Jerry Coyne on the Indigenisation of Universities in New Zealand 

@@andyox-gr9gy fear not... for it is extremely low🎶frequency✨️

the universities are leading it

Too late, they already are

@@margueritemccartney3607 # jewniversities! 🤯

They already have

@@DownUnderWarboss so if they want to use their science... Does that mean they teach the earth is flat? Cause that's what pre colonization Maori thought

@red2775 this realm is flat☝️😉

@@Anonymous-c4p no it's a globe... Isn't it?

@@red2775 jewtube won't allow me to answer 😕

God speaks not through the brain but the (((❤️)))

Science is about falsification.

Science is a joke

And if you can do that by believing in a culture that had not invented the wheel, the bow and arrow or writing all the better. Keeps them employed too.... And of course if a Country is dumb enough to allow this to happen to them then they deserve it. How absolutely stupid are Kiwis to allow their Government to carry on like this?

So you're allowed to entreat a mythology?

This has been one of the most articulate and intelligent comments I've ever read. Good stuff 👏👏

They need to drag us back into the dark, it's the only way they get to rule again. They controlled their people with superstitions and need us to go backwards so we will go back to being easily controlled by them. It's also part of the deconstructing of modern civilisation as a whole by much more serious people.

@@yingle6027 God agrees 🙌

Science doesn't come from Europe, you're correct on that and it comes from the world. Much of what we call science came from the ancient Chinese and Arabic parts of the world and made its way into Europe. Polynesian/Maori knowledge/science meant they were navigating the huge Pacific ocean while Europeans weren't venturing away from the European mainland. And let's not forget the indigenous knowledge that provided scientific breakthroughs.

Gnosis! There is a clue as to the problem with beLIEf & that is the three-letter word contained within it!

Yes, knowing that there is no man in the sky gives you mental freedom.

@bigthinker281 🤔when one has had three out of body experiences...one at 7yrs old, then at 17yrs old, and again at 27yrs...one 'knows'✨️😏(((🤍))) And 'knowing' prevented me from becoming a drug dealer, murderer or rapist!!! ✌️😏(((💛)))

@@bigthinker281 🤔must think harder!

​@@bigthinker281lol, you are a bit wrong lol, plenty of people in the sky lol

Underrated comment. 🇳🇿

@@PeyoteCoyote97 life will teach you the cause of poverty is alcohol/drugs/gambling and getting sucked into bad financial products like car loans. Anti-colonialism is a grift - another bad financial product.

Much higher than the pay from doing an important essential job... That's for sure

@@scorpnz4433 it won't get one into the higher realms✨️

They also had a thriving shrunken-head trade. Also, most iwi had really efficient systems of enslaving their weak, or those lacking "mana".

Could you be anymore of a racist knuckle dragger? By the way I wouldn't take much stock from someone with literacy like yours - the word is cannibalism!

They weren't smart enough. They didn't even have a pot to cook in

Personally I am proud Cook arrived in New Zealand. He immediately introduced animals that became a staple part of any hangi, introduced a future language that is now regarded as the most important language on the globe, introduced democracy, and technology that was non existant before he set foot

Yes it does. You need to look up what "indigenous" means when talking about people.

@@hughbarlow9736 Actually there is no generally accepted definition of indigenous peoples in international law and the word indigenous is derived from the Latin word indigena meaning " sprung from the land ". I'm pretty sure Maori didn't originate here. Modern interpretation of " indigenous people " allows for, in part, self identification, so that says it all.

the word indigenous is a a bit of a misnomer. When you consider original people in Australia have been there for tens of thousands of years and the oldest artefact found in New Zealand is from around 1300 ce ( a fishing lure)To give an idea how recent that is Europe at the same time had eyeglasses, mechanical clocks, gunpowder, windmills, printing presses, papaer money and the compass. It is an irrelevant term oft used by an irrelevant organisation namely the United Nations

Yeah well when the first Europeans came to NZ Maori at the time were 3500 years behind. Maori are not indigenous & they committed Genocide on the original inhabitants of NZ.

@@pauljones3062 Maori are the original inhabitants of NZ. There's no excuse for believing bullshit made up by Victorians.

That was then. As a child brought up post war christianity flooded through the uk as communities looked for hope and a pillar to cling to. My father was an atheist firmly of the mind that the horrors of WW2 and a loving god were mutually uncompatible. My mother explored a number of religious options unsatisfied with the bland CoE. And progressed to be unsatisfied with all communal variaties and settled on the more individual spiritual. No praying and no Bible. Born into this i was a cultural christian going the church thing on festivals being bored with a vicar's ineptness and sanctimonious persona. Going to university and philosophical debate and discussion particularly with the entrenched religious steeled me to ask some fundamental questions which were never answered. I am speaking here of Christianity and later Islam. I keep an open mind in case there is some case to be made. Having spent some significant time in tracing ritual and content regarding religion from pre-Greek roots it is hard to regard religion as anyhing other than an evolving continuing patchwork of beliefs plagiarised and developed by a self interested clegy. A comfotable community of belief sometimes of merit. A man-made belief system to be examined and weighed. As Socrates said an unexamined life is not worth living. Analysis and critical thinking is most important.

And don't forget Kepler who tried in vain to put the Planets in circular orbits because circles are perfect and that how God would have created them. Which of course led to years of frustration because he was thinking of the transcendent as a benchmark for perfection. It wasn't until he could no longer refute his own observations and those of Danish Astronomer Tycho Brahe, that led to elliptical orbits and Kepler's Laws. The transcendent has held science back all through the Dark Ages. Newton and Leibnitz argued over whether Calculus was Heretical as it displaced God as the cause of the orbits of the Universe.

@@dallynstevens7855 they were starseeds✨️

@@rogermartin8435 more fundamental questions which were what?

@@dallynstevens7855 that is a rabbit hole i am not gping down in this thread. I have neither the time nor the inclination to engage with any religious apologists. It is a distraction without any hope of resolution as positions are very entrenched unwilling to consider a secular world without proscriptive communal prayer and worship. There is nothing special about religion for most of us

@@Marius_vanderLubbe it's been happening since forever!

You have an invisible friend and you call *him* a fool?

@@douglaslyell6075 God loves a trier☝️🙄(((🤍)))

Clearly you should read your scripture as you called this man a fool, you are in danger of the fire of hell...Matthew 5:22 "But I tell you that anyone who is angry with a brother or sister will be subject to judgment. Again, anyone who says to a brother or sister, ‘Raca,’ is answerable to the court. And anyone who says, ‘You fool!’ will be in danger of the fire of hell."

You are correct, the evidence for an uncaring, cruel, misogynistic and violent God is everywhere in the sufferings of the world. Wow, it's almost like he doesn't exist.

There is not a shred of evidence that God exists. Not a shred. If there was I'd be happy to take God seriously. Like all believers you are delusional Douglas. There was no "pride" in Jerry Coyne's comments. None. At all.