@Elyssae He wasn't a psychopath. They kept his brain after he died and found NOTHING. He just learned to live with the things he did and doesn't cry his eyes out about it. Why should he? That doesn't make it better. Not for himself and not for the victims.
+Sani 743 Is the brain chemistry different in Psychopaths? I thought it was more a personality disorder rather than a mental illness, as in Schizophrenia can be treated and a patient will return to a functional "Normal" behaviour, where as a Psychopath can't be treated, they can live normal lives but in essence there is nothing medically wrong with them?
A Psychopath can also be treated. Not sure how far the medicine is in your country but in Germany we do have medication for psychopaths (and therapy btw). And well, I didn't study that but I'm sure they would've found out if he was. Every psychologist said that he was sane. I kinda trust their opinion.^^
"a person that i found physically attractive and keep them with me as long as possible even if it meant keeping a part of them" DAMN that's really fucked up
Ed Gein, Serial Killer, Wisconsin in the 1950's said he felt too things when he saw a pretty woman in the street. He said one part of him thought he'd like to take her out to dinner, treat her real nice, buy her flowers and all that. The other part thought about what her head would look like on a stick..!
Some would call it nothing, others would call it stillness. They have the ability of presence and can jump out of the shackles of their minds and immerse themselves into the moment at any time, ridding any feelings of discomfort.
what i find really scary about this is that he is super calm and no one would ever assume like he's fucked up. If I had met him with this attitude in the interview, I would have thought he's a cool person
That's how psychopaths think actually, he believes himself more important than the rest of his environment and human is just another animal for him and since human meat is rumored to be tasty i guess he never had ethical boundaries on doing that. For example if you ask me to stop eating animal meat i will do it for some time but the "compulsion"(like he said) to do that would be just too great, i will think about it all the time and i will just get a steak the first chance i will get. So yeah psychopaths are basically compulsive and obsessive people with really high self esteem :P Edit: And most of them are really smart and methodical
One of the most fascinating serial killers. He just seems so normal, like a man who might be a neighbor, co-worker, tenant, relative, etc. He describes killing so calmly and naturally. He's a true sociopath, I don't have any pity or any positive feelings towards him, but he is fascinating.
Taxidermy is subjective just like Jeffrey's "hobby". Bottom line is, taxidermy is NOT normal and it says a lot about the person doing it or who considers it to be normal.
He is not wired wrong, Psychopaths are mostly evolved, such as he was. or they obtain a head injury, or in more rare cases, acquire it through genetics.
+DeathCreationist You can only be born with psychopathy and there's no reason to believe it's hereditary. You're probably thinking of sociopathy. Dahmer is definitely a psychopath though, not a sociopath.
It's so weird watching this, because he's known as this monster, but watching this, he sounds so normal, so human. Of course his urges and fantasies were by no means "normal", and it's hard to say if he truly felt any sort of remorse or consciousness for what he did, or if this interview is just that master manipulation that psychopaths are known for, hoping that this interviewer and whoever sees this would feel something for him. It just shows how scary people can be, that you never know what's going on under the surface, and that anyone could be capable of this, no matter how normal, smart, or polite they seem.
Sabrina Simmons he seems more of a sociopath, as he did love his father and his brother, a true psychopath doesn’t have bonds with other people. Also Jeffrey was aware that what he was doing was wrong, while a psychopath doesn’t have a conscience. Sorry, but I can’t help but point it out.
@@funtimes8296 he had borderline and two more mental illness, but he was still considered sane, wich is strange, normally people with mental illness don't go to jail because they are seen as people who aren't able to control themselves or see the reality in a different way, so i think that no one could really say what he had
i think jeff was a "good" person but he just had sick and twisted fantasies. like in his interviews he says he doesn't like criminals that make excuses for what they did. jeffrey admitted to everything but he just couldn't keep his fantasies away from reality. he's different from other serial killers who were just evil. i think he just wanted to satisfy his loneliness
Stephen King said: "Monsters are real. Ghosts are too. They live inside of us, and sometimes, they win." He was obviously speaking about this kind of person.
