I'm an auto body tech and I did one of these warranties nearly every week for 3 years. Another spot the corrosion can happen is in the top of the window channel. If you roll down the window and pull down on the rubber where the window would slide into, there's a seam where the outer door skin is crimped to the door shell that will often corrode. The repair process Chrysler told us to use seemed like more of a band-aid than a fix.
We have a 2020 Jeep Wrangler JL and we're seeing this issue. We were told to get three estimates and give them to the dealer who forwarded them on to Jeep. Two of the places outright refused to do the work because "it will come back and you'll be back here complaining about our work when Jeep is the problem". It says something to me when businesses are refusing to do work. We're going to get it fixed under warranty (though what Jeep will most likely approve will be a band-aid solution as someone on here said) and then trade it in. Very disappointing because my wife has always wanted a Jeep and has loved it. But the potential issues and the continual issues with this have just put us both off Jeeps.
I wold search around for a Jeep Dealer who can do the body work. If they do it right, it won't come back. They need to replace all the panels that have corrosion, as well as the hinges. They should paint the panel before applying the hinge and apply the sealant jeep recommends. Lastly, after the work is done, just handwash the car and do what you can to keep it out of the elements. If possible, try and garage the car. Good luck.
@@The.Garage.Studio thanks for the reply! We’ll give it a shot, it seems from what we’ve been reading is that there is a difference between how it’s being treated in the States vs here in Canada. I understand that in the US they’ve started to just replace panels. Here they just repair the existing issue. Hopefully they replace the panels here too. If they do, we may try to follow the steps you’ve outlined. Thanks for the information!
My wrangler was a flawless 2021 80th anniversary in Sarge Green when i got it. 4 months later and 6,000 miles it needs a new hood, driver side rear door, and passenger side door hinge. has a total of 25,000 miles on it. WTF??!!
$20,000.00 like where do you go to get work done they are ripping you off. All vehicles rust and get corroded so your lucky Jeep fixes this. You only have the problem because the hinges are outside the vehicles if you would dry behind them or blow behind them you wouldn't have this.
Its a GALVANIC CORROSION problem with the mating of dissimilar metals. If you electrically isolate the alum from the carbon steel, the corrosion stops; a nonmetallic gasket between the hinge and the door and nonmetallic bolts or some way to isolate the bolt holes (electrically).
Let's admit it the factory knew about all these problems with the Jeeps by not preparing these surfaces properly to begin with Cause and all of these corrosion issues !! Which is unacceptable from the factory of them being cheaply built !!! Even a good body shop can tell you about these problems !! But with European Stellantis Company in charge now good luck !!😤😤🤬🤬🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️👎👎👎
I doubt they knew about this issue when manufacturing was getting rolling. Problem is having to retool and make changes after the production line starts would be very expensive. But, they should have bit the bullet and just made the changes. Their pissing off their most loyal customers.
What if you don't have any corrosion at this time but will have it at some point in the future due to this issue? Is Jeep covering preventive corrosion issues?
This is "NOT" Galvanic Corrosion. It's just the bare aluminum panels reacting to moisture. One person mentions Galvanic corrosion somewhere on the internet, and then the myth just continues to grow.
Why do you defend jeeps behavior. You are paying a premium for jeep and they are selling crap that falls apart breaks or leaks right of the dealers lot.?
Two dissimilar metals in contact will cause this. Does the same thing to boat motors which is why they put a zinc anode on the motor as it is a sacrificial material that can be easily replaced but will take the corrosion and spare the aluminum .
That's one thought, but I respectfully disagree. If that was the case corrosion would be the same regardless of the location. In the Southwest you see very little corrosion, but back east, and if you saw my video the Hawaiian special shows it has more to do with the environment and the humidity and moisture getting into contact with the bare aluminum panels than the galvanic corrosion theory.
@@The.Garage.Studio Ah but remember Hawaii is an island surrounded by ocean and in the north east they use a lot of road salt in winter. The key is the salt. Just like a boat in the ocean. Boats in fresh water do not corrode nearly as fast or as bad as those in the salt water. So vehicles in the southwest are a long way from the environmental effects of the salt. As you mentioned in your video the 2025 jeeps have a zinc plate between the steel hinge and the aluminum door panel. That is the buffer just as the zinc anode is on salt water fishing boats. Also as you noted keeping your jeep clean is a huge help. We tend to use car washes regularly here in New England to wash away the salt. The carwashes even have undercarriage washers to help remove the salt on the frames and drive trains.
