Jeep Grand Cherokee: No Communication w/ ABS Module - PART I 

The power of the people!

Everyone has tired of Scotty, and his antics!!

Not south mein auto?

Or 200 cold cranking amps from the battery! 😁

@sicktrickintuner: you didn't by any chance, have Chinese food for dinner, did you?? Lol

V8Snail Cool Hand Luke...err, Eric.

did a quick check, they have some rough google reviews (depending on what was sent in for repair)

They have been great for our two shops they will ask you what code you are getting and will determine if they can actually fix it or they will tell you up front if they are not sure until they open it up usually a one day turn around for us but our two shops are in Massachusetts.

I think that if those of us who would like to live near South Main Auto actually *did* live nearby, they would have to have bleachers in the front of the shop, and nothing would get done there.

If I lived near SOUTH MAIN AUTO, I would affix a catch sheet under my vehicle, so the rust chunks won't fall on him while he works on it!!

I do live near SMA.

yeah, my 2000 chevy Silverado was close to $1000 15 years ago. ABS light came on while on a trip to Southern California in the desert. Took it to a dealer and wasn't sure if they were taking advantage of an out of stater but after some checking it was what they cost back then.

I had a mechanic break a wheel speed sensor on a 95 grand too. They beat the hell out of a brake rotor and broke the sensor.

I cut mine open, resoldered , resealed the module. Fixed.

I broke my sensor the other day. I bought new one but still not work correctly. So you're saying it's possible to damage module just from breaking a speed sensor?

@@derekmitt23 No - the ABS Module failed after they replaced the wheel speed sensor twice but it was just a coincidence

That and the "To Be Continued" at the end...

Wonder what his first clue??? Things that make you go HMMMM!! Lol

Must have already been repaired.

Previous owner of a 2000MY, 210'000 mile WJ Grand Cherokee Overland with the 4.0 straight six. Great car, really comfy, built like a tank, but with a pretty poor interior quality, (it was the Wifes car) Whilst I was working away, she traded it in for a one owner, 90'000 mile 2006 WK Grand Cherokee Overland 3.0CRD with full main dealer service history. What an absolute stinking heap of shit it was. The paint looked like Stevie Wonder had painted it. All WK's that I've seen in any other colour besides silver have awful paint. It rusted worse than a 1970's British Leyland product. The 3.0CRD diesel returned worse fuel mileage than her old 4.0 petrol and was dangerously underpowered. The engines are supposed to be 217bhp, but I'd be surprised if they are even 150bhp. The auto box was clunky and slow witted. The ride quality was the worst of any car I have ever driven, (and I've personally owned over 40 cars in my life). It was like it was over-dampered and under-sprung, with a harsh, crashy but also wallowy ride. Whoever signed off on that ride quality needs taking outside and beating to death. It was plagued with constant electrical problems. The dashboard thought every day was Christmas with the amounts of lights that would flash on and off seemingly at random, and often different one day to the next. Jeep under Chrysler were really well built. Jeep under Mercedes were absolute heaps of shit. I should have known how bad it would be having previously owned a Mercedes CLK back in the early 2000's. That was a heap of shit also.

Jeep? That's Chrysler in general.

1999 Jeep Cherokee, with over 280,000 miles!! I HATE THIS THING!!! It's only two wheel drive, and in excellent condition!! 99.9 percent of the brite red paint is still brite red! Same factory engine! Same factory trans. Same factory interior, only, the headliner is held in place with a couple hundred push pins!! Damn Jeeps!! Can't make a headliner glue that lasts 20+ years!! Dangit!!!

roadkill5333 : I’ve no complaints about ‘proper’ Jeeps. They used to be built like tanks and ran forever..... Then Mercedes took over and they became utter shite, (just like most Mercedes really).

Yeah!! Forever!! My neighbor has one of those Jeep Comanches!! 1989 I believe!! He just rebuilt his engine, himself!! Had a machine shop work it, and did everything else!! We don't get the rust down here, in Mid Tenn!! A lot of salt, but only once or twice every 52years!!

Chuck's cars don't need no darn anti-lock brake modules!! The brakes are too scared to lock up!!

Chuck Norris's tank don't need brakes cause everyone moves out his way

Peter Martinez Chuck Norris don’t need no stinkin tank! Enemies turn and run at the sight of his guns.

bmw

zx8401ztv Or a mid 70’s Ford electronic ignition module! They would always get you home if you had the foresight to carry a BFH with you.

seems to me somethng that makes .50 holes is better suited ;)

Surely the quality of the product has improved infinitely now Jeep are no longer Mercedes owned ? That probably says more about Mercedes quality than it does about Fiat quality.

Quality is at an all-time low with Fiat. Not one single even-semi-smooth model launch since they took over. None of them have been on-schedule, mostly because of quality issues (their specs are just that lousy)

Gilles Thibault : How on earth could the vehicles have been any worse quality-wise than they were under Mercedes ?

