I’d say one of the most dangerous ones our there is that you do not have to repent of sin to be saved. Yes Jesus did the work, we are saved by faith through grace, but believing includes leaving the previous life’s ways (repenting). Another false teaching is Calvinism, which though they are right on who Jesus is, they are wrong about a lot of other things, specifically limited atonement (Jesus didn’t die for everyone).
Movement going strong.. Torahism movement/ Hebrew roots. My sister is deep into the teachings and it has really divided our family. My sister tells us we are not going to heaven basically bc we are not following Torah law. She says Christianity is false and the Catholic Church has ruined our Bible and we don’t see the full truth.
When I was in college I was involved with a shepherdship ministry and was thrown into many years of healing and recovery after leaving. It was the subtle false teachings that crept in, as well as the unteachableness of the leaders. I’m 62 now, and my prayer continues to be for increased discernment and wisdom. Thank you so much for this podcast!
@@keith3362yikes. Here in Israel we are messianic. But we don’t believe that one wouldn’t go to heaven if you don’t follow the “tora” on the letter😩 we are saved by grace not by our works but every messianic Jew is probably circumcised for instance
I was a banker for many years. We didn’t learn how to recognize a counterfeit bill. We studied and knew the true bill so that the counterfeits were apparent. Study, read, have a relationship with the Lord Jesus and the false will reveal itself.
I worked in check cashing. We actually did learn how to spot counterfeits. To the point though, it is of better use to us to know the REAL thing. It’s like studying all the world religions and never knowing Jesus.
Gracious Father, help me to grow in my faith and knowledge of You. Strengthen my understanding of Your Word and deepen my relationship with You. May I embody the virtues of faith, love, and moral excellence as I await Your return. In Jesus’ name, Amen.
The idea that "every Christian I've met is a hypocrite" could be based on the idea that the degree to which someone is a good person is the same degree to which they are a Christian, which some say is against the gospel He lllp
In 2001 I wanted to know Jesus so I decided to visited all the churches. I learned about Him after I gave up and read the scripture for myself. Now ... I visit churches without any inclination to preprove them of their false doctrines. I learned to embrace the peace of Yâhusha by telling myself: if they are serious about seeking the truth - they'll find it in the scripture (for themselves). I'm focused on getting my own house in order.
Love this! I relate. I struggle though when I visit churches and hear false doctrine….. it has made me not want to go to church. I get so annoyed when I hear people try to‘teach’ me something I know is not right. I want a body of believers …. So I’m lonely
@@Frei435the true church isn't inside four walls, the false doctrine being taught is in so many I choose to stay away. I engage many in conversation through media like this, giving scriptures, with which there is no argument, God's Word settles it. Fellowship with those of like precious faith is not easy to find, but it can be found, always be listening to the Holy Spirit, stay grounded in the Word of God, discerning of spirits is so important in these last days. We are in the birthpangs and deception is present around every corner. Stay vigilant and God bless you.
@Frei435 same no church has been true so I have no fellowship I have no brothers or sisters, in christ I don't feel alone because of my father if anyone had a zoom meeting I can join
Sorry John is not a confirmation, but the Word is. Scripture tells us to say who the false teacher is. Romans 16:17 - "Now I beseech you, brethren, MARK them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and AVOID them." Here is another example of naming names: “‘I know where you dwell, where Satan's throne is. Yet you hold fast my name, and you did not deny my faith[a] even in the days of Antipas my faithful witness, who was killed among you, where Satan dwells. But I have a few things against you: you have some there who hold the teaching of Balaam, who taught Balak to put a stumbling block before the sons of Israel, so that they might eat food sacrificed to idols and practice sexual immorality. So also you have some who hold the teaching of the Nicolaitans. 16 Therefore repent. If not, I will come to you soon and war against them with the sword of my mouth. 17 He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches (Rev. 2:13-17a). God does not tell us if you know a false teacher, keep your mouth shut and let your loved ones find out for yourself. The devil wants us to keep quiet so the teaching can thrive.
