jeanrose control/stall is fun | vs collei quicken (genshin TCG PvP)

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8SBs' double anemo guide: www.hoyolab.co... -- pause if necessary at beginning, i made it too short my b
also this is a long vid compared to my previous ones, feel free to skim, but the nature of dbl anemo is long rounds so any vids with these 2 will be longer
if you're looking for deck resources, i suggest StupidIdiots document: docs.google.co...
if you're looking for competitive matches, tournaments, or people near your skill-level and region to duel: / discord TCG discord server, decklists and matches are easily findable here
this deck is VERY fun and feels very pilot-dependant and tests your match-up knowledge. going 1st/2nd actually has an impact and so does the starting character you choose - it feels a lot deeper than ayamiya honestly lmao
anyways this game definitely could've gone either way, and personally i think i didn't do as good of a job of showing how annoying the constant swirls can be. in this match up i was VERY respectful of quicken. i honestly think at the start of the round i should've just committed to starting with XL and get guoba out - by starting sucrose and committing to keeping collei out i really made myself stuck in a swirl-less anemo fight for a long time. but it worked out. XL i think is very tricky to use with this comp, mona is definitely the easiest and has the benefit of quickswap as a passive - i would strongly recommend mona. but i have had good success with XL, it's really a matter of deciding do i start with XL or jean/rose... anyways i put a little more effort into this video to have some basic guide
music is all umineko OST
sucrose is left.... jean is right..... jeanrose sounds like cornrows to me and i think its a goofy team name. also im gonna stop counting my title numbers, these vids r sort of just for fun tbh, i appreciate the attention and subs but I'm not a dedicated genshin TCG content creator or anything -- this doesn't mean i wont upload genshin TCG stuff, just that i may have time of not uploading anything etc

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@Aquileya Год назад

I can't imagine how frustrating it must've been to be on the other side of this 💀

@Romashka_Sov Год назад

Now that you know the trick with Sucrose swaps to left and Jean to right, you know how to counter this deck though. Opp switched to Keqing too late ⚰️

@ЕгорСопожников Год назад

Literally i don't like opponents deck in terms of cards. I don't like library for dices. You need freaking fast energy cap and drawing and dicelimit. I literally play full energy and have the ability to ult collei and raven of fischl)... With nice consistency. It is just the idea of electro freaking early energycup to use penetration ults. And in this term superconduct sounds better for me. Maybe i don't understand something.

@ЕгорСопожников Год назад

Literally i just play gan yuin instead of collei for superconduct)). I use all electroresonans(4 cards), li youe *2, coco *2, tounge *2, mona*2, li sin*2, rozaria *2, noelle *2, crown of outranger *2 (that gives energy to other pieces after ult), 2 chans, 2 parametic transmutators, 2 paimons, 1 paimon companion, 2 liben, 1 Catherine. No weapons, cause your aim is to charge all ults, and it is antitemp. It turns out, that there is rather high propability to play ult + raven within 2 turns. And it is kinda working)). Of course, it counters by hu tao topdeck, but life is not so simple.

@alexislcorona17 Год назад

i played against this deck and got them down to jean but i just couldn't finish them off. just heal after heal, get them down to 3 and they rise to 7.

@ЕгорСопожников Год назад

Well, decided to update a bit. I declined parametric transmutators, cause they are a little bad working, i put 2 adeptus food instead, just because it is a good damage for ult deck and buffing 3 damage for 2 dices is efficient, cause literally skills damage as a count of dices without buffs. Also declined 1 li sin and played second paimonhelper. It is more durable. Literally, it is impossible to play 2 li sins in match for some reasons. Also it is really bad combo with crown, because of that i had stupid missplays. And instead of 1 noelle i put klee: well, after crown it may go nice for faster, cause there is 1 energy after crown activation actually. Literally, i think adeptus food is underrated. And when you play from food, it is obviously good. Well, instead of 1 rozaria i use 1 itto, just for comeback. This is more balanced and strong version. More consistent, and there are some outs after hutao (send of).

