wood.
@danielhuneke5862
@danielhuneke5862 6 месяцев назад
"The best one to use is the one that cuts the wood" Whitch is both of them.
@shishi6201
@shishi6201 Год назад
I do not need saws. The Wood obeys me and shatters upon my command.
@richardmoore609
@richardmoore609 Год назад
The biggest problem people have with western style saws is they don't let the saw do the cutting. They try and push down and that drives the blade in different directions. Also doesn't help a lot of people use dull saws and try and think pushing harder will fix the problem. Like a chainsaw, you need to let the saw do the cutting.
@DieGoetterdaemmerung
@DieGoetterdaemmerung Год назад
I see this a lot with beginners, they don't use the entirety of the sawblade and push down instead of letting the saw do all the work. I'm from germany and in trade school our instructors used to say "Säge sowie Schwanz, benutzt man ganz!" "Saw just like dick, use all of it" maybe a little crude but got the message across to a bunch of 16-18 year old boys haha
@kugelblitz1557
@kugelblitz1557 Год назад
My only problem is that with a western saw sometimes it will stick in the wood and since pressure is only applied from behind and it has more traction so to speak on the push stroke it's more likely to bend under pressure whereas on the pull stroke it's under tension causing it to stay straight more easily even if it gets caught. Maybe it has to do with what I'm cutting though.
@dontbother2455
@dontbother2455 Год назад
When I was younger I used the American saw all the time once I learned how to use it properly it was pretty easy and to be honest was the better version in my book because of how after you learn to use it it allows you to have a free hand to maneuver the wood and is much more stable with less risk of cutting yourself from a saw slide
@MrSinEon
@MrSinEon Год назад
@@dontbother2455american saw?
@dontbother2455
@dontbother2455 Год назад
@@MrSinEon that's what they call it
@hhhhhhhhhhhhhnhhhhhhh
@hhhhhhhhhhhhhnhhhhhhh Год назад
Personally I stand around while someone else does it and refuse if they ask me to help in case i do it wrong then feel bad that I did or feel bad that I did nothing while they do the work.
@dons8122
@dons8122 Год назад
When i need a board cut in two I call Chuck Norris then he looks at the board he thinks about it, looks at it really hard and walks away. As he walks away it snaps in two. Clean cut every time
@kelvinsparks4651
@kelvinsparks4651 Год назад
in my opinion the best of these styles of saw is the one that suits the person using it .
@queencum
@queencum Год назад
And the job at hand!
@MonsieurArlequin
@MonsieurArlequin Год назад
Japanese saws are better for people who learn how to use Japanese saws
@anonymousapproximation8549
@anonymousapproximation8549 Год назад
​@@MonsieurArlequin I find pulling a lot easier, since on push I angle downwards too hard, catching the teeth, and on pull I find easier to lighten up.
@dontbother2455
@dontbother2455 Год назад
​@@anonymousapproximation8549 Japanese saw for people who can't use a saw properly American saw for everyone else
@anonymousapproximation8549
@anonymousapproximation8549 Год назад
@@dontbother2455 American saws for people scared of being called out for their tiny penis, you mean.
@Shop_Simplicity
@Shop_Simplicity Год назад
Best thing about these saws is, you can have both of them is the same shop and use what ever one you want on a given task and switch between them, only choice here is how many is too many!!
@keggerous
@keggerous 7 месяцев назад
I have a little 5"Japanese saw on my tool tote, and I use it all the time to cut little notches and things. It's super useful.
@daldorian
@daldorian Год назад
Just passing through on a yt short binge. Very interesting subject thank you for showing us
@gabrielhenschen9665
@gabrielhenschen9665 Год назад
I never knew that Japanese saws were different, but now I know why the pocher's saw in Ocarina of time didn't look like a saw!
@magnawaves
@magnawaves Год назад
But it DOES
@TheMikesc15
@TheMikesc15 Год назад
Honestly the Japanese ones seem like an extremely nice way for children to get into wood working in school for example. I mean, I for one remember every single child using both hands when doing wood working, and 75% of the time you'd be stuck halfway in the wood cuz you don't have the proper arm strength to push it against the log, sometimes.
@68able2
@68able2 Год назад
japanese people are pretty much just big children in a way
@ender_z4nd3r83
@ender_z4nd3r83 7 месяцев назад
As someone that wont ever use a saw in his life I see this as an absolute win
@ExhaustedScarf
@ExhaustedScarf 6 месяцев назад
DnD Orc character with Angry Carpenter skill. “Grog just stared at the wood until it knew better than to not be Crow’s Nest.”
