In an interview with Channel 2's Dana Weiss, Jerry Seinfeld shares his views on the #metoo movement, Louis C.K. and Harvey Weinstein. When Dana asked, "What's wrong with this industry?" Jerry responded, ""It's not the industry, honey..."
He saw what she was doing, turning this from an interview into him justifying all comedians behaviour. Brought her right back down off that high horse and back onto the same level as him.
Yeah he’s a genius he was being provocative back and just to the right level to piss her off but still be quite civilised. The man is a genius with words. And with his level of success he now gives zero fucks I believe his expression. He has no fear he will argue head on!
What a cheap cop out. They don't do it at work, at least not if they're professional. And they don't rape at work. This is just a shitty "boys will be boys" excuse. Lame as hell. He also goes down a digression about not understanding the crimes, as if that's the point. Jerry is a very very intelligent man. He dodged the question quite well.
I like how she tried to make a deal out of him calling her “honey”, and he was essentially like, “ yeah, we’re not doing that.” She was wise to let it go. 😂
Women have condescendingly called me "baby" and "sweetie" but I don't hear women speaking out about that. It's only when it goes the other direction that they suddenly care.
@@zachhiggins3321so it's ok bc of size difference? No man. First most abuse is verbal. 2nd egregious abuse doesn't often begin with size difference but with other power differences incl intimidation, gaslighting, etc. Words matter at least as much as size.
It's not exclusive to "the industry", but "the industry" is a particularly fertile environment for this kind of bad behavior to fester in. Having one person that needs another person to get ahead in a setting in which favoritism is practically the only thing required, that's a recipe for bullying and abuse.
@@meebrbey lol please explain the difference. You can in a work environment, because there is clearly defined appropriate behavior at work. But this is in the open world where people are free to be who they are. Harassment is in the eye of the beholder, aka, is she attracted to you
Jerry is very good at isolating a question and answering it directly and not being suckered into a debate. He’s funny and a good listener and a very talented comedian. Glad I grew up around his show.
@@WaryofextremesOG How about don't fuck the creeps and choose another career? Nobody owes you a career of a movie star. The majority of women made it without fucking around. Maybe don't go down the easy way? Marilyn Monroe started her entire career by making nude shots and choosing a very sexual styling. She chose the easy way of a bimbo and was surprised that she was treated like one?
@@alexmuenster2102reminded me on the time Phil Hartman interviewed Jerry on Newsradio. And while side in principle with the reporter, it felt like she was trying to put him in the spot. Jerry is smart and you can have a great interview without having to resort to that
There's a place and time for everything. In this, it's different from a server trying to earn tips. Just like wiping your privates in the toilet is more appropriate than doing it in public
Her wheels were turning, he saw that and got her with that question by having her admit what is one of the most fundamental truths about human behavior before she could twist it and make him look bad. Jerry will always be a genius
She is trying so very hard to bait him into saying something he'll regret. He sees the game and calls her on it repeatedly. What's impressive is that he does it in a way that simultaneously indicates that he won't be pushed around but at the same time doesn't come off as defensive or petty. He doesn't rise to her provocation. That's tough to do on your feet.
I don't know what interview you watched, but I saw an interviewer ask questions, and Seinfeld giving very thoughtful answers. I did like however how he insisted she'd respond to his "right?", because he probably knows that "men and women chase after each other" nowadays is something people find sounding controversial without having a good reason for it. People are being overly cautious these days because a lot of people do not fully understand what's going on. Some people give up entirely while the movement is a good one. It seems Seinfeld genuinely understands.
The fact that all of you think that what this man is doing is admirable only says you're part of the problem. And yeah, I get that at least one of you appears to be a woman. He could have condemned what was going on without caving to sensationalism, and instead said that men being predatory is just human nature. Gross.
@@selincaka2088 That's not what he said. He said that men and women behaving sexually around each other is human nature. And no, that's not the same as condoning being predatory.
'Every city's the same, right? ' Well, that one has the most crime by far... 'RIGHT!?' I guess so... (looks to side and wants to leave). Yeah, Jerry. I'm sure a lot of doctors and McDonald's franchisees got their start by bl0wing someone on camera and having that held over them for years, like a surprisingly large number in the entertainment industry.
That was the best part, she realised that woman have agenda too in life and want to go up not down in social status, so they chase the hot top of the food chain guys; but it was a clash of two things: reality and her objective; and there was fear: am I doing the right thing agreeing with this reality??? error, error, system shutdown in 3, 2 ... 😄😄😄😄
@@zachhiggins3321 "Yelled"? LOL what a snowflake. He raised his voice slightly since she didn't answer the first time. At no point during this interview was he wrong.
@@zachhiggins3321You think "men and women chase after each other" is not a point that stands on its own? I can hardly think of a more obvious tautology.