@kniceperson Год назад

17:48 Omg they probably hate the fact that they only got Katheryne now, after Collei died

@vystaria Год назад

this game went to round 9 lmaoo, I've heard round 14 is the limit and the game auto-ties you im pretty sure we were both close to running out of cards - its really funny going from ayamiya (killing round 3 99% of the time) to jeanrose (round 7+) 2 completely different playstyles but i love em -- me using parametric comes from ayamiya tbh. i don't think its bad in this deck, but its a bit harder to use which is why i recommend paimon

@cryindespair8005 Год назад

i've got to round 14 but then i died or had to kill an opponent :c so game didn't tie me

@ЕгорСопожников Год назад

I don't know why, but i want to play hyperactive anemorezonans with kaya... But i began to play on monday, so i don't have 5 level, and i haven't got jean))...

@TheSmooxer Год назад

why is barbara not one of the best flex picks? I feel like her ability to heal as she applies hydro is pretty good and synergizes with the deck

@vystaria Год назад

@@TheSmooxer you can try barbara! the units i listed arent the "best", they're the most "common" that i see used, but you're free to try any unit as the flex, as you can see i used xiangling

@ЕгорСопожников Год назад

@@TheSmooxer actually, this deck is not very good against anything, if not delay something on 1st/seput delay on second. Cause there are a lot of troubles i had. If you are not swirling - you lose, cause you are not reacting, when opponent does. and if you want to swirl, you need either quick swap, either 1st turn to end round first, cause if it is not - opponent makes signatureburst next turn, and we are in trouble. Also you either need good dices, so you either need consistency cards, either quickswaps. And also you need food and aquilla to stall. And only mona can cheap your quickswaps... And still LITM can just ruin all plans, and chance to get exact doublepicked card in 1st turn is 0.45. So people can find LITM and play signature setup ult... There are rainbows, that have no priority in order of attaking, so you are not delaying everything, and delaying 1 hyperbloom and receiving electrocharge in face... Not so good. So deck has a lot of problems, and underwater stones if not playing mona at least. With mona - there is lack of damage problems and swap to mona is also an action)))) If to disrupt, mona freeze is best. I know at least 2: mona jean keya and mona XC ganyu.

@Trash-kun69 Год назад

It was fun to watch, reminds me I always prioritize running quick change cards, like Noelle and Katheryne

@KamenNepper Год назад

so this deck's additional wincon is annoying your opponent enough to the point that they ragequit right? nice graphic at the start too lol. maybe try powerpoint it's definitely 10 times less frustrating to use

@lordpaulphilippfernandez9904 Год назад

Basically every floodgate heavy deck in YuGiOh (Mystic Mine PTSD)

@KamenNepper Год назад

@@lordpaulphilippfernandez9904 normal summon robina, normal summon empen, normal summon barrier statue-

@MARUSHI-YT Год назад

can confirm, one opponent flat out surrendered on me, tired from jean and sucrose tossing em around. i laughed so hard when that happened

@nyuuh Год назад

This is literally fun to watch, hahahaha very nice for people who wants to combo, even in a quicken simple combo. Nice job!!! Great game

@amirul3233 Год назад

I think if the opponent know how Jean's and Sucrose's skills work, they have high chance to counter you annoyingly swapping their active characters 😂

@jaguh9069 Год назад

It feels good when you know exactly what they are going for and effectively stops their momentum. I once fought off Ayamiya deck and kill off Yoimiya in turn one because I was lucky getting adeptus at the start lol

@renvega9515 Год назад

Good game. This was the best match ive seen so far. Tbh. Almost all the genshin tcg on youtube, they won either luck for draw or dice, or bad luck for opponent's and missplays. And they call it best strategy and deck. Its not. Imo, you can only tell its best deck if you have fought a strong enemy with their luck and 0 to few misplays and done the same. I have almost similar deck tho. Its overload team kind of slower than double anemo but its fast charge burst and able to deal dmg and disrupt their play.

