@@GodLovesComics yes that is how narratives work… events change the narrative. You know like how a story works. People get proven wrong. Do you have to always be right all the time? I’m sure you’ve never picked a series wrong
Bro picks are picks, we get them right sometimes, we get them wrong sometimes. But don't be acting like making the right picks determines a person's knowledge base - picks and predictions at the end are just fun and filled with bias at end of day. Last time I checked, the casual Celtics fans (some of the most delusional when it comes to actual analytical basketball scheming conversations), always have said the same thing over and over again every year - this is the Celtics year, JB and JT are the best duo in the league. Was it wrong to say "Have them prove it" since we had never really seen them perform as the best duo before, let alone have Celts winning the championship? Since the JT and JB era started in 2018, they came close always, but never got the deal done until yesterday. But the same prideful takes Celtics fans had this year were the exact same thing being said over the last 6 years. This is my problem, a fan is usually talking hella lot when their picks are right. But only people with great knowledgebase will know when to jump ship and see the flaws ahead of time, and feel free to criticize their own.
@@brandonknipp4167no other player on that roster was an all star this year Y’all wanna call players who made one or two all star teams 6 years ago all stars to fit your narrative 😂
@@JCrossover123you have no brain if you believe they the only two all stars. You can be an Allstar caliber player and not make it every year. You could trade Tatum and brown with like 10 different players and that team would still win
@@JCrossover123 white and Holliday shoulda been all stars and you should know that and pingis is like a god w everything he can do they don’t have a bench worth a lick is why they had to play there starters the whole game 🤡
Why is he the most hated player?? Literally every media outlet has had him as a top 5-10 player every season this decade while he had never won a championship or MVP. Every one else in the top 10 has one or both. How does that make him hated?
@@SPRVLN27stop it you can’t be serious, all anybody has said over the past few years is Tatum is a choker, and that Jaylen brown is better than him, people called Tatum soft, they were so down on Tatum that people actually believed the Mavericks had a chance 🤣 Tatum has been a punching bag for years now
@@thekingbradablethey weren’t crowned top 10-12 players…🤣they were crowned "way better" than both the Celtics Js by nba twitter and comments on social media. No ranking had either of the js above either of them.
@@SPRVLN27most hated? as far as I know Lebron still has the most haters. while he does have a lot of fans, there are a huge nunber of haters as well mainly because of his drama, antics, attitude, team hopping, etc.
In all seriousness though Celtics front office did what they had to do, hit on their draft picks with Tatum & Brown and put them in position to win and wasn't afraid to trade anybody for the sake of a championship.
You got that last part right on the nail. As a Celtics fan I was beyond PISSED when we traded smart (and still miss him) he was a fan favorite and a guy who wanted to be here his whole career I mean the guy dyed his hair green. It was tough not seeing him there last night but it’s worth it
This is a great case of a team with high expectations getting it done and delivering. The Celtics front office did an insane job, having 2 max players and still managing to have a deep talented roster. Tatum and Brown have been nothing but professionals and made their mark as an all-time duo
Crazy how much the media switches. We knew from day 1 Tatum and Brown were special. Yet there were “experts” saying they should break up Brown and Tatum. 😂😂 banner 18!!
@@Jackson54321how does Perk hat Boston when he played there, won a chip in 2008.. and oh yeah he picked the Celtics to win the championship early this season He made that comment two years ago
@@JCrossover123 have you never heard Perk? He said last year and in 2021 to break up JT and JB and said the Celtics wouldn’t win without KP, yet they went 1-1 on the road without him and dominated overall all year without him. Perk called for Mazzulla’s head when the Celtics were facing adversity and he doesn’t care about his 2008 ring with THIS Boston team.