I’m about to have a baby, any day.. and I’ve been all over the place with that and knowing Jesus could come any minute so I needed this. Holy Spirit, guide me 🙏🏽
Read your Bible, so that you won't be deceived by false teachers. Jesus will come exactly when Scripture says: during "The Day of the Lord" (2Th 2:1-2), which day, Jesus called "The Last Day" (Jn 6:39-40,44,54), which is 7 years after a covenant has been strengthened with many (Dan 9:27), a covenant, which is presently far beyond the imagination of the most optimistic within the war-ravaged Middle East. His return will not become imminent, until the sun and moon are darkened, and the stars fall (Mt 24:29-30).
So glad that there are still preachers like you who are expounding the value of humility and following Christ's example of humble service in this pride-filled world.
The Holy Spirit will show me a situation or thought I've always looked at the same way and completely flip it to truth. It amazes me, sometimes in a jaw-dropping way. I am convinced there is no way to avoid deception w/o Him.
John, I was on the church board at Gaylord Assembly of God in Gaylord MI in 1994 and we had you come and speak for a few days. From the 1st book you wrote to now, you and Lisa have been a fantastic, and much needed long-lasting breath of fresh air of integrity and congruent humility, all in the strength of the Lord, and that further lights a fire in one's belly. I remember getting a Christmas card back then with your entire family of very young children and it's so fantastic to see how your children are zealous for the Lord.
This was so powerful for me. I have been guilty in my past of believing grace would cover my bad decisions. I repented for disrespecting God's grace un my past as soon as I watched this podcast. This was so helpful to my growth in Christ Jesus 🙌🏾
This is a needed message in this day and age.. Four years ago I was serving in worship capacity at church But I heard the wrong gospel and lies via online preaching. Those lies derailed my life. I suffered the consequences of beleiving lies ...for few years . Three years later I have learned the law of God is everything and fear of the lord is the beginning of wisdom. Father God I displeased you and sinned against you your mercy and your grace I don't qualify ...but You still give it to me. You are a living , just and Holy God. I bow to you alone . All praises to you.
@@nataliebritton8602 but not all will be accepted! Read the Bible for the conditions. False teachers will tell you all you need to do is believe. Believe what? Every Word of God, even the stuff you don’t like!
Im new in my ministry, God asked me to open up my home for small groups! And one thing I want is to always to be humble and teachable! Thanks for this pode cast! ❤
John seems to sincerely believe what He is saying. However, He does not seem to be aware that He has been deceived and is deceiving others while teaching two popular, ear-tickling doctrines: 1) Salvation other than by God's elective Grace alone (Eph 2:8-9, Rom 9:14-16, Eph 1:4-5). 2) An imminent coming of Jesus, with a "Pre-Tribulation" Rapture of the Saints, yet Scripture reports: The Coming of the Lord Jesus and our (Rapture) "Gathering" will occur on "The Day of the Lord" (2Th 2:1-2, 1Th 4:17-5:2), which day, Jesus called, "The Last Day" (Jn 6:39-40,44,54), thus, will occur 7 years after a covenant with many (Dan 9:27), which covenant appears to be many years yet future.
In order not to be deceived you have to know scripture. When I first got saved I knew so little. The Lord was truly moving in me at that time and I was so blessed to be attending a church with a very large choir and they let almost everyone in, no additions. What a blessing! So I joined the choir. I sang in that choir for 18 years and never realized that all that time I was memorizing scripture. Almost Everything we sang, old and new songs where the Word of God! And we had to memorize the songs. God is so great! I just automatically started learning scripture and didn't even know it! What a blessing. Si say to anyone reading this, start listening to Christian music and start memorizing the songs as tho you where going to sing with the choir on Sunday. You will learn the word so quickly and joyfully and not even know it. Then you will be able to recognize false profits cause you will know scripture. GOD Bless!
I have my Sirius radio set to play Christian music exclusively. That’s the music and message I want to be in my mind. It’s amazing to me how often bits and pieces come to mind on a daily basis, as you said. I’m not able to memorize scripture, but I remember the music. Praise God for that!❤
I absolutely love this. I used to sit under teaching that not only taught Grace allows us to live in sin and be fine, but if you were striving to be holy, you were a radical person who didn’t have tolerance for others desires. The last straw was using Harry Potter’s covenant from the pulpit to explain God‘s covenant because the pastors believed they were equal in some form. When I went to my pastor about it, I was then told how Harry Potter is used to help get people to heaven. He said God uses it to help those who don’t have access to the Bible and claimed it’s beautiful story about how Jesus loves us. Needless to say I have since found freedom from this. I’m still heartbroken for how many people I love who sit under this teaching, but I praise the Lord that he showed me the light.