Re-view Film I don't think there's anything fascinating about him. People nowadays are so obsessed with everything "different" and "unique" that even sadistic cannibals are considered "fascinating" -_- SMH
Well look at their history of the USA and how many mass murderers there was over the years ? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_massacres_in_the_United_States Thats not all of them either, you still have single people doing mass murders as well ? Heres that link as well ? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Mass_murder_in_the_United_States Now you tell me is the USA Normal when you dont know if you can even get food for the next day or a roof over your head, those are the people who are suffering every day yet none of them are doing what the rest in these lists are doping right or wrong ?
trust me ...it can be one second where u lose ur sense of morality and rationality where just act how u feel ...one seconed where ur life could change. It's not the big things in life that make u a Monster but the little, if they happen over and over again
all them serial killers are the product of a messed up childhood. There are enough documentaries about that, arsonists suffer a similar thing, like rapists. Look into profiling I guess.
He needed help as a kid and thru his teenage years but no one paid attention to him at school and at home. There was a lot of warning signs that there was things wrong with him. Lives could've been saved and his if he would've gotten some help from adults. It still doesn't justify what he has done and he does indeed deserve to be in prison. He needed a lot of psychological help.
Joan Cassie I think you should consider what Anti-Personality Disorder is. I'm not certain but I think they did tests on Dahmer to find that he had it. For true sociopaths, which Dahmer obviously seems to be, no amount of psychological help can change them. They simply have no regard for human life and have constant compulsion to commit heinous crimes. He directly stated that even as a small child he was "mystified" in what the insides of animals looked like.
I have to say, this guy was the most honest guy out of all those serial killers I've seen, it was an addiction, he simply. couldn't. stop it. And he even said he was the one to blame, not anyone else, let the guy and the victims rest in peace..
To mashona atterberry, yes, most serial killers have hurt animals before but it isn't a sure sign of it. The three most common signs are schizophrenia (mental disease which causes person affected to not differentiate between what is true or what he or she is imagining. Many people affected have hallucinations), bed-wetting (don't know how but I read that it was one of the top three signs) and like you said, cruelty to animals is another sign.
if anybody harm an animal for the fun of it ,something is wrong with them,and something is wrong with your ass to condole it. Don't respond to me no more with your sick ass to...
Thats exactly what makes people like him so dangerous , they are educated , they are smart , speak well alot of the time , yet just dont experience alot of emotions in ways " normal " people would , You can see just how Flat his emotions are through the entire video , no matter what subject is being talked about , Scary Scary shit
His story may be tragic. But he deserves no sympathy. Many people come from harsh backgrounds yet don't go around killing people. The main tragedy I find in this story is how a perfectly good life was wasted, which in turn wasted more lives in the form of his victims. Watching him talk about and reading about his life you get a sense of what he could have been. He could have been a decent human being, living out a quiet and simple life in peace. But step by step, event by event, he walked down the path of madness. While he was a monstrously evil man, his case differs slightly from other infamous serial killers. Many other killers take one of three paths: They either deny it to their grave (John Wayne Gayce), They confess but blame their actions on others or their upbringing (Ted Bundy), or they confess and brag about it (H. H. Holmes). Because afterall, their murders are the only notable thing they've ever done or will ever do. Dahmer differs in that he confessed, but he didn't boast. He simply admitted it all matter-of-factly. He didn't diffuse blame. He owned it. And willingly took his victim's family's hate upon himself, simply because he felt that's the only way he could come even close to making amends. Whether or not this means he showed remorse is debatable. Afterall, psychopaths tend to be very good at faking emotions that they can't really feel. but if there's any scrap, any shred, any speck of respect that can be found for this man, I would say it was in his willingness to own his actions. And openly attack any attempt to divert the blame away from himself.
***** Certainly not. He knew what he was doing was wrong. Which is why he admitted that he was relieved to be arrested. And he said he felt it was best for society if he remained locked away forever. He knew he was too dangerous to let roam free, which is why when the police came for him, he let them right in and went with no protest. He is not honorable. He is not good. He is evil. But he did own up to it and did not boast. Which I find slightly good. But that's just an example of how even the most awful of people can at times do something good.
