Anyone sign this petition if you want an extended version of the movie with Jokers deleted scenes in it: www.change.org/p/warner-brothers-we-want-a-suicide-squad-joker-cut
Anthony Lockheart _Yeah, true. ^^_ _I really liked the movie but cutting Joker's scenes? Wtf. Just because of the audience disliking the abuse of Harley x Joker even though abuse was shown on screen many times in different movies..._
And well it also isn’t fair to Jared when there are critics saying that he was barely in the movie and that his scenes sucked and stuff...like that isn’t his fault that the majority of his scenes were cut
Fuck yeah! So stupid they didn't. Only reason is so they can make more money by having more viewers. It being pg13 you got tons more potential viewers than a R. Pisses me off. I love Jared and wanted a good back story on Harley and Mr. J. 👿
I feel like most people watched this movie because of Joker and Harley and they just cut out so many scenes.. also I feel bad for Jared, he probably worked so hard on this.
I would've paid double the original ticket price to have seen the deleted scenes. Leto looks so sad in these interviews, he was so committed to the character
Of course he's not happy. Imagine the pressure of the character that's been there for years, you work hard to interpret it, meet people, concentrate and all of a sudden, most of your scenes get cut. The Joker was the most expected character in this movie.
exactly, i would be pissed, work for months and than cut all of his parts?! and then people are judging hin non stop and saying:"he's not heath ledger" well, he's not supposed to be HIM! his screen time was 6 minutes long , hiw can the judge his acting skilles(which are amazing, he didnt win an oscar for nothing) over 6 minutes?? it doesnt make sense
No need to. Warner Bros full intention was to boost sales of their Bluray by doing a Joker edition. They knew people would want it, so they purposely show a lot of Joker footage on the trailer, to make people asking for the Joker. Just watch, petition or not, WB gonna release a Joker edition for profit.
Jared looked really annoyed that his scenes were cut, he practically repeated the same words over and over again, emphasizing on almost everything he said.
I'm not Jared's biggest fan but I do feel for him, he did go in deep for the role (maybe a bit too much) and was probably led to believe he was going to be in it a lot more. He was basically used as a marketing tool. He got played. I feel I got played while I was watching the movie because the biggest draw for me was seeing Jared's interpretation of the Joker but all we got was like 10mins.
He's so pissed. Its so clear that he's trying so hard to control how upset he is. Such a shame because the few scenes he had made me want to see more of his Joker.
+BritneysBase not even honestly there was like four scenes. I can understand why. Ya know? It's a suicide squad movie not a joker and Harley movie. I wish they'd hair shoot a movie about both of them and everything they've gone through together and stuff and put the scenes they cut form suicide squad into that movie. Plus that would pull in so much money which is what they want. Everyone would want to see it. Especially all the teen girls finding out about Harley
You can tell Jared went so deep into this role. He was fully committed to the Joker, only to be disappointed when the studio decided to cut most of his scenes out. Don't get me wrong, I understand why they did it. Test audiences didn't respond well to the abusive side of the Joker/Harley Quinn relationship, so the director and the studio opted to make it more romantic. I don't think Jared is upset that they went this route. He's spoken highly of Margot in several interviews (have you seen the way he LOOKS at her?) and he clearly ships Joker/Harley, but he wanted more of his work to be recognized. Either way, we NEED more of Jared Leto's Joker and Margot Robbie's Harley Quinn. Joker/Harley FTW!!!
Michael Tarantolo I respect canon, but SS -- like most comic book movies and TV shows -- is an adaptation. It's not 100% true to the comics because they want to try something new and different.
+mrdevilishdan666 I mean you can... But it would be pointless . We need a full on joker & harley Quinn movie, obviously batman is gonna be in the movie, batman created the joker, and joker gives batman his purpose
I still think it could be done and be a blockbuster. The Joker has come into his own... he's not a secondary character anymore. He could pull off his own movie and do it sans Batman and Harley. You've just got to believe in it my friends... believe and it will be...
Wtf, at the end of the movie I was already wishing that they would put in more joker scenes. And now I find out that they could have but they just cut them out? FUCKIN PISSED. Rather watch just scenes with Joker and Harley than the bullshit they pulled cutting it all out.