I'm going thru this right now. God told me to leave and I had to move in obedience and faith. If you're feeling convicted about things and God puts it on your heart to live radically, and your Pastor says you're doing too much... run. God wants us to be willing to obey and BE HOLY BECAUSE HE IS HOLY.
Oh boy another Harry Potter fan...That's just amazing to me how ppl could read,believe and teach from witchcraft book in church.I heard stories about Christians into Potter books..They were burning them in the Ealy church and rightly so..God bless you
The Grace of God given to us, is through the Spirit of Grace, which is the Holy Spirit. The Grace of God allows us to fear and worship Him. Without his spirit of grace we can't live for Him. When you walk in the flesh, and in sin, you don't walk in God's divine grace. On the other hand, when you walk in the Spirit through God's grace, it leads you into sanctification. Sin and Grace are at odds with one another. People get God's Grace confused with the idea of God's graceful mercy. His mercy pardons us of our sins.
Our small book club group lead by the pastors wife decided to read Harry Potter...I did not participate. Later I think the Holy Spirit convicted her or her husband found out not sure but they read no more of those. It's scary to think our spiritual leaders might not be mature in Christ. That's why we need to stick very very close to Jesus and His teachings so we can no the difference.
Halleluyah. Amen. Thank You God for Your healing. Anyone with heart problems be healed in Jesus Christ name. Amen. Thank You Jesus. Thank You God for Your Son. I had pain in my chest, for no apparent reason, like a painful muscle spasm that comes and goes, and received healing at the end of the prayer. Thank You L-rd for Your love and kindness. Your word says believe and it shall be given. And I believe.
I love listening to John and Lisa. They always teach truth and have a passion to see people truly set free and have a revelation of who Jesus Christ is.
I've been struggling (in my understanding, not my faith) with hundreds of people receiving "a word from the Lord" across RU-vid. I've been asking the Lord to teach me, but I fail daily in my walk with the Lord. The opening segment of this podcast (which I've never heard of) answered my longing. "Read your Bible." That was my "duh" moment. I'm "too smart for my own good" sometimes and the Lord needs to humble me to get me to stop being so dumb. 😒 Thank you.
@@clintschmith4115 We as Christians do have a part to play by humbling ourselves. James 4:7 - So humble yourselves before God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you. Come close to God, and God will come close to you. Wash your hands, you sinners; purify your hearts, for your loyalty is divided between God and the world.
Love you pastor John!! I remember you and Lisa from Pastor Mike Kai’s church over 10 years ago, and I always sensed you and Lisa were very humble and teachable. Thank you both for contributing so much to the body of Christ. Praise God for your obedience in making disciples!!!! Keep fighting the good fight of faith!
Thank you John and Arden. I’m glad you are addressing this important teaching. You asked if anyone saw James speaking about false teachers to let you know. Yes he did, very strongly, but we miss the connection. Chapter 3 begins with a warning to teachers. Then we make a disconnect we are not meant to make. A small spark can set a whole forest on fire! One false teaching can spread faster than a fire and bring so much destruction!!! God showed me this. False doctrines can steer the whole ship away from the truth. Please consider this as I believe God wants to show you more. A terrible false teaching by a beloved teacher caused the holocaust!!!
Yes, all fasle teaching steers away from the cross of Christ, the only way we can truly be set free and saved. A truth that is overemphasized is a lie, and 90% pie and 1% arsenic is poison! 1 Jn 2 says that we have the Holy Spirit inside to show us the way, we just have to read the word and trust him! Totally agree with you.
It is so important to listen to godly leaders. It has immensely helped me in my faith walk. Most importantly, since my relationship w/the Holy Spirit has gotten so much stronger, He puts a check in my spirit. I honestly could not imagine a day w/o convos w/the Lord. I would feel like a deer in headlights when it comes to the enemy's destruction.
So I at one time was so on fire for God or I thought and I have just recently rededicated my life back to God and you are one of the people that I can listen to and actually understand and my spirit within leaps for joy when I see you. I have so many questions for a pastor/teacher to answer but I haven’t been to church since the pandemic and I’ve moved far away from where I once went to church. Thank you for all that you do.
John, thank you so much for this podcast. It's a breath of fresh air in a world filled with distorted teachings. I appreciate your clear and humble approach to addressing false doctrine. Your insights are invaluable. May God continue to bless your ministry and the work you're doing.
I have noticed that they are attacking the Bevere’s and it takes all of the Holy Spirit within me to hold my tongue and not lash out bc I have watched your family be very transparent and teachable for years. You never compromise the Word of God. I have to remember 70x7 all day long now bc people have lost their mind. Please keep us in prayer and pray over us in the Holy Spirit. Keep teaching bc I am listening. God bless the work of your hands🙏🏾
John is an associate of former superstar Pastor Robert Morris who is one of these false teachers. His messages on tithing is utter manipulation of the Body of Christ. John should point them out if he proclaims he knows how to discern. They are right under his nose.
Former superstar Pastor Robert Morris is one of these false teachers. His message on tithing is totally manipulation. John should point them out if he proclaims that he knows how to discern. They are right under his nose.
@@hman9581 John doctrine on false teachers is false itself. He even deleted scripture verses I posted as proof text that we are to call out false teachers. Romans 16:17 says, "Now I beseech you, brethren, MARK them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and AVOID them." There is no verse that states only to teach the real thing and that is enough for someone to know the false. You can't avoid someone unless you know who it is. Here is another example of naming names: “‘I know where you dwell, where Satan's throne is. Yet you hold fast my name, and you did not deny my faith[a] even in the days of Antipas my faithful witness, who was killed among you, where Satan dwells. But I have a few things against you: you have some there who hold the teaching of Balaam, who taught Balak to put a stumbling block before the sons of Israel, so that they might eat food sacrificed to idols and practice sexual immorality. So also you have some who hold the teaching of the Nicolaitans. 16 Therefore repent. If not, I will come to you soon and war against them with the sword of my mouth. 17 He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches. (Rev. 2:13-17a). "And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them " (Eph. 5:11). Reprove means to censure, condemn, find fault, rebuke, and to refute. God does not tell us if you know a false teacher, keep your mouth shut and let your loved ones find out for yourself. The devil wants us to keep quiet so the teaching can thrive.
John is in error with this teaching of not calling false teachers out. The Bible Admonishes Us To Expose Error "Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits, whether they be of God; because many false prophets are gone out into the world" (I John 4: 1). In Rev. 2:2, the church at Pergamos was rebuked because they tolerated those that held "the doctrine of Balaam, " and "the doctrine of the Nicolaitanes, which thing I hate" (Rev. 2:14,15). It is never right to tolerate false teachers, but they are to be tried by the Word of God, and exposed. Of course those who want to disobey the Word of God will seek by every means to avoid this teaching. Paul named Demas for loving the world. “For Demas hath forsaken me, having loved this present world” (II Tim. 4:10). Those who forsake the cause of Christ for worldly living and pleasures should be named and exposed. (Christian Rock!) Paul named Alexander the coppersmith. “Alexander the coppersmith did me much evil. the Lord reward him “cording to his works: Of whom be thou ware also, for he hath greatly withstood our words ” (II Tim. 4:14-15). It is clear that this is not a personality problem, but a doctrinal problem. These are only a few example that Bevere is not addressing.
Thank you John, I have lived a long life of pride and control without even recognizing it. The deception was real in my life. It wasn't until I really got into the Word that the Lord started to renew my mind. I have noticed when I get away from the Word and stop resisting the devil that the doors start opening back up and I give foothold to the enemy. This podcast really helped me to see all the mistakes in my life and rekindled a fresh awakening. What a blessing to get to do this with your son. Very precious and it reminds me of the relationship God wants with each and every one of us if we will repent and follow and genuinely WANT to be with Him and serve Him.