@vystaria Год назад

16:18 was a bad misplay but worked out because i was going first If I forced a swap, they would have to choose between swapping back to fischl and be unable to play cathedral (he has 2 dice), or stay on keqing and play, however if they stayed on keq and cathedrald, keq would be at 4 hp (+4 double cathedral, but -2 guoba and they had 2 hp) and have Pyro on her, despite if I were to go 2nd, they'd be in a position where if he stays on keq, i will ele skill & put keq to 1 hp and swirl Pyro, so fischl now has Pyro and a swirl on fischl will kill keq but in the end it works out because similar happens because I went first after the guoba hit, but I think another gale blade instead of going first would've been safer

@yukiowatanabe9232 Год назад

I used a kinda similar strategy with overload with Xiangling, Fischl and Jean to swap, it's kinda fun team This team you used seems more consistent

@squidonglitter2320 Год назад

Ah yes. Another stall, long game deck I want to try. Love the deck! I don’t know how many people enjoy the slow pace game but I enjoy the challenge and rewarding when it all works out in your favour. Though the mental exhaustion by the end of it all 😵‍💫

@olyabutorina6869 Год назад

Don't put much hope at this deck, I ended my opponent who had Jeancrose team really fast and didn't even lost any character

@youravghuman5231 Год назад

Does they don't have fast action swap card? They just switch to collei only to tank the gale blade lmao

@drachenhexer Год назад

Glad I'm not the only one to think of double swirl. I probably would play Mona or Barbara instead. As catalyst users both have cheaper first elemental application. Mona obviously can swap out faster and Barbara can potentially infuse herself with hydro in order to get rid of other elements, if you are scared of reactions like quicken in this match. This can go either way however, so only in combination with Katheryne I guess

@ihrmoos_ Год назад

That looked so smart 😭 I'm still trying to figure out how to play/what decks to use and sometimes I do dumb things lmao, but I would love to try something with jean and kaeya (I'm very biased), can't wait to unlock cyno tho xD

@BattleBlaze128 Год назад

no fricking way no wonder when i was playing against jean my characters were being switched i actually thought my phone was bugging or something

@tabooization123 Год назад

I'm also trying to get my Jean Sucrose deck to work, I will take this as a reference. thanks

@funderscoretoast3220 Год назад

I've been thinking about doing stupid crap like this just so people can't use their moves, but people have figured out that elemental infused normal attacks are really really strong so this might be the alternative

@fxer68 Год назад

what a play! although ur lucky the enemy didn't bring any noelle card, which I think would be the counter because it would enable them to proc quicken

@ricktam2841 Год назад

Bro they brought Katherine but his luck is so good that the opponent never got it

@UchihaG Год назад

umineko OST made this video a lot more enjoyable

@vystaria Год назад

based one winged eagle name and icon, umineko da best

@GhostEmblem Год назад

Dendro is gonna be so good when ppl get access to terrorshroom chicken. Collei decks always catch me offguard with how much dendro they do especially oz I always forget hes affected by quicken.

@dradhypexd1930 Год назад

ngl if you want a good element applier use fischl coz she has three instances of element application (initial skill casting and two end phases) kenki is better with his cryo and anemo summons being able to apply two standby characters with cryo (btw use cryo first and anemo) so kenki is better but you didn’t have kenki at this time so i don’t blame you

@meln00bies Год назад

Actually, he also misplays a bit since he used "Starsigns" when you end your turn first, making you foresee his next move... Though i could see why he play that card... I think it's because he is scared that he only able to move once next turn, since "Starsigns" and Collei's burst cost a total of 5 dices, and then he'll be left with only 3 dices which is not really good. His Collei is at the edge so that probably also give him the thought of "i'll just use her burst next turn" and forgets that you could just force switch Collei...