The media know what this duo can potentially do now that they’ve got over the hump after yall the years of trying to break them up and create division between them and the fact that they can potentially do it in Boston got them sick right now
Tatum and Brown got caught up in hero ball a few times (dribbling the clock down, taking a static 3) and thankfully Jrue made the ball move by cutting, and distributing.Thankful for Jrue and Derrick White. They were so key to this team's success.
because they were up 20 with 10 minutes left. Mavs can't score even with a small team. so yes, i think it was coach's decision / the correct decision to slow the game down and dribble out the shot clock for every possession possible.
Dru and D.White proves why successful teams can’t get that success with 3 or 4 teammates standing around watching the star player or players. And star players eventually learn that they can’t do it all by themselves, you have to get everyone involved…
That was awkward… people knew after game 2 this series was over.. he should have said “WE DID IT” after game 2. That Tatum commercial right after they won was ridiculous. He didn’t even win Finals MVP..
@@ThaTawpDawgif he had said that after game 2 you would’ve cried your eyes out on here complaining lmao foh. He’s the first option on the Celtics hence why they pre made the commercial for him. Hey it? Jb doesn’t get all the traps and doubles, jt does.
@@youngerudit2524brown is a better overall player than Tatum ESPECIALLY in the finals , lol even Luka gets doubled WAY more than Tatum an still scores no problem . Lol Tatum is just a really good regular season player an nothing more 🤷
haters just be talking almsot every superstar struggled when winning their first one curry wasn't his normal self 2015 finals that's why iggy got finals MVP how quickly they forget tho lol
Congratulations to the Barstan Celtics. Steph Curry didn't have a Finals MVP until his fourth ring...so no big deal. Shout out to Derrick White for achieving his final form (bald) and immediately winning a chip.
But unlike tatum steph did deserve the first finals mvp in 2015, he is the only player in nba history to average more than 26 points and not win the nba finals he did 3 times. Obviously the other 2 times vs kd he didn’t deserve it but versus iguodala he did.
JB was doing the lockdown defense and clutch while JT was doing the defense as well and wise playmaking. Remove one of these two and they will not be the same Celtics team.
@@DahliaOliva🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. Your name is Olivia so it’s no wonder. But that’s just not how it works. Not even mentioning the fact that kd was over 10% more efficient than him,there are other "stats" or metrics to measure inlsct other than scoring. When kd was there,Steph never came close to deserving anything.
Yes but it’s not nearly as much as curry. Tatum is 26 he still has a good 10 years left in the nba barring injury I believe he will get at least 1-2 finals mvp in that span
@@ACE_1923lol every time someone wins it’s they’re just gonna start mopping up rings lol. Happened with Giannis and up until a month or two ago people thought Denver was a new dynasty.
100% the media is trying to push a narrative to get Jaylen Brown and Jayson Tatum to turn on eachother. They’re doing this whole “well who deserved mvp more, Jayson Tatum has a signature shoe he should be the face of the franchise etc etc”. It’s a little sick and it’s getting old. It’s also partially because the Celtics has a good team right now. Good depth, good starters, an actual duo that can play off of eschother
Thank you, gentlemen, for all of the excellent box-outs, defense, and adaptive offense. Thank you, Mazzula, for your genius, focus, and leadership. Thank you, Tatum, for your humility, leadership, and professional focus. Thank you, Brown, for your tenacity, leadership, and playing with all of your mind and soul. Thank you, Horford, for being a passionate leader and consummate professional. Thank you, Porzingis, for having the courage to give us 100% of your heart even when you only had about 80% of your body. Thank you, Brissett, for your willingness to come off the bench and use your athleticism and hunger to win games. Thank you, Davison, for staying focused even when your body wasn't feeling up to par-and for your quickness. Thank you, Hauser, for BEING THE KYRIE-STOPPER and for not getting discouraged when the shots weren't falling. Thank you, Holiday, for sacrificing so much just to fit into our system, yet still stepping up like an MVP consistently when it counted the most. Thank you, Kornet, for your passion, athleticism, and consistent focus on excellence. Thank you, Mykhailiuk, for your impressive athleticism and patience while on the bench. Thank you, Peterson, for your excellent shot-making and decision-making. Thank you, Pritchard, for being an insanely talented baller who decided to stay even when tempted to leave-and for the ICE in your veins. Thank you, Queta, for your athletic prowess, enthusiasm to play, and good decision-making in the paint. Thank you, Springer, for your cool-headed defense and willingness to sacrifice your offense even though you have the ability to shine. Thank you, Tillman, for being a guy who only cares about helping out our team even though you have so much more to offer. Thank you, Walsh,. for being the FUTURE of the Celtics. You're gonna be the difference-maker once you get your chance to shine. Thank you, White, for being the humblest star in the NBA and your unflagging confidence and ability to execute when we needed it the most. And thanks to the entire coaching staff, support staff, stadium staff, doctors, therapists, and practice staff. And last but not least, thanks to all of your family members who sacrificed time with you during this amazing season.