Wow just started watching and already came across a gem. When John talked about reading the Bible with the Holy Spirit, that resonated so well with me. And he is exactly right!! For the last couple of years I have been reading with the Holy Spirit and it seems like Jesus is talking to me directly. Even in Old Testament parts that most would have no clue how that pertains to us today. It's the most awesome and sometimes scary thing ever!!! I have non believing friends that Ihave been working on hard here lately. One texted me the other day and said that he would re read the Bible just for me now that he is an adult. That's when John's point really hit me. That text from my friend was super awesome but how will it read if he doesn't have the Holy Spirit reading with him? I'll be praying for him.
I'm just gonna focus on the first scripture you have twisted and taken out of context...spoken like a true deceiver “They read it not to search for God but to find arguments to support their own positions. They did not really love God; they loved their own ideas about him.” (Barclay) John 5:39 if you STUDY the scriptures you will understand. To say you don't need to read the Word is ludicrous.
So ``scholar told you people like I not seeking God?`` Blind like that scholar you quoting. And who actually came to argue,you buddy? Because if you have a little brain,when I say God is teaching me,you should understand that its not my knowledge,or my effort,so there is nothing to boast or argue about. 2nd when you read with eyes to see,only you can see me pointing to God to teach,which your unclean spirit cant swallow,and dont want to see... You : To say you don't need to read the Word is .... Ill say to you,to ``believe``in God that speaks,but never hear Him speak , seeking wisdom of man ,says everything about your ``faith``
These podcasts with John and Arden are live giving and so pure. Please continue to teach the truth in this way because it is such a blessing to many 🙏🏻 thank you for sharing the truth! It’s food for the soul!
Not so pure, upon close examination of Scripture. John seems to sincerely believe what He is saying. However, He does not seem to be aware that He has been deceived and is deceiving others while teaching two popular, ear-tickling doctrines: 1) Salvation other than by God's elective Grace alone (Eph 2:8-9, Rom 9:14-16, Eph 1:4-5). 2) An imminent coming of Jesus, with a "Pre-Tribulation" Rapture of the Saints, yet Scripture reports: The Coming of the Lord Jesus and our (Rapture) "Gathering" will occur on "The Day of the Lord" (2Th 2:1-2, 1Th 4:17-5:2), which day, Jesus called, "The Last Day" (Jn 6:39-40,44,54), thus, will occur 7 years after a covenant with many (Dan 9:27), which covenant appears to be many years yet future.
Praise Jesus Christ! It felt you were speaking to me directly at the end in tears 😭… of course it was the Holy Spirit! Also I was recently lead to this scripture earlier today. 🤯
John Bevere you hit a bullseye regarding easy grace. I love you and have for many years. I desire the fear of God. I desire to understand the power of grace over sin. I do not want a lukewarm relationship with God. I want to be the bright light that shines in the darkness. I want to be free from temptation and all the strongholds of Satan. Only God Almighty gave you that word and I receive you as his messenger. Please keep teaching faithfully the truth so the sheep can apply it and give God all the glory for Christ mighty work. With God's all consuming love press on .
John is an associate with former superstar Pastor Robert Morris is one of these false teachers. His message on tithing is totally manipulation. John should point them out if know proclaims he knows how to discern. They are right under his nose.
@@TeresaRomero-iu4hv The Grace of God given to us, is through the Spirit of Grace, which is the Holy Spirit. The Grace of God allows us to fear and worship Him. Without his spirit of grace we can't live for Him. Walk in the flesh and you don't walk in God's divine Grace. People get God's grace confused with the idea of God's graceful mercy. His mercy pardons us of our sins.
It's Grace that teaches us to live Godly. By receiving the abundance of Grace, is the only thing that causes us to reign in life. Romans 5:17. Being leary of Grace and watering it down into thinking you don't need an abundance, is never going to help you be more Godly. We are perfectly righteous before God by what Christ has done, not by anything that we do or don't do.
