Everyone wants to bring up that Logan has a fiancé in the revival, but no one mentions that Rory had a boyfriend that she cheated on for the whole thing.
She didn’t want to break up with him, she just thought it wasn’t the time, she wanted to get married with him but not yet... he was the one that broke up with her
Yes omg everyone thinks the bad boys should win but people need to think who is best for Rory and who can provide and make Rory happy! Jess might have made Rory happy on episodes but Logan went out of his way to make Rory happy!
@@gracepheobesworld1060 heyy! What I understood from this comment is that even though jess barely got a season and logan three seasons, jess still managed to be more appealling to the public, therefore proving he would be better. I do believe jess is better than logan in a lot of aspects.
Jess was the inspiration which woke up Rory to return to college and always encourages her to wake up. So I vote for Jess, and he is a very independent person.
True but it wouldn't be fair if Rory is with Jess just because he encourages her I have close friends that r boys who help me and understand me well it doesn't mean I should be with that person. I only want them to be together if Rory is genuinely in love with Jess, and it's quite clear she is still in love with Logan.
No, I don't know if you remember, but she rejected Jess because she was in love with Logan. She rejected Logan's proposal because she wasn't ready for marriage, it was too soon for her. Logan asked for all or nothing (which was quite out of the character) and she chose to let him go, but she was definitely still in love with him. If they do revival after revival, I hope they end up together. I've always seen them as Richard and Emily, and if I remember correctly, Richard was engaged to be married too, but he ended up with Emily. And I really think Rory and Logan are soulmates. Jess will always be a very good friend and he deserves to move on with someone else.
I like Jess. He had a rough childhood with an addict, unstable mom and absent father. If Luke had more of a chance in raising him from childhood he may have been better behaved. Growing up without feeling loved and grounded is tough. He had a lot of pain. He truly loves Rory. And their chemistry was great.
It wasn't about money .Jess was unreliable, missed her prom, never called left town never told her. Was rude caused her to break her arm. Was rude to Loralie, . Manipulative, pure crap.
Team Jess Mariano since the first day he arrived in Stars Hallow. Fight me on it I don't care. Logan cheated to much and got drunk when he couldn't handle things, yes Jess left when he couldn't but that's because he grew up thinking he was always the problem. I have a lot more to say but I'll leave it here.
Jess is the best I don’t know why the writers make the story seem like is Logan the love of her life 🤷♀️. He cheated se on her, she changed her true personality while being with him and he didn’t seem to be worry about her life . Jess on the other hand reacted like all the people who truly love Rory ( like lorelai Paris ) reacted when she said she drop out of Yale. Jess was very worry about her future and how she changed completely. He encouraged her to what was right.
@@user-rq4on9zl2b she didn't change, that's who she was/is. People don't get that she is not Lorelai, she loved the Gilmore's world and the choices she made, all of them, were her life choices. Logan told her to take time to decide if she wanted to leave Yale. She decided to leave Yale, to steal a boat, to leave Lorelai's house and move in with Richard and Emily, to be the other woman of two guys, to cheat on Paul and had sex with the wookie.
THIS!!! People who are like “he left Rory!” Bitch he was 16 YEARS OLD!!! Like???? Give the guy a break, a lot of people make stupid decisions or hurt people they love when they’re not emotionally mature enough to handle things yet. What matters is: He is her equal, he understands her, they connect, he grew up and really applied himself bc of her influence, he became a writer and publisher and all around terrific man, and he’s helped Rory get her shit together multiple times. The way they challenge each other omg. Logan encouraged and enabled the worst things about Rory and she became a worse person with him.
Jess, that is not even an question. But Jess might deserve better than Rory now, even Milo pointed that out and I have to agree. I love Jess and Rory, but I hated what they did to her after S4 and she hasn't changed much since, where Jess really grew up.
okay but jess did sweet things for rory and everyone seems to forget about it. like has everyone forgotten the care package??? the 22.8 miles yahoo thing???? how was he supposed to get rory a birkin bag if he had no money like someone just-
exactly jess didn't have money and was able to get to know the real Rory and logan was j there to buy her expensive things and barely even knew her I prefer Jess they j met together at the wrong time.
HE PULLED TOWN PRANKS FOR HER AND COMMITTED A RANDOM ACT OF KINDNESS TO LUKE WHEN SHE SCOLDED HIM ABOUT IT AND BOUGHT HER CONCERT TICKETS AND HOT DOGS AND RECORDS, LIKE C’MON MSMOJO!! YOU LEFT OUT SM!!
Jess was able to give Rory so many things when no other could. She return to Yale because of Jess and start to write the book in the Revival because of him. He directs her to the right channels when she needs it to.
