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Jerry Sandusky Rape Victim Speaks Out 

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ABC News' Chris Cuomo sits down with victim 1 to discuss the Sandusky trial and torment.

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@LenaDT81
@LenaDT81 6 лет назад
He was victim #1. Had they believed him they could have saved dozens of other kids from this monster!
@almighty5839
@almighty5839 3 года назад
Yup truly sad
@routeirish2503
@routeirish2503 3 года назад
It's ALL BULLSHIT!!
@drxeno7816
@drxeno7816 3 года назад
@UCsIbX-3trNmdtKUUfhTCP9g you are bullshit
@jacobm6617
@jacobm6617 2 года назад
He wasn’t necessarily the first of Sandusky’s victims he was just the first to report it
@bicuriousdirtbikeboi2594
@bicuriousdirtbikeboi2594 5 месяцев назад
But they didn’t because for some reason no one ever believes children especially not boys.
@angerycamel2
@angerycamel2 6 лет назад
Imagine the courage as a teenage boy that would take, he must have felt so much shame and pain and conflict within himself. This boy is what a real man looks like, it takes guts and character to do what he did, his mother should be more proud of him then ever, raised a hero in a society of filled with cowards like that principle and assistant coach.
@because0011
@because0011 6 лет назад
I was molested at 9 yrs of age. I felt weird and disgusted for many yrs. But getting counseling help me. It showed me it wasn’t my fault. I was a child a dirty older adult was the problem. Please anyone out there who’s been violated, please come forward.
@debbieporter8610
@debbieporter8610 6 лет назад
I am so very sorry for your horrible ordeal I hope you are happy now
@sustacheboyz6157
@sustacheboyz6157 5 лет назад
Me too
@sustacheboyz6157
@sustacheboyz6157 5 лет назад
I'm 12 now it's really hard
@ChristianGibbons777
@ChristianGibbons777 Год назад
Come forward with evidence!….
@Whothatshootback
@Whothatshootback Год назад
@@sustacheboyz6157I hope you’re ok now
@Celticwomanfanpiano
@Celticwomanfanpiano 12 лет назад
I consider this young Hero to be an admirable person and one worthy of respect. I also respect his Mother who didn't back down to the school when they subtly threatened her to keep quiet. I think the principal who didn't follow the law with the mandatory reporting should be fired and her educator's license revoked forevermore. And I thank Chris Cuomo for doing this report.
@johnkleinberger5930
@johnkleinberger5930 6 лет назад
Luisa Reyes h
@richierichnumber1
@richierichnumber1 6 лет назад
Poor little guy victim number 1...How sad they didn't believe him yes " Hero number 1."
@vonkaabbas5186
@vonkaabbas5186 5 лет назад
So happy men are finally speaking out about this!!!
@missurielleshakirthesiren-3866
@missurielleshakirthesiren-3866 2 года назад
This was child sexual abuse and it is statistically wayyyyy more common with female children. So, less to talk about!!
@josephstalin8298
@josephstalin8298 2 года назад
@@missurielleshakirthesiren-3866 why does it matter
@serpentserpent9308
@serpentserpent9308 3 месяца назад
@@missurielleshakirthesiren-3866 - how can you have a true statistic when boys are silent? Don’t believe every so-called statistics.
@logically-xg3of
@logically-xg3of 3 месяца назад
​@@missurielleshakirthesiren-3866 I can tell you're sexist.
@joek9678
@joek9678 6 лет назад
The monster is in jail for life.but he ruined many lives
@daveolep7657
@daveolep7657 6 лет назад
So you had suspicions, but you lead the lamb straight to the wolf's den .
@anthonyallen5139
@anthonyallen5139 8 месяцев назад
How many feelings or emotions do you go through in a day that you don’t understand or confused by, not everyone investigates or follows their intuition or suspicions
@johngeraldbernard5813
@johngeraldbernard5813 3 месяца назад
Exactly
@littleone-kh6mz
@littleone-kh6mz 5 лет назад
Wow imagine how many of the kids could have been saved from the same horrific torture and sexual abuse that this boy was subjected to if people would have listened to him and stop these monsters
@littleone-kh6mz
@littleone-kh6mz 5 лет назад
Why would a grow man want to have a sleep over with a child !?