Thank you so much Pastor John! This is a powerful truth and wake up call for this generation. We really have to hear this. Thank you also for the prayer I received forgiveness as I’m convicted of believing in a lie that uses grace as a license to sin. Praise God for your life! 😭👏🏻🙌🏻
when i was starting my journey with my faith in God (and i still am at the introduction really), i checked if it was a sin to have pre-marital s*x, like to know if it's actually written on the bible and instead of reading the bible myself, i searched through google. i knew it was a sin but i just want to confirm and instead of confirming it through God's words, i turned to a search engine. and well, you know, i did it and i immediately felt sooooo guilty and that was when i decided to actually read the bible and confirmed it. now i learned that whenever i have questions, even on topics discussed by pastors or ministers or any believers .. i turn to the bible and ask God. He answers all the time. That is my faithful God, that is my teacher, He is my guide and my master ♥
John seems to sincerely believe what He is saying. However, He does not seem to be aware that He has been deceived and is deceiving others while teaching two popular, ear-tickling doctrines: 1) Salvation other than by God's elective Grace alone (Eph 2:8-9, Rom 9:14-16, Eph 1:4-5). 2) An imminent coming of Jesus, with a "Pre-Tribulation" Rapture of the Saints, yet Scripture reports: The Coming of the Lord Jesus and our (Rapture) "Gathering" will occur on "The Day of the Lord" (2Th 2:1-2, 1Th 4:17-5:2), which day, Jesus called, "The Last Day" (Jn 6:39-40,44,54), thus, will occur 7 years after a covenant with many (Dan 9:27), which covenant appears to be many years yet future.
Thanks for this. It is confirmation on one of my prayers. You are preaching exactly what the Holy Spirit reveiled to me. May God bless you and your family.
GRACE & PEACE |& LOVE & The idea that "every Christian I've met is a hypocrite" could be based on the idea that the degree to which someone is a good person is the same degree to which they are a Christian, which some say is against the Gospel Love is Aye!
In a previous podcast, you mentioned Psalm 103:2-3 really anchored you. I started praying about that, what scripture really anchors me and oddly enough it lined up so well with where your podcast is going in 2nd Peter 2. Today I read Psalm 145:18 “The Lord is close to all who call on him, yes to all who call on him in truth.” I love that so much! In truth.
John seems to sincerely believe what He is saying. However, He does not seem to be aware that He has been deceived and is deceiving others while teaching two popular, ear-tickling doctrines: 1) Salvation other than by God's elective Grace alone (Eph 2:8-9, Rom 9:14-16, Eph 1:4-5). 2) An imminent coming of Jesus, with a "Pre-Tribulation" Rapture of the Saints, yet Scripture reports: The Coming of the Lord Jesus and our (Rapture) "Gathering" will occur on "The Day of the Lord" (2Th 2:1-2, 1Th 4:17-5:2), which day, Jesus called, "The Last Day" (Jn 6:39-40,44,54), thus, will occur 7 years after a covenant with many (Dan 9:27), which covenant appears to be many years yet future.
Not church age but age of the Holy Spirit. That distinguishes us from what the Church is about. Having His inner voice testing, whatever word comes my way... finaly testing it in the word of God. Anybody can be a false teacher or prophet in a moment of self. Holy Spirit can only stand for truth, so all in relationship to Him!! He sticks closer than a brother... Jesus promised Him as the only true connection to Truth God has for us!
6:20 - I actually think James did warn us about false teachers without blatantly saying so. When he describes how partiality and favoritism in the church is sin...how a true follower of Christ shouldn't speak out of both sides of their mouth (spring of water being bitter or sweet)...how those who are truly the faithful will show their belief by the way that they live...and so on - He's telling us to inspect the fruit. This is how to identify false teachers and when we align ourselves with such people, we become friends with the world and enemies of God.
Scripture tells us to say who the false teacher is. Romans 16:17 - "Now I beseech you, brethren, MARK them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and AVOID them." Here is another example of naming names: “‘I know where you dwell, where Satan's throne is. Yet you hold fast my name, and you did not deny my faith[a] even in the days of Antipas my faithful witness, who was killed among you, where Satan dwells. But I have a few things against you: you have some there who hold the teaching of Balaam, who taught Balak to put a stumbling block before the sons of Israel, so that they might eat food sacrificed to idols and practice sexual immorality. So also you have some who hold the teaching of the Nicolaitans. 16 Therefore repent. If not, I will come to you soon and war against them with the sword of my mouth. 17 He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches. Rev. 2:13-17a. God does not tell us if you know a false teacher, keep your mouth shut and let your loved ones find out for yourself. The devil wants us to keep quiet so the teaching can thrive.