My God, how much I loved that second "RIGHT?". She wasn't going to concede anything, not even that men and women could voluntarily have sex with each other.
Okay, Jerry, but some men are doling out lottery winning money and careers, and ruining actresses working lives. Yeah, a manager at a burger joint might want to flirt with or touch a young woman there, but when she rebuffs him he can't make it so she doesn't ever work with food again.
He's 100% right - every time there's an incident the narrative is "X industry/institution has a sexual harassment issue". No. There's nothing peculiar about that industry. Any place where rich, powerful and influential men are working with women, you have the same issue, whether its the armed services, academia, entertainment, business, law, government, religion or the local library. And it's not a cultural thing either. The same thing happens everywhere around the world and throughout history. But the media can't make hay around something that's been happening since the beginning of time. They have to insist that that particular industry has an issue.
I think the film industry highlights it due to the huge difference between the desperation of the women involved and the power of the executive who was taking advantage of that. It still doesn't make complete sense to me. Like if you got all the starlets in LA right now and had them do a survey asking them if they would polish off a fat, nasty old film exec for a big role, (assuming they were honest) how many of them would say yes? I'd be willing to bet it'd be a double digit percentage. I get Weinstein was a scumbag for exploiting that throughout most of his career but people need to stop acting like this is new or some modern phenomenon. I guess what gets me is that (presumably) every woman who did sexual favors for Weinstein was doing it completely willingly. What kind of agency does the woman who consents to this have? Sure the executive is exerting power over her, but is she not exerting her natural power over him also? If it's a consensual agreement, then both parties are agreeing that it's a fair exchange. If the woman has the power to say no then is she victimized? If the woman understands what she stands to gain, is she a victim? I guess you can argue that the Hollywood starlet didn't have a choice because of their career aspirations, but that doesn't exactly hold water. Prostitutes willingly do the same thing for money, is this really that different? The difference is the starlet gets a role that massively advances her career and makes her lots of money, the prostitute gets a couple hundred bucks. Not to mention the women in the workforce who are willing to try to be seductive for career gain whether the guy initiates it or not. It's absolutely a two way street. There have been women willing to "F their way to the top" throughout all of history, especially modern history. Where's the line where the woman is wrong and malicious and where the man is?
Do women really chase after men the way men do though would be the follow up. In a corporate setting how many times have you heard of females sexually harassing males, and if so, how many would even have a problem with it.
@@hanselthecaretaker Just because men don’t have a problem with it doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen all the time. Women say and do just as much, if not more, sexist things than men because they know they get away with it every time. Women have a real problem being called “honey” but won’t bat an eye to a man being called the same thing by a woman. It isn’t anything to do with sexism, feminism, etc., they just like to complain and act the victim most of the time.
@@haleyxyznobody forced anyone into doing anything. Your brain doesn't stop developing until you're in mid-20s. Does that mean all teens and young adults shouldn't date anyone or only date each other within the same age groups? That's bias.
'Every city's the same, right? ' Well, that one has the most crime by far... 'RIGHT!?' I guess so... (looks to side and wants to leave). Yeah, Jerry. I'm sure a lot of doctors and McDonald's franchisees got their start by bl0wing someone on camera and having that held over them for years, like a surprisingly large number in the entertainment industry.
That idea could be when someone sees him for the first time but really anything in the world needs a hell lot of expertise to make it simple for the common people......that's what his style is, a seemingly simple comedy which has an insight and a way of presenting such that it seems childish. Neither Jerry's comedy nor the show Seinfeld is just simple...it's actually very intelligently put up act and ahead of its time the show
@@darrellkramer8097 yes he and lary David wrote lot of the early episodes. And even when they finally had other writers, he and Larry had to aprove every story before it was written and they rewrote/ edited a lot of the script both before and after filming. (i say after because most episodes were written to fit about 40 minutes then edited down to 22.
You know he’s a billionaire right? Lol usually they aren’t idiots. However, Jerry is not only smart but a straight forward and morally strong human being. Hence why this didn’t turn into a basic bait, trap, and argument.
Exactly. Women say ‘Sweetheart’ in the same context. Is that sexist? No. She wanted to make it seem so, and he just brushed her off. With no leg to stand on, she moved on. She can’t show this to make him seem sexist because objectively it isnt. Bill Burr used that too to a female heckler, and it didnt give him any trouble. That’s precisely the problem with cancel culture; people are scared to use a lot of common-use expressions for fear of being canceled. The trick is not to be baited into defending it in a way that makes it seem sexist; because That, more than the word is what will get you. The expression is just that, an idiom.
'Every city's the same, right? ' Well, that one has the most crime by far... 'RIGHT!?' I guess so... (looks to side and wants to leave). Yeah, Jerry. I'm sure a lot of doctors and McDonald's franchisees got their start by bl0wing someone on camera and having that held over them for years, like a surprisingly large number in the entertainment industry.
