A reminder to check out a drum playthrough from Ghost Note Extrodinaire Vlad Ulasevich from Jinjer. I recommend starting with Colossus or Call Me A Symbol.
You should check out David Diepold - Aeon Sickness. Very technical and tight playing with super loose and relaxed technique. He usually uses swivel technique for double bass, and he plays blast beats and mid-tempo double bass groves with just one foot using the swivel technique. Dude is an absolute machine!
come to think about it, technical death metal and jazz have a lot more in common than either side's fans would dare to admit. on the technical death metal side, the more you randomly spanner in 7th chords, tritone intervals and then try to pair them with something different on 12-tone scale, you get a somewhat jazzy effect. on the jazz side, the more you pack in small ghost fills, polyrhythms, and crank up the 4-limb coordination, you get a level of technicality that in metal is only matched by technical death metal,
John uses two remote hi-hats with the pedals directly on either side of his left kick. When he is blasting and closing the hats, he straddles his left foot on both the kick and hi-hat pedal. His technique of doubles on the feet doesn't incorporate the heel at all, just the rocking movement. He comes down with the ball of his foot which acts as the "heel", and the upward motion is lifting the leg and pressing with the toes to get the second hit.
i remember having the pleasure of opening for Origin once, we all attended John's drum check. as soon as he started kicking, we began cheering, this man is insane on the kit
He's an OG of the VERY fast tech death drummers. He also gives Origin a whole lot of swing which is very different for the genre. He feels behind the beat while playing at >9000 mph. The whole band are insane musicians.
Jon closes the hi-hats 2 different ways during a blast beat. 1. he just single foot blasts the 8th notes on his dominant foot the right and closes the hat with his left foot. 2. he plays the left kick with his toe and whatever hat he is closing with this heel. Jon's not perfect he will fuck this up live sometimes. Also he is credited with the creating the gravity blast even though Jazz heads have been doing it for ages. But as far as death metal goes he is the first on record with Origin's 1999 self titled album. If you like his grooves check out his first band Angelcorpse. He's been a force to be reckoned with for almost 30 years now. Jon's father was a Jazz drummer also so it runs in his blood. He's been playing all his life and is one of the nicest and most respectable guys in death metal you'll ever meet. Always a pleasure to talk to Mr.Longstreth. When he's not playing a million notes a minute you can catch him giving lessons and playing jazz in NYC. Jon's gone through many iterations of playing throughout the years. He used to play with a heels down technique that allowed him to play just as fast single notes. But if you ask me his hands are the most impressive. He can hold a single stroke roll indefinitely on a pad, pillow or snare. It's probably 16th notes in the 300BPM+ range. How he's done it for so many years without serious injury is the real question.
Tasteful choice of music and animation for the intro 👌 What a monster of a drummer this guy is. All the members of Origin are pretty insane in technique.
Yes! Thank you for doing this reaction! Longstreth is the absolute peak of extreme metal drumming. Dude has been incredible since the 90s and just keeps working at it and pushing the boundaries of what's possible. The way he can play with such precision while staying soo fluid/loose is something any drummer can aspire to, regardless of skill level or playing genre. Plus he's a super nice guy to boot!
Thank you so much for listening to this absolute beast of a song! I’m not a drummer but I wish I was and I’ve listened to this song at least a thousand times and you pointed out things I never noticed before
I remember when they released their debut in 2000 and I got a promo of it, I was in awe and nonplussed at the same time. That drumming was insane! Been a fan ever since. I send you that list of "some" names a few weeks back, feel free to pick a name. I know I forgot / missed some great ones, but there's plenty, I think 😊
What I love about John is, as you said in the video, that he plays that crazy stuff with groove and personality. I recommended Lord Marco to you a couple times, he's in this wheelhouse in terms of speed. Watch him play "Incomprehensibly Evolved" by Sonivinos, he does some really cool stuff in that one.
Done I’m gonna do it for sure and ya John is inhuman but also his groove is so on point. Without that he’s still amazing but that takes him to god status is my books. 🤘🤘🤘
New to this channel, but I’d really love to see you react to Lille Gruber of Defeated Sanity! He brings a very jazzy feel/approach to metal drumming and it’s absolutely mind bending. Easily some of the best drumming I’ve ever heard.
You should check out David Diepold - Aeon Sickness. Very technical and tight playing with super loose and relaxed technique. He usually uses swivel technique for double bass, and he plays blast beats and mid-tempo double bass groves with just one foot using the swivel technique. Dude is an absolute machine!
