Jeep Grand Cherokee (WK2) and Toyota 4Runner | Off Roading Wipeout Hill | Moab Utah

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In this video we head out to Wipe-Out Hill in Moab, Utah. Join us as we take our Jeep Grand Cherokee and a Toyota 4 Runner out off roading in Moab. In this video we take a look at some of the differences between the two platforms as far as articulation and drive systems out on the trails.
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@TheZeke2230 3 года назад

Really appreciate your grace under pressure - both spotting and behind the wheel. That temperament alone makes every situation a teachable moment. 👊👊👊

@ProdigalOverland 3 года назад

Thanks!

@Cavscout101 2 года назад

How do you not know the specs of the vehicle you're making into an OHV/Overland vehicle?????

@laurenkresge5336 3 года назад

David did a great job given the circumstances. It was one less heart attack for me 😉😅

@salemk.3098 2 года назад

it’s painful to watch the 4runner struggling because of the ignorance of the owner, that 4runner not only has rear lockers but a-trac, mts and crawl control, and you just don’t install side steps when you plan to rock crawl

@vman8835 11 месяцев назад

😂true. So true.😂

@coloradomallcrawlers 3 года назад

If I could influence any new off-roader on just one thing, that would be to wheel it stock for a while. Maybe not as long as I do, but they are building these so good nowadays that they’ll impress you for sure. Wipeout hill is a fun one… my buddy and I filmed it, but we’re covering it from a different route perspective. It’s such a fun trail, but Zach nearly gave me a heart attack in an open diff lightly lifted XJ. Fun times! Fun to see you guys tackle it!

@ProdigalOverland 3 года назад

Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching!

@MrKozanitis 3 года назад

Again, an awesome and very educational video! Two things made plain for successful off-roading: know your rig and have an experienced spotter! Both indispensable. Kudos to both David and you, Brad.

@ProdigalOverland 3 года назад

Absolutely true. Hope you are well!

@MrKozanitis 3 года назад

Prodigal Overland Indeed I am. Thanks!

@justagraytj 3 года назад

Spotting is not easy when you dont know the vehicle, props to you for staying calm I would’ve freaked out!!

@ProdigalOverland 3 года назад

Thanks!

@fahdabdulaziz5067 3 года назад

I think anyone spotting for a Grand Cherokee needs to understand it is almost normal for one tire to be in air lol . Also how on earth does someone not realize his car has a locker?

@stout_tossme7541 3 года назад

In the 5th gen, it is right above the rearview mirror next to all the knobs. Not sure how they missed it. However, they are learning and new to this lifestyle. I am glad they had someone with them to help teach them.

@trailrunnah8886 3 года назад

@@stout_tossme7541 yeah, I was pretty flabbergasted that somebody who spent the money for the TRD PRO didn't even know that it had a rear locker.

@stout_tossme7541 3 года назад

@@trailrunnah8886 yeah, it was a little weird. But, I am sure you agree, at least they went out and are learning how to use it.

@trailrunnah8886 3 года назад

@@stout_tossme7541 100% agree! I guess they really lucked out they didn't end up buying an SR5 or Limited, LOL.

@charlesgibbs1071 3 года назад

Doesn't look like they even used ATRAC.

@RichardsWorld 2 года назад

Well, I'd probably be like the guy with a Toyota. A newbie that spends a lot of money on a nice rig, but not know how to use it. But, he's out there learning though.

@myisu827 5 месяцев назад

After watching a few of your videos, I truly appreciate the content. As a new owner of a 2014😢 Wk2 Overland Ecodiesel, I absolutely love all the Grand Cherokee content. It may not have live axles, but I'd you pick the right lines, it is quite capable.

@ProdigalOverland 5 месяцев назад

Thanks! Glad you found us!

@trailrunnah8886 3 года назад

Awesome to finally see a 4Runner out with you! I'm not going to hate on the driver for not having a lot of experience, completely understandable. I would advise most people though, before spending thousands in mods and venturing off-road, familiarize yourself with your vehicle's basic mechanical functions. I have a similar 4Runner, and I could have told you just by looking at it that it has a rear locking diff. Rule of thumb is, any Toyota 4Runner from 2010 to 2021 that has a hood scoop is a model with a locking rear diff. They also have crawl control, multi-terrain select, and a ATRAC. The locker, and even just ATRAC itself, would have helped on that last climb. I also strongly suggest getting rid of the side steps and replacing them with rock sliders.

@ProdigalOverland 3 года назад

They knew they had ATRAC but that didn’t seem to do much. And I think they are looking into different slides. Great folks we had a blast with them!

@ProdigalOverland 3 года назад

Thanks for the 4 runner tips!

@trailrunnah8886 3 года назад

@@ProdigalOverland I haven't had much opportunity to play around with my ATRAC, so I don't know how effective it actually is, haha. I've seen some videos from other 4Runner owners where it looks pretty impressive, others not so much. The few times I have tried it though, it definitely helped over having both diffs open. Either way, good for them for getting out and having fun with their 4Runner! I'm actually going out on a run in Vermont with mine in a few weeks, it'll be its first such run. Looking forward to hopefully testing out its capabilities!

