Shane Hughes She’s just older now...of course her voice changed and yes...smoking likely had some effect on it. But she was 33 here and will be 70 next year.
I think that Jessica Lange is probably a very nervous, shy person. Most of her characters are neurotic/emotional. In a way, this makes her seem very genuine and kind-of-sort-of egoless (at least compared to most stars)
F Mar Sounds like you're the brainless 'quick to judge' moron. You managed to spew out that pathetic judgmental response over a couple of short harmless juvenile posts? Lighten up. As they say, it's real easy to toss around insults when you're hiding behind a computer screen.
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She gave an understated and supreme performance. People think the Oscars should only be for over the top performances, but it takes just as much effort to give a subtle performance.
Agree- she was the most human element in "Tootsie," and a wonderful buffer to some of the wild comedy going on around her (she also got some laughs, but in the more subtle manner you mention).
Teri Garr is obviously nervous and pissed, because she felt (rightly) that Lange should not have been in the Supporting Actress category for TOOTSIE. The character of Julie Nichols is the female lead of that film.
@Anna O' Sullivan Shouldn't the Academy decide the category ? There have been some odd circumstances like this happen, and unfair. I thought Terri deserved it as supporting, as she was brilliant in the role.
I semi-agree, but the boundaries between leading and supporting parts are not exactly clear. It's more about presence and less about screen time. Lange is somewhat of a lead in the film, but then again, she feels kind of supporting. Anthony Hopkins in the Silence of the Lambs is technically in a supporting role, but it's pretty clear he's lead and is meant to be presented as a lead character due to his impact. People accuse studios of category fraud all the time, but I don't think they're right mostly. Patricia Neal was indeed supporting in Hud and shouldn't have found herself in the leading category (let alone win it), but Olivia Colman was lead in The Favourite and so was Nicole Kidman in the Hours (in the sense that the stories are built with their characters as the centre of them), and yet people cry foul about their categorisation very often. In the case of Lange in Tootsie, I don't think it's category fraud.
To this day, anyone who is nominated for both leading & supporting has never won both. Chances are, that may never happen. Voters will either pick one or the other, or if they cannot, the two nominations will cancel each other out & someone else will be chosen for each.
@@ericandy88 Ironic fact: Sigourney was one of those who lost both when she was nominated for Working Girl and for Gorillas in the Mist. Cate Blanchett was another one.
In my opinion they were giving her this award because she lost in the leading category (for Frances in which she was flawless and 100% oscar worthy) to meryl streep in sophie's choice.
Jessica definitely deserved this award. I bet most of you haven't even seen Tootsie; it's a masterpiece. She also should have won for Frances! She was absolutely amazing in it!!
Go watch 'Sophie's Choice' starring Meryl Streep (she won over Lange in 'Frances') and report back. She was amazing in Frances, but wasn't as good as Streep.
I love Jessica Lange. She is so effortless charming and a brilliant actress. She has this ability to pull all the attention towards her, without her realising it. That's the thing I love about her. Always a fan of her elegance, poise and great acting.
In her Biography on A&E it's mentioned Warren walked out of a preview of the movie thinking she'd gone too far over the top but oh, she was glorious! Wish she would've tied with Lange, at least. I also love Warren in other things, and have never forgotten her brief, incredibly moving scene in "Twin Falls, Idaho" as the boys guilt-ridden mother, a blueprint example to support the "There are no small parts" adage- hard to believe this tragic figure is the same performer who played the dizzy, loveable (even when she's a screaming harpy) Norma. What an actress!
@Jarred Knox Garr played a role ahead of it's time, what other character in the 80's acted like that? so insecure and neurotic. When she accuses Dustin of there " being another girl " cause of the chocolates thing, she plays it so well and defined a female character that would be used in future comedies to come. in her own way, she won in this movie.
I would counter that either Lesley Ann Warren or Kim Stanley would have been a far better and more deserving choice. Like others I think Lange won as a "Frances" consolation prize .. I watched it recently and was a bit shocked by her performance actually
@@davesantorinirey157 When you win at least one of all the most important awards in show business. Movie, tv, stage, music. (Even if that Grammy is for audiobook, it's still a Grammy lol)
She was also nominated this year in the Best Actress category for Frances. She was amazing in "Tootsie" but it's a shame she couldn't be in the Best Actress category for both films. She really was a lead in "Tootsie" and Teri Garr made the most of her own time on screen. I would've liked to have seen Teri Garr win as she actually was playing a supporting role, and was hilarious in it.
My favorite living actress. So happy she just won the TONY for Best Actress in a Play but at that time I was rooting for TERI GARR as I was an acquaintance of her late mother Phyllis and used to call her in her North Hollywood home when I was living in Connecticut in the early 80s. So sad that TERI has been suffering with MS for so many years. Miss her in the movies.