@m-yday
@m-yday Год назад
I really liked the way you did this! Making it especially clear that both of them are incredibly valid choices with no ‘better’ option, yet still showcasing their differences
@BigStankyFish
@BigStankyFish Год назад
Best one to use is the one that you personally prefer. No right or wrong answer.
@Greasy2240
@Greasy2240 Год назад
This is why to avoid conflict I just cut wood with my bare hands
@Dominik356
@Dominik356 Год назад
"There are no differences." "Here are pro's of the different saws".
@mannmanuel7762
@mannmanuel7762 Год назад
The japanese saw has usually a thinner blade, they dont have to withstand the force of pushing them to cut through the wood. When you pull them, they straighten themselves out
@martinhawes5647
@martinhawes5647 Год назад
Very good point about straightening
@clayrydick4561
@clayrydick4561 Год назад
The thin blade is also what gives them a lot of appeal/common advantages. Because they are so thin, it is far easier to be precise and you waste less wood. As you saw, some western ones have a thin blade with a structural support on top, but this means it can’t be used to cut through thicker pieces. However, it’s very easy to permanently damage a Japanese saw, and much harder to damage a western on. At the end of the day, a sharp saw, of any type preferred by the user is the best saw
@mattj.7756
@mattj.7756 Год назад
“Heh. Yeah, we’re gonna do this.” Took the thought right out of my brain before I could even utter one word of it.
@yourfather8041
@yourfather8041 Год назад
But… he can’t hear you…
@mnemosftb
@mnemosftb Год назад
I usually make a small dent with my teeth then insert a hand grenade. This method consistently works to cut wood for me.
@EnemyOfEldar
@EnemyOfEldar Год назад
Your shirt should just say "May the dp/dt be with you". Better puzzle that way.
@Dylan-hc2lu
@Dylan-hc2lu Год назад
I used a Japanese handsaw when I worked with ICF forms it's nice to just let gravity keep your cut straight
@everydavid
@everydavid Год назад
HAH this proves without a doubt that the superior saw is the one you individually prefer
@cosmicbilly
@cosmicbilly Год назад
I have that same pull saw. I absolutely love it. It's been my go-to saw the last few years. All of my other saws just hang on the shelf.
@knotallthere66
@knotallthere66 7 месяцев назад
It’s all about the power of thought I think the wood is cut where I want and there it is . I built a whole house with this technique .
@menacingpyro2005
@menacingpyro2005 Год назад
Personally I just use a lightsaber. Cleanest cut ever. Even better than a saw or chainsaw.
@RANDOM-jpg93
@RANDOM-jpg93 Год назад
Philippines saw: if the handle is broken.. just repair with metal handle
@cdgonepotatoes4219
@cdgonepotatoes4219 Год назад
I like this explanation, because I can totally believe I found using the japanese-style more comfortable due to it being better at the rock-bottom price range I got it and because I'm not all that good myself yet.
@kachigga69
@kachigga69 6 месяцев назад
I prefer the classic method of punching wood. You don't get tools until you have a crafting table.
@tropicallibra6629
@tropicallibra6629 Год назад
Congrats Mr and Mrs Shorts. House looks amazing.
@miket2120
@miket2120 Год назад
In my out and about tool box, I keep a Japanese saw. Compact, easy to use in the field, makes short work of the wood. In the shop, I tend to gravitate to the Japanese saw for rip and cross cuts (I put the wood I'm cutting on a stool). For dovetails and mitre work, a Western backsaw is my go to.
@Supernova2464
@Supernova2464 Год назад
I find it interesting how to cultures separated by 1000s of miles can develop the same thing with slightly different aspects
@NinjaTyler
@NinjaTyler Год назад
Think of the bow, a hunting weapon basically universally used across the globe for even the most remote civilizations with different styles to fit the different environments and prey being hunted.
@lanededominicis6068
@lanededominicis6068 11 месяцев назад
I'm honestly I love how many uses I get out of my little Japanese saw. Especially if I have to cut something pretty flush at a weird angle. I've also used it to cut some PVC pipe in a tight corner where I essentially just had to lay the saw on top and then give it a yank no way I was going to be able to do that with a saw that cuts on the push stroke
@illitero
@illitero Год назад
"I know there's going to be a _lot_ of argument down below. Whatever you do, don't argue! Noooo, don't feed the algorithm, sthaaaapp! 🤫" Hahaha
@ymfemptyb6967
@ymfemptyb6967 Год назад
I have used both a ton and I personally love to work with japanese saws. On the pull the Japanese tend to straighten themselves out, but just like you said you have to align them perfectly for a straight cut
@jackjumper4231
@jackjumper4231 Год назад
I have both of those saws they use on a regular basis for trim, you’re correct the saws our job oriented
@YamiTheWolf
@YamiTheWolf 9 месяцев назад
Thank you for the work you do. I enjoy your videos
@joeslifejourney150
@joeslifejourney150 Год назад
Sounds like what we say in the kitchen at work. The only bad knife is a dull knife. I think the same can be said for quite a few tools
@charlescarson4254
@charlescarson4254 Год назад
I kinda like dull hammers tbh.