@@stretch90 I think he's telling the truth. Its why he differentiats between "seeing something" and being surprised when it all came out. He knew it was happening, just never saw it happening in front of him. I also think a lot of people knew stuff but didn't realize how bad that stuff was. Kevin Smith talks about knowing Weinstein cheated on his wife but thought that's all it was. I also don't think he's being defensive. Just straight to the point.
Jerry's point in a nutshell: perverts are like leprechauns. They simply don't exist. Clearly he still lives in his Superman fantasy world. He sounds like a child.
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="55">00:55</a> i love how he forces her to admit the obvious instead of just asking the questions and putting all the liability on him. that's gold, jerry... 'ts gold!!!
Me too lol. Too often the corner person just keeps talking facts they then pick the least important to sedate thinking it offsets all the important points. Good move Jerry, maybe lots experience dealing with self serving sneaky people or something. Not chasing anyone's approval has enough of a support base and F U money not to need it.
Whenever a feminist attacks me, I say "Tell me about the strong womyn who built the home you live in." I got a 10 day Facebook suspension for that one.
@@mostafasherif9209 I have a new, safer response: "As a man, I am not allowed to engage with you in any kind of meaningful, honest discussion on this matter. Call it a win if you want, but I think we all lose."
@@sheateeley1 your only calling him a prick because he defended himself intelligently. If he had not, you would be calling him a schmuck. I think he would rather be called a prick than a schmuck.
Fuck you money, unparalleled success and confidence is bullet proof. Larry David says that he wishes he could be the character he portrays on Curb. I think it's Jerry who's his inspiration whether he realizes it or not.
She's so used to just being able to say "You just called me 'honey'" and get the guy to crawl up in a fetal position and say he's sorry, that when he just responds with "yep" she has absolutely nothing.
@@alexman378 the best response would’ve been to say something like “oh in English it’s not only a food but a term of endearment.” Subtly implying you her that she shouldn’t try to school people about their native tongue.
@David Bowens you have the most accurate answer. Kids get called honey too. He was basically remarking on her naïveté. But bless her heart though. Sheesh. 🙄
@Stuart Beatty How can you not be aware that an idiom doesn't exclusively mean the same thing as the literal definition of the words in it? "Bless your heart" is an idiom so commonly used in certain regions that it no longer has exclusively religion meaning. How can you not know that? Are you just pretending to be obtuse?
In November 2021, C.K. was nominated for the Grammy Award for Best Comedy Album for his special Sincerely, Louis C.K ... that tells you everything you need to about that industry.
@sbowesuk I don't know if mentioning honey is disrespectful in anyway, it just wouldn't be in a formal conversation one would have with a president or queen. It is taking the liberty to be casual in your conversation. And I see elders addressing younger ones often irrespective of gender. I have been addressed 'honey' by elderly waitresses and she is no celeb.
He's 100% right. This is in every industry, in every part of life. Its in the film Industry, its in education, its in coaching, its in the financial world, its in the arts, its in health care........its a humanity problem not one specific industry.
Not "humanity," society and particular institutions. Some are worse than others. His denial that he ever saw anything inappropriate is completely ridiculous. This is a guy who dated a HIGH SCHOOLER when he was fucking 38 years old.
@@tryingtotryistrying I'm not sure we disagree on anything. Harvey Weinstein, Bill Cosby, this latest shit with Prince Andrew... these are not cases of "men and women chasing each other." They are exercises of power that happen to involve sex. That's not to trivialize the sex, because sex as an expression of power is fundamentally violent and traumatic. Seinfeld was in a consensual relationship with someone just over the age of consent, so legally he's in a different category. But his *dismissal* of the wave of #metoo revelations right as they emerge tells you a lot. It takes Jerry Seinfelds (powerful men) looking the other way for Harvey Weinsteins to do what they do.
Yea youre right so lets take your daughter to the casting couch for a try out! Oh wait, you'd be more comfortable if she was working at a law firm, hostessing/waitressing, or even tryed her hand at construction work? Oh gee, why is that?
@Fog Bear yikes man. A life of rejection given you a bitter outlook huh. Sexism only looks bad on you, it doesn't make a difference in how things actually are. You're allowed to live with your hate and bitterness, that's your right, im just not sure why you'd want to.
Yup, he took all the power back with that second "right?" He made her say yes. She basically submitted to a Harvey weinatein move lmfao its what makes it so funny.
@@tmk9646 if that's enough to bother someone it's because they just want to feel bothered. Their entire wardrobe should have bubble wrap in the lining. Contrary to what some may believe.. fragility is not chic.
She’s talking to him like he’s a pawn following a script, the man’s a creative genius. He writes his own scripts produces his own shows, he doesn’t have to compromise or play ball to get quality content.
