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Jehovah's Witnesses and the Slide Into Televangelism (featuring forgotten leaked video!) 

Lloyd Evans
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(Cedars' vlog no. 302) In the 1980s, Jehovah's Witnesses considered televangelists to be "materialistic charlatans" who had forsaken "true Christian ministry" for the glare of the spotlights. By 2014, they had set up their own broadcasting operation and recently unveiled plans for a media production center to be completed in 2026. With the help of a forgotten leaked video, I chart the organization's slide into becoming what it once condemned.
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Комментарии : 941   
@erichminkle1167
@erichminkle1167 5 лет назад
So the end is right around the corner when kids want to go to college.. but it’s not when they want to build a production mecca???
@cosylife4936
@cosylife4936 5 лет назад
Erich Minkle I can only assume WT believe their buildings will withstand God’s great day...But yes so annoying
@dantoinettetaylor1663
@dantoinettetaylor1663 3 года назад
@@cosylife4936 Hearing Governing Body member saying that although the project will take 6 years JWs should still have a sense of urgency. The elder handling the part claimed that the site will be needed in the new system to teach survivors and resurrected ones. Pioneers in the congregation commented how eager they were to be teaching in the new system using the materials. It was crazy. I decided that either the GB was deluded or deliberately misleading us about the end being near. I was mentally out from that moment.
@RJNiemski
@RJNiemski 3 года назад
Exactly...and "don't raise families in this system of things"! Seriously?! No time for us, time enough for them! "Do as I say, not as I do".
@ThatGirl0930
@ThatGirl0930 3 года назад
They very well know that they can shape peoples thinking and beliefs with the power of movies, just like the fakery of nasa with their huge pool with the lieSS mock up as well as their huge production studio. Liars, all of them.
@jeffreybungle457
@jeffreybungle457 5 лет назад
1925 “millions now living will never die” 2025 “let’s build a f@cking ginormous film studio”
@jasmineduran6731
@jasmineduran6731 5 лет назад
Jeffrey Bungle I know right? Where did they go wrong? Imagine if Rutherford and Russel were alive to see this. I wonder how furious they would’ve been. 🤔
@robajzrobajzovity8474
@robajzrobajzovity8474 5 лет назад
@@jasmineduran6731 frankly speaking, I do not wish Rutherford to be alive again ;-)
@jasmineduran6731
@jasmineduran6731 5 лет назад
Myrm Ants I think they both took the organization more seriously, especially Russel.
@jasmineduran6731
@jasmineduran6731 5 лет назад
Beverly Harward Yeah, that’s true. And I’m not taking sides with the organization; I’m just wondering how the former leaders would think. At least Charles would be against all this...maybe.
@jennieh9300
@jennieh9300 5 лет назад
Best comment! First thing I thought of when I started watching this! It's actually quite infuriating. How can the people sitting at these kh's hear this and not question that!
@karrey1000
@karrey1000 5 лет назад
6 year project for their future. Same amount of time a kid would need in college for their future 🤔 Always a double standard.
@caligo7918
@caligo7918 5 лет назад
They are spouting this nonsense oficially since 1969. The watchtower said, you would not finish your degree. 1975 worked out great, didn't it? Well, for us on the outside at least ;)
@TarquinMelnyk
@TarquinMelnyk 5 лет назад
✊🏼 Word.
@TheGoddess8787
@TheGoddess8787 5 лет назад
Great point!
@2446Ann
@2446Ann 5 лет назад
Wow! Brilliant point! Isn't 6 years long enough for both a Bachelor's and Master's degree? I guess those last days AREN'T around the corner after all.
@lelacopper5084
@lelacopper5084 5 лет назад
You all can say what you want to say. But I am happy to be one of Jehovah's Witnesses in this organization. Our brothers and sisters love each other world wide. We strive to be the best that we can be and to love our fellow man. In these dark days of so much hate and Chaos I'm happy to say that I am at peace with myself and others. You can who hate Jehovah's Witnesses but I guarantee we will never hate you. We are happy and United. Every religion has there issues. But one thing is for sure we are trying to do the right thing and we have love in our hearts.
@blacksheep4060
@blacksheep4060 5 лет назад
6 year project. So the end is not that imminent then!
@marshajanulis6092
@marshajanulis6092 5 лет назад
I had the same thought...its chilling
@superbinniebros6372
@superbinniebros6372 5 лет назад
AW Some exactly what I was thinking
@jasmineduran6731
@jasmineduran6731 5 лет назад
AW Some exactly! And yet they tell us to keep a simple eye when they’re building better things for themselves! If the end was near, they wouldn’t be doing this. They should at least practice what they preach.
@adanlucio1548
@adanlucio1548 5 лет назад
Now they'll look really stupid in bunkers
@GG-kv8vv
@GG-kv8vv 5 лет назад
EXACTLY
@BB-pu9ur
@BB-pu9ur 4 года назад
I am 23 years old, born and raised a witness. I officially stopped going to meetings after the 2015 International Convention that was being held in Seattle. I remember sitting there, miserable and sunburned, and watching Stephen Lett give the main talk. I was utterly baffled by his facial expressions, but the image that will never leave my mind was his gold pinky ring. Somehow everything just clicked in that moment, I was almost 19 and I just knew it was a facade. Thank you Stephen for stumbling right out of this bat shit crazy "religion"
@Ghost_Of_SAS
@Ghost_Of_SAS 5 лет назад
"Don't have kids, the end is near! Donate their college fund to our long term real estate investments instead."
@charlenewatkins9126
@charlenewatkins9126 5 лет назад
Same shit different day what a bunch of ,oh that’s right shit.
@Ghost_Of_SAS
@Ghost_Of_SAS 5 лет назад
@Blue Skeptic Really, what does it say? I'm waiting for them to do a 180 on the no children principle because they'll be running out of money and will need paying customers in 18 to 20 years.
@Ghost_Of_SAS
@Ghost_Of_SAS 5 лет назад
@Blue Skeptic I wonder if they're eventually going to drop the end of the world stuff entirely and focus on the "it's the best way to live" message, recycling themselves Scientology style.
@weakanklesfornamjoon
@weakanklesfornamjoon 5 лет назад
The parallels with Scientology continues to grow. Same playbook.
@JanineRupp697
@JanineRupp697 5 лет назад
I felt the same way when I worked up at Wallkill..as a teenager we had no idea that we were actually being groomed for slave labor for a publishing company.
@nickking8994
@nickking8994 5 лет назад
I don't even know this "religion " anymore.... cart witnessing, TV programming, cartoons, overlapping generations and the governing body are underwhelming to say the least....... What a thing to watch unfolding. Thanks Lloyd!
@rayleighfrance9753
@rayleighfrance9753 5 лет назад
Nick K same here :/ the comics!!! The dramas so dark and intense as Hollywood movies at conventions. Everything crazy! My grandfather was horrified when the broadcast started :/
@theruddz5011
@theruddz5011 5 лет назад
Don’t forget a knock off super mario video game 🤦🏻‍♀️
@nickking8994
@nickking8994 5 лет назад
....... what video game???