@mk1interactive944 Год назад

I would love to vs this hand, I tend to build hands that favor being constantly swapped. either with multiple tanks(hard to kill, do tons of damage) or swap orientated decks

@jnn3025 Год назад

honestly as a quicken "expert" the player was very unlucky with the lack of fast action cards and you played rlly well

@Unknown-kh7gv Год назад

THE FRICKING UMINEKO OST YES SOMEONE PLAYS GENSHIN AND UMINEKO NOW TELL ME ISNT ALL DENDRO& INAZUMA QUESTS ARE COPY OF UMINEKO AND THEYRE GONNA BRING A NEW MONSTADT CHARACTER NAMED FREDERIKA WHAT THE HELLL

@vystaria Год назад

LMAOOOO FR THO, the frederika character, everything is just umineko, best series ever

@Unknown-kh7gv Год назад

@Vystaria IKR I WAS SHOCKED WHEN THEY MENTIONED BROKEN VASE AT DENDRO ARCHONS DIDN'T EVEN MANAGE TO CHANGE ANYRHING honestly i hate creaticity theft and i was so annoyed

@TomEllisLovesU Год назад

I've been using something similar to this deck but with Barbara, Aquila and full food and I can confirm I've made some people mad

@xvxy4441 Год назад

collei keqing fischl is my exact deck... I feel attacked

@arrrrrrrr6593 Год назад

I JUST played against the exact collei quicken deck and I lost the game using this deck T_T, gotta copy your exact deck. This deck is so much fun it's annoying lol.

@arrrrrrrr6593 Год назад

I used Mona here. And I needed wayy more healing stuff

@ricktam2841 Год назад

Nah dude this deck is not as good as you may think because Katherine and Noelle card exist which can f up your stratagy big time

@arrrrrrrr6593 Год назад

@@ricktam2841 nahh I didn't say the deck is amazing or anything. I just said it's stupidly fun to spam Jean's skill and to mildly annoy the opponents lol

@ВероникаМындарь Год назад

Я тоже люблю играть от них двоих, только ставлю Чунь Юня)

@guyupsidedown7199 Год назад

Boy am i glad we're not on the same server 💀

@angelbiscuits Год назад

i played against a kaeyajeanrose comp and got slaughtered even though i killed the jean in round 2 😭

@TrueKoalaHater Год назад

I actually like mona instead of xianling in this deck, just a shame that her damage isn't the best but it compensates for some rng at the start with her passive

@cheesynut Год назад

... she catalyst her NA apply hydro provide shield quick swap summon and you still want her to have average dps card damage. bruh

@shanthiendang2462 Год назад

This Deck counters my Ganyu superconduct deck. But I think that it loses to Melt Yoi, there is a new variation where you run Choyun in place of Fatui. This makes that they get both options to swap to either Ayaka or Choyun and 1 turn your deck.

@newbie4789 Год назад

I think you can counter Ayamiya with this deck. But you have to make sure you won't lose in energy.

@ringo69420 Год назад

If i really wanna troll someone i'd use my immortal deck (barbruh,noelle and ayaya) that always ends the match in 10 10 10 hp

@dizzydorothy9570 Год назад

8:23 song go super hard omg

@vystaria Год назад

glad you like the song! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-FnKJGcmpkaI.html heres the link if you want

@medicat3174 Год назад

watched all the way thru. nice commentary and team comp!

@adelhj Год назад

I getting Quicken many Times but I still manage to win,do higher damage than enemy,so simple,and I always win

@yunama47 Год назад

TGC need luck to win, both getting the good cards and dices. I hope in they add another pvp TGC where we can use all card from begining (still rolling dices). This way i think the game will "balanced" , no one loose because they are unlucky. Though also need to change some card mechanism (like Kokomi, etc that can take card) so that card wont be useless. Lastly, it would be very great if that TGC mode that can produce freemogems 👀

@yunama47 Год назад

i mean, like in this video. Vystaria would loose if the enemy got Catherine at the begining

@kevinsyamharira8301 Год назад

i preffered using fatui pyro to use as starter if i gonna go second and my hand have either leave it to me or katheryne for tanking. going apply pyro first for unlimited swirl reaction, or early aggresive if distruption is needed. thank to your vid, i realize card that gives burst energy like mona's card and fan guy can be cut in to a neccecary cards, because we rarely use burst in this comp (maybe. it's just my opinion). anyway, great video and nice decklist, appreciate it.

