Jessica Vill DEBUNKS Marilyn Monroe's "Story" | The Found Records Podcast 

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The passion this woman has for not only history but for Marilyn Monroe is unlike anything I have ever seen.

learning that she preferred the identity she forged for herself in adulthood as opposed to her birth name that she associated with a traumatic youth really connects. I wish this was a more common accepted practice in mainstream culture. I'm Native American and a lot of our cultures have this element as a default, where you get a different name in adulthood to allow you to define yourself in this new identity and phase of life once you have full autonomy. we wouldn't even use the same name for trading with the outside world as we would inside our tribes in some cases, because names are powerful.

Jessica, I've been a fan of Marilyn for nearly 35 years. Ever since I learned she and I share a birthday. I've read the books, watched the docs, (AND the fiction). I'm really amazed at how much I'm learning! It's wonderful to see someone who has gone beyond "doing the homework". Your passion really shines through. You are incredibly well spoken and this presentation is wonderfully thought out. I honestly can't wait to see more.

In the instance from Marilyn in "My Story" about her childhood - the man in the story was NOT a pastor. She mentions that he attended a revival meeting after the incident and acted self-righteous and as if he was not in need of repentance like the other revival-goers. It's important to read carefully especially when quoting Marilyn because otherwise more embellishments and errors are added to the rumor mill.

I love the passion, humanity and accuracy for Marilyn Monroe. Would love to see possibly Judy Garland and Shelley Duvall, maybe even Shirley temple

Debunking Marilyn would take hooouurs! But I’m glad you did this. The lies about Marilyn just keep getting more bizarre

Wow that movie Blonde was such an injustice wish they could be sued. 😢

I have to disagree, not only did Marilyn not hate Marilyn, but she also didn't hate Norma Jeane either. Marilyn spoke freely about being late and keeping people waiting and spending an extra long time in her bath for the sake of Norma Jeane who didn't have such luxuries.

I've never heard of anyone placing the blame on Johnny Hyde for Marilyn's death over a decade later!

The secret lover has to be Fred Karger. MM loved the hell out of that dude! They met during Ladies of the Chorus in 1948 when she was 21, he was 32. He would play the piano for her. She later said that when he put on his glasses "I was overwhelmed." Guys looking like nerds in glasses really threw her for a loop. She was completely mad for him.

Zanuck needed his eyes examined if he thought she was ugly. Marilyn was beautiful inside and out. ❤

I am so ready for this new era of your channel!!! I have been a follower of yours for years since when you were doing impersonations of Ariana Grande and want to say you have always deep dived so heavily into history so this has really been a long time coming!!! I’m excited!!!

I can’t remember how I found you, but I’m really glad I did! It’s great to have one trustworthy source talk about Marilyn instead of reading many books and lots of researches lol. You didn’t talk about Frank Sinatra/DiMaggio/Mafia/voice recorder and the FBI and the phone calls to Bobby before her death all these crazy stuff which I personally fell for when I first read about Marilyn. Interestingly it was only after I watched Blonde that I became interested in who Marilyn was lol. You did a great job addressing the movie. Continue with the great work, I absolutely love it! The world needs more people like you. I hope you achieve every dream you got. You’re really special and deserve nothing but happiness.

Clicked so fast! Excited to see more long-form content 🤍🤍

I'm so excited about this. Thank you for putting so much effort into the facts. As a history buff I appreciate it so much ❤

Love this! Such a great video ❤

Good job Vill ❤ thank you for closed captioned 👍

so thankful for what you're doing, can't wait to see your documentary series one day

I love how intelligently you explain things in your videos ugh!! There are soo many misunderstood "facts" floating around the internet regarding Marilyn Monroe out of context, it's so refreshing to see a true fan who's done their homework haha ❤

Great podcast, ive studied Marilyn now since 1980, ive spoken to 2 friends from her inner circle. About her death, it was a accidental overdose, but NOT done by herself. There are 3 neighbors witnesses who saw Robert Kennedy at her house on Augustus 4th , also according to her maid Eunice Murray, who said on tape that Robert and Marilyn had a big argument, also according to Norman Jeffries who was Eunice brother in law, had said that Marilyn became hysterical angry, and that Eunice had to calm her down by a enema, that was around 7pm , she had a view phone calls , all them said that Marilyn was in a good mood. After 9pm ( last call from Joe jr ) something’s went wrong, they called the Santa Monica hospital to pick her up ( also 2 witnesses saw a ambulance at Marilyn’s house) according to Walter Scheaffer ( Head of SM Hospital) he said on film that they picked her up and she passed away in the hospital, they brought her back to her house , to look like a suicide, bc Fox could get the insurance. That’s a pure fact,

Thank you for all your hard work! I loved seeing you grow and your channel also!!