@theruddz5011
@theruddz5011 5 лет назад
Nick K there is a knock off super Mario game , but it’s with Caleb and Sofia. I’ll look for the link
@nickking8994
@nickking8994 5 лет назад
@@theruddz5011 no please dont....
@jessicacortes7201
@jessicacortes7201 5 лет назад
So I guess we can hold off on Armageddon for at least 6 more years lol
@charlenewatkins9126
@charlenewatkins9126 5 лет назад
Well ya Harm N Get Them ,wow us apostates can take a breather and live a bit longer,gee thanks WTBTS and your “loving provision”
@suras8984
@suras8984 5 лет назад
@@dawnemile4974 It was probably an extra role.
@user-py3gh6bc2x
@user-py3gh6bc2x 5 лет назад
Armageddon can't come until everyone has heard and has had an opportunity to respond to the Good News ... new born babies, mentally ill persons, persons without the ability to speak, developmentally-delayed, incarcerated ... somehow the Watchtower will know the exact moment when the battle can begin. It's so silly.
@RitaMalikfour
@RitaMalikfour 4 года назад
No one knows except our God the date or hour of Armageddon so any more assumptions of when is fake , I do know from the bible the tribulation comes before Armageddon, how long the tribulation is we don’t know anyways, Armageddon could come now or in five hundred years, the guessing is sickening
@RitaMalikfour
@RitaMalikfour 4 года назад
I would not watch religion , I don’t even believe in religion, my love for God and Jesus us in my heart, not from men or tv or a church ( k h) didn’t matter , my heart is all that matters, not beggi g for money, God didn’t need money,
@dttocs4746
@dttocs4746 5 лет назад
1988 - " why are you starting a apprenticeship you will never finish it before Armageddon" 2018 " We have a 8 year plan'
@nsplude5150
@nsplude5150 4 года назад
I heard that one in 1985 when I went through my apprenticeship also. Tried to make me feel bad yet they sure could use my knowledge later on
@leewilliams1610
@leewilliams1610 5 лет назад
I can't go to a 4 year University but they can build a multi million dollar facility in 6 years? That is so unfair, imagine thinking the world is gonna end. Couldn't be me lol
@lorielhassani
@lorielhassani 3 года назад
Also take acting classes, but throw that little boy's violin away...
@kilroyescalante3173
@kilroyescalante3173 Год назад
Lett is a total clown,talks like he's talking to kids.
@dennisl.8370
@dennisl.8370 5 лет назад
They are getting so crazy.Not the religion I was raised in.Glad I left over 20 years ago.Thanks for your hard work Lloyd.
@leahmelton5776
@leahmelton5776 3 года назад
totally agree. Growing up in the 70s-80s, I would not have recognized any Governing Member if I passed them on the street. So weird now....
@stephstevens2
@stephstevens2 Год назад
I was born in the 90s, raised in it and after years of doubt I was finally able to leave in early 2013. Since leaving, so much has changed and it wasn't even THAT long ago.
@christinepierce8592
@christinepierce8592 Год назад
I got kicked out when I was 16. Smooth going JWs, just what a 16 year-old girl in a small town needs to learn how to appreciate Jehovah. I won't even elaborate on the judicial committee of grown men who took part in my kick out. I thought my experience was unique, an outlier. I cannot adequately express how my heart hurts for JW children, women and so many men just trapped. And the guy reading the testimonial letters? What in the actual is up with is cartoonish facial and vocal exaggerated expressions ? How embarrassing! At least TRY not to be patronizing.
@stephstevens2
@stephstevens2 Год назад
@@christinepierce8592 I'm so sorry you went through that and in some ways I think I can relate (dodgy judicial committee made up of my dad and his elder friends when I was 17). It's scarring. Stephen Lett! Apparently he doesn't usually speak like that in his day to day life but he thinks it's helpful for these videos? Well let's leave him to it. Maybe his on screen demeanor and strange words will help wake more people up 🤞
@darrylthompson7509
@darrylthompson7509 5 лет назад
They're the same ones always talking bad about televangelism. Hypocrites.
@nelsonseals489
@nelsonseals489 5 лет назад
Did you sever at Bethel...Brooklyn??? Name sounds familiar
@darrylthompson7509
@darrylthompson7509 5 лет назад
@@nelsonseals489 I never been to bethel. I just have a common name.
@dantoinettetaylor1663
@dantoinettetaylor1663 5 лет назад
It's suddenly OK now that the Governing Body says it's OK
@ABCn123
@ABCn123 5 лет назад
I tried reasoning with my mom exactly this point... how it was thought of as being disrespectful to Jehovah to be using electronics and TV as part of worship, and now how it's being embraced as if these thoughts never existed before. Her response: We're moving along with Jehovah's chariot and that's what he wants us to do because it's now the normal thing to do. *Total facepalm*
@maryannlockwood7806
@maryannlockwood7806 5 лет назад
123ABC 🤦🏻‍♀️
@terrestrialcelestial6516
@terrestrialcelestial6516 5 лет назад
Oh yeah I've gotten that same response from family...insert finger down throat lol
@kirstenornelas881
@kirstenornelas881 5 лет назад
Same discussion with my mother after my dad died from cancer only he actually bled to death over 2 days due to having no platelets left, brothers tell him oh no no platelets but you can have bone marrow if you make it that far. Fuck this I'm out, that's exactly when I walked away for good. 23 years (born in) before I woke up fully. I always had too many questions for their comfort tho.
@Lexiesmusic1
@Lexiesmusic1 5 лет назад
How unbelievably frustrating. It’s just wasted breath. They are completely and totally brain washed.
@Ugly_German_Truths
@Ugly_German_Truths 5 лет назад
But don't they claim divine revelation as base for all their rules? And god / Iehovah allegedly is prescient and prepared for all that is to come? Why then wasn't JW the most progressive, advanced christian denomination EVER? living to the standards in place when god wants to start his little genocidal project of Armageddon? it would have been easy for a god to "touch their minds2 so no JW was bothered with behaving freakish when compared to the morals of the general public...
@princesskimo2821
@princesskimo2821 5 лет назад
They got new light: teleevengalism is now OK
@karrey1000
@karrey1000 5 лет назад
Media center, more similarities to Scientology.
@skyisthelimit6612
@skyisthelimit6612 5 лет назад
Same as Mormons ... soon conventions will be on TV
@sarabailey-pouvi8080
@sarabailey-pouvi8080 5 лет назад
I live in the same town as the "Gold Base" headquarters for Scientology and once in a while our town will get a sneak peak of their production studios "Golden Era, which is definitely a creepy place! They dont let people into thier compound but next to it is a studio and golf course. They try to appeal to our community with different charity events, which at least is more then the Borg offers! The similarities between the Scientologists and the Borg is not only increasing it's becoming New World Order-ish!! Very frightening!