We were attending a church here in Bismarck, ND. One of the pastors stated that the gifts of the spirit are not for us. We made an appointment and met with him and the senior pastor. They affirmed that statement. So, I said so you don't believe in healing. They back tracked and said yes but you can't heal anyone. I said no I can't but I do believe in healing by prayer and laying in of hands and using oil. Well that's you healing. I said no that is God healing by my faith and doing what it says in the Bible. We stopped attending that church as I told them God didn't put the gifts of the spirit in the Bible for you to cherry pick which gift is for today and what is not. A few weeks later we started attending Evangel and the like the third time you were there John speaking. We were both relieved as we had done a couple of your Bible studies. It felt like a confirmation to us that we were in the right place. Thank you.
Unfortunately, the reason many do not believe in the gifts of the Spirit is b/c they (the gifts) have been misused and abused MUCH, usually in the name of popularity and money. :( Another reason is maybe a person didn't receive the healing that they so wanted. I heard one man actually get up and say that there were NO miracles at all b/c he didn't get the healing he wanted. Chances are, he didn't humble himself to the Lord and maybe had an attitude of demanding which the Lord will NOT answer.
But this is such a poor understanding of the scriptures. We have a clear issue at hand... understanding the sign gifts, gifts performed by others other than Jesus, and these throughout that last 2000 years have for all practice, disappeared. This does not mean that healing etc has disappeared but it's through prayer. We're not too fussed the sign gifts, if we do we living in some psuedo Christianity, some charismatic nonsense. So, it's not about believing in gifts if the Support, it's about rightly dividing the Word, and understanding why the signs were given in the first place. But this is rarely taught, especially in modern churches. America has let loose on the world some horrid teachings, from Wimber to Bethel. From the Pentecostal movement to Hillsong. We need to understand scripture and what is written by whom and to whom it is intended. For example, the gift of healing... is astonishingly rare, that is through a person laying on of hands, and there are very few cases throughout the last 2000 years. What we have instead is nonsense such as 'word of knowledge' or "God told me"... the church is full of this stuff. So, we have a reactionary theology which many misunderstand, that of cesassionism. Which is about the sign gifts appearing to cease in scripture.
@@hartleyhare251 Yes, I agree! The "signs" have been MUCH pushed and many preach that you can just demand them. :( Like an evil, sinful person can just demand something from a pure, Holy God???? *shudders I know a lady who was completely healed, BUT she did NOT get that healing from demanding it. She was in extreme pain and cried out desperately to the Lord. She had the faith to receive it at that moment and she was healed!! It's the same w/all of the gifts. FAR too much demanding and not believing and trusting the Lord. The problem is that as humans, we're attracted to the gifts, but wolves have come in and masqueraded as messengers of the Lord, pretending that they can give the gifts or teaching. My brother knew exactly 1 verse in the entire Bible and it was in Isaiah where it says "by His stripes we are healed." Unfortunately, he was using that verse to demand it and never got what he wanted and he died. It is the Lord Himself who demands of us! He demands repentance and humbleness. I know I repeat a lot, but it can't be stressed enough!
I 100% believe in the power of healing. However the times for me, were never actually “laying on hands” type healing. The first time my sister went and had a scan done in her groin area, and they discovered a tumor. So she had another appointment for a biopsy or scan (can’t remember the exact detail, it was like 5 years ago) and so when I was at church one morning during a worship song I wept and wept and prayed to God for Him to please heal my sister. When my sister went to her next appointment. The tumor was completely gone and the doctors were confused. The second time I witnessed a healing was a similar situation, but for my dad. He had a bump appear on his neck that he went to the doctor for and they scheduled a biopsy surgery for it. They had the scans and everything of it, and one day after church I went up to the prayer team and wept and asked them to pray for my father and to pray that he wouldn’t have cancer and be healed. Literally, my dad goes to do the biopsy and the lump disappeared. And the craziest part. When I told both of them how I prayed and prayed and that God healed them, they just didn’t really care. I was the only one overcome with joy at witnessing 2 separate healings. I’ll never take credit for doing the healing, obviously, but for some reason God heard my cry’s and decided to intercede, and I praise Him for that.