Ted bundy didn't blame anything on his upbringing, he maintains that he had a very good upbringing, by loving parents. And he didn't blame his addiction to porn, he merely pointed that it was a common trait amongst violent criminals.
artawesome30 Haven't read that. But I did read Dark Journey, Deep Grace, which was written by the pastor who claims to have witnessed Dahmer's apparent religious conversion while in prison
***** Oh. Pffft! I feel like an idiot! Well, you should really read it! It's a graphic novel. One of the most captivating I've ever read. It's an autobiography about a guy who was friends with jeff in high school. It was really interesting to get a first look into jeff's adolescent years. Derf Backderf... splendid author.
Ok so I’ve been reading these comments of people saying “he couldn’t stop” or “he couldn’t help it” can you please stop defending him, he even said he knew he should’ve stopped. He killed and raped 17 BOYS! That’s a lot. He’s crazy and a murderer, so if you could, just don’t defend him
We will do whatever we want if you dont know the whole story or dont like reading comments like that then shut tf up b/tch (btw why are you even here reading those comments if you have a problem with them)
@@eirini684 dude what do you mean why your reading the comments she can do what she wants and how does she know if she has a problem with the comment with out reading you idiot like are you dumb 🤯🤯🤯
I think this is exactly why Jeff was, and still is considered to be the most fascinating serial killer. He never blamed anyone, or past traumas, he only blame himself, till the end. calm and collected, helped the police identify all of the victims, and cooperated as much as he could. Deep down, he was just not right in the head, and needed help. Sometimes I find myself even feeling a bit. Sorry for him. can't imagine the pain, the victims families and victims themselves had to endure.
Satan Except for his entire jaw and forehead. img2-1.timeinc.net/people/i/2014/video/141117/kurt-cobain-1024.jpg i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/04/27/article-2136122-0041517A00000258-843_468x575.jpg Dahmer has bit thicker lips and different shaped eyebrows. That's about it.
TheTechZone1 Dahmer's father was also with them. The interview was with Dahmer and his father, if you watch the full interview his father is sitting next to Jeff Dahmer.
Monsters look like every other average person, thus you just never know. Could be your neighbor, your mailman, the cashier at Kroger......one just never knows. When I think about it, it's chilling.
If you were to have 10 different people sit down and have a conversation with jeffrey dahmer and then ask them what type of personality jeffrey has, you would probably get 10 different answers.
Dark Child I believe Dahmer was caught around 1991, Death Metal was becoming very popular around that time. It was still mostly underground, but MTV (the MTV that existed then) did give it some support.
Dark Child The Real World reality show on MTV started in 1992, so yes, they were well on their way to total "cunty-ness" back then. Final nail in the coffin was around 1997, after that, music was close to non-existant on the channel.
You can see the lack of empathy or feeling in his eyes, the deadness and stillness that enables him to talk so calmly and convincingly. I almost felt sorry for him when he talked about his parents, and that was the only time where I saw a genuine glimmer of humanity. Such a shame, as you get the feeling he would have been a nice person if he wasn't a psychopath.
Just finished reading My Friend, Dahmer. Damn. I don't empathize with him because of what he did, but there is a sense of sadness knowing his father, mother, teachers, and neighbors noticed him like they'd notice an ant on the sidewalk. He wasn't even a wallflower. He was the covered wall. I can't imagine that isolation and lack of love.
Fascinating! To think such an insane specimen like Jeffrey Dahmer could exist for himself only with no moral consideration of his victims--and this was just an average joe with little power. One must then wonder, how far up the ladder does the problem of psychopathy really reach?
Interesting question. I decided to Google it and found an article on Forbes titled "Why (some) Psychopaths Make Great CEOs". The guy bases his story on Robert Hare's Psychopathy Checklist, which is a standard that law enforcement uses to profile with. Interesting article - but I'm thinking that a psychopath would really have to walk a very fine line if he was coming up thru the corporate world the old fashion way, from the mail room up. If he started at middle management or had family money to begin his own business, it could be very likely - but the psychopathic mind set would have to be to ruthless in business instead of wanting actually kill people. Though, that probably could happen if he wanted to get people out of the way of the what he wants.