+Olga Amanowicz ohh jared is controlling himself ALOT if you've seen artifact documentary you'll know.. There was alot that was said to jared by David n half of those didnt happen. they even talked about doing it R rated and seemed like that was the plan in the begining
missStockholm i meant inside xd in outside he seems very calm but i'm sure inside he's still (even a little bit) pissed but he try to hide it and act proffesional
_Never have I ever felt bad for Leto. He look so pissed that majority of his scenes got cut. If I played a character that mainly EVERYONE is hyped for, acted this character for 6 months, stayed in character for 24/7, and shot more scenes then expected and get less screentime than I expected when I see the movie, I will be feeling like I was scammed._ _And if I know the real reason why they were cut (I know why. Audience dislike the HarleyxJoker scenes), I would blame the audience for not knowing that Joker is a psychopath and really doesn't love (or care) Harley... He's doesn't have empathy and psychopaths never feel emotions._ _Let's just hope for a DVD release with a deleted scene section._
_Me, myself, doesn't like HarleyxJoker but if you wanna show their relationship very well in the movie, show how their relationship actually is (Like in the comics). Joker is also why Harley is... Harley._ (He's her origin story)
I honestly watched the movie because I saw Harley and the Joker. The people promoting the movie all used the Joker as click bait. I came because I thought I was going to see more of the Joker, only to find out he has only 5-10 minutes in the entire film. very disappointing. Jared worked VERY hard acting out his part too, as well as planning out the joker's look, as discussed in his other interview. That's just not fair to cut so many of his scenes as well as the other characters. They should really make a Joker movie. I would 100% go and watch it. (Sorry if I'm sounding outrageous, but a little note to the producers: IF YOUR GOING TO MAKE A MOVIE LIKE THIS, DON'T USE THE JOKER AS CLOCK BAIT ONLY TO MAKE US FIND OUT HE'S BARELY EVEN IN THE MOVIE. very disapointing to Joker fans such as myself.)) Don't get me wrong though, I still loved the movie, I just think more of the Joker would have made it a little better.
tbh i think the joker movie would've been better if they had cast jared again instead of changing it. his version of the joker was so good and he went to such extremes to make it so good that i think he really deserved that role. i haven't seen birds of prey yet but i know that jared wasn't cast for that either. i'm not sure how much the joker was in birds of prey but assuming the joker made it into at least one small scene or made on cameo, i just don't see why they wouldn't have used jared.
@@amber-bx8rz as much as i love Jared Leto and his joker, i don’t think anyone could’ve been better than Joaquin Phoenix in Joker. Their versions of joker are completely different and Phoenix was made for that specific type of joker.
A rated-R movie featuring Harley Quinn (Margot Robbie) and Jared Leto (the Joker) would be bad-ass. If there's anything that would help to propel DC to the epic proportions of Marvel movies, it would definitely be a film like that.
His joker was absolutely perfect, nothing more that we could ask. Also, the adorable psychotic relationship, that’s where I complain. I wanted to see more of that. Much more. SO CUTE
Right! Im with jared leto on how pissed he is. Im sure theyre gonna release an extended cut with all of his scenes. Such a waste of an amazing talent. So handsome too :)
+Miss Sadie I really hope so! Or at least use them for the next movie. I'll be so unbelievably sad if we never get to see those scenes. Sad and pissed.
+7teenageSmokers Agreed! I felt like the movie was so short. It felt like they were trying to fit in too much into one movie so it looked like they left out soooo much. Not just with the Joker and Harley but the rest of the characters as well. It felt like it was missing so much. I'm quite upset about it.
If they get rid of Leto as the Joker because hes a little upset his scenes were cut (understandably so) I'm metaphorically burning DC to the fucking ground!!! (and quite possibly literally if they don't give Harley & Mr. J their own movie with Batfleck in it!)
Agreed, I mean look at how fantastic he get the job done! He is so into the character, more than the other cast. He deserve more with that effort of his given in to this movie.