@michellem2042
@michellem2042 5 лет назад
SCARY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@barbaramullins4233
@barbaramullins4233 5 лет назад
A child abandoning birthdays, holidays and possibly being abused at the same time. What a great recipe for depression, sadness and hopelessness...which is the perfect recipe for a cult to gain mind control. These poor children.
@bruderk4257
@bruderk4257 5 лет назад
Even without beeing abused it was bad enough, i can tell you. Even here in germany, where i think things go a little easier than in the US.
@Jeff21212
@Jeff21212 5 лет назад
I was robbed of my child hood back in the 70's, quit believing in this carp when i was about 10 or 11. Got kicked out of my house when i was 16, best thing that ever happen to me.
@Brandon-wl1wv
@Brandon-wl1wv 5 лет назад
Honestly, the not celebrating holidays makes a lot of sense and is overlooked by a lot of people. They are all pagan 🤷‍♂️
@bruderk4257
@bruderk4257 5 лет назад
@@Brandon-wl1wv Yes, indeed they are. And i am pagan too. And so i celebrate.
@Brandon-wl1wv
@Brandon-wl1wv 5 лет назад
@@bruderk4257 So glad you just come out and say it. Even tho I'm an ex JW, I don't celebrate holidays due to their pagan origins. A lot of people like to use it against me to argue I'm "still a jw" 😂 but it's so blatantly obvious it would be inappropriate for a Christian to celebrate them.
@willyb933
@willyb933 5 лет назад
Really appreciated Lett's comment @ 59:00. Some (Worldly) Companies will use you and then just let you go when no longer needed. Really? As opposed to the Borg who will use you (maybe you will be blessed with 30 hr shifts without sleep) free of any financial compensation Pension or health benefits and... at the end, when you get old, c'ya!
@Mel..............
@Mel.............. 4 года назад
Yes, I notice the projection too. They narcissistically accuse you of what they are doing themselves.
@Mel..............
@Mel.............. 4 года назад
The "companies will use you" is them projecting what they are doing
@maggiemae4584
@maggiemae4584 5 лет назад
I think they are going to start putting it on mainstream TV at 3am like Jimmy Swaggart did for years. They will be begging for money from all the elderly watching TV all night.
@floydkelley3
@floydkelley3 5 лет назад
They do have a Roku channel
@floydkelley3
@floydkelley3 5 лет назад
@@randyg.7940 I'm afraid so
@floydkelley3
@floydkelley3 5 лет назад
@@randyg.7940 That's what it's looking like
@loriswitala942
@loriswitala942 5 лет назад
It will be the first day of the beginning of their undoing. I look forward to it! Look what happened to Jimmy Swagart and Jim Baker and his wife Tammy (a double wammy!). -sorry; a reference to her show. They will fall too. More people will eventually see what we know and they will be the talk of the USA.
@MJBsays
@MJBsays 5 лет назад
If I were still in, this one single point would be enough to make me exit. Those of us grown up in the jws in the 70s and 80s know so well how much bashing and shaming the WT was doing on televangelists. That was a particular point of pride for JWs in general, another way to be "different" to distance themselves from false religion. Now, they've become the same. #KingsOfHypocrisy
@bruderk4257
@bruderk4257 5 лет назад
Yes, even here in Germany they were bashing that electric church.
@theruddz5011
@theruddz5011 5 лет назад
A religion of hypocrisy
@kirstenornelas881
@kirstenornelas881 5 лет назад
I was born in 83 and was 4th gen JW and left 12 years ago. I too was shocked to hear this change because it was seen as such a horrible thing before. Idk what's going on with this religion now they seem to have gone off the rails.
@theruddz5011
@theruddz5011 5 лет назад
Kirsten Ornelas I was born in July of 83 too and raised a witness. Raised to think ‘we’ have the truth and are above all. I was so glad to wake up in 16.
@kirstenornelas881
@kirstenornelas881 5 лет назад
@@theruddz5011 thumbs up cuz I'm glad you got out too! Thankfully both of my brothers followed for their own reasons as well. I was blamed by family of course for setting such a bad example but they didn't even leave for the same reasons or at the same time I did. Honestly I think my youngest brother actually stopped first but only went to meetings cuz he was forced to, he says he never believed any of it though and hates everything about it and always has.
@bruderk4257
@bruderk4257 5 лет назад
So Stephen Lett says broadcasts save lives. Wrong, Mr. Lett. The John Cedars channel saves lives !
@stephenlett9208
@stephenlett9208 5 лет назад
I meant to say donations save lives. Broadcasts bring in donations so in a sense I was right.
@bruderk4257
@bruderk4257 5 лет назад
@@stephenlett9208 Well, sir, what you say has got some humor in it. But how do donations save lives ? Money makes YOUR life much more enjoyable, ok. And you made quite a living out of your witnesses.
@stephenlett9208
@stephenlett9208 5 лет назад
@@bruderk4257 my Watchtower owned Cadillac has been a real lifesaver! Governing Body members would never be seen driving a Cruze. Donations buy Cadillac's!
@lost2thedata168
@lost2thedata168 5 лет назад
They sure have changed since I was in the religion. Yikes.
@hindsightpov4218
@hindsightpov4218 5 лет назад
Soul Yeah. The JW organization now is even more creepy than it was before.
@lost2thedata168
@lost2thedata168 5 лет назад
That is seriously messed up. It was already crazy when I left as a teenager.
@hindsightpov4218
@hindsightpov4218 5 лет назад
Soul Hopefully that’ll be a wake up call to JWs who are still in that they need to get out because the creepiness was too much for them to handle. I know it was for me.
@lost2thedata168
@lost2thedata168 5 лет назад
HindsightPOV I hope it wakes them up.
@GG-kv8vv
@GG-kv8vv 5 лет назад
Truly disappointing and frightening!
@barbaramullins4233
@barbaramullins4233 5 лет назад
Paying for acting classes, paying for attorneys to go to law school...people WAKE up! It is a business ..window washers, attorneys, actors...money out of YOUR pocket to fulfill a corporations goal. By the way, any business has to have a mission statement to exist, nonprofit organizations that much more so. So what is the "mission statement"here? If they are not following mission statement, tax exempt status can be pulled. Can we look at their mission statement Loyd?