@@frazerguest2864 Guess why FCA still makes the DS Ram? Why has the Grand Caravan just been discontinued, instead of the Spring 2017 as it was supposed to? Quality problems. Every new model launch under Fiat is more of a s..t show than the previous. No wonder their customer satisfaction, and reliability ratings are in the basement!

Gilles Thibault : The thing is, you kind of expect such woeful quality with FIAT, (Fix It Again Tomorrow), it’s the shit quality under Mercedes ownership that pisses me off the most. In the small town that I live in is a guy driving round in a 1989 Mercedes 190. Besides the faded paint and worn drivers seat, the car is like brand new. Still runs super smooth and has zero rust. I also see a 2007 Mercedes S-Class S500 driving around locally. Besides the bumpers, ever single panel is riddled with rust, as are most Mercedes around here approaching ten years old. That in itself is just one perfect example of Mercedes so-called ‘quality’. I’ll tell you what, I don’t see Fiats and Alfa Romeos rusting as badly as Mercedes. All manufacturers seem to be following the same path, (with the exception of Toyota). Accountants have taken over from Engineers. Cars are built to the absolute cheapest price. If a car manufacturer can sacrifice quality to save 1 cent per unit, then they will do. Cars used to be the second highest purchase a family would make, which is why most folk used to own a car for ten years before selling it on, (or scrapping it). Now with the advent of cheap finance / lease deals, cars have become a throwaway consumable item, built to last the duration of the warranty and not a day longer, (and sometimes not even the duration of the warranty, which often isn’t worth the paper it is written on). But such is the way a lot of our consumer driven society works. Just look at Apple products. Clever marketing aimed at the hard of thinking = sky high prices, yet the products are utter dog shit, often not fit for purpose and you’re lucky if they last two years before becoming nothing more than an expensive paperweight. I went into an engineering workshop a few weeks back. They had a lathe and a pillar drill in use that the firm had bought in the 1950’s. These pieces of equipment had been used every working day for nearly 70 years and were still going strong. I bet the same wouldn’t be possible if you bought new engineering equipment today. It would be scrap mental after ten years. Volvo Trucks is another great example. They used to be real tough workhorses. Now gearboxes and turbochargers costing several thousand pounds each are consumable service items.

we've all known one at one time or another lol

1:58 - "we'll see what it takes to turn that little guy on." Oh, my!

ABSOLUTELY!! The first words are never "TAKE MONEY FROM ME"!

three words (salt water corrosion)

davecc0000 Bosch have wiring diagram. They are very expensive and more advanced then autel.

Wasn't that Chevrolet's jingle?

Ford thin-film ignition modules were made in France! Modules were not upgraded so purposely made to fail.

@@GregoryBirulkin no wonder they'd give up so easily lol

Really, transmissions, engines, and rear ends are modules. The "Field Replaceable Unit" (FRU) designation is tighter - you are not supposed to go inside a FRU.

You've made a very valid statement. Diagrams aren't a topography map, and having to read a schematic and ignore the topographical suggestion of it can be difficult.

@@Resistculturaldecline topography maps are hard enough to read

I totally agree

"If I can do it, you can do it" Yeah Right.

It's a jeep thing lol

A GUY,,,, It's a 2005 it's 14 Freaking years old and it is living in upstate NY with god knows how many miles on it what do you drive that doesn't need any repairs in a decade and a half????? WTF?

@@robc8468 Not living in a rust area, but my 2002 Prius needed its first repair (replace inverter coolant pump) at 16 years old and 198K miles.

@@robc8468 it's likely "only" been having issues for 12.5+ years ;)

@@flagmichael check the mechanical engine driven water pump, it's likely leaking out of the shaft seal......

RAHRAH807 - Your town is 10X the size of the town he is working in....

Monte Stu I know..Customers be rolling out the red carpet for him soon one day..😀

Old school doesn't work very well on modern vehicles...

Do you know what scope is his go to these days. Looks like he’s using a Bosch here

@@ronaldkleinsasser2842 Not sure. He's got a lot of options. I think it depends on the difficulty of the diag. For a simple speed sensor its easy to pull out the miniature one, but the pico is probably still king.

I learned 30 some years ago that if you use them anywhere they can get wet they will corrode.

The CEL is also tripped. Don’t believe it will pass NY inspection with the money light on......

Jorden Epps alldata diy.

www.bbbind.com. Look under resources

Jorden Epps Try BBBind.com They have free wiring diagrams.

No sometimes you will get pulsation when you brake

@@miguelare3 Ok thanks.

many times the can bus runs "through" the abs module and doesnt stop in them as a dead end, so it unplugged could break communications with many modules. even if it is the canbus termination endpoint, it unplugged means no termination resistors and same non communication or very noisy bus issues of random whack-a-mole com failures

@@throttlebottle5906 Ok, I think if it was just unplugged, it would cause more problems than if left as was. I hate when any warning lights come on though. Its even more aggravating when you take a. Car to a shop they say its fixed but all they did was remove the light bulb that was on instead of fixing the problem