I trained under Sigung Taky Kimura from 2006-2008. There were 3 classes a week, M/W/F and for the most part I would attend all 3 and I can tell you it was amazing to see Sigung consistently perform the warm ups with the class which included stretching, pushups, situps, and dynamic warmups. Even at his age he had a keen eye and knew what to look for when correcting students on particular things. He loved watching us spar and would laugh when someone got hit. I still remember hearing his laugh. One of my greatest memories was landing a leadleg roundhouse headkick on someone and hearing Sigung say, "thats it..thats it." I still think of that to this day while I train.
4:43Dan inosanto's Jeet Kune Do is exactly what Bruce Lee's vision for the future of the JKD, to say that only his jkd is a concept is wrong, no JKD is pure authenticity unless You follow Bruce Lee's vision for your own performance, be simple, be direct, be effective, and always absorb the useful, and always discard what is useless to you😉✌🏻
My opinion is based on training I did with instructors from the Inasanto Academy 20 years ago. What they were teaching. What Dan teaches. It's a mix. I like a lot of the "concept" but not the delivery.
My understanding on the Energy work is that Bruce was heavy in the Wing Chun philosophy in the beginning but got more and more away from it as he developed JKD. This is why he didn't have a lot of energy work later on because he developed more of a distance base than an in-fighting base. My lineage is under Sifu David Gallaher and he is mostly under Ted Wong and Chan Chee Man (Wing Chun), but he also trained heavily under several of Bruce's, and Ip Man's, original students.
This is a big misconception that has been passed on in certain circles of Jeet Kune Do. If this were actually true, it goes against the fact that Sijo Bruce intended on completing his training in Wing Chun while in Hong Kong, unfortunately, he passed prior to it happening. So he saw the importance of his Wing Chun training, and wanted to further develop those skills. Honestly, the only groups of Jeet Kune Do that claim this come from teachers that were no good at trapping, so instead of putting in the work to develop this skill, they avoided it and made up stories to justify it.
@@JustJayPs133 In the February 1998 issue of Bruce Lee magazine, the official publication of the Jun Fan Jeet Kune Do Nucleus, there is a lengthy interview with Ted Wong, wherein he asserts that "Taky [Kimura] told me that Bruce had called him in 1969 and told him that "Chi Sao is out"." So it appears that that is where the rumor that Bruce had discarded Chi Sao originated i.e. from Taky himself. Personally, I have a hard time understanding why Bruce would ever want to ditch this energy drill. According to most of his first generation students, Bruce was a master at hand immobilization attacks. The heightened sensitivity to movement, which he was able to cultivate through disciplined Chi Sao drilling, apparently enabled him to trap an opponent's limbs at will. This would have given Bruce an almost unfair advantage in any close range confrontation since few people can pull off JKD or Wing Chun-style trapping in a full-contact sparring environment, let alone successfully defend against it. It therefore makes no sense why he would toss out Chi Sao altogether. I agree with you that there probably was some politicking involved.
My own thoughts on this are that Bruce wanted them to stop training chi sao and the other energy drills the way they had been, in a more Wing Chun approach. Jerry Poteet said that Bruce was modifying the drills still in the late 60’s. Bruce would apparently come in and throw out what they had been doing previously at various times, but he replaced it with the JKD version he had devised. It was a way to train energy that reflected the philosophy of JKD instead of WC. As an instructor, I totally understand doing this for my instructor team. “Stop training that. I’ll give you the new version of the drill when I see you next.” But with Bruce, he shifted to making movies and then he died. He just didn’t have the opportunity to bring everyone up to speed. He was exploring so much. At the end, it was mostly movie choreography. Everyone was excited for Bruce to return to LA and their training to continue, but he never made it.
@@evolutionJKD Now that makes sense. It is consistent with the exploratory nature of JKD, especially during the art's foundational period. Please keep sharing what Bruce taught and shared with Jerry Poteet, and what Jerry in turn taught and shared with you. There is so much misinformation and confusion out there on Jeet Kune Do, so any clarification from folks with a direct martial arts lineage to Bruce is always welcome.