@jwapostasy
@jwapostasy 5 лет назад
Nice! I finally have a day to myself to watch one of your live segments. Very excited!, especially on this topic. The televangelism is really creeping me out, it was something I was proud we didn’t do when I was a Witness. Cringe 😬 af
@Sera-Marie
@Sera-Marie 5 лет назад
So many things to say. The way they are addressing this "internal" crowd vs the rank and file actually churned my stomach a bit. It's like they are all in on one big joke. No wonder so many bethelites leave, and it's no wonder the pillows at Bethel should come with a Health warning. Workers must be so stressed and frustrated, they have to relieve it somehow. Working 30 hours straight to get a project finished is frankly a disturbing report, if they had been a regular company they would have been reprimanded by a workers rights body. What we have here is a religious culty organisation without any of the actual organisation. The fact that they change their minds so flippantly depending on who is making up the membership of the GB proves that they are not God's representatives on earth, as surely his message/instructions would not change? I am also pretty disgusted that after pleading poverty twice, and systematically pilfering all it can out of each congregation by asking for a monthly commitment from each one, taking over deeds combining congregations, and selling them off for their own financial gain... That they are spunking so much money into this project, I understand that they are consolidating multiple smaller studios, but wow! It also annoys me that clearly this will be a very technical place, which means they will be sending people they choose to go and get qualifications and tertiary education. Everyone else can go hang!
@phantomlegend6167
@phantomlegend6167 5 лет назад
Wait they work bethelites 30 hours straight some times?
@user-py3gh6bc2x
@user-py3gh6bc2x 5 лет назад
They seem to believe that just because they are not yelling, sweating and writhing across the platform that this is not televangelism! A few short years ago they had the rank and file so afraid of using Satan's tool the internet that older women in the congregations wouldn't even touch a computer. Now in the Kingdom Hall you no longer hear the rustle of bible pages being turned during a talk because everyone is using an e-tablet.
@dpjp352
@dpjp352 5 лет назад
52:49 What gall Lett has. "You can work your heart out for some company, and they just dismiss you, and there's really no appreciation. But Jehovah, what you do for him, he really appreciates it and we try to reflect that appreciation." How many Bethelites have they tossed to the curb with no money, no benefits, and slim prospects when the org didn't need them any more?
@xplorerfree2749
@xplorerfree2749 5 лет назад
Their target are young minds. No study, analysis or reasoning anymore, just emotions.
@rayleighfrance9753
@rayleighfrance9753 5 лет назад
xplorer so different than it used to :/
@MsCaleb79
@MsCaleb79 5 лет назад
xplorer free, just like Greta Thunberg, she’s dangerous
@josevaldez1554
@josevaldez1554 4 года назад
I think your right xplorer, they will be churning out videos/giving "talks" (aka speeches) designed to appeal to viewers emotions
@Maroon_Ivory
@Maroon_Ivory 5 лет назад
Amazing video....I remember going in service and people having the TV on in the background watching a Church Sermon and when we left the pioneer or whoever I was working with would say...."Look at prophecy being fulfilled....They are foresaking the gathering of themselves together". I'm beyond grateful to have my mind, body, and soul back to where it belongs.
@EfrainRiveraJunior
@EfrainRiveraJunior 5 лет назад
I want to thank the Governing Body for the monthly Broadcasts. They helped me wake up.
@stephaniejacobs2281
@stephaniejacobs2281 5 лет назад
LOL $10 donation. My single mother on welfare gave $50 a week putting us under severe financial strain and prioritised donations over bills and food.
@stephenlett9208
@stephenlett9208 5 лет назад
We really appreciate the sacrifices that you made so that your mother could pay forward the good work of the Kingdom. Jehovah made sure that everything worked out for your family. See, it works.
@stephenlett9208
@stephenlett9208 5 лет назад
@@randyg.7940 Wednesday night is poker night in Warwick. Tony buys the whiskey because he's a authority on it. His wife really enjoys Jamiesons
@chentefernandez1399
@chentefernandez1399 5 лет назад
John, been feeling the pressure lately. Thank you for being there thru your videos
@ronslaughterandalice1018
@ronslaughterandalice1018 5 лет назад
I personally am extremely angry with ME for allowing myself to be duped and throwing away so many years listening and putting up with the WT. And feel for all those stuck going around the crazy tree with them at this time and don't know how to free themselves.
@BG-nm5xt
@BG-nm5xt Год назад
Please don't be so hard on yourself, it's like getting out of an abusive relationship with many people, friends and family, only with even more abusive mind control. It can take people years to start to think independently and then have the courage to walk away!
@byebyewatchtower
@byebyewatchtower 5 лет назад
More Watchtower howdy-doodie. Wonderful! I could careless about their Bollywood Studios. Are they going to build an Amusement Park next? I can't wait to ride the Caleb and Sophia roller coaster.
@Ugly_German_Truths
@Ugly_German_Truths 5 лет назад
Phrasing... "riding" two children is the least association WT needs now :-p
@byebyewatchtower
@byebyewatchtower 5 лет назад
@@Ugly_German_Truths true that.
@charlenewatkins9126
@charlenewatkins9126 5 лет назад
Bye! Bye! Watchtower Not a fan of roller coasters hope they have bumper cars!
@jessicaa.6690
@jessicaa.6690 5 лет назад
I already rode the Watchtower rollercoaster. It wasn't a fun ride.
@loriswitala942
@loriswitala942 5 лет назад
Bye! Bye! Watchtower - Actually, they will start building school for children so they won’t be influenced anymore by worldly children!
@joehinojosa8314
@joehinojosa8314 5 лет назад
No more "door to door" cos in Telaevangelism you DONT have to ANSWER the householders Questions,objections,arguments.
@deborahd4310
@deborahd4310 5 лет назад
Does Watchtower forget what they have written a few decades back? By the way, Lloyd, love your videos. I've been out for a long time but good to keep up to their nonsense to see what my JW family are buying into each month. Who knows maybe if they ever want to talk about it I will know what they are talking about.
@jwsuicidesjwsuicides1920
@jwsuicidesjwsuicides1920 5 лет назад
Yeah I feel similar to you. As watching a few jw rebuttal sites regular I know that I'm more knowledgeable about the shady side + the nuts + bolts that every Borg gets to know MORE THAN THEM. So I can talk with confidence to my mum + the other thousand jw's that I know, as I was a born in,but never baptized. Wow the truth hurts when a bit of reality about their cult is dropped into conversation.
@Ugly_German_Truths
@Ugly_German_Truths 5 лет назад
As far as i remember past videos Lloyd has made they not only love to forget, they also prefer it if they can YOU make forget like with revising print material and pretending the old versions never existed... I vividly remember times where "John Cedar" was worried that with the switch from collectible books to online ressources whitewashing of JW history would become so much easier as you'd only be able to access the revised versions and sooner or later the old texts would be forgotten.
@southernbawselady7092
@southernbawselady7092 5 лет назад
Ohhh this is going to be a good one! I'm getting a "new" 💇 hair do and a "new" outfit for the "new" light show! 👗👡👒👜😆
@southernbawselady7092
@southernbawselady7092 5 лет назад
Beverly Harward - Ok, I will get this nice sparkling one...👛 L😂L!
@kirstenornelas881
@kirstenornelas881 5 лет назад
Hmm 2026. Them: no need for college cuz the end is near.
