30/06/2013 Menai Jeep Grand Cherokee 3.6L V6 Nissan Patrol 4.5L I6 If anyone wants to see some real action, please watch this video, I'm sure you'll enjoy it: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-4dYv1a1DrK4.html
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This is one of those videos that you found by accident or was recommended by the algorithm but for sure you are glad to had stumble upon it. Personally those are two unmatched vehicles however both did perfectly fine! Enjoyable video from start to finish!
All that brand hate. So much wasted energy. Lovely video and very nice driving. Both models seem to be in very capable hands, and it goes to show with the right driver it really doesn't need massive lifts, aggressive tires and a heavy right foot to cover trails like this.
I use to drive my mother's 2013 Grand Cherokee back when I first got my license.. Being in Canada it was tremendously amazing during winter, super comfortable rallying dirt roads at high speeds lol, and never left me stranded once
Great video. Team JGC! One of the videos you can watch over and over again admiring the exploits of the WK2. Aside for the Quadra trac, the approach and departure angles were superior here.
@@edsil5754 you must be one of the only few lucky ones mate we bought a brand new JK Jeep Wrangler diesel Auto 4 door in 2010 was the biggest Shitbox i of ever owned
This video is a testament to the capabilities of the Jeep Grand Cherokee! I purchased a 2013 Jeep Grand Cherokee Overland not too long ago and LOVE it. It hasn't disappointed me one bit. I actually think its look is better than the newer models. The larger grill and headlights give it a bolder, more rugged look. The rear taillight's design flow into the center chrome accent, making it look like an SUV rather than a minivan. Great video. Thanks for sharing!
This video reinforces why I'm not upgrading wheels/tires on my wk2. For one, its my daily driver and two, its still fully capable for whatever I'll be putting it through 4 times a year.
I own a 2019 grand cherokee .. but really love the style and the old school tec on the nissan. That car is actually very capable. Great vid and amazing trail guys 👍
Aussie Four Wheelers (Hemi4WD) Does this Jeep have the electronic rear locker or is it all done with traction control? Is it Quadra Lift or steel springs? Impressive stuff. Good job.
I am impressed with how much control the Jeep maintained. It was thinking how to best climb in every situation, putting the power exactly where it wanted it and the air suspension leveled it out perfectly. The ironic thing is that the Cherokee is really a crossover always has been.
Why is everyone so impressed with the Jeep? It's designed to do this! In any case, as far as I am concerned, if they both finished the trip without breaking, they both win. They may do it different ways, but they get the job done. But I's still rather have the Jeep and do it in luxurious comfort and style..
I've been in both on the highway all day (1991 patrol instead of a 98+ but the point stands still) and id rather be in the patrol cause I have far more faith in it getting me home without having to work out, why all of a sudden the computer won't let me have 4wd, the lights in the sun visors are trying to catch fire, the abs module has stopped working and I have no brakes at all, why the check engine light is on (on ours turned out to be a cracked head from poor material quality) plus the seats weren't even very comfortable after the patrol
Coming from someone who uses a 2011 Grand Cherokee for offloading one of the biggest factors is having the right tires to get the job done. I personally use sub-terrain tires because it gives a combination of a highway tire and a off road tire. For optimal performance using a All-Terrain tire is the obvious best option.
Interesting comparison, but the GC comes in on a disadvantage being that it's only got independent suspension. That being said, and considering its a laredo v6 I'd say it did extremely well. (Not to mention tires) All of you guys who are commenting on which one is better as a brand should compare a solid axle jeep to a solid axle competitor. The vid would have been much different if the jeep was a wrangler, with open diffs of course, to be fair. Put the Patrol up against a jk rubicon unlimited with 2 inches of lift and forget it. Then the reliability debate starts lol. Anyway, that's my .02 Good vid though Aussie, keep it up and cheers from the great white north!
People get so butthurt over brands. I prefer Nissans from a mechanic and reliability point of view but I'm not going to shit on Jeep enthusiasts. The rubicon is probably the best Offroader out of the factory bar none.
To be honest I think people put to much stock in Solid axles and articulatation for off roading. They are more important when you have limited slip or open differentials that can't stop the one wheel from spinning, but when you have lockers or brake traction control that can lock the wheel in the air and send pretty much 100% of the torque to the wheel with traction, wheel articulation is a lot less important. Plus with independent suspension you can get better ground clearance.
Awesome trail and amazing driving skills! Thanks for sharing it. I'm so surprised a V6 QC "mom-mobile" is this off-road capable - just helped me decide to buy a used 2011 for my winter ski trips in Michigan.
The Patrol made that look a lot easier than the Jeep, it had better suspension travel and more clearance. The traction control on the jeep was the only thing that got that through, and then it was putting massive strain on the half shafts. I think the patrol will still be running well in another 15 years whereas the Jeep I think will have died.
Yeah, you're right about the WK2's. They have pretty good clearance with the independent suspension compared to my WH/WK model but I don't know how high they could be lifted or what would be the biggest tyre size to put on. In regards to the Land Cruiser and Patrol, LOL, I better not comment, all war will break loose, HAHA, if you know what I mean :D.
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that's a jolly good job guys! both cars are great. I had a discovery 300tdi -rubbish. Now I drive grand cherokee wh with quadra drive ii and it s a perfect car. I love it.
Hi Ken, just as Nicholas said, his is the WK2 and I still have my HEMI WK, I love it to much, can't think of selling it yet. Yeah, that's my Patrol that I use for work, it's stock with a factory rear locker.
That one in the video is my mate's and I was surprised how well it performed. He also said he gets very good fuel economy. Personally, I love V8's so a HEMI would do fine for me, just love the sound. But if you want real good economy without losing much power, CRD is the way to go then, amazing torque, excellent 0-100 times for an SUV and good low down torque for wheeling.
Wonder if my toyota prado can tackle those tracks. Great video love both cars.... but if I have to choose which one performs better... I go with the patrol... jeep struggle at times due to lack of wheel travel.... but performs well otherwise
Nissan upgraded the Patrol from 4.5 litres to a 4.8 but the difference in power is significant as there is more to it than the slight increase in size. It is an absolute beast. I have driven a number of 4x4s and this is truly powerful and the auto box mates beautifully. Its reliability far outweighs most 4x4s except for Toyota who also produce long lasting vehicles. I went out and bought one and have done sand, mud and high mountain rock passes as well as other overlanding trips in Africa. It has been so impressive that my business partner also bought one. The first one is a 2004 and the second a 2006. Its offroad ability is enhanced by the powerful engine and amazing autobox. The suspension makes 4x4ing easy keeping all the takkies on the ground and giving fantastic suspension travel. That said I have found that Jeep Wranglers and the Cherokees are formidable offroad performers they have just proved unreliable over time and with age which is not ideal in an African desert or on snow capped Peruvian mountain passes both of which I have had the pleasure of driving. Great vids guys and great driving and I won't mention the safety stuff cos it's been said a lot anyway.
Jeep's fully armoured underneath, plus he's got the rock crushers on the sides, made out of RHS 150x50x5mm. I just did the same on the Patrol but went with a bit lighter 150x50x4mm and tested it (see the 4x4 Mayhem Teaser @ Wheeny Creek video) and not a dent, let alone a bend. Just scratches, which are easily fixed with a spray can LOL. So yeah, the Jeep does very well. The intention is to make it remain looking stock... a sleeper.
Not that easy! It wasn't just this trip. The owner of the Grand really gives it hard time and it's been on plenty of trips. All fixed now and ready for more adventures.
Hi guy's I love the video. I am just looking at getting a Wk2. Did that one you used have any lift or the quadralift added? Just not sure which way to go.
Nah, you're not offending anyone here. You're very right about the I6 4.5L engine. It is a bit sluggish and underpowered for this size of a vehicle. I wish it had a HEMI in it.
Best Off road video I have seen yet. Great video. I have a Nissan patrol myself 2001. I Am thinking about buying the GC. A question, Which one is best do you think. All around and off road. Peace from Iraq
GC with QD2 and a HEMI or even better, a new diesel with 570 Nm of torque, is good but personally, I don't like the look of the WK2 Jeeps, and they're a good all rounder. For offroad, I'd prefer the Patrol with the 4.8L plus it still has solid axles, and there are heaps of mods available for it. It doesn't take much to run 35 inch tyres on it. In Australia you can still purchase them new, so they will come with traction control and a rear locker. I hope that helps. مع السلامة من أستراليا
Everyones going on and on about having the Jeep rather than the Nissan but the fact is, that Nissan is from 1998 and why didnt they just compare the Jeep to the Y62 Patrol because the Patrol used here is so much older. The thing is, despite the age, the Patrol can still go anywhere. I actually have a Y62, and I really hope that the Y62 and the Jeep are compared.
Great video,thanks for sharing. Basicaly the Jeep said antything you can do I can do it better.The Jeep looked a lot better going through the trail in my opinion.