Pretty far, I'd say - upper echelons of corporate management are often full of backstabbers and egomaniacs. Those people can also get with a lot of things that any corporate drone wouldn't be able to get away with - sometimes they even get rewarded for it.
b hix Two words - American Psycho :-) I think that book and movie lays it all out fairly well - even though its fiction, I'd imagine that such people exist.
Ilya S I haven't read that book. Might have seen the movie, don't recall. K, Wiki'd it and nope didn't see it. But yep, there are people born that have certain "chips" missing in their brains that make then think it is perfectly acceptable for them to cross that line and commit those acts that only a rabid beast would commit, but then allow them to function in regular society for years before they are ever caught...and sometimes never caught, like in the case of the Zodiac Killer.
What is sad is our culture cultivated the monster that was dormant inside him. No one showed him love which is the only thing to save us from the monster inside us all.
thats not true. he lived with his grandma for a long time and she was an absolute sweetheart to him and he still killed people even in her own house. dont justify this or think if you love someone like him it'll help. of course it might. but these people are not like u and i, their thoughts and desires are MUCH MUCH stronger than anything else. its all they really want. he wanted to do this. No one can really help a deeply and outrageously sick person, you will only waste your damn time.
I truly believe that he did not feel any remorse for his crimes, due to the fundamental reason that he didn't understand the value of life, not even his own. He was suicidal, and when he was incarcerated, he admitted to "not caring what happened to him" to his mother. He felt despicable but I doubt he could truly understand just how despicable his crimes were because life wasn't very important to him. Even in this video, he talks about everything he did in such a nonchalant manner; like there is nothing to hide.
Oh, definitely. It doesn't even feel as if he had anger doing what he was doing. As if he was simply numb to all feelings and went about it like it was nothing. He knew he did something wrong, there's something different in that though from actually feeling he did something wrong.
Laura M i bleave he felt something during it if you read my comment at the top and tell me what you think? and also he should of been given help as he also did it to keep close to people.
Elisa A It's called sociopathy, you'll find that most serial killers have this. They feel no remorse for anything, they lack empathy for anyone or anything. You are damn right he didn't feel remorse though. His fellow inmates reported he used to shape his prison lunch into the shape of limbs to taunt the people who worked there, and use ketchup as blood splatter. He did not care, those people didn't matter to him.
if you watch the video you can see clearly that he was sad for what he did, I study micro expressions and I can read how people feel I have been doing this for about 2 years now and have a degree in this now. if he was a psychopath or anything like that I would not be able to read him like that but he's not he wanted to feel close to people he was a vary lonely man. For an example his first victim was a young lad that he felt close to while picking him up on a highway. but when he wanted to leave he lost it and he killed him by MISTAKE. all he wanted to do is knock him out so he can keep him. Sounds weird but he was ill like that. thanks for your opinion :)
I feel this sympathy for Jeffrey, not because of what he did to the innocent people… but there is something about him that makes me sad for him. Ive seen many documentaries on him and the process he went through in jail.. he was civil and if anything scared. He didn't know what he was doing was necessarily wrong… i don't know, i sound crazy defending him but he was to be a harmless guy to the many who WERENT his victims. I DONT KNOW. i just feel horrible because he knew he had urges but he didn't know why, he spent 9 years trying to repress them with alcohol but couldn't. He was trapped in himself and in his mind.. unable to get help & thats sad to me
What I find interesting is the way he defends his parents. He seems to genuinely care about them. I've seen an interview with his father, it was clear Dahmer was raised in a normal household with loving parents
Courage? Not sure, courage usually means you overcome your fear--what fear did he have? He was caught cold, nothing to gain by keeping the details to himself. Not sure that is a courageous act, to admit what was known?