@snarkbotanya6557
@snarkbotanya6557 5 лет назад
That letter from a child in Northern Ireland that he read out seems highly suspicious. I could see a teacher of kindergarteners asking for birthday wishes from their students as part of a lesson, e.g. if they were using it to lead into "when is your birthday?" and learning the months of the year and how to use a calendar, but for ten-year-olds? On top of that, the style of writing is both more and less advanced than I would expect from a ten-year-old; the sentences are so short and choppy they seem like they could be written by a first-grader, and yet there's a pretty clear arc to the letter, complete with an introduction and conclusion. Considering all that plus the tendency of proselytizers to tell outrageous stories about teachers in public schools and universities, I would not be surprised if this letter and its author turned out to be fictional, or at least heavily edited.
@user-py3gh6bc2x
@user-py3gh6bc2x 5 лет назад
It's okay to use re-fashioned childhood reasonings motivated by their normal desire for acceptance, and fed by relentless indoctrination to justify and validate billion dollar expenditures that bring no benefit to the rank and file.
@annderby6295
@annderby6295 3 года назад
My same thoughts exactly! From I heard the first word, I knew it was a made-up letter.
@rayleighfrance9753
@rayleighfrance9753 5 лет назад
Hi Lloyd! Big step for me, I’m just now starting to comment. Anyways! What a great video, I’m just sitting here like “wow, just wow” when the cartoons and comics came out my grandpa was SHOCKED and my family hated them. So offending. To hear all this, casting calls, just wow.... sickening At 53:00 mark, how dare lett say “in a company they just dismiss you..” when they do the same exact thing, ice cold. I have elderly friends oversees who got dismissed and they were scrambling, he’s highly intelligent and gave his life to bethel, and now that they’re old they get the boot. Wow what white washing.
@steann1
@steann1 5 лет назад
Of course the dubs have to go all Hollywood... .. they’ve seen how money pours in via the internet donations for televangelists and they just couldn’t resist but dip their hands into the money pit.
@dwalex97209
@dwalex97209 5 лет назад
Like I was telling Lloyd, I can't help but wonder if they're going to start creating TV shows (besides the monthly snore fest they call JW Broadcasting) just for the Witnesses. Drama and sitcoms inspired by Jehovah. Imagine that, folks.
@steann1
@steann1 5 лет назад
@@dwalex97209 .. Yep... everything is from satan..until they start doing it...then its a provision from the hoover.
@samboychip1
@samboychip1 5 лет назад
@@steann1 Nailed it....
@ashgreen9044
@ashgreen9044 5 лет назад
Before we left they WERE using credit cards to get you to pay regularly and conveniently soooooo YOU don't feel bad because you forgot to donate at the hall. We were amazed they had implemented C/C at the assemblies for convenience (mainly theirs).
@clairenollet2389
@clairenollet2389 5 лет назад
At the end of the 6-year "spiritual journey" that saw me transition from devout Catholic to atheist, I was pretty angry at the leaders of my church. After all, they were professional theologians and Bible scholars. I had acquired what I would call only a rudimentary theological and biblical education during those 6 years, and yet *I* had figured out that it was all hokum. Why hadn't THEY figured it out? Then it occurred to me -- they HAD figured it out, and were perpetrating this fraud so they could keep their jobs, instead of having to do real work for a living. There is gross cynicism on display in building not only the sprawling Warwick center, but now this giant media center that's going to take 6 years to complete. I thought the end of the world was "any day now"? My sister got visited by Jehovah's Witnesses in the early 1970s who begged her to get saved before the end of the world in 1975. Oops. The world didn't end in 1975. But it's REALLY going to end -- any minute now! It's obvious that the leaders of the JW organization don't believe the world is going to end any minute. If they did, they'd invest money in non-perishable food so the righteous could survive the tribulation until the survivors could grow those magical gardens you see in all the Watchtower videos, where pandas frolic next to the fruit trees. They wouldn't waste such a huge amount of time on a huge media center.
@Geohovahs_Hand
@Geohovahs_Hand 5 лет назад
Excellent points! And congratulations on your journey into reality. I think you're right. The JW Governing Body do not believe that the end is coming anytime soon. After all, would it make sense for billions of Chinese, Indians and Middle Easterners who haven't heard the JW message to be destroyed at Armageddon. They repeat the narrative that the end is just around the corner, to keep the sheep busy and focused on serving their interests. They know that if they tell the sheep that its going to take a long time to finish the preaching work, and that Armageddon is a ways off, the majority of the sheep will start slacking.
@lukasin3
@lukasin3 5 лет назад
Thank you so much. I’ve woken up 25 years ago, but my family just started shunning me in (guess what...) 2016....surprise surprise. Your channel helped me so much understanding why this happened after all this time. It is sad but I could let go. Followed the channel ever since and I sometimes fall off my chair with astonishment of what is happening in the JW organization. Thank you for informing us.
@davidgomez-wt7pn
@davidgomez-wt7pn 5 лет назад
That is so terrifying. Televangelism was definitely evil in the eyes on the JWs when I was in it as a kid. I mourn for those in my family that have chosen this cult over meaningful relationships and goals. It sounds like many more will be lost, and that is sorrowful.
@rischakmeador186
@rischakmeador186 5 лет назад
They take those videos so seriously my parents dress up to watch them in the privacy of their own home. Lol
@Geohovahs_Hand
@Geohovahs_Hand 5 лет назад
WTF! A suit and a dress? But its not a cult.
@rischakmeador186
@rischakmeador186 5 лет назад
@@Geohovahs_Hand It's sad for me to see this, my parents are over 80 years of age and this religion has destroyed our relationship.
@alyssawoodman
@alyssawoodman 3 года назад
This story makes my heart bleed...
@newbarker523
@newbarker523 3 года назад
@@rischakmeador186 Yes, that's sad :(
@dantoinettetaylor1663
@dantoinettetaylor1663 3 года назад
I believe you
@ulodetero
@ulodetero 5 лет назад
I wouldn't be at all surprised if those letters were complete and utter fiction.
@NeatoboyAus
@NeatoboyAus 5 лет назад
Yep they sounded made up to me!
@Mel..............
@Mel.............. 4 года назад
I had the very same notion that I commented on earlier.
@iamnancy2185
@iamnancy2185 5 лет назад
It's just more barbed wire facing inward.
@groovy9125
@groovy9125 5 лет назад
6 year timeframe for the Media Production Center??? With the “System of Things” due to end in 1975, this just doesn’t compute!!! I’m SO confused! 😂😂😂🥃🥃🥃
@fitcwebb
@fitcwebb 5 лет назад
"Things" have been pushed out to 2075. There was a miscalculation by a century. Don't bring up 1874. Nothing to see here ;)
@becca1673
@becca1673 5 лет назад
I was supposed to be born into the "New System" back in January 1976. Lol!
@charlenewatkins9126
@charlenewatkins9126 5 лет назад
Becca 1 I would have been a dead apostate not being a JW fool at the time
@groovy9125
@groovy9125 5 лет назад
Charlene Watkins - Yeah, “JW fool” for sure!