Yes, as a good friend. She sees him as a friend from the moment she fell in love with Logan. She wasn`t even confused about her feelings, it has always been Logan for her. And it`s obvious that Logan and Rory still love each other, they just aren`t ready to admit it to themselves and have chosen not to open up about their feelings because of their fear of rejection and heartbreak. It was obvious they were holding back themselves. That`s why their goodbye was so heartbreaking. If there is a new season to come, I hope they`ll end up together, cause they`re meant to be, plus they`re having a baby. Their first episode together was named `Written in the stars` and I don`t think it`s a coincidence.
@@snowman200710 I was so speechless when Jess told Rory that he loved her, and it was so unpredictable. Unlike in season 6, when Logan says he loves Rory, it was very predictable. I actully had guessed that Logan would've said that he loved her when he would incounter her next.
@@snowman200710 u do realize that it was so unlike logan's character to say i love you too right? he even said it himself. logan learned to have a serious relationship because of rory and encouraged her to come out of her shell and take a leap of faith.
Jess has a way more genuine love for her, he didn't use to make big gesture, it was all about the little ones, but he cared about her, and loved her the way he knew how to love. Jess is a lot more humble too
@@glamourgirl9988 yeah I can see that... I feel like he was all about big gestures, it was his way of showing love... Jess's is def physical touch and acts of service...
I thought Jess treated her like shit - not like he didn’t come back nicer but still shit bf and he is now technically related to her since Luke married her mom who is his uncle
@@rachelasf2125 oh please. This cousin argument makes me genuinely laugh because for me this makes no sense. I agree he wasn't the best boyfriend, he did not treated her like she deserved, that Is true sometimes, but he was the best he could, if you think about that boy's background. I think it's so important to realize that he does get a lot better, and it's not fair Judging his character for only when he was at his worst, the guy said he knew he wasn't there for her before, but he could be now and he was. He was there for her even if they werent together anymore. He just genuinely cared and wanted her to be happy and turns out that, at end, is Rory who don't deserves him, who hurts him. I love Jess, I really do, I think is a great character, can't say that about Logan though, for me he never actually got "it", never was that big deal, I guess Amy tried bringing another Tristan but I didn't worked for me, Sorry. It makes me happy to think Jess is the only option that makes sense to end up with her in the revival. Even though I think he was too Good for her.
@@samarasantana9411 Luke is Jess’ uncle and now he is rory’s step father so introducing ppl would be funny. He is your step father and your bf’s uncle. Creepy to me. And I don’t think Rory seemed remotely interested in Jess even when she tried to cheat on Logan in the show she wasn’t into kissing Jess anymore
Logan all the way In my head Logan was all Dean, Jess and Tristan in one. Logan is rich and is a lady’s man like Tristan, smart like Jess and has similar interests with her like Jess did and he was nice and caring towards her and her family like Dean.
While i am team Logan all the way i would like to point out that you missed a few romantic gestures on Jess's part. He broke the snowman that was supposed to win so rory's would win. He cleaned the gutters for lorelei (Though people dont count this one i do) he picked up the bracelet that Dean made Rory even though he could have just left it there. And he genuinely listened to her. Yes Logan was good at the big expensive gestures but Jess got the romance side of it. Also it didnt take Rory getting angry for him to show he cared
destroying the other snowman is not romantic, it's just mean. The other guy worked hard on that, so why wouldn't they just let him win? He deserved it.
Kristina Ma Rory didn't view it as mean. Shouldn't you be holdibg him to Rory's standards and not your own? Lorelai was rather blasé about the other snowman's destruction too.
I will always like Jess more. Don't get me wrong Logans great but Rory was never her best self with him and he never really had the faith in her that Jess did. Not to mention Logan cheated on Rory. Jess was the only guy who didn't cheat or make Rory cheat. She did kiss him once when she was with Logan which she didn't mention to Jess. Jess' character development was the best and he seemed like a better fit for Rory.