To those who feel other actors in this category should have won here is my take. The reason she won for Tootsie is because she was also up for Best Actress in Frances and she was incredible in Frances, beyond brilliant really. However, Meryl Streep was also nominated for Best Actress for Sophie's Choice and the scene where she has to choose is so bone chilling that Streep had to win, but Lange too deserved to win. So there you have it. Aside from all this, Oscars are given out arbitrarily after a vote has been counted. The winners just favorites of the majority. I don't think one can be judged as the best in any sort of objective way for their art. From the perspective of history though, I would say that her performance in Frances was most definitely a factor in the way people voted for Best Supporting Actress.
Jessica Lange originally turned down the role in "Tootsie", but took it because she needed a less demanding role than the one she played in "Frances" (apparently she felt emotionally drained after filming completed. If you've seen the film, you'd probably understand why. It's very confronting and hard to watch at times).
I reckon Lange is slightly better, but meryl has done wayyyy more movies and hence achieved a lot more recognition and success. I reckon if Jessica Lange did more movies, she'd have perhaps 4 or 5 oscars by now.
Ja Zee Jessica is brilliant, but too say that she'll would have 4-5 Oscars by now, is too much exaggeration.. And IMO, Meryl's acting talent is ahead of Jessica's acting talent.
Um no.Meryl is much more multifaceted. Meryl doesn't just play a role. She BECOMES the character. And that, in my opinion, is what makes her better. There is literally no character she can't play. Does that character have an accent? Meryl will sound like a native speaker.
To be honest, dirty mop water is more convincing as an actor than Streep. She's nothing special, if she were, the media wouldn't have to consistently remind us that she apparently is, but she's just an okay face who networked her way into acting, by associating with people like Weinstein.
Actually, Garr was annoyed by the studio's choice of a Best Supporting Actress submission for Lange, since she felt Lange should have been submitted in the Best Actress Category, which would have given her a better chance of winning the Oscar instead.
As much as I love her, I feel like she got this award because they knew best actress would go to meryl; the academy gave her this to make up I suppose.
This was perhaps the non-happiest winner to claim she was happy. By winning the Supporting in Tootsie, Ms. Lange knew she wasn't going to win in Frances.
What a beauty / talent and totally deserved of that award! And how about Tootsie itself? Just ordered my first copy of it on DVD, though I saw it in the theater back in '82 when it came out, and it's been one of my fave films ever since and is certainly one of the best comedies (as well as films) ever made. Hats off to you, Sydney Pollack, Jessica Lange, and Dustin!
They say that nowadays to attempt to confer the notion that the awarding of the Oscar "isn't about winners & losers...". Whether they are really successful in that is highly debatable of course.
@@ashleymillican3809 The original commenter said the "Oscar goes to" verbiage had something to do with "all the ladies perking up". All the nominees still "perk up" and we all still refer to someone "winning" the award. It just _sounds_ better to try to make it _appear_ that it isn't about winners and losers. Even though it is.
oh my gosh, you're so right. i saw Tootsie and i remember thinking that Lange was good and convincing but not Oscar worthy for that role, but when i saw Victor/Victoria i was certain that Warren had won an Oscar for that role. what a gip.
Sigourney Weaver presenting the Best Supporting Actress Oscar to Jessica Lange is made so ironic by the fact that: 1) Sigourney would become the very next actress to be nominated in both categories, and 2) Was the very first actress ever nominated in both categories to go home empty-handed.
davy209 Yes but Weaver was the first, Thompson and Blanchette would happen later. Also ironic is that Weaver lost Supporting to Geena Davis, the third hot female in Tootsie. Davis' win was a fluke though. I haven't seen Gorilla Mists, but Weaver was the best part of Working Girl, playing Catherine Parker with all the catty elegance of Joan Crawford and Katharine Hepburn in one body. She's what made it rise above the typical 80s Pretty-in-Pink-style camp, and she deservedly won a Golden Globe for the part, and should have won the Oscar for it. Even more ironic is that Lange would eventually work with Mitchum in the Cape Fear remake, although not sharing any scenes with him, De Niro played the character he originated who brutalizes her and attempts to rape her on the house boat. Eerie. Wonder if Sigourney was at the opening of THAT one lol....
Even as an older gentleman Mitchum could still make younger women swoon. Theresa Russell gushed over getting to work with Mitchum in The Last Tycoon -- in a crush way -- despite the decades age difference between the two.
Wow, EVERYONE looks so YOUNG (cept Robert Mitchum). Tough, tough category, saw all four performances (cept Lesley Ann Warren) and I gotta tell ya any one should've won. More I see reruns of Tootsie, more I realize what a great performance Teri Garr gave in that movie; she's underrated. Looking back, this was Glenn Close's best chance to win as she would be beaten year after year. Can't help feeling Lange's Supporting Oscar was a token consolation for losing Best Actress to Streep.
She won this because that night she was also nominated in the Lead Actress category for "Frances" which many people felt was the best female performance of that year.. Instead Meryl Streep won in the lead actress category... They gave supporting actress to Lange basically as a consolation prize for doing such fine work in "Frances".. Nobody can play a crazy woman like Jessica Lange, lol!