Dude…. This sounds right up my alley, I think I wanna check him out next. I probably will. Thanks so much for the suggestion. Swivel technique is close to my heart cuz it seems to work the best for me and also Eloy uses it and he’s one of my favourite metal drummers.
First Fragment- Le Serment de Tsion By Samuel Santiago i think he was bridging the second hi hat with his left foot on a smaller pedal next to the Axis pedals. weaving his foot between pedals on opposite strokes.
Try George Kollias (from Nile) playing Shall Rise Shall Be Dead, George is one of the fastest extreme metal drummers that is strictly single-stroke double bass. He has incredible groove too, but he's always my go-to for extreme metal drumming with amazing technique.
Jesus. Right. Just to attempt to play this one song could be a life long journey for most people. With all the endurance, coordination, speed and groove challenges throughout. Great time to be alive, we get to witness these insane monsters.
Check out Kenny Grohowski of Imperial Triumphant. Jazzy Black Metal. Baard Kolstad of Leprous is always a fun reaction. Same with Aric Improta of Night Verses.
John is unreal. Master of his craft is an understatement. Check Sebastian Lanser - Diluvium (or An Epilogue to Infinity), one of the tastiest drummers out there with a strong jazz background
Totally, one of the absolute best I’ve come across for this genre. And ya totally I’ve had a lot of recommendation for him, gonna do a reaction sometime soon!
Two guys to check out would be Lille Gruber from Defeated Sanity and Mike Heller from Malignancy. Both guys have tons of jazz chops applied in a brutal death metal context. Hearing Lille shred quintuplets in a death metal band is a trip.
Another great vid! Was hoping you'd hit this one! Longstreth really is in a class of his own... he's been playing at this level since before I first heard him over 20 years ago. Think about that: 20+ YEARS of doing this. Truly a generational talent. Some other videos that you might find interesting (listing by name of the video title for easy look-up): * "Nithing - Of Those Immortal, Longing for Decease Playthrough": Matt Kilner plays all the instruments in Nithing (guitar, bass, drums) and totally kills it. It's fast as hell and very discordant, but weirdly catchy too. Definitely worth a look (especially if you have a guitar-playing friend to sit in with you!). * "Kevin Paradis - Benighted - Nails - Exclusive Drum Play-through": Paradis (Benighted) and Spencer Prewitt (Archspire) seem to have a friendly rivalry going to see who can play faster and better. a rivalry we all benefit from lol. This vid is a solid look at his chops. *"Brodequin - Of Pillars and Trees Drum Tracking": No-nonsense, no-frills vid of Drummer Brennan Shackelford one-taking this awesome song. It's actually a tossup to me to rec this song or "Brodequin - Diabolical Edict Drum Tracking", bc Pillars and Trees drags a bit in the middle for my taste, but I went with Pillars and Trees because overall it is the better song imo. Can't really go wrong with either one (and you get the Allan Holdsworh shirt regardless lol) *"Necrophagist Drumming": So this one is pretty much classic rock at this point; it's Necrophagist's "new" drummer playing some tracks from the Epitaph album... in 2008 lol. It's the closest I could find to a clean clip of him playing, but (un)fortunately the video is spliced together clips of several songs. Still really impressive though. The dude is GOOD lol
Dude I cannot believe he’s been doing this for that long, that is literally crazy. Thank u so much for these suggestions, you can be sure I’ll react to one or more of these in the near future. Thank u!!
@@yarpyarp85the wildest part is ALL origin's songs are like this, so he's playing at roughly this speed for 30-45 minutes or longer during a set. It's amazing and also a bit maddening if you're a drummer watching it 😂 Also would love to see you react to one of my recs! Of the group, the Paradis/Benighted video is from probably the most known and active band, so it would hopefully score the most views/likes (just conjecture on my part... Idk how these things work lol). Nithing seems to be up and coming but is still kinda niche even by metal standards and would be the most likely to get a genuine WTF reaction from you lol. Brodequin has been around forever but just recorded their first new album in 20 years and has been landing on a few "best extreme metal albums of 2024" lists, so while a little lesser known, they're still top-notch musicians and the vids I recommended are relatively fresh (i.e. Content released in the past 6 months or so, not 6 years ago lol).