Jess wasn't always his best self with Rory and he didn't make her the best herself either. She did cheat with Jess. It may not have been physical but it was blatantly and most often publicly emotional cheating which can be just as painful. That was the entirety of their interactions in his first season. Rory wasn't emotionally faithful to Dean even he knew it. I'm really sick of Jess being seen like some kind of hero while Logan is a villain. Jess had his chance and he blew it. Jess got drunk one night and tried to push Rory into doing something she said she did not want to do then and there. Jess got scared of his feelings and he literally ran away from Rory without saying a thing to her both to her face which we all know he had the chance to do so and then when he called her but he didn't ever say anything. Jess showed up months later and asks her to run away WITH him. He wanted her to abandon Yale, her mother, and her entire life to just run away. That's not romantic. That's not allowing her to be her best self. Yet a few years later when she's having doubts because of the rejection that Rory got from Logan's family even though he both defended and warned her about it, Jess shows up out of the blue sees Rory and YELLS in her face for all of the bad choices SHE made but like everyone else blamed on Logan then he left again. Logan may have been an ass that night but he stood up for himself when Rory walked back into the bar and used the out Jess handed to her by trying to place all of her mistakes in his hands. Logan said he told her that maybe quitting Yale wasn't a good idea just like it wasn't a good idea to take the internship from his father. However, Logan didn't let her blame him for her mistakes and bad choices just because he stood by her while she did them as if that was a bad thing. She did good and bad things a lot but Logan didn't come in and out of her life when things got tough. Rory did the same for Logan but he didn't believe that Rory thought they were still together when he did what she categorised as cheating. He made a mistake and she took him back but still wanted to punish him by getting her revenge with Jess who she misled in Philly. Yet that is the most important moment in both Rory's relationship with Jess and Logan. Rory said that Logan was the one because no matter what he did she was in love with him, she couldn't help it which was the same way that Logan loves Rory, no matter what SHE did, he was always in love with her because he couldn't help it either. Not one of them was better than the other.
@@whiteboyrick6107 I understand her of coursee. But put yourself in logans situation, wasnt his intentions. Was not good of his part but with no intentions!!
The thing is that Jess grown up beautifully (not talking about those arms). In matter of fact, he always was a mature soul (even on teenage years) and that's why he beat Logan so easily. Logan's way to deal with problems is run away and get drunk with silly friends. Even in the revival he was cheating on his fiancee. In the other hand, Jess was wiser and supportive. Good God, you gotta love this boy.
Zoie Svensk Yeah, he got the best character development but seriously, it's probably because he was not around as consistently in Rory's life as Logan was because unlike Jess, Logan didn't run away from Rory or their relationship even though he was scared from the start which is why he didn't ask out Rory because Logan DIDN'T want to hurt Rory unintentionally because he knew her and was upfront with her from the beginning. Logan gets a lot of the blame for Rory's bad decisions as if she suddenly started making bad moves after she met him and only when she was around him but that's not true at all which is something we all know... Rory losing her virginity to a married man and DEFENDING her actions by bad mouthing the wife both before and after she broke up the marriage had nothing to do with anybody but Rory and Dean. Also to be honest... the best character development of all was Dean because he got away from Rory and her bad judgment, decisions, and actions. People judge Logan for Rory quitting Yale because he didn't yell at her then walk away or refuse to speak to her for months like Jess and her mother. No, he had the strength to love her even when she was making mistakes but knew that she had to figure that out on her own. Nobody remembers that Logan defended Rory to his family from the first time they treated her badly which was the first time they met her but nobody remembers that Lorelai was prejudice against Logan for years because he came from her "parents' world" the same way she hated that Rory applied to Yale and other schools besides Harvard. Lorelai, Luke, and Jess never factored in that they held Rory up on such a high pedestal that they refused to believe anything she did wrong was "not Rory" so they often pointed at outside sources like Logan and her grandparents who stuck by her good or bad, or rather imperfect or perfect. So maybe start viewing all of the characters as they were and what they weren't.
imperfectlypretty, thank you for that! I absolutely agree. I watched the series as a full grown adult the first time (two years ago). And from the start, I didn't get all the fuss about Jess! He brought out Rory's bad sides as well - it wasn't Logan who did that (like, making her skip school and stuff) and during their relationship, Jess mostly treats her quite badly. I feel like all he and Rory ever did was arguing and he seemed a pretty big asshole most of the time. Plus, he did always run away from her too. Maybe in later seasons he got more mature as he left his anger behind.... But I still do believe Logan was the better boyfriend (not in the revival though, which makes me kinda sad).
@@ElvisRose_ exactly Logan wasn't exactly a paramount of wisdom and judgement... but he was not to blame for her other mistakes. He did however stick by her side and give her freedom to choose instead of holding her up on a pedestal. And I think he actually grounded her a bit too. He gently nudged her, without pressuring her.