7:33 #takikamora another #master of #jeetkunedo using a BUI GEE (finger jab) and a CHEUNG CHOY plus a GUA CHOY we can use the back hand to link the three staying strong arm forward in a lead strike. 😉💥🤛
5:22 Dan Inosanto could be considered a boss to me. He worked with Bruce. Dans JKD? I can tell you from my experience studying him. Here’s how he breaks it down. Dan is doing GUNG FU. 1. PAK SAO and BUI GEE. You’ll see DAN doing entries with SLAP HAND and FINGER JAB inside and out. Once there. We have a short range Chinese boxing option we go to. Vertical fist. Just like you guys do. Then we either go into JIK CHEUNG CHOY or WESTERN HANDS. 💯5. RANGES. Kicking, punching, trapping, grappling, probing. A cat of nine tails BUI GEE pointing the fingers all in a triangle thumb is tucked in center palm. Dans is the best right along with Jerry’s. 😉☮️💯
There is a difference between "studying him" and "studying with him" that makes a great deal of difference with an individual. As well as "when" you train with a person. Where were they in transferring information? Where were you in taking in that information? These are important questions. Training with the best instructor in history doesn't make a difference if you have no ability to absorb the lessons. Watching a video and going to a seminar is very insightful. I recommend both! However, they will never replace the one on one training with an instructor (in anything) over a prolonged period of time.
4:49 Just a small opinion, JKD punches shouldn't necessarily be vertical, for that there's the straight lead, I've met irrational people to the point of saying that if you don't use vertical punchesJust a small opinion, JKD punches shouldn't necessarily be vertical, for that there's the straight lead, I've met irrational people to the point of saying that if you don't use vertical punches You don't really train jkd, and that's a very sloppy and limited thought, obs: the way you explain it is really good, I love your way of communicating.
The vertical fist lead punch is critical to JKD. I can speak from experience that other styles are not accustomed to dealing with it when applied properly. A "regular" jab is typically thrown from shoulder height and travels almost in a straight line. The JKD lead comes from a little lower and travels slightly upward. The vertical fist does make it easier to travel and slip through an opponents guard, especially when gloves are on. To be honest though, I dont see enough quote unqoute "JKD" people really spending enough time developing this punch. If you stick to the principles it can be a devastating move that is hard to see coming.
Also, too many people worry about what JKD is and isnt. Bruce's notes are available for everyone to see and is training log is documented. What ever Bruce was doing, thats what JKD is.
The vertical fist is a big part of the beginning levels of JKD. In the higher levels, an open hand is used. Vertical fist is one of the building blocks for JKD. Not saying don't use a horizontal punch, but you should really be working through the mechanics of that vertical fist structure.
I’m interested in the Ted Wong lineage. I came across Hiro Watanabe in some videos and was very impressed. Anyone of the Ted Wong lineage in the southeastern U.S. ?
My lineage is 3rd gen from inosanto if I said that correctly also wing Chun Leung ting lineage the wing Chun definitely helps the jkd and vice versa train in anything you can
I'd agree that in the novice levels, JKD and WC training would be beneficial to cultivation; JKD & WC. The more movement the better at that level. However, when stepping into the intermediate levels you will begin encountering the contradictions and it will slow your growth considerably; JKD separate from WC. When you get to the advanced levels you should be challenging yourself against skilled practitioners in other arts for your continued growth; JKD vs WC. Then it's back to the idea of the more the better.
@@evolutionJKD James Lee is actually in the color footage from Long Beach International Karate Tournament in 1967. He is the 2nd. guy at the end who was sparring with Bruce wearing full protective gear. The first guy is Dan Inosanto.
8:12 If one guy is certified and is a “Level 1 guy” or “Top Tear guy” like you had said. What’s the difference if somebody uncertified can beat them. Or is a standout? 😬we should recognize RANK based on what you can do. 💯💥and how hard you can hit accurately. Bruce would’ve wanted that.
You're always looking at the individual and the source. How good is the individual? How good is the source? In this video, we are focusing on the source. No matter how good the individual might be, they are limited by the source.
I trained with James demile in the shoreline school late 90s. Unfortunately that generation is fairly quiet..I have only heard small thing over the years.
Good job on not listening to the content! I made no comment about which "branch" was better, but rather your branch should actually be a part of the JKD family tree. And not just learned from playing video games or something.