@vystaria Год назад

yeah, i think whether we use burst or not is match-up dependant. against decks that have strong reaction combos like quicken or ayamiya, i'd prioritize disruptions over ulting ulting is still something valuable, but it becomes a matter of finding the right time to use it there's a lot of flexibility with this team honestly, lot of potential and feels like you can beat everything - just depends on how you play

@ICNHH Год назад

meanwhile me: put down oz and oceanid summons, oh hp low? use jean to heal *shit the opponent is using noelle and ningguang*

@terrafimeira Год назад

Holy Umineko music. That slaps out of nowhere every time. Good taste. ;D

@johnreydelatorre3450 Год назад

Collei was forcing it lmao. She didn’t even try to improvise and adapt.

@whatzittooyah9182 Год назад

double anemo with jean, sucrose, and bennett has been my main TCG team, but you play way smarter and i’ve learned a lot from this. thanks for the vids!

@angieeae_ Год назад

Help please tell me I’m not the only one who doesn’t understand a single thing and part of their strategy

@Grace-ej5fu Год назад

Big mistake of them to not reroll for a noelle card or their Kathryne card,with fast switch in their hand they could easily proc catalyze over and over

@olyabutorina6869 Год назад

Ah yes, my opponent had this team and he made it for me even easier to win with my Chongyun+Diluc+Bennet team.

@rafaelnussi2001 Год назад

The Other side: "i probably must buy a Jean".

@dhaniapril4207 Год назад

kaeya burst works well with anemo quick swap cards 🤣

@brassard15 Год назад

Keqing, Fischl and Yoimiya together are pretty fun as well. Oz proca electro and Yoimiya burst stays on field for Keqing. Deck is built similar to Ayamiya

@pmzaii Год назад

This was one of my first decks I use yoimiya as dps and keqing as backup in case she dies

@justanaverageperson2162 Год назад

6:17 you should have the done the food so taht you only took 3 dmg…

@welkin9997 Год назад

Bro is screaming from the orther side of the table lol

@hopscotch5872 Год назад

This is why quick swap cards are essential

@justsoil15 Год назад

it is so longgg but really fun. :))

@Ариса-й2д Год назад

I think Mona better than Xiangling in this team

@marycrawford7209 Год назад

Collei is terrifying. Sidewinder on top of electro is 7 immediate damage. By far my favorite way to assassinate a troublesome opposing character. This video also shows exactly why I always prioritize Katheryne in my quicken decks-if you can quickswap whenever you want, you don’t need to worry as much about getting shunted around.

@MARUSHI-YT Год назад

i played this deck earlier and kept tossing my enemy back and forth until they admitted defeat

@Jojoponz Год назад

yeah i got fucked by this build, i entered this video just to be sure it wasnt me who was getting clapped on xd

@Lilyene0 Год назад

I wanted to do this but didn't think of using jean and sucrose together and used oceanid for more elemental application so that i can get swirls more often. I'll try this now.

@dreemgo73700 Год назад

Nice game ! Jean is really nice but I really dont like battle against x). Few hours ago what a pain to play against someone who use Jean Barbara and Oceanide with a deck full heal and reduce damage arghhh !

@brassard15 Год назад

Also, your forceswapping team is nasty. Great duel!

@amirul3233 Год назад

Which server are you in? I'd love to use my quicken and yoixingyun deck against you.

@vystaria Год назад

i am EU!

@amirul3233 Год назад

@@vystaria aw that's unfortunate, I'm in Asian server 😩

@raulhernandez930 Год назад

I can't login to discord tcg, it says invalid invitation.