So interesting! And I'm sure you could find topics to do a part 2 on Marilyn! I'd watch it for sure!

Loved this! Amazing to hear her authentic story. I’ve always been a fan of Marilyn. And as both a history and horror fan, I will be tuning into both podcasts😍

I loved this episode so much. Your voice is incredibly easy to listen to, and it's obvious that you know a ton, if not everything, about her. ❤️ Wonderful work. 🙏

This was so interesting and enjoyable! I've always felt that Marilyn is, without question, one of the the most misunderstood figures in history. I'm looking to whatever else you have planned for your podcast. ❤

This is so amazing Jessica! The cinematography, and your passion about Marilyn is top notch!. I am also a huge fan of hers ❤❤❤ please keep on posting! love from Indonesia

Really really enjoyed this ❤

This video needs 1 million views, you're brilliant

By "transcripts of Marilyn's therapy sessions" do you mean the "transcripts" written by Miner from memory after he spoke to Greenberg?

FIRST COMMENT, ALSO UR BOOK JUST GOT DELIVERED AND IM GONNA READ IT AFTER THIS PODCAST ❤❤

This was an amazing video you really care about the facts which is very important to me. So thank you for all your research. Also Hopefully I’ll be getting your book I’m so excited!!!

Where did you get the psychiatrist notes and the MM diary!! ?? I've been reading MM books since 1983 (I'm a big MM collector), and I've always felt sad that I'd never have access to doctor notes -- since a psychiatrist's notes would never be revealed for confidentiality purposes. I'd love to read all of that if they are actually out somewhere!

Glad you’re back with another video love your makeup videos they have been so helpful during my transition and also because I plan on living a vintage lifestyle mostly 1950s

im praying your biopic gets picked up asap pls universe im begging 😂❤

Great video!! ❤️

I loved it❤ keep it coming 👏🏼

That was an amazing podcast, thank you ❤

I really like this podcast concept and your passion for Marilyn Monroe, personnaly I collect biography books about her so this is on point ❤

Hey Jessica! I would love a video dedicated to debunking everything in Blonde. The inaccuracies are insane and someone needs to set the record straight! ❤

Beautiful being. Really. I saw many rolls on Instagram about you ,you have passion for Marilyn and the way you show it? It's fascinating.

so insightful! great vid, you can just tell how much you know and understand her

so cool!! love your videos!🩷🩷

I want to say one thing to the endometriosis part. It doesn't HAVE to make you infertile and it's not what it is. It's a common side effect depending on where and how bad the endometriosis is. I have endometriosis so if you do too. Don't be scared that you automatically infertile, that's not true.

We both love Marilyn and that's how you found me ❤ loved this episode please keep it up!

I love this historical podcast!

This is awesome! I’ve been awaiting for this kind of content!!!! Is there a place where we can ask q’s?

This was a fantastic podcast, Jess. Remember to also look into topics that are not personally interesting to you as it's a way of testing your research methodology. For instance a brief search on the writer Thea von Harbou (screenplay writer for Fritz Lang's Metropolis) will take you to Lene Riefenstahl in one direction and Ayi Tendulkar in the other.

Great job Jessica!!

oooo goodluck with your future endeavours in getting your script made, i would so love to watch something genuine like that

Hello, I’ve been a very long time fan (talking Jessica rabbit and Betty boop makeup transformations) and I wanted to say how grateful I am for being able to see you grow as a content creator and historian/artist. I wanted to ask/suggest why not adapting your script to a book? That way your fans (like myself) can buy and support part of the story, and maybe with that funding your production company can have enough to make a pilot episode. This pilot could be picked up by a bigger producing company and could work hand in hand with your production company. Since you would have the rights to the book no one else could take your information away + you can always leave out certain things to make the book and docu-series different. Just a suggestion because I’m extremely curious on your work and would love to see Marilyn depicted with honesty and truth 💗

Definitely was very interesting!

23:09 - 23:35 i believe the mystery boyfriend could be Fred Karger (his full name i believe is Frederick Maxwell Karger) He worked as a Vocal Coach for Columbia pictures and Coached Marilyn. I have seen pictures of the two of them sitting at a piano and I've also seen pictures of the two of them at a party hosted by San Spiegel dated 1948. I've read alot about how close she was with this 'Karger Family' I pretty sure its him tbh. it all kinda lines up. (edit is from spelling errors)

you have to let us know when your biopic comes out on the big screen, i'm already dying to see it!!