I wish Black Mask was the villain and get into some personal Vendetta with Amanda Waller leading to her using the Suicide Squad for her own gain instead and just have the Joker focused on Harley by taking out both Black Mask and Amanda Waller's organizations to get her back.
suicide squad are made for going against meta humans not some human criminal mob boss.. they dont need a bunch of skilled villains to go against one joker... batman or other agents can go after him
+missStockholm Actually no. The Suicide Squad were originally formed to do the government's dirty work. Deal with foreign threats where the government couldn't directly intervene. Point is dealing with *spoilers* 😯 Enchantress was stupid, specially having the members of the justice league running around. Their villain should have been a non metahuman, specially not one as powerful as Enchantress. You seriously think Harley is better suited than Wonder Woman to deal with a metahuman? Come on!😂 I enjoyed the movie but I'm not blind to its flaws. 👎 I liked the characters but the movie was choppy and incoherent. I wish we got a bit more Joker; I couldn't really form an opinion on him.😉
Nayeli Ramos precisely criminal organizations like the League of Assassins, the Outlaws or like I mentioned before Black Mask's Organization would be perfect match for the Squad. Leave the Meta Humans for the JL.
Yeah Im sad we didn't see a lot of them but it sounds like it's going somewhere bigger now which I think is what they deserve. Rumors had it where he's more abusive and Harley breaks free from Joker and I think it's way too soon for that, I want to see them cause mayhem together as main characters. I'd love to see these deleted scenes and hopefully we will but I'm glad they didn't go with that storyline.
+Nick I agree with u on that, even the creator of Harley Quinn cried when he saw the film and saw how much Joker loves Harley and he likes that version better then the cartoon and comics, so do i im tired of the abusive shit its been done and its used and repetative and im glad the film when to a different take on Joker and Harley.
***** ur welcome, I think is right and fresh to have Joker finally love Harley because even psychopaths can love look at hannibal lector, red dragon, norman bates from psycho they all can feel love towards another person why can Joker, he can love Harley and I hope DC makes it this way and keeps it this way forever.
I'm already gonna pay like 160 bucks for the collectors edition Blu Ray with the Harley Quinn statue, add another disc to it with a rated R cut of the movie and ALL of Jared's deleted scenes and I'll pay an extra 20 or 30 bucks. I just want to see ALL the work he did.
+Crazy Cazzy me too! i really like jared leto as joker, he's actually kinda hot as that character xD 💕💓 and it's pretty weird that i'm atrracted to a psychopath... xd sry for bad eng
They should have done a short film that was released before the actual film, which covered the whole backstory of Harley and The Joker, that way suicide squad would have worked better.
MadAnnoyingShows yeah, not just Joker and Harley. There should have been a movie for all of the squad. They gave them all backstories (or most of them). They just needed something that showed what they could have done.
is it me or is it crazy how jared leto hides his anger really well? I think that's why he looks 's young, because if he's angry or frustrated about something he's able to vent it out very nicely. lol
He is defo really sad and let down.. Imagine you feel like you have done your best work on a project and 80percent of it dosnt get shown or seen by anyone how sad would you be :/
exactly.... but he needs to be careful not to express too much anger at his scenes being removed. studios and directors are not keen on their performers speaking out and going against the grain.
You know, Jared is SO different from Joker. Like, I tried to find similarities between the two, and I couldn't find anything.... But at 3:24, you see a little bit of crazy in him.. like, "I'm going to murder someone if the Joker doesn't catch on." Just like a, "I'm gonna go crazy," smile.
It's a damn shame we didn't get to see that much of him, I really enjoyed what we saw of his take on the character. Too much studio involvement ruins films. Let the artists work.
Jared was the sexiest joker I've ever seen in my LIFE, if they don't make him joker from now on and give him more screen time as the joker I will burn DC to the fucking ground!!
I agree. I always thought the Joker was ugly, and old. Until I saw Jared Leto play as him. Well the Joker was still ugly, but his acting made him sexy.
why would they even advertise this movie so heavily based around the joker when he barely even in it? i was really disappointed when i saw the movie. it was okay, but the parts that really caught my attention were joker scenes.
I LOVED his take on the joker. And Margot was just incredible as well. What they need to do is make an R rated movie that can really delve into that relationship. *That* would be something I'd want to see!