@stout_tossme7541 3 года назад

A-trac is pretty good in certain situations.

@trailrunnah8886 3 года назад

@@stout_tossme7541 especially if one uses it correctly. I found when messing around with mine briefly, you have to keep your foot in it at a steady throttle. If you let off, it defeats the purpose.

@mikeday62 3 года назад

I lived in western Colorado from 1980 to 2007. From '86 to 2004 I went camping, backpacking, exploring, 4 wheeling, bicycling, dirt bike riding all over Canyonlands N.P. and many remote back country areas in central and southern Utah. With any luck I will move to Utah before I get too old.

@ProdigalOverland 3 года назад

Happy adventures!

@NotICON 3 года назад

It looks like that WK2 flex almost gave David a heart attack! I'm giving him crap in a Facebook chat group right now. 😂

@ProdigalOverland 3 года назад

Nice!

@DanhNguyenster64 11 месяцев назад

Maybe clip a walkie talkie to the drone so we can hear what everyones saying. 😊

@wilwynddoesnotcomply7436 3 года назад

You should tackle some of the east coast Badge trails. Beasley Knob is a tough one to do, and I’ve heard the trails in Tennessee are beautiful.

@ProdigalOverland 3 года назад

Heading to TN in the fall!

@wilwynddoesnotcomply7436 3 года назад

@@ProdigalOverland heck yeah! I’m going on Labor Day. It’d be fun to trails with you guys! Blue Ridge falls can be spectacular!

@MrKozanitis 3 года назад

Prodigal Overland If you go to Tennessee in the Fall, after October 27th I'll be with you; that's when I return from Europe.

@ProdigalOverland 3 года назад

@@MrKozanitis sounds good!

@billj5645 2 года назад

You're fearless in that thing with limited articulation. I pondered WK2 vs. JLU and bought a JLU just for a little more articulation and ground clearance. With good articulation you can do without lockers for most situations. I'm looking forward to your Elephant Hill video. I did that one in March and felt like I needed all of the ground clearance and articulation I had. Even at that I had one spot with one front wheel off the ground.

@ProdigalOverland 2 года назад

Thanks for watching and yes the wk2 does well!

@ipdjbt 2 года назад

The more I watch your videos the more I am impressed where you take your GC!

@gwoods10 3 года назад

Brad we need to get you some outdoorsy shoes, those slip ons kill me every time. lol

@ProdigalOverland 3 года назад

Got to keep it going! Love my slides!

@MrKozanitis 3 года назад

Prodigal Overland You, Brad, and my younger son! 😂

@TrailTape 2 года назад

As the Australian rhyme goes: "All the gear, and no idea."

@ernanieenriquez8238 Год назад

Nice job

@stevenromero4422 3 года назад

Brad and his slides/slippers while off roading 😁

@ProdigalOverland 3 года назад

😉

@richardfiedler2201 3 года назад

A lot of fun but I felt like I was going to fall asleep!!! If these guys ever went Wheeling with the boys of New Hampshire they better bring an extra pair of shorts LOL

@ros335 Год назад

100% I’d rather wheel a 4R, even an SR5

@pscruising5486 3 года назад

Your as bad as Pam on the trails with her "yachting shoes". Im "cool hand" Brad. I will stand in front of a "newbie" on a 30 pitch trail in my house slippers! Your are da man! Great to see you build confidence in your crew staring under the grill of a Forerunner. Great training and nice work. This is exactly what makes Prodigal Overland a really nice channel and group of people. Our next trip to Moab with be the last two trails you did. As always, your oldest killed it with the drone. Be well. Rick and Pam

@ProdigalOverland 3 года назад

Thanks guys. Miss you. Hope to meet up again!

@psychology2217 3 года назад

How does someone not realize they have a locker??? Especially someone with that much aftermarket goodies already added to their vehicle. I don’t get it

@yusheng4637 3 года назад

Roof rack, awning and light bar first! Oh, and decals.

@ProdigalOverland 3 года назад

It's a new hobby for them. This was the first trip out off road. We got them sorted out. Thanks for watching!

@yusheng4637 3 года назад

@@ProdigalOverland no worries, just kidding. At least they took their rig out and put it in test, than getting all those goodies installed and just drive it around town.

@vernonbennettiii3646 3 года назад

Should have put Lauren behind the wheel of the WK2 and have Brad spot -- best combo that you guys have done in the past, and I think you should have done it here this time, too.

@ProdigalOverland 3 года назад

She wasn’t actually out for this one. But yes that would have been better!

@MG-pt8dd Год назад

Wouldnt 4 wheeling on solid rock be hard on the 4x4 system with no slippage?