Mangan2504 For reasons I don’t think I will ever understand Jess is the guy that is thought of as “the one” for Rory while Logan is pegged as the guy who is to blame for her bad decisions. It is a huge pet peeve of mine that Jess gets a great deal of credit for Rory’s successes and Logan gets all of the blame for her failings. Rory almost is a non factor for the good and bad things she has done in her own life. It also really bugs me when anyone says that Logan is Christopher while Jess is Luke because I think these characters are far too complex to make comparisons on generalizations such as family money, schooling etc. However, if I had to go down that route then I would certainly flip the two guys based off the way they have treated Rory. Logan is the guy who stuck by her side whether she was making good or bad choices no matter what his opinion was of those things. He was not going to judge her because she was questioning life and her future like a great deal of college kids; he certainly didn’t give up on her for changing. Logan loves Rory unconditionally. Also, I am surprised that people have a debate about which guy should be with Rory considering the fact that since she met him the only guy she’s wanted to be with is Logan.
Logan encourages all of the Rory's "bad" traits. He gives her whatever she wants with no repercussions - if she needs a place to stay, he finds her one - if she needs a job, he finds her one - she doesn't have to take responsibility for anything around Logan. Jess encourages her to take ownership of her own life and to trust herself. Jess all the way!
You mean they both met at a time in life when they were both immature? Yeah. But does he supports her even when she makes bad choices? Yeah, I guess he does try to help her or be there for her. Because clearly Rory was struggling... and he went through it with her. He also makes an effort to learn and grow... He actually tries to show up for her, for them, even when things get hard... They talk through problems together. While Jess just ran away all the time and belittled everything Rory aspired to be. Rory and Logan have bad traits, but the key is that when they were together, they balanced out and grew up.
I feel like Jess was the only actually good character. I mean, everyone was good but Lorelai and Rory cheated, and were a bit selfish as the seasons went on. They kinda down-graded. As Jess, I didn't really like him at the beginning. As the seasons went on though, I feel (and most do) like he totally improved. He got better. He became such a interesting character. Unlike most characters in GG, he pulled himself together.
@@chinnn2709 i meant he was the only one with good character development. Rory just fell off and Lorelai was good, but her storyline after season 6 was awful. it seemed a bit OOC for her to cheat on Luke and it seemed OOC for Luke to be so... rude to Lorelai in season 6.
I agree. In the sequel series, Jess had gotten his life together and was doing well. I didn't him in the original series, but in the sequel, I thought that he was too good for Rory.
Jess had a bad home life. I know this is no excuse but he did eventually grow up into a beautiful young man! Logan had no development. Jess never cheated. Logan cheated on Rory and with Rory. He is no good. And to top it off. Rory rejected his proposal. ALSO! IN THE SECOND ONE, YOU FORGOT WHEN JESS WAS GONNA TAKE HER OUT AFTER THE HOCKEY GAME!! AFTER SHE WAS SAD. And logan was A BAD INFLUENCE. Notice how Rory changed worse when Logan came in her life?
Rory was to perfect before. So what, she jumped with an umbrella, she got arrested, who gives a fuck. Before she met Logan she never took any risks. "Some people live for a hundred years without actually living for a minute."
@Maya Beck They weren't right for each other in the end, Rory kissed Jess when she and Logan had got back together but straight after she realised how much she loved Logan and not him anymore
I think Jess' mum was ok... Maybe a little irresponsible. He just didn't have a dad and he is so smart and strong-minded that her mum was not much of a support for his character. I don't think he had a *bad* homelife, clearly his mom loved him very much although she's not the best expample of a stable adult.
@Maya Beck The girls he slept with did not think that, it showed in the wedding of Logans sister. He was upset and sad so he released it in his own way in which I find understandable
I agree with you completely, he doesn't love her, he shouldn't marry her to follow some dynstic plan that he doen't like in the first place. I know he would want to be with Rory and their baby; i'm sure the baby is his.
@@cotygv I totally agree Logan clearly isn't in love with Odette because if he was he wouldn't have cheated on her, but I know Logan and once he finds out Rory is pregnant with his baby he is going to try and get Rory back.
I love Rory, buuutttttt yes, Logan and Rory have three things in common, One: Both well read, Two: They are both smart enough to get into Yale. Three: Both are horrible cheaters on loyal spouses.