It freaks me out that he lived within 25 miles of me when this was going on. My dad was driving past when they were removing one of the coolers from his house. Nobody knew then but afterwards of course we figured it out what was in there. I can't imagine doing such a thing but I think that Jeff was smart for taking responsibility and addmitting to everything. Impressive yet scary.
His parents' divorce was granted on July 24, 1978, after each charged the other with "extreme cruelty and gross neglect of duty." And yet, he says his parents had NO PLAY in what he'd become. Talk about *STOCKHOLM SYNDROME,* eh!!!
May 27: Konerak Sinthasomphone, 14. The younger brother of the boy Dahmer had assaulted in 1988. Sinthasomphone was drugged and had muriatic acid injected into his brain before Dahmer left the youth unattended as he left the apartment to purchase beer. When he returned, he discovered Sinthasomphone naked and disoriented in the street, with three hysterical young women attempting to assist him. When police arrived, Dahmer persuaded them he and Sinthasomphone were lovers and that the youth was simply intoxicated. When police left Sinthasomphone with Dahmer in his apartment, Dahmer again injected muriatic acid into Sinthasomphone's brain, and this proved fatal. His head was retained in the freezer and his body dismembered.
I mean I get that he didn't do well in the last years of school, but his dad was a chemist and he seems pretty bright/well spoken. Injecting acid into holes in peoples skulls and expecting them to become zombies? Yet he is considered to be totally sane at that time and entirely responsible and in control of his actions? Come on.
As illogical as it may be, the missing thing needed for him to be considered "insane" (as far as the law is concerned) is that you don't realize that what you're doing is wrong/illegal.
punkybrewstar83 Yeah, like most people I think the law here is silly. And if someone is judged to be insane, they go to a mental hospital, which might or might not be better than jail.
It is probably worse in a lot of ways, but if he is borderline then that is an internal hell too. He would have got some treatment and some protection in a mental hospital anyway.
punkybrewstar83 I'm not sure how old you guys are, but he was captured around my 24th birthday so I was paying attention to the news. I was sorta into crime stories at the time, so I read everything I could on it. He knew right from wrong. He told one of the arresting officers that was looking at the pictures he had taken of his victims "For what I did I should be dead." They began his interrogation on July 23 1991 (which was my birthday) and he confessed, waived his right to an attorney present during the confession saying he "created this horror and it only makes sense I do everything to put an end to it." He was completely sane and KNEW what he was doing was wrong. that is why he was not sent to a mental hospital. The same thing can be said about Timothy McVeigh, the guy that bombed the Federal building in Oklahoma City - that he had to be crazy to kill all those people. But he wasn't. He knew what he was doing. Only thing that really ticked me off about his sentence is that he refused to appeal and they executed him right away. He wanted to be executed and I was so pissed off by what he had done, I didn't want him to have what he wanted, I wanted his ass to rot in a jail for years to come, in lock down 23/7. allowed only 1 hour of time outside per week by himself.
In my opinion, he was the only serial killer to claim responsibility for his crimes. He didn't deflect blame. Although what he did took sick and twisted to the next level
Exactly serial killers didn't ever exist,these people most of all men and a few women too were basically innocent law enforcement officers-whistleblowers,who revealed crimes,affairs of real mass murderers it means former, insane, inhumane, cruel, oppressive-repressive, totalitarian regime of USA and were punished, tortured, defamed by former regime of USA
The scariest part is how honest he is. He literally admitted that his parents have nothing to do with his actions; He killed people just because wanted to, nothing more and nothing less.
If they are never interviewed, they will never be understood. They may become infamous but I find that a small price to pay for any knowledge about psychopathy we might gain from them.
he is human, and I think this video very clearly shows he is actually a pretty normal guy who has some really really fucked up sides. people like him need to be shown to us, it needs to be public knowledge so those who are like him can be helped BEFORE they commit the crimes. rather than locking up regretful criminals, we should take time to prevent it from happening to start with
I am fascinated by the urge to understand him and feel compasion becuase of his calm and reasonoable voice. It is like a part of me thinks he is a nice guy even though I know he is a sociopath who cant control himself.