The media is the reason JT didn't win the FMVP, this finals was all about a mixed match, and the Celtics wouldn't have won if JT had not played the 5 to take the Dallas game away. We watched the game JT shot badly just like Luka but that was the main reason they did. Let that sink in he led his team in PPG, assist, and rebound. He draws more double-team. This narrative about the media needs to stop.
It's stupid how everyone is forgetting the fact that Tatum was the one being blitzed and doubled from the tip of the Finals and the whole playoffs. Kidd was saying that Brown is the Celtics' best player but was sending doubles and blitzing Tatum. Not sure Brown would have played this well if he was truly treated like the Celtics best player. Think Tatum deserved the MVP more overall.
We will see it's hard to run back to back championships in any sport anybody can win next year just like after the Warriors won in 2022 nobody ever nuggets to win in 2023.
We will see it's hard to win back the back championships in any sport the Golden State Warriors won in 2022 no one expected the Denver Nuggets to win championship in 2023
Tatum has proven he can score with the best of them in past years, the Jayson we saw this finals was a less engaged offensive Jayson, and more of a systematic Jayson that just wanted to do anything to win, and be as selfless as possible
RE-LAX! There are guys like Russell, Bird, Hondo, McHale, Cousy, Pierce, Garnett… Who’ve ALL WORN CELTICS GREEN! GOAT? Come on now, there’s ALSO a guy named JORDAN!
@@juwanharris5425 Your opinion is completely irrelevant due to your lack of ability to write in proper english! “He goated now?” Wow, please go back to school and get an education. Your future self and family will thank you!
Its true though. If he didn’t give up playing hero ball this season i don’t think this championship would have happened. He made sacrifices needed for the team. I appreciate his character and focus
🥷☘️ Jayson Tatum through 7 seasons - 1x NBA champion (2024) - 5x NBA All-Star (2020-2024)(4x starter) - NBA All-Star Game MVP (2023) - 3x All-NBA First Team (2022,2023,2024) - All-NBA Third Team (2020) - NBA Eastern Conference Finals MVP (2022) - NBA All-Rookie First Team (2018) - 1,296 Threes Made - Youngest player with 1,000 career 3PM - 5 All-NBA Appearances - 5 ECF Appearances(and counting) - 2x Finals Appearance (and counting) - 1st player to score 51 in a Game 7 - Most 30-PT games in a season in franchise history - Scored the most points in an ASG - 1st Celtic to average 30+ PPG - 3rd in playoff points before turning 27 (needs 180 to pass LeBron in 1st) - 1st in playoff 3PM before turning 27 - The most wins since entering the league - The most playoff wins since entering the league Career stats 23.1 PPG | 7.2 RPG | 4.0 APG | 1.1 SPG |1 BPG | 2.3 TO | 46.0/37.5/84.4% | 58.3 TS | 11,852 Total Pts | 3,670 total Rebounds | 1812 total assists | 563 total STLS | 346 total blks | 1180 total TO | 513 GP Career playoff stats 38.7 MPG | 24 PPG | 8.0 RPG | 5.0 APG | 1.1 SPG | 1.0 BPG | 2.9 TO | 108 GP | 2574 total Pts | 845 total Reb | 505 total AST | 120 total STLS | 97 total blks | 305 total TO | 44.2/35.5/83.0% | 39 MPG 2022 ECF: W Tatum - 25/8/6 Butler 25/7/3 2022 ECSF: W Tatum drops 46/9/4 in a pivotal game 6, down 3-2 on the road vs Giannis and reigning champion bucks, goes on to win the series Jayson Tatum PPG per season: 2017-18: 13.9 2018-19: 15.7 2019-20: 26.4 2020-21: 26.9 2022-23: 30.1 2023-24: 27.0 Jayson Tatum career high's as a statline: 60 Points | 19 Rebounds | 12 Assists | 6 Blocks | 5 Steals Only player to score 50+ points in the: - Regular Season - All-Star Game - Play-In Tournament - Playoffs