We just purchased a pre-owned 2020 Wrangler a few days ago (on the solstice actually) and we never noticed this because it doesn't manifest like the corrosion of steel. I just went out to inspect our rig, and sure enough! There are a couple spots beginning to form!! I am feeling kinda scammed here. Luckily it appears to be in a very nip-it-in-the-bud early phase. Thank you for posting this.
I just noticed on my 2020 and took to the jeep dealer, they told me take to the dealer where i bought the jeep to get repair. I thought it doest matter as long as jeep dealer.
Yeah, Jeep dealers don't have to agree to do the work. I'd call around to different dealerships. Some have the body/paint shops that can do the work. Not all of them do.
i found were the hinges bolt on the door there is a aluminium plate with steel nuts pressed in it that rusts with the bolts and if water gets in will eventually put bits of steel rust inside the door that could cause corrosion to start i posted what i found in the facebook group but because im from australia the basically made fun of me i actually repair the corrosion panels because they are not pitted hear it’s bubble of white powder
Interesting. I actually took off my doors yesterday and saw some of that white powder as I was removing the bolt from the hinge (different bolt). But that got me a little worried. I don't have any corrosion (yet) and will actually have the doors off for a while using my half doors.
My first and last Jeep, bad work. In Germany our Mercedes or BMW don’t have these problems. It’s hard here in Germany to get the 5 year guarantee. Hope they will fix it.
My hinges started corroding on my 2014 JKUR. I pulled them apart, cleaned them up and masked and primed the unpainted door panels. I primed and repainted the hinges with flat black epoxy paint, added a gasket layer and sealed with clear silicone. 5 years later they still look great.
I recently learned about this problem. I'm the second owner so Jeep Cares said they couldn't help me. I'm calling again this week. Not my fault Jeep tried to cut corners
I just stopped at My local dealer , tried to send me away because i purchased it at a different jeep dealer where i used to live. They finally relented and said the service manager would call me. No call. So im returning to again press the issue. I have 2 months left on the warranty.
My 2020 rubicon is in process now. They are replacing the hood and doors completely and repainting the tailgate. They said jeep fixed the hinge issue in 24 but didn't say anything about the door and hood. It's garage kept, washed all the time and has 34000 miles. I asked about trading up and they want 33000. My 3rd and last jeep.
They made some changes to the hinge design which will help, but the manufacturing/painting process is the same. Likely won't be totally resolved until the new generation comes out.
@@SonnyPruitt-q1s A lot of it has to do with where you live and how you store the jeep. In the Southwest I see very little corrosion because of the dry climate. If the Jeep is in a wet envirionment consistently, especially salty roads or ocean, it's is much more likely to happen. You could look for a used one in the soutwhest. I got a 2021 Sports for like 27K with no corrosion. I'm confident I will not have any issues.
My 2020 Gladiator was covered. Got the hood and 2 doors covered. My girlfriend’s 2018 JLUR has it bad. Need to replace the hood, all hinges, all 4 doors and the tailgate. Not under warranty. Estimate is over $15k. Jeep cares is extending the warranty for us. We have to pay a $2500 deductible
I just bought a 23 Gladiator new off the car lot in May of this year. Its production date was Sept of 2023. It has 2024 characteristics (which even Jeep said it would or does). Hoping I never have this problem.
Long live the AMC CJ … I bought mine in 1989 , a 1982 cj7 . It came from the AL coast and didn’t have corrosion like that . I’m actually looking at buying a gladiator but I’m turned off by stuff like this , engine included. I really wanted one but seriously do not want to buy something that will need body panels in just a few years . As bad as AMC was in paint and body my original 1982 paint is protecting way better . These newer Jeeps may as well be a Datsun , remember those vehicles? They started corroding off of the assembly line and rusted out in a short time . Wow thanks for your in depth video , I will not buy one .
Hi, Daryl (please correct me if I heard wrong)! I have a bit off-topic question, but you mentioned it in the video. You live in Las Vegas, and I am new here. Do you happen to know a good car wash service here where they wash cars by hand without those pressure washers? P.S. loooove all your videos, binged in two days :D My lovely 2003 Acura CL Type-S is dying, well not the car - this thing is immortal, but the transmission, which is the same price as the car >_< Couples days ago, got stuck in the middle of the desert on the way to LA and understood, that this car is not reliable anymore for long drives, especially in the heat. And so I am getting ready to finally allow myself my dream car - Wrangler! I am considering leasing for a couple of reasons - since I had only one and very old car - I really want to experience all those luxury add-ons that Jeep offers, plus a brand-new car feel :) Leasing is cheaper, and all the repairs will be covered by it, which is good while I am getting to know a completely new car!