More of my favorites to check out that I didn't mention in the comments last vid: Matt Greiner - Composure Danny Carey - Pneuma Aric Improta - Copper Wasp (or his drum competition solo) Luke Holland - Tendinitis Nils Fjellström - Vobiscum Satanas Dope stuff. Hope to see you learn some more of this stuff in the same way you put in work to learn other parts for metal bands. 👍
Dude thank u for this and ya I’m definitely gonna learn a bunch of metal over the next couple of years, couple more months on bleed and I’ll upload a playthrough of that. 😉😉🤘🤘🤘
Machine!!! Yes he's using heel toe doubles, the rim blast is usually called gravity blast. His left foot controls both hi-hats, you can see 3 pedals there, I think he just presses both kick drum pedal and hi-hat pedal at once :D Check out Spencer Moore or Kevin Paradis :D
he is muting the cable hi-hat by switching to single foot blast and tapping the hi-hat pedal while keeping it tight, the switch is just so fluid you wouldn't be able to know without having it seen live from backstage yourself or have a foot cam throughout the whole video^^ he is also actually playing the single foot blasts without heel- toe technique so not even double strokes for that but again you would have to have seen it live to know that not sure if there is a interview or video of him where he explains or shows it
Not always. Yes, he does single foot blast, but when he does the blast plus hihat muting, he is sliding his left foot onto both pedals and playing kick aswell as closing the hihat at the same time. you can see that the hihat is closing every other kick at those parts.
Dude I would give anything to see that becUse I kind of get the idea but the technique must be so refined. I wanna see exactly how he’s switching the foot and they don’t show it at all in the video. I feel like he must be half on both pedals or something and ya the heel toe stuff is so hard. I’ve been trying to figure it out and it’s been rough going. Lol
@@buwumet yeah i saw that too, iam just basically re-telling what i saw when i got to see him play live while being next to the stage quite a few times, that's how he usually plays those parts. it's quite some time ago now tho, so maybe he switched up how he does it over the years now to what you can see for a little bit in the video here^^
Correction on the spelling of the song David Diepold does: Hymns. You should also look at his cover of Cattle Decapitation 's song: Dead set on Suicide. That an older video, but it's really good! He's even covered some stuff by the band Origin, as well. He's really talented. Enjoy! 👍
I'm glad you enjoyed more Jon Longstreth! I would say you've already seen similar when you first started reacting to the more extreme death metal drummers and when I first found your RU-vid page when you reacted to Flo Mounier and Spencer Prewett. I think now that you've become more accustomed to the style you see even more of the little details that make all three of those drummers truly world class and genre defining. Flo was actually an inspiration to both Spencer and Jon, so hopefully you look at more of his discography to see how he was pushing techniques like gravity blasts (Flo, like you, originally called them "rim shots" as he picked up the idea from jazz techniques back in the early 2000's as an experiment to hit higher BPMs!) If I recall correctly, Jon is actually considered the one who created the term "gravity blast" to describe that beat and technique. As for how Jon is muting the high hat while keeping the steady, fast beat on the bass drum; he's actually doing all the bass beats with a single foot doing double strokes and uses his left foot to hit the hi hat pedal. You can see him do it in the video at the very end when he's talking about what cymbals he's using via the top down shot of him playing in the background. I'm glad you're enjoying and appreciating the technique and ability of these extreme metal drummers and I hope all is well!
Dude so true and are u saying that Flo created the gravity blast? That would be so sick! I also remember a none metal drummer doing a lot with it, his name was Johnny rabb and I think he called it “the free hand technique” crazy that is a through back to some jazz stuff. Truly am having a blast learning and checking out all this stuff, who knows maybe one day I’ll be considered a metal drummer lololol 💪💪💪
@@yarpyarp85 Flo and Jon both were experimenting with rim shots around the same time (early 2000's.) If there were other drummers doing it in metal, neither of them knew about it, but both adapted it from the rim shot jazz technique. Jon is mostly credited with calling it a "gravity blast", although I believe it the guitarist from Origin who originally came up with the phrase upon seeing Jon do it in their jam space, and Jon thought it sounded cool, so he also started calling it a "gravity blast." Jon used the term in a few interviews back then and it caught on in common parlance in the metal scene. There were a few grind bands back then that used drum machines to achieve the same tempo/sound, so I'm not sure if either of them heard the grind bands doing it artificially and wanted to see if they could replicate it on an acoustic kit or if it was purely from their jazz background. I do remember Flo telling me and the drummer from the band I was in at the time that he's was adapting rim shots to try to hit higher BPMs back in the early 2000's (2003 or 2004 IIRC) and showing us how he was working on it on Jay's kit at the time. Both of us were blown away! Some credit Flo with inventing it, but the first recorded album that Flo did it on was "Once Was Not" in 2005, but he was shedding it earlier and touring with Origin at that time if I recall correctly. They both were working on it concurrently and both knew of the technique from their jazz background.