Not to diminish Jalen Brown’s performance - also deserving of Finals MVP for several of Boston’s best individual moments of the Finals. But Tatum deserved MVP, and I am unhappy he didn’t win it. He anchored our team. He won us game 3. He was the best player on the court for either team in game 5. He averaged a triple double in Boston and was our leading scorer both games in Dallas.
@@yinkz15 Jalen had more high profile moments defensively, but he wasn’t better on defense. Jayson anchored the team defensively by forcing Dallas out of its lob game. This is what allowed Jalen’s defensive pressure to make a difference and lead to key turnovers. As for efficiency, yes Jalen was more efficient in the first 2 games especially. Jayson had a hand in that, too. But Brown was a no-show offensively for half of game 3. Had not Jayson carried the load to keep it close in the first half, we get blown out in game 3. In the dismal game 4, Tatum scored half our points in the first half. Nobody else did a thing. And Jayson was the best player on the court in game 5. Basically, the voters decided that Brown was MVP after game 2.
Co-MVPs would’ve been perfect because they basically split responsibilities. Jason Tatum took control the offense, taking the double teams and facilitating to his team, while Jalen Brown took control of the defense, guarding Luka Dončić the whole time.
Here's the criticism for Tatum. Win a chip without having the best supporting cast ever, from the entire starting 5, to your 7th best player in Hauser/Pritchard. Win finals MVP, outperform Brown, show that you are the best player on your own team. Period. Steph did it in 2022. Now it's his turn.
@@Godfrey-pn4qvnothing close to 2927 warriors. 2017 warriors was a 70 win team,let me say it again, a SEVENY WINS team that replaced harisson Barnes by kd. I will say it again,all they lost for kd, was LITERALLY the guy he replaced on the court harisson barnes. lol.
@@youngerudit2524 porzingas and jrue can equal value of kd when healthy or is prolky greater than that. AND THE 2017 WARRIORS WAS NOT A 70 WIN TEAM GENUIS LOL SMFH. Kd joined a 70 win team.
it's so odd how people forget what a wet blanket marcus smart was on those series that Tatum and Brown get accused of blowing. smart is the most anemic offensive player perhaps in league history and his defense is overrated. He never should've started and we're seeing now that on any other team in the league he's, at best, a 3rd string pg. He'd play hero ball way too often, finishing with 12-17 fga, he'd try to dribble and pass way too fancy for his skill level, he couldn't run an offense, and he'd insert himself into pivotal moments in games that should've belonged to Tatum and Brown. Do people really not remember this or did they just not watch those games?
Should have been Tatum. He also had impact on both ends of the floor, including facilitating way more, and had overall more impact than JB. Some media are acting as if it was only JB that had impact on both ends. Jrue benefitted from Tatum being on the floor, actually the whole team did when they were on the floor with him.