Hey there neighbor. Sorry, I don't. I've lived here forever, but don't use car washes often. And now that I know about this corrosion, will only be hand washing my Bikini Pearl (Summer Vibes is her name)!! Thanks for watching my videos.. appreciate it !! I wouldn't lease, it will always end up costing you more. Anyhow, good luck with whatever you decide. There is a really nice off-road jeep club called Desert Wranglers. Haven't went out with them you, but you should check them out. They do runs all the time. They have a lot of real knowledgeable jeepers. Also.. I've got a growing facebook group called Wrangler Jeeping (For Beginners), check that group out. I do my best to keep things civil..
Yep I have it. On the door hinges and bottom side of passenger door. It sucks but I bought it pre owned and I already knew about it. Unfortunately it’s out of warranty with almost 80k miles and 5 years old
I had a 2020 Rubicon. Had issues with the hinges and even on the hood. Went through five dealerships, and none of them wanted to touch it. Each one would tell me to call a different dealership. In the end, I got rid of the jeep.
Land Rover (the original vehicles going back to 1948 well prior to the birth of the DEFENDER) used aluminum bodies since their original prototypes. Bi-metal corrosion was (and may still be) a major problem with Land Rover and "Land Rover's" products. The Land Rover, again meaning the original vehicles starting in 1948, used thin sheet steel for their chassis frames. Those frames have a terrible corrosion problem. The Jeep Wrangler JK's (and probably JL's) use thicker gage steel than the old "Series" Land Rovers did. I drove Land Rovers from 1964 to 1993. I washed all my Land Rovers frequently after being on salted roads and even after driving in salt water. I never personally had a frame rust out on me. I am well aware of this problem, however, having spent about 15 years in the Land Rover business. Wash your vehicle frequently; don't drive in salt water unless absolutely necessary. I've had a 2012 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited (JK) Rubicon since taking delivery of it in April 2012. No major rust issues on my Jeep as of 23 June 2024. Andrew McKane IV, Maunaloa, Molokai, Hawaii.
I have had Land Rovers for many years and not had a single problem with the aluminium panels. Looked at a JL today that is just out of warranty and the rot has started...
True. But if the body shop that does the work ensure's everything is sealed according to the repair guidelines Jeep has provided, it's more than likely not going to be an issue.
i have a 2023 gladiator overland. it started in the door. it's gone and been repainted what was not done. hinges, doors, hood, etc. I'm a sucker. I don't think i'll sell it.
I reported the roughly 20 spots on my wife's 18 JL right before the 5 year warranty expired. Almost a year later it still hasn't been fixed and the dealership stopped responding to my inquiries.
the hinges are aluminum, the body panels are aluminum, the bolts that go thru the hinges are steel. It's not the steel bolts it's moisture getting underneath the hinges reacting to the raw aluminum.
Good information. I knew about this before watching your video but since I live in the Arizona desert I didn't think much of it. I have a roof rack on the Wrangler so I don't take it to a car wash. I wash it by hand. So, maybe it will be a non issue for me but now I know about running my finger along the panels by the hinge so thanks.
My 21 Jeep Gladiator has a small area of corrosion on the lower portion of the front passenger door. I’m currently in the process of having the corrosion issue taken care of by my local dealership.
This isn't about my JK, but in 1986 I bought a new IROC Z28 & with in 6 months the clear coat was peeling off 7 panels & I had to go thru hell to get the whole car repainted, they just wanted to repaint the 7 that were peeling & there was only 10 panels total, got my way, but have never owned a Chevy since.
Thank you for this information. Every time I hear about this issue, I wonder what kind of company this is. I own a Jeep, but this issue makes me nervous. Even if it's covered under warranty, it's a waste of time. They knew about the issue but made zero effort to remediate it. Coverage under warranty is not enough; it should be covered for at least 10 years, if not more.
@@The.Garage.Studio My question is about my 2023 car. I applied rust protection coating underneath and injected it inside the doors, but I am not sure if this procedure will protect my Jeep from corrosion. Do you know what else can be done to prevent it? Does painting the inside door hinges or doing something similar help prevent corrosion?
@@johnshirbini5801 One of the things jeep is asking dealers to do is to apply cavity wax after repaining the jeep with the repairs, so you could consider that - anything to keep moisture away from the aluminum panels. I'd also wash the car yourself and ensure the hinges and the doors are nice and dry. I would not leave it outside if possible, always garage it. And if you do have rain, possibly wipe it down. Here's a video on the wax. If you haven't already, join the corrosion facebook group - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ihxT2wanEhA.html
Your not complete in your explanation. It's galvanic corrosion. It's when two (or more) dissimilar metals are brought into electrical contact with water.