@groovy9125
@groovy9125 5 лет назад
Becca 1 - Maybe, just maybe, we are already in the New System!!! You were born into it, and this is it!!! I think this is “New Light”, and the Governing Body just hasn’t embraced it yet. 😂
@NickKzig
@NickKzig 5 лет назад
1:06:08 actually shocked me. It's so revealing that they laughed at that. incredibly disgusting.
@jeanwalker5106
@jeanwalker5106 5 лет назад
Robert Zick "... The biodiverse nature of the site might make it complex to develop." -- That smells a lot like Corporate Talk for "It'll take us some years to skirt the law, but we're on it".
@MM-dv9hp
@MM-dv9hp 5 лет назад
TAX CREDIT!
@saraabraham5486
@saraabraham5486 5 лет назад
Please Stephen Let, leave the black people alone in South Africa.
@alisonschmitt9533
@alisonschmitt9533 5 лет назад
Very excited for this! Reminder ON.
@deniseglover3648
@deniseglover3648 5 лет назад
OMG that picture of Lett could scare SATAN lol
@freeatlast.
@freeatlast. 5 лет назад
I'm sure he often frightens himself you know.
@michaelbyrne1954
@michaelbyrne1954 5 лет назад
Can't wait to hear this one.
@samboychip1
@samboychip1 5 лет назад
Indeed.....
@Negthetarget
@Negthetarget 5 лет назад
How did world know sister was acting at all too offer job in movie Little strange
@izabella6891
@izabella6891 5 лет назад
That’s probably why he was added to the governing body. Satan’s pesky forces will leave Jehovah’s organization alone!
@rayleighfrance9753
@rayleighfrance9753 5 лет назад
Was the “worst convention ever” convention the one with the bunkers? I was sitting there with young children just floored that we were trapped and they had to watch something so dark and gloomy. My jaw literally dropped. It was intense. Is this appropriate for young kids? The first time I felt that way was during the hezekiah drama, and I took the kids out. Uhm I felt such cognitive dissonance cause aren’t we at the convention and here I’m not letting my kids watch the program cause it was dark and intense. I met Stephen lett at one of our assemblies. He had given a talk about sister pötzinger who was a good friend of my grandmothers and great-grandmother’s. Since he had just mentioned her in his talk I thought I would tell him about her and how encouraging she was to my great-grandmother in the concentration camp they both were at (yes you read that right, we go way back)... I was excited to share my experience, and when I told him, he could have cared less. Lol!!! Not even one bit. Cognitive dissonance again.
@josevaldez1554
@josevaldez1554 4 года назад
I think if you had offered to take Steven and his entourage out for an expensive dinner his interest in your comments may have increased, who knows.
@alyssawoodman
@alyssawoodman 3 года назад
I can't stand that man and his open disgust for children!
@aprayingatheist2378
@aprayingatheist2378 3 года назад
So you finally woke up I take it, that's good. Hope your days are full of happiness.
@cardboardbox9977
@cardboardbox9977 5 лет назад
That organization video with them putting the box together fast is how I chose my screen name🤣😂🤣
@CS-np2oo
@CS-np2oo 5 лет назад
They're in effect the new 700 Club/Joel Olsteen. My first thoughts when they started JW Broadcasting. They are what they railed against for years in the 80's and 90's. They blend in, rather than stand apart in that aspect.
@Cjnw
@Cjnw 5 лет назад
LOL, was there a "700 Club" for ancient musicians who died at exactly 700 years of age ??😛
@emmanuelwolf6568
@emmanuelwolf6568 5 лет назад
Really enjoyed your take on this.brilliant
@dianeb411
@dianeb411 5 лет назад
i would also like to know when they started talking about a lake of fire. i was born in and i never heard about a lake of fire. GOOD GRIEF !!!! what is coming next? thank you for all of the time and effort put in to expose their vial selves.
@marshajanulis6092
@marshajanulis6092 5 лет назад
isn't the ''lake of fire'' like the final destruction after Satan is supposedly let loose to test perfect mankind?
@louiekeller1243
@louiekeller1243 5 лет назад
Don't know when...But the Lake of Fire represents the final death....Revelations...Somewhere...
@sinematic06
@sinematic06 5 лет назад
Diane B I was born in too and they’ve always talked about the lake of fire. It was in the Revelation book that was studied a gazillion times
@Goghvangoghandme
@Goghvangoghandme 5 лет назад
Diane B I was born in 1964, they have always in my memory talked of the lake of fire. It could be that your innocence kept you from hearing it.
@Lexiesmusic1
@Lexiesmusic1 5 лет назад
Born in ‘83. Lake of fire was talked about but I only remember it being spoken of at book studies when studying the red revelation book.
@VictoriaOz
@VictoriaOz 5 лет назад
Lloyd .. this was one of your finest videos .. the leaked video from WTBTS was so appropriate to the Tele Evangelist thing.. thank you for bringing such professionalism and respectful dialogue to the table .. this was something I feel I could share with PIMI family and friends (in my dreams 😌)
@gaillarsen7863
@gaillarsen7863 4 года назад
By the time the center is built they would have sold all the kingdom halls.
@xtjgloriaestrada6053
@xtjgloriaestrada6053 5 лет назад
My daughter at 10 years old .. my son at 7 got expelled from school ‘cause they refused to do the flag wows... I was not an active jw... but I had to live with my mother which she was... so when I went to talk to the principal to ask him to get them back... he told me that it was not good for my kids going back to the same school ‘ cause they where ashamed and humiliated really bath... they are now 39 and 36... and guess what... they don’t want anything to do with God.... I really wish the tw disappear ....😢😢😢😭😭😭😰😰😰🤬🤬🤬🤬😡😠🤬🤬🤬🤬this happened in Mexico..
@terrypreston197
@terrypreston197 5 лет назад
It seemed to be a religion in the 70s, now it's a joke ,and the members don't see it , glad I got my family out in 95
@janheard3826
@janheard3826 5 лет назад
Terry Preston it was a sick lying religion in the 70s and it’s a sick lying religion now.
@Jacksonbodylanguage
@Jacksonbodylanguage 5 лет назад
I left immediately soon after I saw the hypocrisy through the TV broadcasting which began around 2016.
@AnArchyRulzz
@AnArchyRulzz 5 лет назад
It was always a sick cult that followed men in New York over following the Bible. I am no believer in Bible, but seems JWs only know how to repeat the Watchtower justification for rule, not where in the Bible it actually says that and the proper context. It says don't eat blood, nothing about transfusions, but since the governing body interpret bible for them...
@Emp6ft10in
@Emp6ft10in 4 года назад
Did you leave when they changed the "this generation will not pass away" doctrine, essentially making that time period unlimited after teaching it wasn't for almost 100 years?
@jonisilk
@jonisilk 5 лет назад
The Photo-Drama of Creation, is a gold-mine. Well worth the 8-hour watch.
@princesskimo2821
@princesskimo2821 5 лет назад
Oh that's why they were raising money. For the media house.
@finalscorce
@finalscorce 5 лет назад
Princess Kimo Yup plus paying out all the sexual child molest/abuse victims in Austria and in the USA
@frankbytheway6637
@frankbytheway6637 5 лет назад
If all four of my grandparents were still alive to hear this they would have been ashamed. My mother's mother was baptized before the name of Jehovah's witnesses was even used to identify themselves. Warning: Thou shall not use the Lord's name in vain. "having a form of godly devotion but proving false to its power, and from these turn away." 2 Tim. 3:5
@peggydoyle7147
@peggydoyle7147 5 лет назад
I am so glad you got this, and when they flippantly joke about Apostasy, I spit. And, these guys lived angry, painful lives in duty to the Tower.
@c.t8958
@c.t8958 5 лет назад
Can you imagine the gigantic profit they will make when they decide to sell it!!! Massive complex built with, voluntary contributions and free labour will be sold for hundreds of millions.
@ickleshouse
@ickleshouse 3 года назад
somehow i missed this when you first put it up, but its incredible. So glad that there are some folks inside leaking this stuff.
@jessicacopland7382
@jessicacopland7382 5 лет назад
"Even some of the governing body's words were unclear" I love how this is true on a whole other level than what they intended! Lol
@MsCaleb79
@MsCaleb79 5 лет назад
I was ready to give up, but when I saw Caleb and Sofia, I became encuraged to keep on in the faith!!
@Brandon-a-writer
@Brandon-a-writer 5 лет назад
as a biblical and biblical hebrew scholar there is very little about JW's that doesn't make me cringe. wonder why they don't mention the prophetess debra, some of the oldest material in the Bible (song of Debra) ... and "juh-hova" ... what nonsense
@hindsightpov4218
@hindsightpov4218 5 лет назад
Brandon Nobles The JW faith is very patriarchal. Why would they acknowledge any women for doing any good other than being a birthing machine for Jesus, the SON of Jehovah God?
@Brandon-a-writer
@Brandon-a-writer 5 лет назад
@@hindsightpov4218 They don't seem to acknowledge the ancient Israelite's worship of the Ashara (Miss Yahweh) or the Ba'al cults that you find all throughout the Bible. The world of Biblical wasn't monotheistic, it was henotheistic. they acknowledged other gods, but thought theirs was the only one worthy of worship, while the Bible is more of a library for the northern kingdom than it is a book. Mixing the Hebrew/Aramaic TaNaK with the Greek New Testament produces only nonsense, since the writers of the New Testament obviously referred to the Jewish scriptures in Greek, applied allegory and Hellenistic ideas, see: Letter of Barnabas where, hilariously, a 2nd century Christian writer explains to the Jews they never understood their own scriptures, as it was meant to be allegory. plus the nonsense apocryphal writings of the New Testament where Jesus is destroying dragons and murdering children for annoying him.
@shanaaleshire2054
@shanaaleshire2054 4 года назад
I seen a post online that from a church sign. It said, "a kind Atheist is better then a 2 faced Christian." I just seen that and thought that you would like it! I love your channel. I am a ex-jw and was completely burned by them and have lost my family also from it. I have been on my own since i was 19( so it has been about 15 years) My kids do not know their grandparents or the rest of my family either. I was also sexually abused from my step-uncle along with his own children and it was covered up by the CULT. His oldest son is now in jail for doing the same thing to his own step-daughter when she was 9 and his own brothers . I just want to say that you are a very brave person and I think you are doing great work exposing all the lies. I wish people would just wake up and see them for what they really are...A CULT!
@caseymartin3447
@caseymartin3447 5 лет назад
I have watched almost all your videos and this one is by far my favorite! I laughed too hard at "Hes a tool"!!! ❤
@dianacryder7523
@dianacryder7523 3 года назад
Great video. I don't watch much exJW youtube anymore but this came up in my feed. It caught my eye because, as a senior, what they're engaged in, now, is so counter to what I was taught in my youth. It's like a completely different religion in many ways. You were right on point, keeping my attention throughout the whole video. It occured to me part way through that I didn't look to see how long the video was. When I checked, I was surprised to see that I'd already been watching for 45 minutes. It seemed like 15 at the most. It's nice to see you looking so relaxed and refreshed in your new bunker. It came out looking fantastic and very professional. Love the personal touches added to soften the cringe worthy photos and literature, lol.
@steann1
@steann1 5 лет назад
Soon dubs will be streaming the BS videos into their living rooms(bunkers).. instead of trekking to KH’s
@cindymolander4183
@cindymolander4183 4 года назад
I’m not a JW or an ex JW but I watch your channel regularly, always hoping for an appearance of Stephen. He really can flap his lips! And pop his eyes! All while spewing nonsense.
@TreCayUltimateLife
@TreCayUltimateLife 5 лет назад
I am the 300th Like. Life is all about achievements.
@nickking8994
@nickking8994 5 лет назад
Have 10 experience points
@TheCchinc1984
@TheCchinc1984 5 лет назад
😹😹it’s only special if you’re the 144th like.
@TheCchinc1984
@TheCchinc1984 5 лет назад
😹😹it’s only special if you’re the 144th like.
@Cjnw
@Cjnw 5 лет назад
Imagine being the 666th like !! 😛
@romulorodrigues5298
@romulorodrigues5298 3 года назад
I keep coming back to watch old videos again. Lloyd does such a great job. I'll always be grateful for your work
@Heather_ONeal
@Heather_ONeal 4 года назад
The references to “ mission impossible” and the building of the media center reminded me so much of Scientology
@BabyShenanigans
@BabyShenanigans 5 лет назад
Wow, Steven Lett sounds even creepier without his stage voice.
@eratoisyourmuse659
@eratoisyourmuse659 5 лет назад
Who would have thought that was even possible?
@iamnancy2185
@iamnancy2185 5 лет назад
Watchtower is shooting themselves in the foot. I say, KEEP IT UP WATCHTOWER !!!, MORE WILL WAKE UP. THE FIRST BROADCAST WOKE ME UP AFTER 50 YEARS. THE GOVERNING BODY "HAS NO CLOTHES ON. THE CURTAIN HAS BEEN PULLED BACK.
@helengrace6553
@helengrace6553 3 года назад
Thank you Lloyd. I couldn’t cope with watching this when you initially released this video. I can only cope with my triggering from WT films by salving myself with Pinot Noir or Lagavulin along with 95% Lindt chocolate. Love from NZ ❤️
@terrestrialcelestial6516
@terrestrialcelestial6516 5 лет назад
After the famous great tribulation bunker video...I can't WAIT to see what they come up with in the new mega studio 🎥😂
@sahfyl
@sahfyl 5 лет назад
Watchtower was actually remarkably prescient with their “The Electric Church Turns On” 1981 article. Indeed many of the terms you would have been hard pressed to even find within the mainstream press. Love the “Dad joke” ya dad made, by the way LoL and I remember that 1990 video and being amazed by the farm.
@denishartley3828
@denishartley3828 5 лет назад
It's a bit rich for Stephen Letts to brag (at 53 mins) how WT looks after it's workers (unlike the world), when thousands of loyal JWs have been dumped after years of Bethel service, or as Special Pioneers, because Bethels have been closed or relocated to other lands, and Special Pioneers no longer needed. These people have no pensions or savings, no place to live, and no academic qualifications so end up window cleaning or supermarket shelf stacking in their old age. All the while the Governing Body live like Kings in luxury apartments, travel 1st Class and have the best of the best. They just want to suck the life blood out of workers for cheap free labour, while they amass a billion dollar property empire. Hypocrites.
@beverleyrock1836
@beverleyrock1836 4 года назад
Denis, there was an ex JW on RU-vid who investigated property ownership in the luxury gated community of Tuxedo Park near Warwick. Several properties were owned by WT but one was the home of Tony Morris - he did serve in the military and the family had money (see The Blue Envelope) But he supposedly took a vow of poverty like all the Bethelites! I have read comments on RU-vid by an ex JW who used to visit a doctor who was accommodated in one of the same WT luxury gated residences. This doctor, a brother, had children and therefore could not live at Bethel. There also used to be another clip on YT of a magnificent mansion on a lake in Wales, England, where London Bethelittes and their important visitors could stay. Search YT to see the luxury Watchtower properties for sale in London. So much is hidden but it's the same sense if entitlement as worldly business executives.
@exjwvaa5493
@exjwvaa5493 5 лет назад
Oh I loved 'The Organization behind the name'. I watched it as a teenager so many times. It made me want to go to Bethel like my brother did.
@EfrainRiveraJunior
@EfrainRiveraJunior 5 лет назад
Thanks to the Governing Body I've grown to loathe even hearing the name "Jehovah".
@MonaLisa-yb9bq
@MonaLisa-yb9bq 5 лет назад
It was very obvious that S. Lett's voice was downplayed a lot in this video.
@gbnomore3918
@gbnomore3918 5 лет назад
It was weird not seeing the facial contortions.😑😶😣😫😜🤪😵🥴 I had to add some here.
@gbnomore3918
@gbnomore3918 5 лет назад
Damn...left a couple out,,,🐷🤓🤡🤯🤖😇😱🤗
@Chris-zz8jx
@Chris-zz8jx 5 лет назад
@@gbnomore3918 thats more like it :D
@barbaramullins4233
@barbaramullins4233 5 лет назад
I feel A-theism coming on strong. Never thought I would feel this way. But really, the creator of the universe allowing his "servants" to reach these levels of utter begging? I'm sorry, but as Ricky Ricardo use to say to Lucy "you got some 'splaining to do". Well, I say, there is alot of explaining to do and if a creator exists, those of us humans who dared once believe in such a concept are the first to have a hearing
@icekills1
@icekills1 5 лет назад
They have become the very thing they swore not to be. The irony is strong with this org.
@eccentriastes6273
@eccentriastes6273 5 лет назад
I was laughing my head off when he read the letter about the kid who refused to say happy birthday. I know it's really tragic the way this cult brainwashes kids, but the way they see the situation is just so backwards it's downright silly.
@xjwfurious
@xjwfurious 2 года назад
"The time is coming, and it is now, when the world will see Jehovah's Witnesses as televangelists." Jehovah's Witness: "Hi, we're Jehovah's Witnesses and we're spreading the good..." Sensible Homeowner: "Hmm... Jehovah's Witnesses... The televangelists who are always asking for more money? Nah, I'm good." (door closes; end of scene). How do the JWs think this will help bring MORE people into the organisation? It will just push them away - along with existing JWs, who can think for themselves and who recognise devious propaganda when they see it.
@christinacoad6774
@christinacoad6774 5 лет назад
The host wanted him to shut up. You can tell he's like "WHY IS HE SAYING THIS OUT LOUD"
@sheilamackliet4515
@sheilamackliet4515 5 лет назад
A very well done episode Lloyde. Thank you for sharing.
@broussakis
@broussakis 5 лет назад
Can you imagine what a WT acting class would like? 🙄
@kelleydennis2817
@kelleydennis2817 4 года назад
So Steven Letts speech saying we are in the last of the last of the last day is expanded to include the next 6 years so that this new media building can be built with such an investment.
@terryhinch
@terryhinch 5 лет назад
"If Jesus had this technology he'd use it too." Why didn't he then? If he's god, he can do whatever he wants. But he didn't 🤔
@Dexion845
@Dexion845 5 лет назад
They do not believe Jesus is God though. :p
@user-py3gh6bc2x
@user-py3gh6bc2x 5 лет назад
They know what Jesus would do only when it serves their agenda. I doubt that Jesus would not say a greeting or share a meal with a disfellowshipped person. I was exhausted from the preaching work; I had always heard that if we didn't spread the Good News ... "the stones would cry out ..." so I figured let them [the stones] do it.
@Dexion845
@Dexion845 5 лет назад
@Andy Sandoval Oh no I got the point, I'm saying the argument is invalid because Jehovah's Witnesses do not believe that Jesus is God, therefore it is not within his power to use whatever technology would be available since he's not God.
@unclesalty7778
@unclesalty7778 5 лет назад
They don't think before they talk!! First Jesus knows all hearts ,he doesn't have to be there to know when someone dies!! He would of used their technology!! WHAT A JOKE,! Mans ways are foolishness to Jesus and JAH!
@lancemilliken9078
@lancemilliken9078 5 лет назад
Andy Sandoval could Jesus score some blood fractions?
@donnybowers7832
@donnybowers7832 5 лет назад
I love the fact that you are able to show so much leaked information from the Organization. Some of it is so revealing. I appreciate videos like this one.
@jeanwalker5106
@jeanwalker5106 5 лет назад
What Ken Flodin tells there at 0:41-0:50 reminds me of what Howie Rutledge Tran told about brother Henschel (?) picking into Gerrit Lösch's chest with his finger during a Governing Body meeting.
@GG-kv8vv
@GG-kv8vv 5 лет назад
We were given a true gift....free will, intelligence, don't ever do more than what you want to be responsible for.
@GG-kv8vv
@GG-kv8vv 5 лет назад
Or, something like that...yeah, right Lloyd. A behind the scenes version.
@BushcraftingBogan
@BushcraftingBogan 5 лет назад
That Lett dudes eyes are scary.
@BushcraftingBogan
@BushcraftingBogan 5 лет назад
Anneli Nevelius Exactly. He really looks like that Heavens Gate leader.
@Huvve1980
@Huvve1980 5 лет назад
@@BushcraftingBogan Yeah, he do. Have not thought about that before...
@JenniB123
@JenniB123 5 лет назад
I find EVERYTHING about him scary
@Jacksonbodylanguage
@Jacksonbodylanguage 5 лет назад
Looking at him is like, you have seen Satan.
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