I disagree. I’ve always been a Jess/Rory shipper until I really had a chance fo look back and consider more deeper things this video lacks. To copy and paste something I read on Tumblr: You know what Logan gives Rory that no one else does? Autonomy. Logan has always always always respected Rory’s choices. Rory drops out of Yale? Logan doesn’t like it but knows Rory is an adult who can make her own decisions. Rory decides to take an internship with his dad? Warns Rory what Mitchum is like but doesn’t stop her. Before having sex with Rory? Asks for verbal consent- twice. When Rory wants to date him? Tells her upfront that he’s not a boyfriend guy so she has the chance to back off. Logan is literally the only person in Rory’s life that respects Rory can make decisions on her own, regardless of whether he thinks she’s right or wrong. / I agree with this. Logan has supported Rory in a mature and unique way considering how all her love interests and how relationships had. You say Jess had the most growth? I think not. He just shed some of that teenage bad boy bitchiness. People often parallel Rory’s life with her mothers. Think Jess is her Luke. But I think her parallels more come from Richard and Emily. To grab another Tumblr post: Emily and Richard met at Yale. Richard was engaged to someone his family approved of, while Emily was the other woman. Richard broke his engagement to be with Emily. Maybe Rory and Logan are Emily and Richard, not Lorelei and Christopher.
I couldn't agree more with you on all points - but especially on the parallel of Rory and Logan to Emily and Richard. I actually do like Jess as a character and think Milo is adorable but for me, Logan is the only guy that makes sense for Rory.
I wonder if they’ll come out with new episodes where Rory has Logan’s baby but marries Jess. Sounds familiar...kinda like when Lorelai had Chris’ baby (Rory) but marries Luke... just saying 🤷🏾♀️
The reason why Jess was the better character was because he had a personality outside of his relationship with Rory. The fact that we spent a lot of time seeing Jess and Luke bond meant that we saw him as more than just a boyfriend.
I see Jess as a very good friend for Rory, who gives her the right words she needs to hear in desperate situations. But I have to say, I love Logan and Rory as a couple the most. I loved the rocket he gave to her. It was so sweet.
I agree, logan and rory stayed waaaay longer together, they are soulmates. Sometimes I think he is the only one she ever loved. Yet, jess is only a friend for rory
Me too eventhough Jess encouraged Rory and understood her well I couldn't really see that strong love and affection they had for each other as much as Rory and Logan and I loved the way Logan looks/admirers Rory when she's talking to him. I so ship. They could have even gotten married and eventhough Rory cheated on Logan to Jess she realised she'd rather be with LOGAN.
okay i was always on team jess, i loved their relationship, but when logan came to the show, i fell in love with him, and yes she did cheat on her fiancee in the revival, but you can see that he didn’t love his fiancee, and he clearly was unhappy if he wanted to cheat on his fiancee & he clearly loved rory much much more than odette. i’m just gonna say that i can never choose between logan & jess, so i think i’m in team jegan.
Silja I know you posted this months ago but I HAD to reply now and I COMPLETELY AGREE! I couldn’t have said that any better and that’s exactly how I feel!❤️
@@casper.the.ghostt NONONO. thats wrong. It's not just about the money, its about the treatment. Jess was rude to Rory's family, missed her prom, never called her, was unreliable, couldn't express his feelings, and was constantly lying. Yes, Logan was rich but he treated Rory extremely well, and always pushed her to be better.
@@norabuchaid2309 wasn't there that one episode in season 2 when either Jess called Rory or maybe it was Rory who called Jess?eh idk but other than that well since I've so far reached season 2 I might not have much else to say soo...
In romantic gestures, Jess did more than mentioned... remember him destroying the snowman or inviting her out of nowhere to a Distillers-concert? He did it in his own way, while Logan always let the money play...
why was the fact that Jess forced himself on Rory at the party, made her cry and question what she did wrong and then left without saying a word before her graduation not mentioned?? don't care that he came from a broken home, you don't treat people like that! Logan all the way
I agree slightly. I think it was totally out of character and the writers just needed Jess to be the bad one once again. Dean gets out of it every damn time.
@@woolypuffin392 Jess was always the bad guy even before then. Who is rude to the person that provides you with a home? Who is rude to the mother of the girl you like? And why is he so stuck up and have so much pride? He could have easily just told Rory and Emily that a goose or swan had attacked him. Hes so stubborn and doesn't care about anything. All he had to do was attend school and pass to take Rory to prom. Thats all he had to down. But nOOOOoOOOO he just cant even do that. Its not even that he isn't capable of doing things or smart enough. He is just LAZY.
I'm totally TeamJess! I wasn't sure if Logan or Jess.... But He was the only one you loved her and set her free.... But all of her boyfriends tried to control her somehow
And what about a woman cheating on her boyfriend for over a year? We don't know the nature of Logan and Odette's relationship, but we've seen how bad Rory was with Paul.
Flavia Barcellos oh yeah Rory was absolutely horrible to Paul. It’s inexcusable. They even forgot he existed, which is awful. We don’t know much about Paul but he deserved better. Just because Rory is the “gem of Stars Hollow, beloved by all” doesn’t mean everything she does is good or right.
