Lets keep it real, Boogie was only added to Allstars BECAUSE bb didn't want Dr. Will in there by himself. Boogie played a horrible game in season 2 and was NOT an Allstars. He became one after season 7. For that reason I cannot call him a "legend".
Well, first of all BB2 is almost a completely different game than BB14 after 12 years of modification. Second, the point about Danielle following Dan is completely invalid. That advantage wasn't handed to Dan, he got Danielle to trust him and follow him. Likewise, everyone else in BB2 was against them in for a reason. Dan was also targeted early in BB10. Will is not "obviously" the best BB player.
Now Boogie was a part of Chilltown and people need to stop acting like he isn't. Will and him were a great team and although Will is on another level of genius, Mike is up there too. He is smart and knows how to play. In season 7, chilltown dominated. CHILLTOWN which included Mike so obviously he earns credit by being in the best and first big brother alliance ever. He also won BB7 with AllStars so give the credit where deserved. Mike Boogie is definitely a legend.
To be fair he won because Will made it to final 4 and then Mike pulled out the miracle final HOH otherwise he would have gone. I wish he would have handled his emotions better in real life instead of making threats as I believe Chilltown is not so Chill anymore
I completely agree with you. Dan's better than both of them and after seeing Dan in BB 14, I think he has surpassed Will as the best big brother player of all time
Boogie, is a Awesome Player in Big brother all-stars (The week howie got evicted) If boogie wasnt there will would have been evicted boogie changed the target to howie so i agree with will they helped Eachother #TeamChilltown!! The best alliance ever!!!
he is a legend. Same with Janelle. Now in season 2, everyone in the house was against him, Will, and Shannon and wanted them out immediately. I don't know any big brother player, other than Will Kirby who could get themselves out of that situation. The houseguests in BB2 were really smart unlike those of BB14. Danielle followed every work Dan said but in BB2, Will had to manipulate his way to the end. Without debate, Will is obviously the best big brother player.
Mike was More loyal to Frank then Ian and Jenn Janelle wish she Picked Ian and Kara over Wil and Ashley Sorry Mike and Dan HOW Old is Ian /Ashley goes NEXT AFTER U BECASUSE Ian Wins the Next Hoh Dan Danielle Shane and Britney have a Alliances with IAN HE voted to keep BRITNEY OVER U Ashley and FRANK VOTED FOR Him
Why do I always have to defend Boogie. I feel in season 14, he was given an unfair chance because he came into the game thinking he would only be coaching. He had everything set up and would have won the game if it wasn't for the reset. Anyone who says he is not an allstar needs to go see his seasons again because you're completely delusional. The houseguests knew how great of a player he was and he and Janelle were targets right away. The houseguests would have been stupid to keep him because
I gotta say even though I didn't like boogie on bb 14 if he woulda pulled off that move with question mark box that would of been the best move of the summer. Yes even better than dan's funeral
Dan was already a legend after BB10. You think Dan couldn't have gotten through all stars? ... He basically said "no disrespect to Dan/Britney, but you and Janelle are at the top... you'd be in the hall of fame" or some shit. Boogie didn't fool anybody really, it was just Dr. Will. And Janelle... Just because she's a big name, doesn't mean she's as good as everyone says she is. Plus, Dan also had Boogie/Janelle in the dark this season.
He said when it comes to their names and the association their names have with the game, they are legends in comparison to dan and Britney. After this season dan will be more respected, but he fooled nobodies. Janelle and Boogie got through All-Stars. dan just had to fool Frank (not too smart), Shane (not too smart), Jenn (irrelevant), and Danielle (totally riding dan's coattails).
Dan also had to come up with the greatest hail mary plan of all time to save himself from the block with less than a day left before the veto. People forget if Dan didn't do his funeral he's going home that week in 8th place and nobody would be talking about him today. It may have been a weaker cast but Dan still had to actually save himself instead of lay down and die like 95% of houseguests.
He could take credit for anything he wants, and you could give him credit for anything you want, but he really didn't do anything that special. I do like Mike Boogie. But to say he's better than Dan is psychotic. Janelle is overrated, good player, but not THAT good. She played horribly this season. That's all. I'm not going to swear at you and insult you anymore. I'm just saying that I think getting through All Stars doesn't make you better then anyone. Erika got through All Stars.
Boogie fooled all of the quack pack into getting rid of their ally. Someone who had their back. The reason Janelle and Boogie didn't last is because they were at each other's throats and Boogie was too associated with Frank. His game is more silent and Frank was too loud. As a coach he needed Frank, but that hurt him as a player. Also, I don't think Dan would have gotten through an All-Stars.
Boogie didn't fool them. Ian fooled Boogie. So what does that make Boogie? .... Just shut up dude. Just because you don't like Dan doesn't mean you have to rag on his gameplay. Kaysar and Jase were horrible players. Boogie had Will, and that's the only reason why won All Stars. Will took him to the end, and all he had to do was win 1 3 part HOH comp. Boogie was in the dark. So was Janelle. Dan was apart of all of those evictions. Dan is running the house now. End of story.
I wonder if Boogie remembers all those times when he and Frank insisted that Ian is smart but just "doesn't understand the game"? All of his bravado while Ian was playing him sure did make for great t.v. Stomping around, badmouthing others and making nasty dr's about him and others sure did make Boogie look foolish. Bullies aren't too popular these days even within the context of a game.
Boooogie....Dolt!. He did play a better game!. Strategically, he was better than you and this is the reason he won!. The best outcome would be if.....Will (won) and Ian (second). It was a fun season minus the booze control!....it could have been a blast if you guys were able to just enjoy the time and let loose (more)!. Take care!
It's funny how much Mike projects during the Ian part of this conversation. Saying Ian got drunk with power, that never happened on BB14 with Ian but we've seen Boogie act that was many times throughout his seasons. Ian always staying level headed contributed to why he won. And by completely his own merits, not being carried most of the way by Will or preying on a vulnerable girls emotions to get to the end. Ian used intelligence and strategy for his W. I'd never consider Boogie one of the best big brother players but Ian definitely is.
Janelle had already spread a lot of lies around the house about Boogie and that's why they didn't want him around. Then Ian sold him out to Britney. Frank was also drawing too much attention to himself. Boogie would not have aligned with them had he been a player from the start. Kaysar was smart and Jase won comps. Why would you call me a "fucking psycho" just because I don't agree with you? You seem a bit psychotic, thinking that dan fooling dummies like Frank/Jenn/Daniele/Shane/Ian is amazing.