@@yarpyarp85 Oh, by the way, Jon and the Drummers from Hell PL RU-vid channel just released a new live, drum cam video of Jon playing "Disease Called Man" on their channel about half a week ago. (It's the same RU-vid channel that has the Darkside live video you reacted to somewhat recently.) I just found out about it today, but it has constant footage of his feet and he does play the hi hat while doing double kick simultaneously in that song quite a bit. At least in that song, he's hitting both pedals simultaneously with his left foot so that he can both close the hi hat and hit the bass drum at the same time, then just slides his foot back to the bass drum only. They even offer a full screen, close-up shot of that technique in action, so if that is something you want to see, it's available for your consumption! It's a short song too, under two and a half minutes, so not much of a time investment. I'm not sure if he's using the same technique in Saligia or if he is just doing double strokes really fast with one foot while hitting the hi hat. I know at different times he's used both techniques for a similar results; I would assume it would have to do with if he wants the hi hat accent in time with the bass drum or if he wants it on a different beat determining how he performs it.
If you want to go back a bit on the speed and up the ante on the "where is one?" listen to physical education by Matt gartska (a drum playthrough just released by Meinl) it's incredible
If you haven't heard of him Josh Dion from the duo Paris Monster is a very unique drummer considering he plays drums, sings AND plays keys all at the same time.
The hi-hat part that you got confused about, he has a normal hi-hat on the left side of the left bass drum pedal and another on the right side, you can see the remote hi-hat pedal just to the right of his left bass drum pedal. He plays the bass drum pedal along with the hi-hat pedal to close it while making the blast beats.
@@yarpyarp85 This old video of him has a camera that shows the pedals: /watch?v=53paoi4wSD0 But he wasn't using the remote pedal yet, but you can get an idea of what he does. The only difference is that he uses the normal hi-hat pedal.
Another grat Video my friend. If you like this fast stuff then you have to listen to Pete Sandoval (ex Morbid Angel), or the Drummer of Dying Fetus or Nile wich I dosn't know their name yet and I'm to tierd to google it. And another bastarddrummer is the drummer from Behemoth. Would be cool to see you reacting to them. Or to a absolut legend named Dave Lombardo former Slayer drummer. Cheers from Switzerland
Thanks so much dude! I really appreciate that and I know Dave Lombardo really well. I loved slayer when I was a kid! Also I’ll absolutely check out those other guys and do a reaction. 🤘🤘🤘🤘🥁🥁🥁
@@yarpyarp85 i love how this it just a light morning stroll for him. makes me REALLY want those demon drive xrs. but my wallet doesn't accept $1,300 for a double pedal
You can watch this at 25 percent speed and still be flabbergasted. But yeah, the first song you did had its own quality with all the tasty groove and tightness.
@@yarpyarp85 I'm also pretty sure it's not cheating in the reaction genre when you occasionally rewind and play a segment of the video slowly in order to unpack a closer hint of what's been just done. Could be actually fun if you did that every once in a while.
0:57 mom, i'm on tv! glad you finally checked out the "proper" one. concerning the hi hat muting; as you noted, he has two hi hat pedals, one as usual to the left of his left kick pedal, one cable hat to the right of the same pedal. He can then keep a two footed 8th note pulse on the kick going, and by putting his left foot half across the kick pedal and either of the remote hi hat pedals, choke both hats individually. Also, again: one take, no quantization. You were absolutely right to call this the most insane metal drumming haha
Aaaahhh ya man that makes more sense now, as people explain it to me I’m getting the idea. Still I’d love to see a foot cam for the whole video. And ya this is quite possibly the most insane drumming I’ve ever seen. So glad I finally watched it! 🤘🤘
Also - you definitely need to check out Ken Bedene from Aborted. Terrorvision live (the Czarcie Kopyto version is phenomenal). That guy…just unreal drumming, his blast and swivel technique is just textbook perfect.
I don't have a clue about playing drums, but I watch drum cams passionately. I am very impressed by Kevin Paradis with Ne Obliviscaris in the piece Equus. My recommendation
I love that there are people out there that don’t play this instrument but still watch it with the vigour or a drummer, that’s awesome! Thanks so much for the recommendation my friend I’ll add him to the list!
personally, I prefer the live version of this song or the one with staring followed by... uh... I think Aftermath? but this one is also flippant. hands of a surgeon. under another video I commented if this is still science and another dude that its black magic and it was very apt the first time I saw him playing those blasts for like 6 plus minutes and was like.... that cant be real.