I would pay double the price of ticket to see a joker and Harley movie. Fuck it I'll pay twice the price just to see all the scenes they cut from the movie
I feel the same! It felt rushed, and if it had been given more time they could have added a bit more depth and backstories to the characters. I loved it as it was though, and hopefully they'll make more in-depth spin offs in the future.
You are aware that the relationship between the Joker & Harley is super abusive... right? Like, this wouldn't be a romantic movie -- it would be a movie about a girl with stockholm syndrome & her abuser. Just letting you know what you're asking for.
Dr. Zoidberg Not really in the context of how Suicide Squad set it up. Stockholm Syndrome would suggest that she spent a lot of time under his capture before she got all twisted. Rather, in the movie, it seems to suggest that she had some level of autonomy in her _decision_ to jump into the vat, which I appreciated, the same for the original cartoon, where she was already fascinated by him in the first place, and ended up falling in love with him. It wouldn't be a traditional romance, no, and there might well be abuse in it. However, it could be viewed as a romance, potentially, particularly since Waller described them as "the king and queen of Gotham City, and God help anyone who disrespected the queen."
ChaoticButterfly I know. For instance, in this cut of the film where it looks like he pushes Harley out of the helicopter to save her, originally, he pushes her out to kill her before any shit goes down. I know at least one other scene where he hit her was cut. The actual story of Harley Quinn & the Joker is that she was his psychiatrist in Arkham Asylum & her original name was Harleen Quinzel. Long story short, the joker was so manipulative that he basically broke her & turned her into a maniac, just like him. He never felt any true affection for her -- she was just a puppet for him. That's why fans were so happy when she finally got the guts to leave him & hook up with Poison Ivy
Dr. Zoidberg Yeah, I don't really have a problem with him hitting her. She probably hits him, at times, too. At least, that's what happened in Harley's first appearances. She'd reach her limit, then she'd turn on him, making him cower some. Oh, I know her story quite well, which is why I said to call it "Mad Love," the story that shows her origin. As for his feelings, Dini stated that Joker loved her as much as he was capable, which, given the Joker, isn't a whole lot, but it's something. Hell, at the end of No Man's Land, he launches her off in a rocket because he begins to realize he's starting to feel something softer for her, and he hates it. -.- As a fan... FUCK the New 52 and all their bullshit...
I knew from your Mad Love comment that you knew it well. I was empathetically embarrassed when I was reading Zoidberg talking to you like you were a layman in the DC universe lol.
+Outcast Gamer Yes but now they want to change their relationship a bit. Ofc still have those twisted and abusive moments. But a lot of fans wants to see bit of a romantic Joker and Harley relationship.
if you cut scenes from the movie, dont fucking advertise them in the stupid trailers! And don't market the movie in such a way that makes everybody think that he would have a much more substantial role. That is literally one of the best ways to piss everybody off. Don't worry Jared, even if we dont get an extended cut, I think Ben Affleck will do you much more justice. What Margot said about having "too much" joker footage is beyond frustrating. If thats the case, then this was not the right movie to debut that character in. This movie could have benefited so much from a more street level story with the Joker as the big bad.
Yeah I remember seeing in the trailer the snippet of the joker with a burnt face and a grenade saying "BYE BYE" and I was waiting for that part during the movie. but it never came :(
+natalie lilly that was meant to be after his chopper crashed and he showed up to get Harley but she didn't come so he chucked a grenade and well bye bye
You can sign to request an extended cut here: www.change.org/p/david-ayer-requesting-the-extended-version-of-suicide-squad-with-the-complete-scenes-of-jared-leto-as-the-joker-exigimos-version-extendida-de-la-pelicula-suicide-squad-con-todas-las-escenas-de-jared-leto-como-the-joker
As to why his Joker was cut so much, I would blame either the studio or the fans themselves. Movie studios want money at the end of the day, whether a movie is good or bad. Not to mention, DC and Marvel have been having a "size" fight for decades. DC is trying to churn out movies at the same pace as Marvel which is giving us the half-assed rushed movies with backwards plots. MoS, BvS, and Suicide Squad all had the potential to be amazing movies if they were done the right way. The Joker has to be dark in order to be done the right way. Yes, he's all about the "laughs" but even with that, he's still a psychopath that kills people. And in order to portray Harley and Joker the right way, THE RELATIONSHIP HAS TO BE ABUSIVE. Which is where I blame the fans. I'm sorry because I know that seeing an abusive relationship is a trigger for some people, but that's the only way to tell their story. I'm not saying they have to include the more brutal aspects but fact of the matter is, their relationship is essential to Harley's character. And whether he wants to admit this or not, it's clear that on some level, The Joker does care about Harley. He might not be in love with her but he does care. Have Harley hit him back a few times, have them argue, or have them throw knives at each other. Anything. But don't downplay what their relationship is. I blame this politically correct world we live in.