Could have went either way. I'm not upset JB won. He was great on both sides of the ball. I would have went with JT though. He had just as much impact if not more. The games he didn't score as much, he was a great facilitator and had a lot of assists. I would have liked to see co-MVPs. Because they compliment each other very well. That's why JB gave a shout-out to JT during the acceptance speech. He knew it could have gone either way. And I think JT would have shouted out JB if he had won.
4:37 i know JB was the primary defender, but Luka called for a screen every time. He did have impact, but Jrue was there, White was there, Al Horford was there too.
Exactly. Why do they have to mention JT every time they mention JB? Cmon now. Let that man shine on his own. If JT would have gotten it, he probably wouldn’t even be giving JB his props…
Think it's because they are not far off statistics wise? Team Game? They are a true, 2 leader-led team? Not a bad thing when you talk Brown, you talk Tatum and Vice-Versa.
I'll put it this way.. if Brown was the number 1 option on that team, dealing with double teams constantly, Celtics lose. Browns passing vision is awful compared to Tatums.
It’s also fair to mention the great basketball savant, Magic Johnson passed on Tatum because of Alonzo Ball was a local talent coming from UCLA. Tell the whole entire story SAS! Magic Johnson was the GM of the Lakers at that time.
Nobody cares bro, the good euros still come to this league to get the top dollar deals, sponsorships, and visibility globally. Nobody cares about what back water league anyone else is playing in until FIBA. Kids in Asia are more worried about the NBA than their own local leagues.
Our team is still fairly young with great playoff experience !!! Tillman and Hauser with a ring before Russ harden and Paul George !!!! Don’t forget the mvp Joel!!! So happy and proud of my Celtics we answered the call every time!!! They can’t say anything now !!!!! 🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀😭
You got it backwards. If Brown was the real number 1 guy, he would have gotten double teamed instead of Tatum. If Brown was the real number 1 guy, Celtics definitely don't win a championship.
Nope, the media that voted for Brown don't understand how to vote for MVP. They don't understand what an MVP is. Brown benefitted from Tatum being on the floor and not being the main focus of opposing teams' defense.
Just gotta congratulate them and stop bringing up the past let them enjoy this moment they really deserved this one man they been talked about for so many years and they stayed together and made it work now they raised the banner salute to them boys man they really beat the odds 🫡
@@staystrongwGodJesushe proved it by Tatum leading the team FOR THE WHOLE PLAYOFFS in points assists and rebounds while getting all the doubles?🤣 just say you heard people say it and since it sounded different you jumped on the wagon.
Our finals mvp is actually Tatum. Brown benefitted from the double teams Tatum had to deal with, and he acknowledged that himself post-game. If Brown was the number 1 guy, Celtics don't win.
@@orgen666 Type English. Using idiotic slang terms doesn't make you look cool. If Tatum took the finals off, none of his playmaking would be in effect, and they would lose. Brown isn't a number 1 guy, as we saw game 7 last year.
Go watch game 7 vs Miami last season if you think taking JB as your #1 would be a better choice. JT is so much better, it's not even close. Thats why he gets doubled way more than Brown.
I love how Shaq told Jaylen Brown to not let the critiques come between him and Jayson Tatum, because they could easily win another championship or two with the roster they have. They have to keep Jrue and Derrick White for their defense too. With those four they will always be competitive. The east is weak.
The fact that the headline is “Was Brown the right choice for finals MVP” Is very annoying. ESPN Stop being negative and appreciate everything that was presented. LETS GO CELTICS ☘️🏆. Thanks for shutting up all the miserable haters
Tatum led the team over the series in points, assists, and rebounds. Only player to do that in a Finals series and not win MVP. I think Brown playing better at key moments made him more memorable.
I’m a Die hard Lakers Fan but I can’t stand the Boston Celtics but Tatum and Brown are box office and Yes Brown deserve to be MVP🏆and I’m a huge Tatum fan
This is a real team where everyone worked together to win it all. Weather they were the starting 5,the second unit or the extra role players. They all work like a team. This is what everyone wants no selfishness’s but team players. Let’s Go Celtics !!! 🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀
