Jehovah's Witnesses might lose in Norwegian Court even if they told the truth 

what does this mean?

@@shawn-pu9is that JW will win, either partially or totally

@@marcelocampbell1679 but why? that want money not justice. no one is persecuting them. And like most people everyone has opinion. Apostates can be in his or her own feeling about the org. Rather they believe in Jehovah organization is subjective, but no one that i know not physically harming ones are bethel or other witnesses. A lot of woke jw can see b.s. that society does in sense some stuff gets cover up or brush to the side like sexual assaults cases. Society doesn't have sympathy or mental capacity to handle cases well but they push people out on basis of not realizing some do have disorders and been legitmately abuse.

@@marcelocampbell1679 What are some of the crucial arguments made by the JWs that the state missed?

@@moiobra4478 at some point the judge asked whether de-registration and defunding could be seen as a stigmatization of JWs. Here the state failed to mention that religions such as the Mormons do not receive state funding and are not for that reason stigmatized in Norway. He also asked whether it could be seen as a form of punishment. Here the state failed to make a clear distinction between punishing for a criminal offense and simply verifying whether JWs comply with the rules established in the new Act on Religious Associations to remain registered and receive state funding. Since their response a the moment were not to the point, the sensation left was that it was a form of stigmatization and of punishment, thus of of persecution. At least that was my impression.

So all you did was fading peacefully right?

@@hanneivanovic2465 Yes, the final straw was when I was told my 2hrs a month was not enough and that is the reason I could not do car park duty at the assembly ( I did that because I hated the BS coming off the platform and was a good way to get away) so I just said ok no problem, they said is that it no questions, and again just replied with a no its ok no problem and that I was surprised it took them this long to say anything. Then on way to the car I told the wife that is it no more am I going to waste my time in this cult am done. Since then I have been to the odd assembly for half a day more for my interest in seeing if the same old BS is being pumped and the cash cow that the assembly is and true to form yes it is.

@madmick So true !! Faded or DfD you are to be treated as a Leper, one not to have association with as "bad associations spoil useful habits". Bad association?? Association with God botherers known as Jehovah's Witnesses where human compassion is NOT open but CONDITIONAL. Filial love is not a love unless it is on the CONDITION of everyone in the family is in one accord. One accord with the mind bending bullshit as preached as "Spiritual food" dispensed at the appropriate time by Jehovah which is called New Light.

Hate speech is speech that incites to discrimination and violence. The Spanish court recently acknowledged that mandated shunning is psychologically abusive and the Norwegian government described it as psychological violence. We know violence isn't necessary caused by physical attacks. The psychological hits and kicks of mandated shunning are at least as damaging as they go on indefinitely and are largely invisible to the outside world, who, for the most part, remains unsympathetic.

@@Rupunzelsawake very well said, so many people shun because they are scared of the consequences, that in itself tells that they are aware of the violence of shunning.

@@yvonne3903 Raymond Franz, a Governing body member, is a classic example of the consequences of associating / talking to or with with DfD people. He himself was DfD for associating with one DFD person.

@@robertgrey6101 that's the perfect example, thanks

By all that is right and wholesome this is the hope !!!

I hope the same Efraín, it is time to stop their abuse!

Thank you so much!

Thank you so much!

Borat

She is cool

A lot of power from me ❤

The same thing with all unhealthy dependecys. Imagine if you were an alkoholic with good drinkingbuddies. One day you are sober, But still want to hang out with your old buddies. Even if you were 100% ok with them driking, they would not be your friends anymore. Its healthy dependency… It block healthy relations

They are not honest

Stay strong Be Brave and stand tall against Injustice... ... Hope to meet 🍀

Extortion can refering to other thing then money… my wife use extortion to trick me into her bedroom (she is wordly, she cant control herself)

Glad it was helpful!

Always!

Being accused of contr0ll!ng or coercive behaviour on an individual level is very serious. It's not only legally understood as an emotionally distressing incident for all concerned to go through, but if found guilty of an offence, it can lead to imprisonment. This should follow through with organisations, particularly those attempting to have special tax privileges, that ultimately in turn affect everyone in that country, including every other tax payer.

Watchtower is responsible for coercion of its members, that is irrefutable, in the instances of disfellowshipping and disassociation, Hospital Liaison Committees, and many other member management processes.