This is one of the great questions of psychology. Words like "insane," while important in a court of law, will probably only cloud your understanding: a mind is far too complex a thing to reduce to simple labels like "insane". The short answer is that, in Dahmer's mind, sex and violence became deeply entangled. In this light, it's not too hard to understand his experience: our brains are wired in such a way that the sex drive is almost impossible to overcome. (I know a few people would disagree with this, but they tend to come from organizations that are constantly embroiled in child abuse scandals, so it's hard to take them seriously.) I would bet almost all adults can relate to having a sexual experience that led them to feel guilty, ashamed or regretful afterward. Between a quarter and half or married adults have affairs, and I'd wager that almost all of them feel guilty about it. Fortunately, most of us don't have sexual desires that lead us to seriously harm other people. What Dahmer did was horrifying and unjustifiable, but his story is a also tragic one not just for the victims, but for him as well. Perhaps it's best that he was killed. It protected the innocent and put a profoundly broken human out of his misery. (Unfortunately, psychologists could have learned a lot had he lived, as he was open and conscientious about his crimes.)
He is "insane" i guess, he was a psychopath. Generally psychopaths don't feel remorse and guilt the same way that we do, and they also tend to act much more impulsively (as you can see he said that the second time wasn't planned) so when he thinks of something that arouses him, its very hard for him to fight the urge. Very unfortunate but utterly fascinating
FrickenPope Psychopaths don't feel guilt. So I don't think he is one. Probably just an extreme sadist that let his need for pleasure take over him and make him go so far as to kill so many people.
I don't understand why people are commenting and saying he feels guilty for what he's done, so clearly he's not a sociopath. While I don't know if he is one or not, he never comes out and says he feels guilty for his crimes. He does not come off as remorseful whatsoever -- all he says is that he takes responsibility for his actions. Biiig difference. Hell, a lot of killers dislike it when people blame their actions on others, mostly because THEY want the attention, THEY want people to know what they've done. I don't think it's accurate to say he feels guilty for what he's done. He would have NEVER stopped on his own. I'm glad he's gone.
I've had people tell me, when I showed them a picture of Jeffrey Dhamer in court, that he looked hot. I was like, "WTF". But instead, out of pure humor, I said: "I can't disagree." Then they started to call me out. Humor can get you into various situations.
He was clearly very insane. He couldn't have any feelings to do all that he did. He couldn't love or have feelings for anyone, he basically just wanted to have a sex slave, like a living doll he could completely control, 'cause he was so obsessed with controlling men; and whom he could permanently keep with him at all costs, as he was so afraid of abandonment and loneliness. He only saw men as sexual objects, like simple sex toys, and not as people with feelings. He was so selfish, he didn't care about these guys feelings, dreams, the whole life they had ahead of them. All he cared about what himself and fulfilling his sick sexual fantasies. He was truly a MONSTER
People mention how jeff looks different in every interview and picture, that because the interviews and pictures span 2 decades, most interviews are years apart, so it’s not shocking to think your physical appearance changes over many years From the trial to this interview was 4 years
I understand punishment for crimes that you do, but how is jail even helping or doing anything for people like Jeffrey Dahmer etc. ? Don't you think they would be better off being studied in a mental health facility, or something equivalent ? Yes, you go to jail for killing someone/people but then what, no psychiatric help, nothing . They should be punished but also mentally helped .
rhoads' girl well in our country the jury decides the punishment and the jury decided he was SANE , not mentally ill. That’s why. Believe me people thought this was a huge deal then but it’s much more of a popular topic now. Nobody at the time was like “we have to study him he’s gonna be one of the most famous serial killers”. It’s just now looking back that we’ve learned so much about serial killers from him that people now have a bigger interest in him. It was a different time, even though it wasn’t THAAAT long ago.
There’s no point in helping at that point and he was sane when doing this. He’s just a messed up man. Not everyone has the chance to get better, he could have gotten better before it all started but after it’s too late. Jail isn’t suppose to help Dahmer, nothing SHOULD help him. It was for the comfort of the victims families and safety of the public, not for rehabilitation