I receive this teaching and appreciate your humility and enthusiasm! I agree with my full bodily healing in Jesus name! Please pray over my spine, erosive arthritis in my hands and that I will begin to be well in my body! Thank you John
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LUKE 21:34 But watch yourselves, or your hearts will be weighed down by dissipation, drunkenness, and the worries of life-and that day will spring upon you suddenly like a snare. 35 For it will come upon all who dwell on the face of all the earth. 36 So keep watch at all times, and pray that you may have the strength to escape all that is about to happen and to stand before the Son of Man.” The Holy Spirit & my Bible. I'm good.
This is one of the best conversations I’ve seen about this topic. Thank you for being obedient to Him! How do we show we love Him? By obeying Him. John 14:15
It’s so good to see such a high level of enthusiasm! I feel this way as a new believer, but to see it in John who’s been doing this for 45 years is very encouraging. I can’t wait to see him at our church in October! ❤
First time here. I subscribed as soon as I saw you jumping up and down in your seat excitedly saying you love the Bible so much! Anyone who loves the Bible enough to get that excited over it is for me.
I just want to say how much I love you and Lisa for how you both preach and teach. Myself Tucson Az Zion city church we love you and your family! Praise the Lord for His word and using you and your family.
🤔 1 Timothy 2:9-15 KJV In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array; [10] But (which becometh women professing godliness) with good works. [11] Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. [12] But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. [13] For Adam was first formed, then Eve. [14] And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression. [15] Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.
Not so holy, upon closer examination of Scripture. John seems to sincerely believe what He is saying. However, He does not seem to be aware that He has been deceived and is deceiving others while teaching two popular, ear-tickling doctrines: 1) Salvation other than by God's elective Grace alone (Eph 2:8-9, Rom 9:14-16, Eph 1:4-5). 2) An imminent coming of Jesus, with a "Pre-Tribulation" Rapture of the Saints, yet Scripture reports: The Coming of the Lord Jesus and our (Rapture) "Gathering" will occur on "The Day of the Lord" (2Th 2:1-2, 1Th 4:17-5:2), which day, Jesus called, "The Last Day" (Jn 6:39-40,44,54), thus, will occur 7 years after a covenant with many (Dan 9:27), which covenant appears to be many years yet future.
Thank you so much. We so desperately need this. I am very grateful. I ended in tears asking Jesus to keep you safe because one thing scared me, you or your son mentioned your own humility more than once. It didn’t feel proud but it scared me. Forgive me if I am wrong, but before Him I want to take the risky chance of giving you a very, very gentle nudge. I am not postured to correct just gently nudge/start a discussion/remind how the devil wants to bring us down. pls don’t slip up because the body needs you. I’m praying and I trust Him to surround you guys in strength. ❤
I recently watched about having a proper fear of God that you preached. It peaked my interest and now I'm going to spend the next week or so trying to study what I can. Please pray for me that I may have discernment.
Thank you, elders. May the Lord bless and increase you. Amen. This blessed me on this night. I was one of the people you prayed for at the end there, John. Abba-Father in Heaven-thank you for your grace-ministers and forgiveness towards me and us who have sinned in this way, by believing and being under (willingly) false teaching and the message of the abuse of grace and the trampling of the Son of God, in Jesus' Name, Amen.
Wow! I’m so excited about the Word of God! I recently finished reading 1st and 2nd Peter and just Yesterday I finished Jude. To come across this podcast is just divine confirmation. Now I can actually hear what I studied from you guys and continue to grow in the knowledge of our Lord. Thank you 🙏🏽 ❤
John as a associate of Former superstar Pastor Robert Morris is one of these false teachers. His message on tithing is totally manipulation. John should point them out if know proclaims he knows how to discern. They are right under his nose.
What a breath of fresh air this is. It can get tiring listening to some who believe they are calling false teachers out I literally just listened to someone yesterday who was not only calling out someone but were actually making fun of them for what I perceive to be a disagreement not necessarily false teaching and they not only talked them out by name which happens too much I think but the played video of these people. I was kind of disheartened by it but God is good and here we are❤
Thank you Pastor John very great teaching. God bless you and your family and ministry. Thank you for teaching truth in this hour . Love you and your wife books. God bless you 🙏. God bless you son and his family.