@anonymousapproximation8549
@anonymousapproximation8549 Год назад
​@@charlescarson4254 a sharp hammer is called a pick.
@schyracollbrande1900
@schyracollbrande1900 Год назад
​@@charlescarson4254and my most likey pointy hammer is Jackhammer.
@bakerzermatt
@bakerzermatt Год назад
I liked the way a Japanese saw with aggressive crosscut teeth could quickly remove branches from a tree (and I still like that). When I started woodworking, however, I struggled to cut straight with one. As you said, if you don't start the cut precisely, the cut is just going to go where it wants to go. Then I found a 100 year old Spear & Jackson dovetail saw, learned to sharpen it, and I haven't looked back. Much easier for me to get a precise cut. I also found a 4 tpi Disston rip saw, and I can quickly and accurately tear through boards with that thing (though the surface is a bit rough).
@saitamagotchi44
@saitamagotchi44 Год назад
The real takeaway is to try both, pull saws rock but often the thinner blade means it can go walkies on you, pull saws with a good guide though "chef's kiss".
@frankda4
@frankda4 Год назад
You get a rip and cross with the ryoba saw which is a nice bonus when your staring out and don’t want to buy a bunch of saws.
@El_Migz
@El_Migz Год назад
Is no one going to mention that amazing shirt your wearing???
@justanothermountainbiker6958
LOL i forgot my physics.. what does that mean?
@astral_plane_crash
@astral_plane_crash Год назад
*you're
@El_Migz
@El_Migz Год назад
@@astral_plane_crash dammit 🤣
@astral_plane_crash
@astral_plane_crash Год назад
@@El_Migz just kidding lol. I don't care about that stuff.
@shaythestudent
@shaythestudent Год назад
​@@justanothermountainbiker6958 may the force be with you
@caleblecrow2207
@caleblecrow2207 Год назад
The best one to use is the one that helps you get the results you're looking for.
@ared18t
@ared18t 9 месяцев назад
Bruh the answer at the end made me spew almond milk out of my nostrils
@vcrbetamax
@vcrbetamax Год назад
I just look at it, I saw it with my own eyes.
@ianpearse4480
@ianpearse4480 Год назад
Only 2 ways? My wife would agree but says I always choose the wrong way! LOL. What about seasaws?
@williamstoneman6977
@williamstoneman6977 Год назад
Those are ideal for children.
@nickrider815
@nickrider815 Год назад
Actually I find that one beats the other depending on the use case. Both are good tools to have in your shop for their own reasons
@nasirmeraj618
@nasirmeraj618 Год назад
I tried sawing planks for some garden planters, what I learned is a softer stroke will cut easier/faster than a forceful stroke. I suppose the teeth could also be sharper too...
@stevep5408
@stevep5408 7 месяцев назад
When you asked wether i wanted to cut on the front stroke vs the pull my brain instantly said pull?
@stupidthefish1979
@stupidthefish1979 Год назад
Another factor with Japanese saws is the blades can bend very easily when stored improperly. My dad switched his entire shop to Western saws after we moved to TN because the movers just chucked his saws into a crate and shipped it. Not saying one is better, but please ensure your tools are maintained and stored properly.
@stefannico
@stefannico Год назад
Yeah but that goes for all tools, right? Personally I wouldn't change from Makita to Milwaukee, just because the movers stored my makita handdrill in a bucket of water. 😅
@professor62
@professor62 Год назад
I feel very strongly both ways-I love both saws! And I use either when I think the situation best calls for it. Simple!
@SICresinwrks
@SICresinwrks Год назад
Exactly what I was going to say!
@Danielson1818
@Danielson1818 Год назад
Don't most people keep collecting tools? Having both has been good for me, and I don't even pretend to be a real craftsman.
@craqeheadmusic
@craqeheadmusic Год назад
Personally I like to just stare at the wood menacingly until it breaks in half out of fear
@oxey_
@oxey_ Год назад
final quote is so good
@Tomd8002
@Tomd8002 Год назад
Did a woodworking course as a student and we were forced by the tutor to all use Japanese saws… It was hell. All my skill for woodworking went out the window… all my work became horrendously sloppy… I eventually ended up buying myself a really nice (& expensive) dovetail saw from Veritas. And as expected, the quality of work improved drastically!
