Besides modern instruments lacking that warm tube sounds it also has to do with most synthesizer “players“ today having less playing skills than that guy in 1960.
today sampling and synthesis are light years ahead of ondioline....except for a thing, REALTIME EXPRESSION (VIBRATO AND VOLUME). what sets special ondioline or ondes martenot is the realtime capability to change pitch (vibrato) or volume with gestures, ondes has ruban, sliding keys and touch of intensity, ondioline has sliding keys for vibrato and knee lever for volume. in almost every analogue or digital synth the vibrato is done by LFO controlled by modulation wheel or pedal or aftertouch, but the oscillator controls the speed and nature of vibrato, whereas in those ancient electronic instruments YOUR FINGER controls the amount AND speed of vibrato, sliding every key left and right, more complex compared with modern sensor keys BUT similar to an acoustic instrument. why all modern stuff hasn't those old tehcnologies? because instruments in the past were done for PERFORMERS working in orchestra or ensambles, todays most of people buying synths are dj or electronic music producers, not real performers. Mastering a good natural vibrato technique on the ondioline, ondes martenot or trautonium takes years of pratice, whereas doing the same with an LFO takes some hours of understanding how it works. In a nutshell, ondioline per se isn't more realistic than a modern super digital synth, but has means to be expressive like a real instrument, so to ears it sounds vivid and musical like real acoustic instruments.
is he dialing in additive harmonics or something? I'm trying to understand it. My understanding is that the keybed moves side to side for pitch bend? I think a lot of the quality comes from his skill.
Maybe. I hate calling anyone a genius but he had great knowledge in music BACK THEN. Which is impressive because most knowledge had to come from books or other people
And the Musicians' Union gatekeepers all shat bricks in unison, no doubt. ;) I didn't know the Ondioline was THAT versatile! Now I'm gonna have to re-listen to all my JJP records to try and spot it...
L'Ondioline est vraiment l'ancêtre du synthétiseur actuel. C'est comme incroyable le nombre d'instrument qu'il est capable de reproduire alors qu'il a été crée à la veille de la guerre 39-45
Cool. I didn't know jean-jacques was also the co-inventor of the Ondioline. At the end does he say 'soon to be found in Phil Collins living room'? That I'd like to see! I'm sure if Phil Collins had an Ondioline we would have been spared 'another day in paradise'.
I'm 10 years late but he wasn't a co-inventor. he called into a radio show where the Ondioline was being played on and told the inventor that he just had to have one but he was broke and the inventor (forget the name) offered him a job to showcase it on shows like this. I think he tells this story on his autobiography on his website
Oh, you kids today! He said BILL Collins. This reminds me of a young guy that I work with, who keeps trying to tell me that modern music began with Sir MixaLot (!) Oh, and no, JJ didn't co-invent the Ondioline. That's something the media people insisted he go along with, back in the day....before Sir MixaLot.
The link between the french Genius Jean Jacques Perrey and Latinoamerican people was .. CHESPIRITO (Mexican comedian creator and performer of "El Chavo del 8", "El Chapulín Colorado")
Yes, he does, but it's not working currently. I have two -- one KIND of works, and the other is still in the shop. As soon as I get it back, I plan to sample it IMMEDIATELY, before it breaks again.... -dc
This is an entirely manual instrument that must be tuned and played expertly (working the warbles and such in real time) to sound like real instruments. There are modern videos of people playing this instrument on RU-vid, and it sounds like a cheap Casio toy synth from the 1980s because they aren't doing all of the extra stuff needed to make it sound good while playing it. I thought at first that this was using endless loop recorded samples to make the sounds, but it's really a basic analog synth that requires an expert playing it to make it sound the way it does in this video.
Also there's every chance that what came out the other end of mass production wasn't quite the same as what's being played here. Don't get me wrong, that thing still wouldn't sound that way in the hands of most people, but I bet the mass produced version was nothing like this.
This is weird. Modern synths are really good at making electronic sounds, but this really old thing is really good at making acoustic sounds. Why is this?
In those performances, Jean-Jacques was the happiest man in the world since he could have the interest of the audience, amaze them and make them laugh all at the same time. Great Jean-Jacques and Jenny the developer of such a magnificent instrument.
Mr. Happymoogman, you are Mr. Countryman? Thank you for the video, the wonderful album, the incredible studio (I've only seen photos) and for the great live show (Triple Door, Seattle) at which I met both you and Mr. Perrey, one of the only people on my "wish to meet before I or they pass away" list that I've actually met.
I’m sorry that I never saw this message 9 years ago. Thanks for all the nice comments! It was an honor to work with JJP. The experience changed my life. Take care, Dana Countryman
Es la técnica de interpretación. El teclado era sensible al movimiento de vibración para impartir vibrato, y además la digitación de Perrey era capaz de producir la articulación adecuada de cada nota para parecerse más al instrumento imitado.
@mootbooxle The first JJPerrey record (records?) were almost entirely Ondioline, I think that's "The In Sound From Way Out"? It wasn't until after that that the Moog synth became his thing, though I'm certain the Ondioline was still used.
On savait encore s'émerveiller des sonorités électroniques ! Aujourd'hui, le snobisme bobo veut de l'acoustique, de l'acoustique et encore de l'acoustique. Unplugged sucks.
DEPENDS, MY FRIEND, IT ALL DEPENDS, HERE'S TO FURTHER YOUR ANSWER: The period 2700-2300 BC saw the first appearance of the Sumerian abacus (a basic analog computer), a table of successive columns which delimited the successive orders of magnitude of their sexagesimal number system.