Flavia Barcellos- and no matter what the nature of the relationship was, it's never excusable to cheat behind a fiance's back. And just because the mistress is cheating too, doesn't make a wrong for a right either. They're both to blame and kind of bring the bad out of each other. If Logan so badly doesn't want to marry Odette, then he shouldn't be leading her on and shouldn't marry her end of story. She's obviously still visiting and he's obviously still hiding Rory so she doesn't even know it's going on and even if she did, I at least would still find it wrong and not fair to anyone. Wasn't right when it happened with Dean and Rory behind his wife's back, isn't right here either. They're both in the wrong here and I'm personally so disappointed in Rory (and the writers for making her end up this way) for still convincing herself it's okay to partake in cheating just so she can have the guy in her life when it's obviously wrong.
lizzie did I say that cheating is excusable? What I meant with "nature of their relationship" was that we don't know if Logan and Odette are in arranged marriage, when both of them are allowed to see other people. Odette is a headcanon, you can choose to believe whatever you want about her but there is no right answer.
I feel like they both should’ve gotten the point for attractiveness because everyone has different tastes and they might think Logan is hotter then jess or jess hotter then Logan
LOGAN is the best, i love how their story started and Logan was funny and nice with her, she changed him. Rory was a partner to Logan, she was friends and confident she was not like that to the other guys. They have a better connection, it's not about him being the best guy, he might not be, But their chemistry is the best. The revival is a shit that doesn't count nor mean anything to anyone who attentively watched the 7 seasons of the real show.
because he was upset and hurt and she went up to him . He knew it was wrong so he went to fix it but as always dean had to fix it with his annoying self watch the ep. again and you will understand .
Jess is and always will be my favorite out of all 3 boyfriends. Sure he wasn't perfect but he tried and went out of his way and comfort zone for Rory many times. Logan got Rory in prison, made her quit yale (or at least influenced her decision) and cheated on her and then with her?! Like seriously they're were toxic!!! Jess was WAY better. no one can change my find. TEAM JESS ALWAYS AND FOREVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
actually i started re-watching it and Rory was the one who said they should go on the boat and she got him in prison and she quit Yale because her confidence was boosted down by his father not him so how did he make her quit Yale as he respected what she wanted to do and he told her that he isn't the type to have girlfriends so he thought they broke up that's why he cheated and didn't Jess force himself onto Rory TEAM LOGAN ALWAYS AND FOREVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I disagree as Jess and Rory had more in common as they talked about books and have stuff in common and they talk about pop culture references etc and I do agree that Logan and Rory have stuff in common but I think that Rory and Jess have more in common
@@jiyabedi1731 the only thing they had in common was their love for books. Logan had more in common with her, starting from their interests to their background. Thus, making them way more compatible.
@@jiyabedi1731 Omg yes yes totally! You are totally entitled to your opinion and I respect it so much. I was just simply responding with my own personal opinion! :))
I'm team Logan on this one. It's very obvious as the show wears on just how compatible the Logan and Rory are. They are so good at talking to one another and spending time together. Their personalities fit together so well. I love Jess, but I dont think he belongs with Rory. I think Rory taught whom it is he DIDN'T want to be. Their relationship ends up being one th ats more about judgement than connection. Whereas with Logan it was the opposite.
@@karlass5209 But logan and rory wanted different things in life and Rory was turning into a rich over-priveleged girl. She was no longer grounded. As an adult Jess beats Logan by a gazillion.
i hate how they are saying that logan doesnt like books or things like that he is like better read than even rory and he shows huge interest in her writing
So? He doesn't read that much and never talked the way jes s and Rory did about books plus jess and Rory loved the same music and jokes and had similar thoughts on lige.
Okay idk how this will come off in text but I promise you I'm not trying to be rude or fight you over a fictional tv show lol. I do think you need to go rewatch the show though because although Rory and Jess shared a love of books they were no where near as intellectually compatible as Rory and Logan. Logan may not have been into reading as much as Rory but he was every bit as smart as her and they were able to have several intellectual conversations about many topics. History, art, literature ect. Jess loved books but he wasn't book smart.