Holy shit dude this is insane! Makes me wanna try and learn some death metal….. but that would be a stretch, first o gotta figure this heel toe technique 😂😂
@@yarpyarp85 Thank man, I appreciate! But Mr Longstreth is the champion, you don't need to aim that high. You can do great death metal at moderate tempo and it can be amazing. I recommend you give it a go.
Thanks for share this 🤘 John is my number one. I am not sure if you have checked Adam Jarvis or Flo Mournier from death metal genre. They are fast and use more power than needed. They deserve more attention. Older ones you need to check Gene "Atomic clock" Hoglan and Pete "commando" Sandoval. They are real pioneers.
Thanks so much dude and I gotta agree the guy is amazing! I’m actually gonna do a Pete Sandoval reaction soon and I’ve already done one for Gene and Flo. 💪💪💪 thanks for watching ehhh
DAVID LIEPOLD. endstop. Okay. Maybe we should extend the list: George Kollias (his stuff in Nile). Derek Roddy. Gene Hoglan. Sean Reinert. Aaron Kitcher. Florent Mounier. Tony Laureano.
Hello, really enjoyed your reaction to the video. I just subscribed. This is the first video I've watched of yours. John is a killer. I really enjoy watching his stuff. So, you asked for suggestions. Check out, if you haven't already, David Diepold. You can start, if you want, with the song: Hyms. I think that's what it's called. I'll come back and correct if not. Also, Anthony Berone. I think his playthroughs of Shadow of Intent really showcases his talent very well. I hope you enjoy. I'll go see which video of Anthony's that I wanted to suggest and come back... Ok, it's Anthony Berone; "Underneath a Sullen Moon." By: Shadow of Intent
This is not even John at his grooviest. I know, kinda funny after that intro. This is groovy John ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-4QBFjAhb3JY.html (or any song from that album) . Shame there are no live videos of him playing with Dim Mak.
Oh I’ll check this out for sure cuz I get the feeling this guy can play simple with amazing feel cuz his blasts even have feel and groove. Thanks for watching eh!
@@yarpyarp85 Thats exactly why John is so much fun. Not just technique, speed, endurance, but he can have fun too. Even improvise a bit. Like when he plays Saligia live, believe it or not :D.
If it's groove with tech death insanity, check out Navene Koperweis - The Sinking Sun drum play through from Entheos. Besides being an incredible drummer, he also writes and plays all the guitar as well. Sick! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-J8SNuR8Tb4g.html And as others have mentioned, Aric Improta - any of the Night Verses songs on the Meinl channel or his playthroughs on his, will leave you in awe.
He might be a George Kollias clone and do insane one foot "double" bass while muting :D ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-EMLJZVk7Abo.html - pay attention 4 min mark when he wants to swap a stick and 6 min mark for single foot "double bass"
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-taFQUbhpuWA.htmlsi=luOdVUczsWDdJ3-w Here, 20 years ago, in the begging of Perversion Of Hate, was doing it with his old feet technic (heel down) with both hats.
I’d say as far as a speed and power stand point none. But the thing u wanna check out is a lot of jazz drummers abilities to be chameleons (to name one skill) lots of us can play multiple styles like jazz, samba, Afro Cuban, bossa nova, reggae, second line, funk, rock, and some of us even metal. Also another skill would be the ability to play fast and quiet (insanely hard but super valuable.) Reading would be another skill and lastly I’d say improvising, the best among us can play with any other jazz musician without rehearsing and create an amazing set of music. I know u asked for a specific song but each players breadth of artistic statements on the instrument is more the goal. Hope that helps. Also u could check out some players like Antonio Sanchez, Noah Furbringer, mark guiliana, bill stewart or even a young phonon named JD beck. ☺️☺️☺️♥️
@@yarpyarp85 my only issue with jazz is timbre. same with classical. i hate the sound of regular instruments. i teach theory/guitar and have studied jazz for years, i know all about all the interesting harmonic concepts and melodies and rhythms. i was mostly interested in those things for the purpose of one day scoring video game music. but for pure enjoyment, no matter how interesting the harmonies and melodies and rhythms are, if theyre played by regular instruments, i hate it. the only sound that makes me feel alive is insanely overwhelming drums and heavily distorted guitar, regardless of whats being played, and deep gutteral gurgly growls and black metal rasps. jazz is interesting of course but lacks balls