@davidh9844
@davidh9844 2 года назад
WHY? It's pretty obvious why! What the hell was that pathetic excuse of a wife thinking? What the hell were the parents thinking???
@TXPeter
@TXPeter 8 месяцев назад
@@davidh9844 Parents? The kid had no parents, he had a single mother who was probably too wrapped up in her own personal drama instead of paying attention to her son and what the hell was going on. I suspect most of the boys that were victimized all came from similar backgrounds of single mom/divorced homes. I strongly doubt that an attentive father would have allowed his son to be sleeping over at a grown man's house. Mom was busy getting hammered or screwing around while coach raped her kid.
@bearclaus2676
@bearclaus2676 6 месяцев назад
Because mentally, predators of that kind havent mentally matured. Thats exactly how they hide.
@JC-lw5qm
@JC-lw5qm 6 лет назад
The law was useless. Then they wonder why people take matters into their own hands at times
@davidh9844
@davidh9844 2 года назад
When it comes to child sexual abuse, people SHOULD take matters into their own hands. I'm a very conservative guy, but I refuse to own a gun. I've made it very clear to my kids and my friends, that if I ever learned of someone putting a hand on my child, I would buy a gun, seek him out, and kill him. Period. To the best of my knowledge, no one has ever laid a finger on one of my kids.
@amymarshall-comperatore381
@amymarshall-comperatore381 5 лет назад
Wow and parents didn't wonder why a grown man had sleep overs at his house? For that matter what of Sandusky's wife? She had to suspect something. This man is so horrible...glad this brave young man came forth.
@coletanner5193
@coletanner5193 6 лет назад
Not one officer, police case worker, judge, or state worker was fired over the years of refusing to pursue the allegations!
@CJ-cc5jm
@CJ-cc5jm 4 года назад
Shows you who the actual bad guys are huh?
@lorendgovea9549
@lorendgovea9549 6 лет назад
He looks pretty fragile 😔
@jacobm6617
@jacobm6617 2 года назад
He’s obviously pretty tough for taking Sandusky down
@flukeman022
@flukeman022 4 года назад
Some people believes male victims don't suffer as much as female victims.
@flukeman022
@flukeman022 3 года назад
@@koffiecake it's not me people needs to convince.
@littleone-kh6mz
@littleone-kh6mz 5 лет назад
The principal and the teaching staff also have a responsibility of being a child abuse reporters mandated reporters so why are they not in jail for not reporting
@normanwong6129
@normanwong6129 6 лет назад
Disgusting these people should be locked up forever and rot in hell
@aristocatsfan6700
@aristocatsfan6700 Год назад
That outta save dozens of more boys from Jerry Sandusky’s clutches.
@src3360
@src3360 9 месяцев назад
Theres a man in congress who knew this was happening and did nothing....
@Redeemed26
@Redeemed26 2 года назад
I am glad he had the courage to speak out, the conflicts he had were astronomical, I'm glad his mom believed him and had the courage to fight the corrupt system that exists in schools and sports, which continue to this day, to cover up sexual assault and rape of young people by those entrusted with their well-being. This young man is a great example for all those in similar situations to follow!
@donaldberry3692
@donaldberry3692 6 лет назад
Omg... it's horrible, just pure Evil.
@chrismontalban5538
@chrismontalban5538 10 месяцев назад
Parents? Where were the parents?
@DeHirvilammi
@DeHirvilammi 4 года назад
PARENTS DONT LET KIDS SLEEP OVER AT ADULTS HOME. CHARGE PARENTS TO
@buddhidev7877
@buddhidev7877 6 лет назад
He and his mom are heroes. By the way, everyone should call person whom sexually harassed 'survivor' instead of 'victim'.
@NYD666
@NYD666 3 года назад
No, not all victims are survivors
@Lisay788
@Lisay788 3 года назад
It's like if you go to the police they will dismiss your case.
@rojamillerover
@rojamillerover 5 месяцев назад
This is the saddest thing
@debbieporter8610
@debbieporter8610 6 лет назад
Very Brave Young Man
@mtnblueskiess
@mtnblueskiess 6 лет назад
Going public was the bravest thing to do. I believe you and it was a crime. You have nothing to be ashamed of and all that knew should be in jail themselves. For the jail you live in do to the abuse. you suffered.
@chrisk5651
@chrisk5651 2 месяца назад
What adult looked away?!?!?!? - Gym Jordan!!!
@georgiadn1619
@georgiadn1619 4 года назад
Sleep overs?? At an adults home??? WHY???????????
@synapses9973
@synapses9973 11 месяцев назад
This is much more widespread than public knowledge is willing to stomach.
@hopeausbyn1734
@hopeausbyn1734 7 месяцев назад
The Priest cleared that up with many due to their forced widespread exposure. So there are just those who choose to turn a blind eye left. So I guess you are right.
@paulis8107
@paulis8107 8 месяцев назад
Some ppl defend sandusky on social media platforms. Sickos.
@victoriousangel8911
@victoriousangel8911 4 года назад
So sorry for what this young man had to endured from that old man lock up in jail.
@ericbritton8146
@ericbritton8146 Год назад
As the man (Gen 1:26-28) KJV, a husband (Gen 2:21-25) and a father (Gen 3:16), the minister of God (Rom 13), teacher (Eph 4) and one of the survivors who was bullied in school, I am so sorry this happened to you. If I could have protected you from being harmed by "it", I would have, but I can not be everywhere all at once. (1 John 4)
@FUtube-h2y
@FUtube-h2y 11 месяцев назад
We need more good daddies
@ericbritton8146
@ericbritton8146 11 месяцев назад
@@FUtube-h2y I agree. I was telling my wife, I can not teach the word of God, then live contrary to the word of God. That would make me a hypocrite. That is not a good title to have. Eph 5:22-33, 6:1-4
@FUtube-h2y
@FUtube-h2y 11 месяцев назад
@@ericbritton8146 you can be my daddy
@ElectricSpokes
@ElectricSpokes 5 лет назад
I’m just starting my path to freedom from surviving child sexual abuse. It’s a stereotypical story. Member of the family. Trusted...Etc. It went on for years. I was groomed. The person who did this...normalized it. I felt responsible. I, only until recently, felt like it was my fault. Now, looking back, I see I was groomed and basically shaped into what he wanted. I’m currently so confused. I’m experiencing emotions I’ve never felt before that are terrifying and cold. I’m angry at myself because it was my responsibility to speak up. I kept silent out of desperation because, just a year before he started molesting and raping me, my other brother past away. I was scared of losing more family members. More pain. It started when I was nine. I’m watching videos about this because, I honestly don’t know what to do or how to do it. I’m scared of opening up. I’m experiencing intense emotions over this. I’ve cried. Threw stuff. How could I be so oblivious. How could, or better yet, WHY DID I ALLOW THIS? I think I know but is that really right? I’m so confused. For all my life after the sexual abuse started, most of the times if someone touches me unexpectedly, I jump instinctively. Just a pat on the back, or a hand on the shoulder. I thought it was a result of just being jumpy. Now I’m realizing, it’s because when someone innocently touches me, I jump and am startled because my body expects trauma. I hate that about me. I hate me. It’s going to be so difficult.
@namaste8719
@namaste8719 4 года назад
Oh dear, I hope you are better now. You should stop judging yourself. How can you say that you allowed that? You were small child, 9 years, 10, 11 even more. You were vulneruble because of the brother too. No one is ever guilty for being a victim. It is important to know that and to go to a good therapist. Also try a meditation. I am a yoga teacher and I know the benefits of meditation very well. There are also a lot of videos on youtube for mental strenghth. You will be better and stronger if you work on that, not to ignore it. I wish you a full recovery and you must know: it is not your fault, never! Lots od love and peace in your life ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
@1976athletico
@1976athletico Год назад
You should report it.
@ElectricSpokes
@ElectricSpokes Год назад
@@1976athletico what’s that going to do? Seriously. What will that do? Nothing. They won’t get in trouble. Past statute of limitations. It will only stir up horrible feelings. It won’t do a damn thing. One of them is past away anyway.
@serena3673
@serena3673 9 месяцев назад
First thing, please try to seek therapy if you're able to so that you can possibly learn how to handle these emotions before they eat through you like acid 🙏🏾💙
@valeok8357
@valeok8357 9 месяцев назад
@@ElectricSpokesYou should definitely report to a trusted adult like your parents or the police in that case, trust me, it might seem scary now but it’ll be the start of the peace you need for the rest of your life.
@GenX_Saves_America
@GenX_Saves_America Год назад
Who are these kids parents?
@kjdnyhmghfvb
@kjdnyhmghfvb 3 года назад
When they told her "to go home and think about it," They KNEW EXACTLY What he was doing.
@ElfisPerezLee
@ElfisPerezLee 2 года назад
How did this end?
@torynichols2413
@torynichols2413 6 лет назад
What a real life monster.
@i2ayden432
@i2ayden432 4 года назад
this is sad. i know this guy quite well.
@healthylifestylechanges7436
@healthylifestylechanges7436 6 лет назад
HERO NUMBER 1
@robertstarkssr7817
@robertstarkssr7817 4 года назад
That a sick old man
@Samueldonovan2007
@Samueldonovan2007 4 года назад
Back when Chris Cuomo actually reported the news :( I miss him
@bwangai
@bwangai 4 года назад
hes back
@youreverydaysaltyiowastate5602
@youreverydaysaltyiowastate5602 2 года назад
@@bwangai and just like that, he’s gone! 🤣 Bring your brother along, would ya!
@FUtube-h2y
@FUtube-h2y Год назад
Hes hot
@wandaclark5020
@wandaclark5020 5 месяцев назад
Terrible glad he spoke up for himself
@JeffRebornNow
@JeffRebornNow 6 лет назад
I hope they sued the shit out of that school, that principal should be jailed and stripped of his pension.
@alishadawn6636
@alishadawn6636 6 лет назад
JeffRebornNow u know its sad but had these had been women that spoke out some one would have listened
@annamaedevlin1713
@annamaedevlin1713 6 лет назад
BRAVO, to you!
@derxiong8304
@derxiong8304 3 года назад
I'm sorry what you've gone through. Be strong
@summerhill93
@summerhill93 12 лет назад
Well, tell him that he is a hero for me ... hopefully that horrid principal will be fired.
@PunkMartyr
@PunkMartyr 12 лет назад
Are you making this comment with any evidence that the man is now a homosexual? If not I'm truly appalled that you would victimize him again this way.
@msheckler1
@msheckler1 2 года назад
Why is the money that Sandusky made from sales of his books not being given to the victims of the abuse he has been convicted of engaging in?
@deeburk6693
@deeburk6693 5 лет назад
Those poor boys
@KeltoiMagus
@KeltoiMagus 5 лет назад
I was at this Penn State campus when this happened. The university and local police protect their own.
@davidh9844
@davidh9844 2 года назад
Shocking news, there.
@miissliissaa-maarriieesmiithyy
It's fully sick. Feel bad for him hope it opens people eyes to know it's not only happening to women men too wish I had the power to stop this from happening to anyone.
@mopbuckets4734
@mopbuckets4734 5 лет назад
im glad people like him are coming out ...
@DCFunBud
@DCFunBud 6 лет назад
Penn State should be permanently banned from intermural collegiate sport competition.
@DCFunBud
@DCFunBud 6 лет назад
Joe knew about it! They all knew about it! What a bunch of sniveling little cowards they all were. Boys were being raped for years under their noses for Christ sake!
@ichoosemysanity6467
@ichoosemysanity6467 4 года назад
This is crazy and horrible
@MsNene0408
@MsNene0408 Год назад
As a father I can only imagine the hurt in my child's eyes. Honestly dude wouldn't have made it to court because he would've been killed.
@SuperMattmonkey
@SuperMattmonkey 5 лет назад
What has being an Icon for something unrelated got to do with believing someone concerning a different aspect of their life? Does celebrity status change the law of human behaviour and conduct to excuse not at least finding out. Protecting anyone based on status is a temptation to use that status to do bad things. It is no co-incidence that many celebrities fall foul of this weakness and inexcusable advantage to have other people treated with lesser value. and take advantage of it. The number of cases alone make it a fact not a conspiracy or speculation. Imagine government officials with even greater protection, what could they or would they not do.
@oliviadanes4498
@oliviadanes4498 Год назад
I stood up to a man in work who repeatedly tried to be inappropriate and touch me, out of everyone who saw the incident that happened one day when he cursed me out no one wanted to be my witness or to help me often that is how it is when u initially stand up for the truth and justice you stand alone and unbelieved.
@clanceymoreino7023
@clanceymoreino7023 2 года назад
Funny how they had Chris Cuomo do this interview. How times have changed!
@Native0123
@Native0123 8 месяцев назад
It's a big red flag when a grown man is having sleep overs with boys. I never let my sons spend the night anyone's house.
@littleone-kh6mz
@littleone-kh6mz 5 лет назад
Why would his parents permit this to happen?
@aurav1376
@aurav1376 6 лет назад
The prosecutor should be charged and I guarantee the coach was in on it
@ryanhollifield7155
@ryanhollifield7155 Год назад
If I was the principal I would believe that kid because it could happen to any kid
@roottruthseeker
@roottruthseeker 6 лет назад
of course they don't believe you you're a grown as man at this point.
@plutoplatters
@plutoplatters 5 лет назад
We constantly let our " special people" Gods if you will... do whatever they want ! It will always be this way. It's always been that way.
@mbbssrinivas3175
@mbbssrinivas3175 11 месяцев назад
In class 12th .. I was going to my physics tuition classes ...there was jam on road( almost 100 people's with some vehicles also) when the jam opens up people's of both way hurry a middle class boy(age like 24) come with his cycle and a girl(like 18 or 19) with a black mask on her face. The cycle tire touches her pant and a little mud got on her pants ... she immediately SLAPS him multiple time ..he kept his hands on his face and go to another way( and 100s of people were watching) not a single person step up... after 5 min an old person come near him .... he was standing near a pole...then I also came from there to my tuition ( when I told this my friends they show no response).... I don't know what men feels but why don't our women step forward to protect our men( i know they want... no one is weak) MEN ALSO NEED HELP!! Because I can't find many videos on men molestation as youtube is MALE dominating..... I wrote it there...
@Foxsportsplayer17
@Foxsportsplayer17 23 дня назад
He is fired from coaching 0:44
@jarob7220
@jarob7220 6 лет назад
Too bad they don't do in depth human interests stories like this on World News anymore! It's now all fluff, B.S. and Trump!
@thenman23
@thenman23 6 лет назад
Ja & Rob hollywood is ran by pedophiles
@nuttybar9
@nuttybar9 6 лет назад
Leave Trump out of it you moron.
@blackknight3590
@blackknight3590 24 дня назад
I would've painted the "Sand" red, Sandusky that is.
@jeffpolaras9273
@jeffpolaras9273 6 лет назад
This makes me angrier than an alter boy at a Jerry Sandusky fundraiser...
@Lovergiirl48
@Lovergiirl48 Год назад
Lord i pray this never happens to my son cause I’m going to prison for capital murder!!! God bless this man who’s innocence was stolen by a predator & had the courage to tell his story on national TV
@taralea5697
@taralea5697 5 месяцев назад
Stunning... poor choice of word
@daniaa1602
@daniaa1602 6 лет назад
more evidence? men see rape as being weak so why would a man or boy lie about that? any jury who hears this would convict
@CJ-cc5jm
@CJ-cc5jm 4 года назад
If that were the case, someone could just claim you raped them and you get life in prison. Would you like that to happen to you? People do lie about rape all the time.
@ottogrant5100
@ottogrant5100 Месяц назад
Would they just stop calling him " the legendary" More like the infamous
@serpentserpent9308
@serpentserpent9308 3 месяца назад
W. African parents response to sleep overs: No
@pattawaay9243
@pattawaay9243 5 лет назад
Sandusky should of got a death sentence...Sandusky Is An Evil Evil Man😠😭😠
@davidh9844
@davidh9844 2 года назад
I'm sure he's being treated like a football hero in prison.
@aristocatsfan6700
@aristocatsfan6700 Год назад
That outta save dozens of more boys from Jerry Sandusky’s clutches.
@ShanesTubes
@ShanesTubes 6 лет назад
Things chomos say: this was my first time... I just wanted to talk... And please turn the camera off...
@YouTubeMaster1611
@YouTubeMaster1611 2 года назад
Law Abiding Citizen.
@julieankhan.2801
@julieankhan.2801 6 лет назад
Why didnt the coach who walked in on sandusky and a poor kid, go to the police?. He saw his superiors did nothing. Go to kid's mom, go to police. I would think kids would have stomach aches, and refuse to go to camp & games. In that day and age mothers should have talked to their kids about bad touch & tell. This wasnt the 1940s. It was 80s- the 90s. We knew about chomos then. Im not blaming the kids but adults.