Love this girl. Congratulations on the book looks great i need one.

Thankyou Jessica! The recent movie about Marilyn could not have been more wrong! It was an insult to Marilyn. As someone who has been around a long time, I feel like some people are definetly trying to create their own narrative of not only Marilyn's life, but other historical figures who can no longer defend themself, because they have passed away. 😔❤

Thank you for bringing light to the truth of Marilyn Monroe I’m so sad that even in her passing they are objectifying and degrading her memory

Your makeup is so on point! Those eyes are just like Marilyn! 😊

i’m so glad i watched this video ❤

Love this I’m so well spoken

Thanks for this vid. I love Marilyn.

as a self proclaimed marilyn buff, i did actually know all of this already, but the internet is a crazy place for history, so much misinformation. but this podcast that you've done is great, so informative for all types of Marilyn fans new and old, please keep that biopic close, and make the h*ll out of it when you feel it. ill be waiting 😊😍

Oh wow THANK YOU JESSICA ❤❤❤

HThank you for keeping her Legacy alive❤❤❤❤ It was so wonderful to finally hear someone finally actually give her a voice, and speak of her strength and power. It's truly inspiring to not hear what a victim she was.

Thank you ☺

This video was done very well thank you for your hard work! Just a few footnotes: endometriosis is not a deal breaker for kids. I know many women who have gotten pregnant with endo, but there are plenty of other factors which may have made her infertility worse (drug addiction, alcohol use, childhood SA) all of these can cause difficulties concieving and keeping a child. ❤

Great video ❤😊🙏

This is so interesting! Thanks for providing a balanced view of her character and story - I detest the direction Hollywood has taken with her story, almost turning her life story into “torture porn” , downplaying her personality and achievements when she deserves so much better! Looking forward to more of this series :)

Thanks for this. I feel like I've learned so much. The idea of anyone pursuing fame and stardom to escape such a rough upbringing is fascinating in itself. To take someone like Marilyn who went through that and arbitrarily flip the narrative, claiming that she saw her stardom as the problem rather than the solution, feels like careless malfeasance.

Excellent podcast. Love the setting you shot it or edited in. Also, the nude photo's she took ended up in Playboy Magazine Mexico so that only added to that rumor that she was Mexican.

Thank you for sharing the truth about her I’ve read a lot of books about her as a kid I love her

Im not suprised at all that Hollywood would water down a womans life at all

I’m shocked about the president conspiracy, I watched a documentary a long time ago and her best friend shared about how it was an affair. And it stated this sparked the “Blonde vs. Brunette” trope. This documentary even led me to believe that the kennedys killed Marilyn, because of what her best friend claimed. To be honest I don’t know the credibilities of the documentary, but I learned Marilyn wrote poetry in the comments of that documentary. She’s incredibly intelligent and artistic.

I would love an in depth review of Hedy Lemarr. Iv always found her very intriguing 💖

This was excellent Jessica more awesome content from an awesome creator.

Could you recommend some books about Marilyn that are historically good?

I'm ready to learn 🎉

Nice Enjoyed 😊

Love this podcast episode, finally I now know the real Marilyn Monroe ❤❤😊

So glad you’re coming back! I’ve missed your videos! A really big fan of this channel and your Somber Studios channel as well. Love your content! ❤️❤️ And, thank you for telling the truth about Marilyn. I feel like more people should know her better. The real person, not just the sex symbol people see. I haven’t watched the video yet, but I’m really excited to. I’m a really big fan of Marilyn and she is my biggest inspiration in life and style/fashion. And, she deserves respect. May Marilyn rest in peace. She was an Angel sent from heaven and she deserved so much better than what people gave her/treated her. 🤍🤍🤍

She was such a beautiful icon, you should do a video on all the cool stuff she accomplished 😅

The Podcast was so great and so informative, can't wait to see what other topics you discuss! Off-topic but girl what brand/shade is that lipstick your'e wearing in the video? I've been searching for that exact color for agesssss, its so beautiful

I love your content and I appreciate this video on Marilyn so much. My heart always weeps for her when I am reminded of her. I do find it interesting though that youre set on her overdosing and not Michael Jackson? Bailey Sarian usually does a lot of research on her videos and she said his story was very similar to Marilyns when it comes to overdosing and taking more than he should have yet you say he was mudered and Marilyn wasnt? Also I wish you did go into more detail on her relationship with the Kennedys.. She supposedly had a relationship with JFKS brother not Jfk and what about the FBI files on her? I feel you need to do a part 2!!