some of them wont because they even had scenes where Warner Bros had them go back and film something different. So like yeah very little deleted scenes will be shown on dvd. Even though they filmed sooooo much more than the deleted scenes the dvd is gonna have.
They cut out all the stuff that defines the Harley-Joker relationship, which is historically extraordinarily abusive. In the comics and other media, Joker sees Harley as nothing more than a plaything that exists merely for his whims and amusement.
I'd appreciate a version where they didn't pussy out on showing the bad parts of the relationship as well. Don't get me wrong--I love the partnership, but I'm not faint of heart and I like the relationship multi-faceted. You can show them fighting and being cruel with each other and still exploring their twisted version of love x.x Guess we'll never get that level of character depth when the studio just wants money from the general audience. Ah well. I really want to see more of them, though.
see i would argue that the joker really doesn't love harley, i would say he uses her and she is so obsessed she doesn't care. its a really sad relationship when you look beneath the surface.
Fair opinion. It doesn't have to be considered love, nothing by normal, socially acceptable standards certainly, I mean their definition of 'fun' would be murder so -- but I'm of the opinion that he is more attached to her than he'd ever admit. Does that even remotely count as some sort of affection? I dunno. Up to interpretation or whatever fits your view of them. The obsession might not be equal, but in some versions of them I think it definitely goes both ways. And yeah, If you look at the whole picture -- their lives are sad, period. Not just the relationship. Mentally unstable and constantly causing mayhem or being arrested. I still enjoy seeing this hot mess of a couple in action, tho.
There is no love, Harley is just a tool. It's wierd to see audiences really believing that this is literally a "relationship". I know Warner is fucking the original material, but to confuse people at this point is something scary.
Sigh. I read the comics. I know their history, I know all the arguments. I'm not fucking confused or new to the material so they aren't tricking me into seeing something. I personally don't like being given boring ass, easy, black and white excuses for character motives like 'Nope. He's incapable of this thing. Not even possible. Ever. In any incarnation because, reasons. If he does, someone wrote him wrong.' If someone wants to hit me with some reasoning behind that, like they consider Joker a psychopath and as a result, not emotionally capable of forming such attachments, then okay I see that perspective and I respect it. I personally consider him a sociopath, he used to be a somewhat normal individual like you or I and as he likes to claim, all it took was one bad day. While it would be impossible to have any sort of healthy relationship with another person, a sociopath can form attachments. No beautiful romance, hell no but uh...there is a relationship of some sort. I mean I know what you meant, but since the word covers the way any two people are connected, they do have one. I personally see it as another way to make the characters complex. Why is it easy to accept that Joker has some sick sort of infatuation with Bats that pisses all over the lines between love and hate, where he wants to shatter him to prove a point but thrives off their conflict at the same time--but he can't have something contradictory like that with Harley? To each their own, man--but that's just how I personally see the characters. We're not all gonna interpret things the same way--I mean look at New52. Some hate it, some love it--but my perspective isn't 'WB gave me Villains in love, AWWWW
Idk why he's getting bashed. First of all he was probably in the movie for a whole 4 minutes. How in the living FUCK can anyone make an accurate assessment based on 4 minutes? I don't even know if that's right, it could be less. He completely transformed himself. Wait til he's the main villain and we get to see his sick, twisted schemes. Leto's Joker would be FUCKING PERFECT for an R rated film.