@@evolutionJKD My comment doesn’t say you did, now does it.? I’ll wait..I said what I said because so many people argue those topics. I was actually agreeing with your title but. Expressing how when it comes to lineage. That’s the first thing that comes out of people mouth.!! Now lol thanks for taking my comment out of context
Great to See Abe Santos with Taky in this clip. Real shame that he got shafted by Andrew after he decided to whistle blow and tell people that Andrew was in cahoots with David Tadman producing fake Bruce Lee items to sell to unsuspecting dupes….. God bless you Taky🙏🏻❤️
There are a lot of sources, who trained with Bruce Lee. They all took away something different, but there are still a lot of similarities. In the 70's, Bruce was focused on film making, so his movements at that time were more for the screen.
Not talking about “movie stuff” the stuff he did in movies looks very little like what he actually practiced. Some good stuff in way of the dragon, and g.o.d and etd at times. It’s foolish to think what he did in 67 is the same thing in 72/73. He went away from wing chun, took the range further out so he could come in and out. Long range sniping. That’s end stage JKD. Problem is people are stuck on what Bruce did in the 60’s and can’t move past it. They can’t adapt or refine things like Bruce did. This is why he he took trapping and chi sao out of the curriculum by 71. He found more effective direct methods. It’s also well known he would often lead people in a different direction than what he was going. Confirmed by Inosanto himself. Late stage JKD is a separate art altogether. Bruce went from touch to no touch. This is why people had so many problem when fighting him. detachment and long range, why stick when you can just hit and back out and come back in. Unfortunately next to nobody trains like Bruce or really follows his principles. Body mechanics and movement just aren’t there for the majority of JKD people.
Well, there is Jeet Kune Do as Sijo Bruce developed, trained, and passed on, then there is concepts, and finally, the Wong way to do things. And that’s all I have to say about that.
This stuff is okay but it's very basic when you compare to any of Ip Man's students or more advanced modern Wing Chun players. The JKD people tend to miss a lot of details when they do the Wing Chun stuff, especially chi sao and related drills. For example when you take the line in chi sao and hit, the other hand should ALWAYS be setting up something called fan sao. Fan sao means when I hit you with my left my right takes position to follow up. A single hit with one hand is fine for a beginner but it is incomplete. You must have full control of the partner with both hands and then later the legs too... your single hand attack doesn't mean much. There are lots of details that are missed and I would suggest people seek out or observe some of the more experienced Wing Chun people out there in order to get the most out of the Wing Chun elements. Bruce was great but the Wing Chun he passed was incomplete at best.
The point of the video was to appreciate the heritage from Bruce Lee. We don’t do wing chun stuff, we do Jeet Kune Do stuff. Simplified application is also different than “basic”
Your outlook might be great for an instructional video on Wing Chun, but this video isn't instructional or about "Wing Chun". Any videos on instruction that I post would be with a Jeet Kune Do mindset. Look for those in the future.
Sorry to say but there is no lineage in JEET KUNE DO. The philosophy was for everyone to share and live the experience. His way was one way and they’ve taken his philosophy and turned it into his worst nightmare: a style. Everyone else has used keywords: lineage and generations to make money off of something that was never meant to be what it’s become. Bruce Lee would have hated what they have done to his idea. Jeet Kune Do was his interpretation of fighting at that time for himself. But it was going to evolve and probably change had he still lived. They’ve commercialized a philosophical thought lol!
There is a lot of truth in what you share here. I don't speak to the 3rd...4th...5th generation people out there who only trained for a few seminars or a few private lessons. I'm speaking to those who have actually trained. If you only train for a few weekends or a few sessions, then you only get a little. Some of us trained a lot and for a long time and with a lot of background in martial arts and conflict. I do agree that a lot of people in the "JKD world" have used the name and key words to commercialize it without actually sharing "Jeet Kune Do".
#jerrypoteet 🐉💥💯the best. I took my lessons off #octavioquintero although I haven’t finished yet. But even without it. Don’t forget, #brucelee didn’t have 1 SIFU. I do think the curriculum needs work. Not Jerry’s or dans. I like DAN and JERRYS the best. But we need to learn the #wingchun as well. Maybe stop by n check us out Sifu Ludlow. #viperjkd 💥😉
Tav is great. We've moved together several times, and it has been a learning experience for both of us. We are very different fighters. I've never actually trained in Wing Chun. I don't think that it is necessary for me. Ultimately, it is up to the individual.