They should be held to task. If not, what message does that send out to other organisations? I hope the courts do the right thing. Ultimately, the one thing they’re concerned about is the bottom line, money.

I do hope the Court is in possession of the elders’ book. Though we all know that the courts won’t be privy to the extent of the personal damages done by Watchtower over the years.

Gorgeous animal family you have Jonas ❤️

Shunning is also legal in Norway, but the criteria for receiving government grants, which this case is all about, then the Watchtower has status as a religion only if they provide their members the freedom to enter and leave the Watchtower as they please, without enforcing on their members any additional penalties or coercions like shunning and social control tactics. It is PEOPLE in Norway that have freedom of religion and freedom of assembly. The state of Norway does not grant organisations like the Watchtower freedom of religion.

We have watched the ARC again and Jeffrey Jackson and bro. SPINKS and his mate Obrian Said the one that leaves is the one doing the Shunning, check it out ◇◇◇◇ so the shiny bucket is telling you to go and talk to your Mother 🎉📣 Cheers 🥂 *** ...

Shunning is legal… But organised shunning might be a crime. (Shunning a child is always a crime)

Same to you!

Glad you enjoyed

Lets hope and work

Its not hay, its straw. Big difference 🤠

@@GoatlikePersonality okay.

Yes… And at the same time I am proud of being honest enough to admit I was wrong and correct my way

Sorry to hear this

Yes we are

Tack

As a former Catholic at least I learned that lying is a sin - reference to the Irish Ballad by Tom Leherer: About a maid I'll sing a song, Sing rickety-tickety-tin, About a maid I'll sing a song Who didn't have her family long. Not only did she do them wrong, She did ev'ryone of them in, them in, She did ev'ryone of them in. One morning in a fit of pique, Sing rickety-tickety-tin, One morning in a fit of pique, She drowned her father in the creek. The water tasted bad for a week, And we had to make do with gin, with gin, We had to make do with gin. Her mother she could never stand, Sing rickety-tickety-tin, Her mother she cold never stand, And so a cyanide soup she planned. The mother died with a spoon in her hand, And her face in a hideous grin, a grin, Her face in a hideous grin. She set her sister's hair on fire, Sing rickety-tickety-tin, She set her sister's hair on fire, And as the smoke and flame rose high'are, Danced around the funeral pyre, Playin' a violin, -olin, Playin' a violin. She weighted her brother down with stones, Rickety-tickety-tin, She weighted her brother down with stones, And sent him off to davy jones. All they ever found were some bones, And occasional pieces of skin, of skin, Occasional pieces of skin. One day when she had nothing to do, Sing rickety-tickety-tin, One day when she had nothing to do, She cut her baby brother in two, And served him up as an irish stew, And invited the neighbors in, -bors in, Invited the neighbors in. And when at last the police came by, Sing rickety-tickety-tin, And when at last the police came by, Her little pranks she did not deny, To do so she would have had to lie, And lying, she knew, was a sin, a sin, Lying, she knew, was a sin.

Quite. A blatant display of hypocrisy.

Thanks, you too!

Awesome! Thank you! Hope you are among the 144.000 subscribers

@@GoatlikePersonality oh absolutely sir, i don't miss a video 😊

Thank you so much!

We meet a bro who said he was baptised at 6 years old, so by 10 years old that lad would have been well indoctrinated, but that's what 🐐 do but at 10 he can't get married or get a divorce or driving 🚘 tell him to watch the ARC and Jeffrey Jackson will set him straight on the shunning, that you can talk to his mother because you are not shunning her all the best with that, as you are smarter than any 10 year old 🧓 cheers ◇*◇*◇ ...

It's like H**ler youth. That's the level of indoctrination

He also condoned slavery… weird dude 😂

Howdy

I worship almighty Bob. And the dog is also called Bob. My wife wants to call any future son, Bob Robert

Howdy

Its a religious definition of the word supreme court. As the prophet of the religious order of the shiny bucket, my words have a religious interpretention. And supreme court mean whatever i need it to mean. I think I am being persecuted

😆@@GoatlikePersonality

Sorry about that

Thanx. Ohio, Pensylvania and Florida is the only states were voting matter. (From what I heard)

Whats that

Absolutely!!

I started goatfarming to have an excuse to miss meetings.

All hail almighty bob

What was the name of Lots wife… we are supposed to remember her… the bible specificly states that we should remember his wife… But not her name 😂