@CTGnyc
@CTGnyc 4 года назад
ABC News' Fredo sits down with victim 1 to discuss the Sandusky trial and torment.
@zoidlloyd7736
@zoidlloyd7736 Год назад
That's strange I thought his target was female victims but guys ? Ew
@CJ-cc5jm
@CJ-cc5jm 4 года назад
Why are we talking about stuff like this so much and not the real rape that happens in the military every day? Tbose men are completely helpless. Some of them are only 18 and are raped but can't go to anyone for help because nobody will do anything about it. If a kid is raped he or she can easily call the police or something and then be saved. The ones in the military never get any help at all. Plus this happened a long time ago. If people would focus on what's happening now, maybe things would get better. Everyone is stuck in the past.
@joncampos8843
@joncampos8843 6 лет назад
Don’t mess with my toot toot. 🎶🎶
@ElfisPerezLee
@ElfisPerezLee 2 года назад
Poor boy I hope he is ok today
@INSIDEOFMYSELF
@INSIDEOFMYSELF 12 лет назад
i guess you do not know what happens to child molesters in jail :) i worked as a counsellor, and helped youth in the court system who were molested as children :) lets just say in jail...its an eye for an eye-no one hates criminals who are child molesters know more than the criminals themselves who have been locked up for a long time
@ichoosemysanity6467
@ichoosemysanity6467 4 года назад
Well they will protect Sandusky because of who he is. A regular average joe would get torn in half doing this pervert sick shyt
@UpdoggWhattt
@UpdoggWhattt Год назад
I thought it was Tosh 2.0 and going to be a comedy skit. 🤦🏻‍♂️
@Jeph_twice
@Jeph_twice 2 года назад
AOT fans only heard rumblings
@EdilaLewis
@EdilaLewis Месяц назад
Sandusky you are a hero to many thank you for speaking out
@FUtube-h2y
@FUtube-h2y Год назад
I need daddy chris cuomo in my life
@FUtube-h2y
@FUtube-h2y 11 месяцев назад
@user-hs3sr9ky5x yes dada
@dangercat9188
@dangercat9188 3 года назад
Reminds me of the movie mysterious skin.
@jovanieortiz782
@jovanieortiz782 3 года назад
People in power do what they want
@RebelPatriot355
@RebelPatriot355 3 года назад
🤔.... hey Fredo... gonna investigate your brother next?? Does he get a pass cuz he’s “bigger” than Coach Creep?? You’re the weak brother Fredo... you know it... the world knows it. 🇺🇸🇺🇸 #NoMasks
@munbanematt8342
@munbanematt8342 5 лет назад
1:45 Can wonky-eyed people see well?
@joegausch
@joegausch 4 года назад
Laughing all the way to the bank
@demetriharlan5887
@demetriharlan5887 Год назад
Sleep overs, where were the dam parents.
@lynnbaker2336
@lynnbaker2336 9 месяцев назад
Football, and sports in general, are the true gods of our society, along with money.
@noemihooks4328
@noemihooks4328 5 лет назад
Disgusting
@TalesFromTheCell
@TalesFromTheCell Год назад
Sounds like he really enjoyed it
@SMCwasTaken
@SMCwasTaken 2 месяца назад
Say that to a female victim
@Jasona1976
@Jasona1976 3 года назад
He'll feel much better after the millions in settlement he will receive.
@davidh9844
@davidh9844 2 года назад
No, you will. This man will never be the same! I don't care how much therapy he gets, there will always be that lingering question, "Maybe I really wanted it. Maybe I still want it. Maybe I imagined most of it. Maybe I'm queer. What if my friends think I'm queer?" No. Money will never compensate for what those kids went through. And adults, who are supposed to be protectors, let it happen over and over again. Money can't fix that. And shame on you for not comprehending that.
@Oldman808
@Oldman808 Год назад
Yes, one wonders whether without a financial incentive he’d been bothered by it.
@Jasona1976
@Jasona1976 Год назад
@@davidh9844 Nonsense
@mikewarden57
@mikewarden57 2 года назад
But, but, but,.........it's football!
@kendallboles3256
@kendallboles3256 2 года назад
They gon have to kill me
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