um..they sort of forgot where Rory and Logan discussed the fate of a certain manuscript at the coffee cart and whose fault it was and then that scene where Rory Jess and Logan are in the pub and Logan starts spewing out multiple offer names by length of books..so I'd say Logan was very, very well read
Jess reasons: Jess loved Rory all this time. In the almost 17 YEARS that the show was running, he never lost interest. He kept the idea that Rory could notice him again. He knew when she was off her path and though he didn't know how to step in correctly, he always stepped in when he felt he needed to. Jess became better and one of the reasons was because Rory inspired him. They parallel multiple times, Jess sometimes sooner before Rory. He has gotten her to greatness before and I bet he can do it again. Being the person that he is, Jess would be a great partner for Rory. Logan reasons: Logan and Rory both have personalities so close you could call them clones. Both in the end are entitled, risky (in a way) and can't let go of each other. They both have vengeful minds when hurt, and the hate that they share makes them love each other. Both share many similarities and make each other proud. They work out all the time, no matter what and can always rise to the top when they fall to the bottom. They are so alike that it's hard to pair them with anyone else. Made in heaven or hell, this match is meant to be. Jess is too good reasons: Jess was never meant to be with Rory. He started out too bad for her, and was the one who needed space, making Rory break it off. However when he wrote his book, there was some potential. After that episode, Jess could have never been with Rory. He was making amends at the time, paying off Luke and gaining new friends at his company/shop. I think that there may have been an off-camera scene where he payed the town for all the bad deeds. He was doing great with a short-novel making him some money and making more money at a job where he fit in and liked the work. Rory however, was going on a bad path. She became the other woman, dated her ex-boyfriend who got divorced for her, only to dump him for a rich entitled jerk going to Yale with her. She then went into a relationship that she didn't like, dropped out of Yale, and only went back after JESS came and convinced her. Jess could never be with Rory as he is too good for her, the opposite of what was in the earlier seasons. Use this in any argument.
If jess weren't there to beat the sensed out of rory after they had dinner with logan, i dont think rory would get any better in the later series. Jess is way too good for Rory.
Logan earned Lorelai's respect by the end of the show, but in the revival it was clear that Jess had earned Lorelai's respect and that Logan had lost it.
My wife and I recently rewatched the series and we think Jess. We also thought regarding that in the revival that when Logan was having his affair that if Rory all of a sudden called Logan and said something like, "I want to be with you... let's get married." He would have dropped his fiance fast and flown back to the states to be with Rory in a minute. I think he wanted to be with someone but loved Rory and since she wasn't wanting to settle down he was taking whatever he could get from Rory. That said in the revival I thought her relationship with Logan was a step back as it was mostly a friends with benefits relationship... but in the original series the show established she couldn't do this. So what changed?
Team Logan forever Me before Logan when Jess came: "Rory, please, stay with Dean! I wanna see you two together! And i'm so sad because in Year In The Life is only one Rory and Dean scene." Me when Logan came: "RORY!!!! FORGET ALL YOUR EX-BOYFRIENDS, THAT GUY IS PREFECT FOR YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!! PLEASE END UP TOGETHER WITH HIM!!!!!!!!!!!"
Team Logan. Yes he's a terrible person, but almost everyone on this show is terrible. Logan's terrible matches Rory's terrible. They deserve each other in the best and worst possible way.
I don't think it's fair to compare a teen-ager's behavior with those of an adult. Jess is the only one who has matured and grown up also thanks to his mistakes, he was a teenager abandoned to himself but worked to create a future. Logan is a privileged rich man whose only purpose in life is to spend dad's money
“You never really needed rescuing Ace. You know that.” I will always be Team Logan. I love Jess don’t get me wrong but I just feel like Logan has always been the right guy for Rory. It all depends on him standing up to his family and leaving that arrange marriage to be with Rory and raise their baby together. I would love to see Logan as a father. I think he would be so excited when she told him.
I agree with everyone saying Jess is actually too good for Rory now... in my head, after “A Year in the Life” he helps her write her book and they grow much closer because of it. He has another “come to Jesus” talk with her like after she dropped out of Yale, and he helps her realized how effed up her decisions have been. Cheating on her boyfriend with a man who is not only engaged, but also has been nothing but a bad influence on her from day one? Jess would set her straight and get her back on track. They belong together.
Okay don’t mention that Logan and Rory had newspaper stuff in common. And they would read the newspaper in the morning together like they did in 6x15 sooooo Rory and Logan newspaper/reporting in common which was literally Rory’s major at Yale so smh
LMAO Logan is not her soulmate AT ALL they’re only perfect for each other because they’re both cheating, selfish brats. Jess was such an amazing guy that she didn’t deserve but he loved her from the beginning to end but I can’t say that for Logan.