@stefan3225 2 года назад

Wow. Who builds a rig and doesn’t know if it has a rear locker? They had an Outback before right? 😂

@LegalMark 2 года назад

My stress-level shot through the roof watching this, haha.

@ProdigalOverland 2 года назад

It was a little sketchy !

@jeeprider9975 Год назад

I cant believe that guy with the white yota didn't know he has a rear locker ..bro you should be ashamed of driving one and not knowing!!!

@Jax1957 Год назад

Video looked really interesting, but lost me several minutes in when the participants didn’t even know the simplest of details about their 4R.

@jayhiddinga4292 3 года назад

Awesome performance with the GC! What temps are your transmission and oil running while you are rock crawling like this?

@wilwynddoesnotcomply7436 3 года назад

Depends on engine size. The Hemisphere usually run hot and heat soak so it’s not uncommon for temps that are a tad high, but the fan kicks in and brings it down no problem. I have no experience with the 3.6 or the diesel.

@user-ii5dx8wh5f 3 года назад

@@wilwynddoesnotcomply7436 3.6 is ok))

@vimejiasve 3 года назад

Good video, keep the good content

@ProdigalOverland 3 года назад

Thanks!

@jeepgreatstories 3 года назад

Dave did a great job! It’s scary seeing a tire come up, especially coming from a solid axle platform. Do you monitor your pitch and roll in the cab, Brad? Based on the roof, it didn’t look like you were in any danger.

@ProdigalOverland 3 года назад

Not at that moment. It was a bit unsettling initially 😂

@seanwatson3790 3 года назад

But the thing is as someone who has a cherokee trailhawk that reacts the same way, we are a lot less freaked by 3 or 2 wheeling than you guys are cuz we are used to it. We know our center of gravity is super low, and we are a lot more stable than we look like we are

@GS-re9iv 3 года назад

I’m curious on your opinion of the ELSD vs a locker. The GC and 4Runner aren’t a perfect comparison due to the different rear axle, but did you get an impression?

@ProdigalOverland 3 года назад

I’d put my elsd up against a locker no sweat. However the front brake lock differential is not nearly as good.

@jre617 3 года назад

Another fun video, thanks. So beauty there. (The drone buzzing was a bit annoying in this video.) (I don't subscribe because I don't know what that entails. I don't want constant pop-up reminders or emails or anything.)

@ProdigalOverland 3 года назад

Nope nothing like that. It’s just like saying this channel is worth watching

@tegucigalpa2 3 года назад

Why does a solid rear axle offer more flexibility than an independent suspension?

@ProdigalOverland 3 года назад

a solid axle usually has more travel that what an independent suspension allows

@bob4015 3 года назад

So wich one has better offroad capabilities ? Wk2 or 4Runner ?

@ProdigalOverland 3 года назад

The 4 runner had a lift so it had better ground clearance than the Grand Cherokee. Overall I think you can modify the 4 runner more. I think the Grand Cherokee 4wd system performed better.

@terrynichol577 2 года назад

@@ProdigalOverland the forerunner overall is a better vehicle lol. Especially for off-roading

@timkincade9763 11 месяцев назад

@@terrynichol577why didn't Toyota win WW2 ?

@TimeMariner 10 месяцев назад

@@timkincade9763Bc a nuke did?

@seanwatson3790 3 года назад

That might have been the worst spotter I've ever seen. Having a cherokee trailhawk, even though your driver's side tire was up in the air like that you were fine, and stable. All he needed to do was take you more driver and turn passenger at the top. If I ever had a spotter freak like that I'd tell him to give the radio to someone else . The fact that you had to self spot to him was not fair and not safe. Props to you for keeping it together

@McKayPhotographyAcademy 2 года назад

Well, what you don't know , and you can't see is how steep it is in the video, is that he started to bounce backwards . It was a lot more unsettling than you may think and it was about a 36degree climb. They could have roll over backwards had he bounced more. Yeah I didn't want to see him roll over backwards as has happened in that exact spot before with experienced spotters on the Jeep Easter Safari. So,,, without being there... and knowing what took place... yeah... it was tough. And... FYI... there was no one else to give the walkie to with more experience. Brad knew that going for it to begin with. Bottom line.. I'm learning too and guiding a Trailhawk is a whole lot different than a Rubicon

@seanwatson3790 2 года назад

@@McKayPhotographyAcademy I do get that. But I've also been in his position as well. It always looks way worse than it feels for us

@MG-pt8dd Год назад

Anybody that needs spotters should just stay home.

@alanburleigh7696 3 года назад

It amazes me how people buy vehicles and really don't know what they they

@ProdigalOverland 3 года назад

I know when we got into this space it was intimidating to me because so many of groups and forums were full with “experts “ it was easy to feel dumb as a noob. We have set up our business to specifically focus on folks that are brand new to this space. Where they can learn a ton about driving off road and their rigs without the judgement which often prevails in this area. I think it’s important to remember that we were all clueless at one time. And that finding safe places to learn should be lifted up.