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@DarkEinherjar
@DarkEinherjar 3 года назад
I like how Zack completely laughed at the Aura of Silence. "Screw your taxes, I can discount more than you can tax me!"
@gunnerhebrlee9501
@gunnerhebrlee9501 3 года назад
Velma: Like zoinks, we gotta see who this Sisay really is! *Takes off mask* The gang: NAJEELA?!?!? Najeela: And I would've got away with it too, if it wasn't for that meddling interaction!
@Felhate
@Felhate 3 года назад
Lmao this made me spit my coffee. Love it! Had me loling for a while.
@grubgobbler3917
@grubgobbler3917 3 года назад
My only complaint is that Velma would say "Jinkies!"
@gunnerhebrlee9501
@gunnerhebrlee9501 3 года назад
@@grubgobbler3917 true, I was rushing to comment, I was at work screwing off lol!
@0ghma_
@0ghma_ 3 года назад
There’s feeding the fish, then there’s Folger’s “dump the entire box of fish food into the tank and hope the little thing doesn’t gorge itself to death” method…
@theatog
@theatog 3 года назад
You have no idea how satisfying it as to see his Ad Nau countered.
@MistaZiggy
@MistaZiggy 2 года назад
Odds are he already had the Counterspell but feeding him so many cards didn’t help
@abrahamdrinkin2534
@abrahamdrinkin2534 3 года назад
These guys don’t get enough props for the amount effort they put into these videos and the grueling schedule I bet they have to commit to so they can all be online together for the game in the first place
@Hitzel
@Hitzel 3 года назад
"The most valuable card in tonight's game has to go to Jhoira, Weatherlight Captain." Oko: Am I an elk to you?
@zealot2147
@zealot2147 3 года назад
I'm rather amazed 8 cards deep into the fish and no land, almost amazingly enough
@possiblypigeon
@possiblypigeon 3 года назад
what 26 lands does to a man
@nazgir5343
@nazgir5343 3 года назад
I've had similar with a greedy hand, 3 turns later still no lands, then someone wheels. still no land.
@oORoOFLOo
@oORoOFLOo 3 года назад
I can just jiggle at "ryan plays winconless stax". Gotta love it.
@SmugLookingBarrel
@SmugLookingBarrel 3 года назад
Folger: We shouldn't feed the fish Folger: *feeds the fish 5 cards and tries to win* Fish: Draws a counterspell Folger: Surprised Pikachu Emoji
@trveheimer6360
@trveheimer6360 3 года назад
i mean i get how opening hand ad naus is worth acting on it but after giving the izzet player 5 cards, i wouldnt have done it w/o a counter on my own end
@noisypr6048
@noisypr6048 3 года назад
Wow, you did have to put the Kraums cast at the end, did him dirty there 🤣
@nharviala
@nharviala 3 года назад
Got to love a playgroup that knows how to punish greed like that. Evened the game out quickly!
@1234573332
@1234573332 3 года назад
Folger you made a pact not to feed the fish and you fed it, we can never trust you not to again thanks..
@lukethedemoni
@lukethedemoni 3 года назад
It's also worth noting that the player that drew a whole new hand thanks to the fish has a "don't feed the fish" mat lol
@koanos2448
@koanos2448 3 года назад
@@lukethedemoni The funny part was that Zack had the Swan Song in their opening hand.
@jajo7
@jajo7 3 года назад
Honestly these kinds of people are the worst to play with. They get pissy when someone else does "thing" then they do that same "thing".
@emctwoo
@emctwoo 3 года назад
@@jajo7 I mean, it’s cEDH. If you can trick your opponents into let you get ahead you’re playing the competitive part right.
@salvatorestabile5547
@salvatorestabile5547 3 года назад
@@emctwoo ehh, deals/ pacts are supposed to be kept
@ZeraLord
@ZeraLord 3 года назад
I think Ryan threw the game away by going after Mike, at least with Jhoira still out. Double cloud key + everything, that deafening silence was the only thing keeping Zack from just popping off there.
@Skytho
@Skytho 3 года назад
also elking ikra over jhoira was confusing to me
@lukethedemoni
@lukethedemoni 3 года назад
@@Skytho that was probably a semi spite play after folger broke the pact he proposed
@washrotom9808
@washrotom9808 3 года назад
@@Skytho tbf they probably thought jhoira was sufficiently staxxed out by that point
@Exaurilo
@Exaurilo 3 года назад
My thoughts exactly, very bad call
@Someone-lg6di
@Someone-lg6di Год назад
Not positive due to releasesbut im pretty sure with najeela mike was 1 turn from going infinite
@iTheDuck
@iTheDuck 3 года назад
You can taste the salt when Folger tosses his Sol Ring to the graveyard
@alfredomarcelo6382
@alfredomarcelo6382 3 года назад
Funny that it's the guy who couldn't help but feed the fish.
@theatog
@theatog 3 года назад
@@alfredomarcelo6382 Also funny the fed fish won.
@HeyApples
@HeyApples 3 года назад
Rushing river from the top rope! Love seeing appearances by non-meta cards. Great job everyone, one of the better games I've watched in a while.
@DylanCEdh
@DylanCEdh 3 года назад
I will say Aura of Silence is one of my favorite stax cards in my enchantress deck
@argonnas2
@argonnas2 3 года назад
Isn’t there a tocatli honor guard when the dockside is cast?