Immediate double standard detected. If a man calls a woman "honey", it is sexual harassment or bigotry or sexist or toxic masculinity etc. If a woman calla a man "honey" perfectly acceptable.
Pierre-Marc Drouin yeah. That was bothering me too. But 'Seinfeld loses it on female reporter' gets more hits than 'A comedian and journalist exchange enlightening words on gender relations'
His tone is patronizing and gross. To me her neutral/passive demeanor let him reveal himself. Albeit, I kind of wish they had a different interviewer that put him in his place.
@@randomhalfbreed3239 i think it's funny that you are attempting to criticize a comedian without knowing one of the basic fundamentals of humor, which is that it is subjective. nobody cares if you find him funny or not. he tells jokes for a living, so he is a comedian. its not a difficult concept.
Get your facts straight. Jerry Seinfeld dated 18 year old Shoshanna Lonstein who he first met when she was 17. Lonestein has never expressed any regrets about the relationship or feelings that she was taken advantage of. The idea that an 18 year can’t be mature enough to date an older man is ridiculous. Some are not mature enough but many are. Today Lonstein is a successful fashion designer.
@@commentingisawasteoftime7195 how did he groom her? And how old was she when he started to "approach" her? And what difference does it make if a girl of 17 years and 11 months old dates an adult man?
@@kathryncainmadsen5850 he wasn't being condescending - we was making sure she didn't get away with vague comments in order to score points off him later. Some people act as if any time men and women are involved with each-other is some kind of sick power game by men - it's bullshit; so I can see why he'd want her to admit that there's nothing inherently wrong with 'chasing around after one another' so she can't later manipulate his answers.
Jerry Seinfeld dated a 17 year old when he himself was 38. So I can't help but feel like he's an unreliable narrator. Also, isn't it true that sexual misconduct is very common in the entertainment industry, when compared to other fields? I could be wrong about that, but it is something I have heard and it seems like the case when you keep hearing about these things.
While still a 17-year-old high school student, she met then 38-year-old Jerry Seinfeld in a public park. At that point, Seinfeld got her phone number. 🤡
@@rdwrdw3672 Doesn't matter age of consent is like 16 in most states, its just feminist cannon fodder, if it were an 17 year old lesbian dating a 24 year old lesbian and they went to the prom they would be declared heroes, oh wait that actually happened.
@@zachhiggins3321 Its not a strawman and most of the people with a age difference problem are millennials or Zoomers who dont remember marriage between 17 year olds and 30 year old men being not so uncommon. As of right now 5 of every 1000 marriages are below the age of 18, which is much higher than your chance of winning the lottery.
Dude who dated a kid as a 38 year old man and said that she was actually on the old side while confronted about it on TV claims he never saw anything. Sure.
The most tense interview I’ve ever seen him give. Could it be because he dated someone who was 17 when he was 38 and he REALLY doesn’t wanna talk about that? 😂😂😂
@@deductivereasoning4257 You mean the interviewer, right? Seinfeld owes nothing to the seedy showbiz world. Dude basically did one job in Hollywood for 9 short years and it made him pretty much a billionaire. He doesn't need their approval and you can tell because he doesn't bow to any of them.
@@mneugent7658 "Seinfeld owes nothing to the seedy showbiz world." He's plenty seedy himself. He is as much part of their fucked up values as anyone else there.
I like that he managed to make her laugh while talking about such a serious thing. Navigating sensitive topics isn’t even what he’s known for but he handled this well.
True but the sad part is that his point is the he didn't see it. Her point is that's not the same as it's not there. This difference largely amounts to whether "x" is something that may happen to you. That's the sad part.
She laughed because she is not used to being challenged on her whiny bullshit. She'll shit-talk him afterwards privately to her fellow, HR-centric allies. But she'll smile at him if she ever sees him again.
@@johnassal5838 He straight up did not say "it's not there". She asked him if he saw any inappropriate conduct and he said no. And again, it matters what we define as inappropriate conduct. That's he why said that there was a lot of behavior in general that he disagreed with. I mean you watched the interview yourself and you completely failed to understand what *he* was saying. But moreover, she's 100% not there to make a point to him or educate him on anything. That's not her place. She's a journalist. She's there to get his thoughts and reactions on certain matters. The real shame is that people don't realize the danger involved here in how she could take his earnest answers and twist them. "Seinfeld defends sexual misconduct of friend and college".
By starting with calling her honey which is harassment 😂Jerry was part of the whole scene with Harvey 😂what do all these men have in common they're Jewish 😂the most vile race of people to ever live
He did it to make a point I am sure. Context being one of them. To isolate this issue as an "industry issue" when it is an issue of the human condition entirely...well bless your heart. It's naive and he spoke to her like he knew she was smarter than that.