@rjtumble
@rjtumble Год назад
I was going to tell a joke about Sodium, but I thought Na, nobody will get it.
@eamonburns9597
@eamonburns9597 Год назад
He He He
@Danielson1818
@Danielson1818 Год назад
That is not a joke to tell at the table.
@eamonburns9597
@eamonburns9597 Год назад
Don't listen to Daniel, he's a bit salty.
@eldir700
@eldir700 Год назад
Bill Burr's new side hustle
@Player1_Mikey
@Player1_Mikey 11 месяцев назад
Off topic but.. I absolutely adore your shirt!
@harlicon
@harlicon Год назад
One of the biggest pros and cons: japanese saws cant be sharpened. They have induction hardened teeth and if you dull those it is always a toss. Western saws on the other hand can and have to be filed and set as often as you like
@JustiaFiat
@JustiaFiat Год назад
There are japanese saws than can be hardened and Western saws that cant. It's a Material question and doesn't have anything to do with the Style in general
@harlicon
@harlicon Год назад
@@JustiaFiat That's just not true. There is surely the 1% that is different from the other 99% but the majority is as stated above
@Mosstachio
@Mosstachio Год назад
​@@harlicon Yeah, because they had the technology in ancient Japan to induction harden the teeth. Bro. Admit you're wrong. I've never even heard of induction hardening, and can't see how that would work on just the teeth since the teeth would need to be completely encircled by the induction coil. If it was the whole blade, sure. However, the process of hardening is just heating to the desired temp, then quenched at the desired rate. The speed at which you heat doesn't matter, but uniformity of heating does matter to an extent. Induction heating heats more uniformly.
@harlicon
@harlicon Год назад
@@Mosstachio Sry mate but thats not how induction heating works. ru-vid.comMZ0nvCVH3JM?feature=share Just a short video that shows it. And those saw teeth are harder but also become brittle and cannot be filed/sharpened again
@Mosstachio
@Mosstachio Год назад
@@harlicon They can be sharpened and filed. What you're sharpening with has to be harder than the metal you're sharpening. I didn't think of doing the induction heating that way, but it still functions the same. It's just another way to harden. I would rather have a hardened edge that's harder to sharpen than an edge that folds after one stroke and is easier to sharpen
@benjamintworek
@benjamintworek Год назад
Sounds like these saws are both saws that saw
@azzajohnson2123
@azzajohnson2123 Год назад
I tell ya what, they always like the longer push stroke than a short pull stroke, especially when you master the single pump.
@NintendoNerd64
@NintendoNerd64 Год назад
"is one more expensive than the other? yes"
@Youtubaer06
@Youtubaer06 Год назад
The comment at the end nails it! xD
@prego2011able
@prego2011able Год назад
I use European frame saws haha
@jackthewartortle9523
@jackthewartortle9523 Год назад
I like your conclusion, and I think it applies to a lot of things in life.
@KiteDzzy
@KiteDzzy Год назад
I. NEED. THEM. BOTH.
@locke8628
@locke8628 Год назад
*Man with chainsaw walks in the room to completely invalidate the argument*
@aleksjamnik5360
@aleksjamnik5360 7 месяцев назад
No this isnt a saw for cutting trees a chainsaw is a sledghammer sure great to have but you won’t use it to nail in a couple of nails
@johndavid2416
@johndavid2416 Год назад
Me who was paying attention to your shirt: 😍😍😍
@pickyyeeter
@pickyyeeter 7 месяцев назад
It's cool, but a little derivative
@woodglove
@woodglove Год назад
Outstanding answering this question for me. I kept wondering about that. I just assumed it's tradition.
@Newguy-qb6kz
@Newguy-qb6kz 7 месяцев назад
I usually insert some control rods and isotopes and split the atoms apart
@sixmanace5710
@sixmanace5710 Год назад
I feel that Japanese saws are very good for the more deep and precise cuts, such as a deep dovetail or something of the sort. They are great for cutting the male end of dovetails for the angle specifically. A conventional saw is very good for straight cuts and material removal.
@theflyingj8957
@theflyingj8957 4 месяца назад
The one to use is the one most available in your area.
@Sioux-periorGaming
@Sioux-periorGaming Год назад
The best one to use is the one you personally feel comfortable with using. Like comparing chopsticks and forks.
@redcastlefan
@redcastlefan Год назад
Finally a video where ; Saw: 😐 Saw but Japan: also 😐
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