When it comes to the interaction between Jess and Lorelai, it pains me to realize the fact that Lorelai probably doesn't know that the two turning points for Rory's character are because of Jess: Rory's return to Yale and the writing a her book.
logan is the better boyfriend !!! he always loved rory and rory love him not jess. i mean in the end rory has a baby frome logan and a relationship with logen !! I'm 100% team logan
I am team Wookie. JK. I didn't think Jess had it in him up to the sequel. He often was emotionally manipulative with her. He often abandoned her in the important, make or break moments. He always placed her at odds with family and friends. He did grow up to be a good egg though. But I don't think he grew into the guy for Rory. Logan on the other hand, even with his dark moments, never truly ran away from her, always came back to work through things. He stood by her long distance. He was always respectful and supportive of her family situation. In the sequel, he had a fiance, but I got the distinct feeling he would leave her if Rory showed she was all in. I've always been team Logan.
Here's the problem...Amy Sherman-Palladino has admitted that she didn't watch, and does not know what happened in season 7, which messes with the characters a lot. The reason it seemed like Logan lost all his character development is because in ASP's eyes it never happened. ASP also falls into the How I Met Your Mother problem of knowing how the show is going to end from the beginning, but not realizing that all the time in between makes that ending seem stupid. Honestly, Rory wasn't much better in the revival when it came to relationship with Logan, as she was technically cheating on her boyfriend as well. I like both Jess and Logan, and hate that she didn't end up with either one.
Especially revival Rory. Jess is so much better without that hot mess. And if she wanted to be with Logan that much, she should have said yes in s7. Engagement doesn't mean marriage.
Also he doesn't deserve better, he wants to be with her, he loves her, he may be better than he was before, if anything she deserves better than Jess, and Logan, I HATE LOGAN, and just because she is having a baby, and she is unwed doesn't mean that Jess deserves better than her.
Moon Lily I love Jory... but... have y oh seen the revival? 1. Rory, Lorelai, Luke and who knows who else, all forget Paul's name! They don't bother to learn literally four letters! 2. Rory keeps on forgetting to break up with Paul because he's just a distraction... an extremely forgettable distraction. 3. Throughout the year in which it is set, not only is Rory cheating on Paul (who's a really good guy btw) but Logan is also cheating on Odette, you know, the FRENCH DUCHESS??? Amy Sherman-Palladino says she wanted the last four words to be the last ones on the actual show, but because she wasn't working on s7, she didn't get to. And she made Rory a bitch for one of two reasons ; 1. Because the s7 writers continued the storyline to head it that way. 2. Because Amy loved Jess and thought he was way to good for her.
Moon Lily actually, engagement doesn't always do. If say, you were in a serious relationship and you were preposed to, and you said yes, you and that person were engaged for 3 years, then after a huge fight, you realise that you actually don't want to spend the rest of your life with them. You call of the engagenent. There, that doesn't mean that you just got a divorce. Does it??
bruh when Rory was with Dean, she liked Jess. When Rory was with Jess, she had an eye for Dean. Then she proceeded to sleep with a married man. Not to mention that when she was with Logan, she kissed Jess. Then in the revival, she cheated on Paul with Logan!
The character of Rory confused me. She was well behaved in the earlier seasons. But in the later seasons, and the revival, she didn't know what she wanted. She sleeps with Logan, even though he's engaged to someone else. And she sleeps with a guy dressed in a Wookiee costume. Not to mention she gets pregnant and doesn't know who the father is!! Rory is all kinds of messed up!!
true. but i think because she was so well behaved, they wanted to make it more realistic, because face it. NO teenagers are like rory in the first seasons. she was too well behaved.
I was always team Jess, but when there was finally hope of Lor and Luke to be a thing, would it have been weird if Jess and Rory dated? Anyone else had this idea?
Ya I do as well because even thought jess is lukes nefuw and lor and luke got married woulden't that mean if jess and rory got together would kinda be gross because his uncle is maried to rorys mom so ya I always kinda think about that
I always saw the Jess vs Logan thing as a "new age" representation of Luke vs Christopher. Rory could be very happy with either of them, but... she and Jess built a beautiful friendship and they do love each other, they are just lacking that spark. She and Logan definitely have the spark. There is a difference between loving someone and being in love with someone.
Jess Nykole yes! this!!! i think that jess and rory will always love each other, but the man that is in her heart romantically and the man she clearly can’t seem to fully cut off is logan. logan is the love of her life and that’s that! i think that jess and rory and a perfect friendship though
@@sumayamire4809 I think your right however Jess and Rory didn’t really have a chance for there spark to grow. They were teens and Jess wanted to be something better then were he came from. He basically did what Loreli did leave to get his life in order. He knew Rory was going to college and he didn’t want to stay behind. Look what happened to Dean after she went to school. On the other hand if he stayed Dean and Rory would not have happened. Jess and Rory just needed time together they definitely had sparks they just didn’t have time to develop whether through disapproval from her family or his thoughts about himself.