Just curious... what mode was the Grand Cherokee in? It looks like rock mode. It's odd, because the rock mode actually allows a fair amount of wheel spin. I've found that mud mode is much more aggressive on the traction control. Tire pressures ran? Thanks in advance.
What a terrific video - great driving from both drivers! I have been reading through the comments and notice that the Jeep has a 2 inch lift. Can this be done without changing the stock shocks and setup? Anyone know if that would void warranty? Thanks for the vid Aussie Four Wheelers!
Glad you liked the video. Thanks for watching and commenting 👍👍👍 Yes, it was running 2" blocks/spacers on the original suspension. Yes, this kind of setup will void warranty.
@@AussieFourWheelers Ok, thanks for the reply mate. If you have the time to comment again, do you think a stock height WK2 could do similar terrain? Cheers mate, all the best.
They are pretty low from factory, so there would be a bit of scraping for sure. Just bash plate it and see how it goes. Have someone spotting you to make sure you don't clip anything.
@@AussieFourWheelers for sure, and let's be honest the average owner won't be testing their vehicles more than the shopping malls. Very capable indeed.
Did the Cherokee have quadra-trac 1 or 2 on this model ? I just had a kid and had to sell my wrangler for something safer with more room so I got a 2011 Grand Cherokee Laredo used. I didnt know anything about the quadra-trac systems at the time I bought it and without realizing the one i bought came with QT1. I do a lot of off roading every week/weekend on the beach and I'm worried now that I might get stuck out there if I attempt it. From the looks of your vid it seems like I shouldnt have a problem if you have QT1 on your Jeep...
Awesome vid!! Quick question (not sure if the owner of these vehicles actually posted this video) I also have a patrol (series 3 with the 4.8L petrol engine) and also on gas and I was just wondering what size gas bottle you have used as my one seems to hang a little lower but is only a 70L tank (60L useable) which is smaller then the normal gas bottles used for a patrol. Cheers
Its June 2018, just bought a GC 3.0CRD, Laredo, 4x4. I have been looking for a video of it driven off road, and finally i found this. I am truly surprised how well the jeep did. I had no idea it was this capable, given it has the on road ride of a Mercedes ML. Can see it needs the wheels to spin, before it uses the brakes to send power to the other wheels, given it does not have any locking diffs. The trailhawk has the locking diffs, and so did the patrol in this video. Great to finnally see what i wanted to know !!!
Aussie Four Wheelers mine is pulling to the left. Need a solution. Love the GC and have done the usual dealer alignment and wheel rotation but not Joy. Any experts in Sydney ?
Aussie Four Wheelers no lift or any mods. Only done 2000kms. Dealer aligned it, have the spec. Said it’s as good as they get. It’s got standard wheels n tyres.
I saw you answer the GC has a 2" lift. I didn't see a response to the GC have the QuadraLift. Looking at it, it doesn't appear to have both a 2" lift and the quadralift engaged. Good video, I just got a 2014 GC Overland with quadralift. Amazing vehicle. Haven't done anything serious off road yet.
Did you trade your WK for a WK2? Looks like it's time to throw a small lift on that sucker and go up a size or two on the tyres. That said, it seems to do quite well. All of that exposed rock looks like a blast to wheel on.
Oops. Noted the locker clicking in the Jeep later in the video. Didn't hear the Nissan clicking; did it have a locker, too? Good driving you guys. Did you swap vehicles at all? What opinions did you end up with re the relative off-road capability of each vehicle?
Thanks for your comments buddy. The Jeep is a Laredo with Quadra-trac 2, so no locker. The Nissan has a factory rear locker but the solenoid wasn't working so was driven with open diffs. Both vehicles are capable offroad. The Jeep has independent suspension all around, so not much wheel articulation that is needed offroad. The Nissan has solid axles front and rear so is better offroad in that regard, but not as good as the Jeep on road. The Jeep is still very capable offroad and could go anywhere where the Nissan went, thanks to the new tech aids of traction control.
Yeah, that was not the locker clicking, I think that was the front diff starting to give up its life as a diff. Surely, the Patrol looks like it could do that all day (even in LWB), but i'm very impressed with that QuadraTrac2 shit going on under the Jeep (even if only for one afternoon). Although all that wheel locking and slipping does get in the way a bit. Great job!
That was actually the transfer case on its way, which finally gave up in this video: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-4dYv1a1DrK4.html but was replaced under warranty.