I don't think Monroe was still a saint, she had her own flaws. She willingly went into that relationship with Yves Montand, which is still disrespectful to his actual wife, regardless how "sweet" he was and the promises he makes. If you willingly date a taken man, you're not innocent, but if you willing to look for someone to date while being married, you're worse and Montand is worse just by principle in my eyes and enabling the affair. I do wonder if she was actually a drug addict, she seemed to be largely unwell in general (she had endometriosis and she might also be heavily affected by her own life's stresses). I read she took barbiturate to help her sleep and stimulants to give her energy, considering that stimulants (we don't know which stimulants she took) also have an effect of increasing happy mood and self-confidence, she probably also took those things so she can maintain her "Marilyn Monroe" image because maintaining a happy, talkative, seductive false image for so long is hard itself and will take a toll. I theorise it's more like a practical habit borne out of a need to maintain a career. We don't know how often she took those drugs or the specific reasons, but I'm just guessing. She seems like a very smart and pragmatic woman and I think back during her time, there were harder drugs she could've taken if she's truly after the euphoria that drugs give.

The singer/piano player Marilyn refers to being in love with is definitely a reference to Fred Karger

Is there a book on Marilyn you can recommend?

Very interesting

I know very little about Marilyn Monroe. I had no idea she was a foster child, her name was not originally Marilyn Monroe.

From Princess to Podcast. I love this so much!! ^w^

Look into her relationship with Bobby Kennedy at the end of her life. I've heard her psychiatrist, Dr Greenson, on tape talking about her relationship with him. This was part of a documentary in 1984. At one point he refused to talk further. You don't mention Mrs.Murray her housekeeper who changed her story. I'm not saying she was murdered but you've got some digging to do! It's a complex story and I think you will enjoy widening your view. Good work.

I really enjoyed this! I enjoyed hearing about the things I already knew and of course absolutely loved hearing new and intriguing things about Marilyn. She was such a complex individual I’m constantly seeing and hearing misinformation regarding her and her story but you’ve done your reseach, so thank you! I do have a question regarding 30:46 you said the movie blonde put the abortion narrative in as pro-abortion propaganda? this whole time I was under the impression it was pro-life because I heard there’s a scene of cgi fetus that chatises her for getting an abortion prior… though I haven’t seen it so I really have no clue about the messages it’s trying to send and regardless the book and movie are such horrific bastardizations of marilyn and her character to place that on her to push any narrative is… it’s upsetting to say the least… But I’m glad someone like you is doing a podcast like this to combat the misinformation🖤

Just to give you heads up, she did in fact had an affair with Kennedy. There are photos to prove it and she even spoke to Jackie over the phone in a few occasions, and it was even corroborated by Jackie herself

Jessica, What do you think of Catherine Hick's 1980 performance as MM? I freaking loved her in that!! As a youth, I'd watch that AGAIN and AGAIN. Memorized every word of that movie! Catherine H didn't look like MM but sure could give the MM essence.

The stunt Marilyn participated in at JFK's birthday bash demonstrates her willingness to use her body for attention and popularity. She also appeared nude again in some photoshoot around the 1960s and semi-nude for the pool scene in Something's Got to Give (she was supposedly jealous of Elizabeth Taylor's success as an actress). Once more, this demonstrates a desire for attention. I don't think she was demisexual. Speaking about their pre-stardom nights out together, Shelley Winters revealed that she and Marilyn had their own list of men they had slept with. Additionally, it shows how little she cared about morality or other people when she slept with married men for her own advantage. She wasn't beyond using others to her advantage, as they used her.

Omg I’m so glad someone is talking about blonde.. that film was a crime.

I had to stop watching Blonde halfway through because it got too intense for me and it just .. felt wrong. It felt very much like that classic hollywood thing where everything sexual gets immensely too much attention and everything else is just kind of inbetweens. I knew it was off and I'm sooo happy to be learning the truth from you here. Thank you for your hard work and research, Jessica!

I’m a Marilyn fan from way back. I find it telling that her bravery is so minimised. Her fortitude in the face of McCarthyism and her backing of Miller were inspiring. As was her establishing her own production company in the 50s. She was a pragmatist with courage.

I would love to see something about Michael Jackson story 🖤

I’ve loved, collected books, made a point to always visit her grave when I’m in California and have always been driven mad by all the lies. Kudos for doing what you’re doing! The man she fell in love with who’d sing and play music was Freddy Karger who’d been hired by Colombia to help her with her singing voice. He was a horrible man who belittled her for her lack of general knowledge.

You are soooo caaauuute! Loves this!