There's quite the debate about that. Given all the corrosion on the bottom of the body panels where there is no dissimilar metals kinda goes against the galvanic corrosion theory. Either way, it's an issue. Just hoping the fix lasts (i.e., replacing the panels, replacing the hinges). I purposely left out the galvanic corrosion discussion.
Wow sooooooo much bad information for what seems like someone that doesn’t know or understand what he’s talking about. (((( I’m a owner of a restoration shop))) the color isn’t hard to match on any of these and 90% of the problems have to do with galvanic corrosion . This is do to the two dissimilar metals come in contact with each other. You can help this pro by installing a thin rubber gasket between the metals simply painting them is not going to fix it
Great idea.. I added this to the videos description: TSB Links: 12-15-22 - static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/2022/MC-10229810-9999.pdf Hinge with Zinc 2-8-23 TSB: static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/2023/MC-10234479-9999.pdf 3-4-23 TSB - www.jlwranglerforums.com/forum/attachments/aluminumbodypanelcorrosionrepair-pdf.772728/
I have an 18 JL and every door, hinge, hood and tailgate have this corrosion. My Jeep has been taken care of since new but its embarrassing to drive at this point. Tried to trade it in due to the corrosion but every dealership mentions the extensive bubbling throughout. Even one door that was repaired by the Jeep dealership has corroded again.
Since you are the original owner, and already taken it in for repairs, I feel that jeep cares might extend your warranty. I would give them a call directly to try and get it extended. It sucks, but I think you may have a case. Good luck. Sorry.
I bought my 2020 Wrangler in July 2023. I was completely unaware of this issue. I first noticed it in November 2023 and immediately made a claim under warranty. They need to replace my hood, doors, and tailgate. I’ve been waiting since Nov 2023 and the dealership just told me it will be at least another year or more before they can get to mine. I absolutely love my Wrangler but I’m trading my Jeep in next week and I will never buy a Wrangler again.
If corrosion bothers you so much that you’d consider paying 20k for repairs, the Wrangler might not be for you. Use that money to fix the death wobble, get some lockers, and buy a different daily driver.
@@safitz7863 it’s not stupid, it’s solid advice and I’m trying to help people out. I have been daily driving a Jeep JLU for years, and I frequently meet people who regret their purchase because of death wobble, vague steering, wandering, “unreliability (it’s actually very reliable on the trail), or even silly corroded hinges (that happens to all Jeep models), because they were buying it for the wrong reasons. It’s actually a pretty terrible dd, compared to other options. All I’m saying is, if you would consider dropping 20k to fix some corrosion on your jeep, to keep it looking sharp for city driving, you might want to reevaluate the intended use of your wrangler, so you don’t have buyers remorse. And you know as well as I do, there are plenty of people who regret buying a Jeep and call them junk. Also, there are plenty of vehicles like it, now, that offer more comfort with most of the capability. Bronco, land cruiser, land rover, grenadier, 4Runner, g wagon, etc. My comment wasn’t criticizing this video, I was trying to complement it and help new buyers. These are things I wish I knew when I was shopping for a JL. I don’t regret my Wrangler at all, it’s the best vehicle purchase I have ever made, but it will be a dedicated camping rig and I wouldn’t buy it again as a dd if I had a family. Have fun trolling people on the internet and calling them stupid.
One key issue not covered in enough depth was what does the dealer do to correct the issue, and more importantly, what's going to prevent it from happening again? Also, it'll help your appeal if you'd trim the chest hairs back a bit. Not only is it unattractive, but it's particularly off-putting to most women. Sounds silly, but it'll help your subscription rate.
Thanks for the feedback. Yeah.. gotta trim that chest hair for sure. For the most part the dealer will. hopefully replace all the aluminum panels and replace the hinges with the new style that adds the zinc plate. No guarantee though it won't come back, but it is what it is.
blame it on your fine government. they are forcing automakers to meet a MPG rating. Jeeps are heavy because of the full axles front and rear, so they had to put an aluminum body and doors to keep the weight down but keep steel hinges which cause Galvanic Corrosion from Dissimilar Metals (steel/aluminum) contacting each other. I have a 2018 JLUR and live in a wet climate but I haven't had a problem with mine.
Yeah, that's debatable. I believe it's the moisture that's causing the corrosion on the aluminum panels, not galvanic corrosion. Galvanic corrosion doesn't explain all the other corrosion coming from the panels not near the hinge.
@@The.Garage.Studio mid 2023 and up if I'm not mistaken. Also the new part number got the zinc plates when you repair under warranty to help prevent other claims (DealerConnect information)