@vystaria Год назад

discord.gg/gitcg try this

@pointlessfeather5830 Год назад

Good analysis and gameplay, you've earned a sub from me! :D

@bananasaging9234 Год назад

bro does NOT want to get quicken-ed 💀💀💀

@yeetoxic1754 Год назад

based OST

@capacityism Год назад

I played with the same character card, and a flexible character would be Keqing as I can swap whenever I want. And my playstyle would be early to mid-game. I had once reached almost 0 zero cards but inevitably I was able to win XD.

@val6125 Год назад

Can i use kokomi instead Of xiangling?

@vystaria Год назад

yes! i think kokomi is a really good option

@decidueyefan3844 Год назад

This bout to start my villain arc it's hilarious and evil I love it

@twittlebug1283 Год назад

it would've been even better if u had ellin support card

@WhereisAlices Год назад

Me building OTKs for these event

@dabstablook7774 Год назад

This is good but it is possible to counter this with fast action cards , but regardless still wastes their dice

@rolfvictormabao5942 Год назад

This is where Noelle's fast action cards come in handy

@light9879 Год назад

they need to nerf jade chamber ngl

@sylar3514 Год назад

to 2:00 "they want to get quicken off" - kinda, but not in this turn (unless they have "floral sidewinder" in the opening hand and if you didnt swap) , usually they just want to set up oz and get paimon/liben up and pass to get first turn and you give too many informations to your opponent if you play support cards etc. right away at the start of the turn, only play them if you actually use them or right before ending turn i hope that helps

@vystaria Год назад

yeah! I've realized quicken t1/t2 is kinda unavoidable due to ozs electro app at end of turn, and yeah the support card tip is good ty

@sylar3514 Год назад

@@vystaria yea no problem ^^

@gogy_unu2908 Год назад

I love how you explain!

@softcrema9687 Год назад

OMG pelea de mancos.

@cklaighe Год назад

pure evil :(

@cryptococcusneoformans2389 Год назад

Hmm maybe sac sword for more E or the other heal sword.

@vystaria Год назад

yea! I'm considering aquila actually the 3 cost is a bit steep but getting it early on would be major

@pizzarolli-r8v Год назад

OMG I recognised umineko osts it’s so based of you!! I rarely see umineko enjoyers

@vystaria Год назад

hell yea!! i loooove umineko

@pizzarolli-r8v Год назад

@@vystaria no wonder u are so good at tcg then :D

@pizzarolli-r8v Год назад

only smart and hot ppl read umineko smh

@vystaria Год назад

@@pizzarolli-r8v LMAOO so true

@luise.uzcateguid.6382 Год назад

Lets gooo

@bozzbyako7163 Год назад

You are winning because of those heals and you cant even play these card properly

@vystaria Год назад

so true, that's why im playing to improve :]

@bozzbyako7163 Год назад

@@vystaria yup and i watched the entire 20minutes video no speed up and u ruined the xiangling role, but still i apreciate u. This is just a critic for you to improve

@vystaria Год назад

@@bozzbyako7163 yea i think I should have started xiangling, there's no way to stop quicken on r1, but it can be stopped later on

@bozzbyako7163 Год назад

@@vystaria keep it up bro, we need more tcg youtuber like you 😀

@Linhoan-mz9we Год назад

Am I misunderstand st? 6:43 liben only takes 2 dices of 3. I don't know why.

@vystaria Год назад

it's because liben already had a count of 1 dice, so it only needed 2 dice to reach 3

@Linhoan-mz9we Год назад

@@vystaria No, the first liben card had a count of 2 dices, so it only needs one more, so the second card should have a count of 2 but it only has a count of 1

@vystaria Год назад

@@Linhoan-mz9we oh sorry, you''re correct that happened because, liben doesn't accept dice that are the same element more than once. i had 3 dendro dice, so liben #1 took 1, then liben #2 took 1 (it won't take 2 because duplicate dendro dice)

@Linhoan-mz9we Год назад

@@vystaria so Liben is not a very strong card, is it? :))

@vystaria Год назад

@@Linhoan-mz9we he's good, but you have to plan around him, and manually selecting the dice you use in rounds so you can end up not having duplicates