Samantha Castillo I read that they wanted to focus more on the mission at hand, defeating Enchantress. Rather then too much on back stories. It left us wanting more so it's brilliant. I could watch 10 movies based on Harley and Joker alone! Lol
OMG thank you! finally someone smart and not that ,,only Heath Ledger, every other joker sucks" kind of human :-: of course all respect to Ledger but jeez it's really annoying that his fans don't let anybody else be a joker, even if he would be amazing, they still will say that he's shit and Heath is the best
+Louie Cafarella well it is SUICIDE SQUAD.. so maybe they shouldnt have joker at all cuz u know he's the main star no matter what n even if he's there for 5 min ppl would want him more n care less for the 2 hour main story
The movie was corney....the best part of the movie WAS THE JOKER AND HARLEY STORY..that sucks that they cut so many scenes out...I heard a Harley movie us coming out..maybe it'll be in there...
There is a petition where you can sign for just that and it will be sent to Warner Bros. Over 300 people have signed it so hopefully it'll work especially since he's not happy either.
The sheeps will buy cinema tickets and the extended cut blue-ray. This is kinda of cute, actually. Faithful fans is something ironic and interesting at the same time.
They fucked up, they messed the Joker up, Leto did the best with what he was given and when it didn't work with test audiences they cut most of his scenes, who can blame the guy for being pissed.
From what I hear the test screening was absolutely loved, some saying it should have debut the DCEU not BvS. Idk why they would change it if that's the case.
+Alexander McKnight There were 3 screenings 2 were well received, the other was terrible apparently. Probably the one most critics saw, that or DC didn't pay them as well as Sony.
Hate to say this but the critics dont really have much idea what fans like. There are many films I have seen and loved that have been reviewed really badly. I wish they left it the way it was with all the joker scenes. I think Jared leto was well cast and I enjoyed him a lot.
They even cut the scene where the joker's face is messed up saying "ba-bye". and It is said that it was supposed to be that joker showed up on the squad fighting enchantress scene. but they changed it. it's a shame, for all the effort leto went through and all the make up and effects on his face just to be shown on trailers.
+Anon Zero wtf?? haha.. what a waste.. btw another scene about enchantress say "lets do something" I think I'm going to like that scene and really want to watch it bcoz I like enchantress.. but they cut it too..so sad.
That's not how the relationship really is. With changes and cuts you barely get the idea but the scene in the car proves that Harley lives for the Joker but not vice-versa at all.
+Pedro Nascimento oh believe me i know their true relationship well i read the comics im just really saying that it was nice to see the joker cared about harley but yeah i get the point
+1XSilencer I totally agree. I love the pairing (however I do not in any way condone abusive relationships) and it was nice to see a new version of their relationship. I would like to see more of this. It would be awesome if DC changed joker's abusiveness into oppession like Harley's; like in this movie. I get that "that's not how their relationship works", but come on, stories change and characters change all the time, especially when they have been around for so long. So yeah, there's my two cents :)
+lillian layne-cotter me too! Not enough people understand that comic book movies can deviate from the comics a little to keep characters and concepts fresh. I personally really liked this dynamic
Absolutely NOTHING against them AT ALL, I'm just saying that they tried to give a nice balance but yes if they included 15mins more, it would have been even better in MY opinion.
It wouldn't have been a problem if that was the plan from the start. The fact is that they got an extremely talented recent OSCAR WINNER and basically just used him and the character of The Joker to pull in viewers to come watch the movie. Almost every single Joker scene in the movie was in the trailers. The real problem is that they hyped Jared's performance of The Joker up so fucking much, only to make Leto and his preparation of the role look half-assed. If they hadn't used him as bait to get the general audience to see the movie, as well as making him do so much work and film a shit ton of scenes just to cut almost all of them out in the end WB wouldn't be getting so much hate. However, the scumbags that run Warner Bros. decided they would make this man look like an asshole just because they think they know what the audience will like. This movie was created for THE FANS and WB turned it into a movie that would please the GENERAL AUDIENCE. Which, by the way, they absolutely failed at.
The way he was portried by Leto was really good, but the fact that he was barely in the film was sad af :c More people would probably like the film, too, if they didn't cut out all those scenes. A lot of my friends keep commenting to me that like he is only a sellout for the movie because he was barely in it, but when you get to see that there's a bunch of scenes he did that the editor cut out..