@Pyroshax
@Pyroshax 3 года назад
**SPOILER** There is, but it doesn't really matter because he only used 1 of the treasures for 1 blue AFTER breach had already resolved, and Zack had an LED ready to go.
@SamuelKacerik
@SamuelKacerik 3 года назад
I am not sure if I see it correctly, but originally Dockside created 4 treasures. In the end Zack has 3 treasures and one untapped land so he would most likely win anyway even without creating treasures. I may be wrong though.
@theatog
@theatog 3 года назад
I don't get it. They were good at keeping track of the honor guard UNTIL that very point. For example, Derevi and Valki all skipped their triggers. Even though it didn't make a difference, there are few questions: 1) How is Mike able to keep track of Honor Guard, while the table watched him doing so (for example, no one tried to remind him he had etb triggers), and barely a turn later Zack misses it? 2) Why isn't RYAN who played the honor guard policing the table about ETB triggers. What's the point of playing the card if you either don't read it or don't care if it was working at all?
@trveheimer6360
@trveheimer6360 3 года назад
@@theatog shit happens, if a brain doesnt make zap the human forgets things..
@washrotom9808
@washrotom9808 3 года назад
Love seeing my list out there taking games!! You guys piloted her great
@jaredsmith6565
@jaredsmith6565 3 года назад
Great game, I feel like this is the first Jhoira game I've seen since dockside came out. Great game!
@lukethedemoni
@lukethedemoni 3 года назад
It's worth noting that the player that drew a whole new hand thanks to the fish has a "don't feed the fish" mat lol
@ghr1990
@ghr1990 3 года назад
How does dockside trigger with the honor guard out?
@oORoOFLOo
@oORoOFLOo 3 года назад
you tell us RYAN :)
@EvilJok3rr
@EvilJok3rr 3 года назад
How does Jhoira trigger on the Etherium Sculpter with Honor Guard out?
@DolphinDingus
@DolphinDingus 3 года назад
@@EvilJok3rr Jhoira's trigger was actually fine, since hers is an on-cast trigger.
@registeel8547
@registeel8547 3 года назад
Never EVER have i seen the utility of Tana. Regardless, this was funny af. Kraum got elked like it was christmas; sisay almost degenerated everything with oko, teferi and najeela; and jhoira drew half of Zack's deck, milling everybody with brain freeze. 10/10 would totally recomend to watch again. Thanks for the awesome content u guys!!
@nidecoala
@nidecoala 3 года назад
I think it's only to have her colours in your deck
@Bcdeano
@Bcdeano 3 года назад
Mike's deck is absolute fire. Awesome game. Probably one of the best in a while! love the grindfest...also, definitely a case for Oko being card of the game. Putting those commanders away so many times definitely had a huge impact.
@joshcarson2879
@joshcarson2879 3 года назад
Glad to see the end game review is back (unless it’s been back for a while and I’m out of the loop haha). It is one of my favorite parts of the videos.
@wintercat1027
@wintercat1027 3 года назад
Shouldn't dockside not work through Tocatli honor guard?
@salchi-papa
@salchi-papa 3 года назад
You're 10000% correct
@zealot2147
@zealot2147 3 года назад
You are correct I would like to think that it did not affect the game since Zack also had Petal in his yard and he protected his breach with the swat, or if he didn't yet he had plenty of recurring draws with 0 interaction from folger / ryan.
@edwardc9785
@edwardc9785 3 года назад
Yeah it should have, but I don't really think it mattered that much in the end. Plus I think he still had the mana needed to win without the dockside.
@copperthief9454
@copperthief9454 3 года назад
Man love seeing my fav commander go off in high tier content
@frosslass7116
@frosslass7116 2 года назад
I nearly frothed at the mouth seeing captain lannery storm in a CEDH game. She’s one of my favorite cards but she was so underrated when she was in standard.
@Kazz1187
@Kazz1187 3 года назад
12:45 damn i just noticed mike has all dual lands and gaea's cradle for lands. very spicy hehe
@delasvegas9644
@delasvegas9644 3 года назад
Elder gargaroth was a surprise
@adams333
@adams333 3 года назад
wasn't hullbreacher designed to stop this? it was a nice addition to stax decks.
@lordofdeath1876
@lordofdeath1876 3 года назад
It's banned
@Zaros2400
@Zaros2400 3 года назад
Hey Zack, do you think Mishra's bauble would be an acceptable replacement for Hullbreacher, since HB was banned?
@PlayingWithPowerMTG
@PlayingWithPowerMTG 3 года назад
Zack here, seems like a fine replacement. Honestly any efficient artifact should be fine. HB was one of those cards that if you could cast it, you should be playing it.
@needlermasta
@needlermasta 3 года назад
7:00 why did mike create a food token there? wouldn't it have been better to elk Jhoira? Was it just because of the Aura of Silence?
@dimitriosdoulgeris4659
@dimitriosdoulgeris4659 3 года назад
I didn't watch the video yet, but Ryan's gameplan sounds pretty good when you want to win. Who doesn't like to punch his opponents to death.
@Repaurcas
@Repaurcas 3 года назад
Zack could have also drawn his deck at the end😅
@JonathanHecht
@JonathanHecht 3 года назад
damn Ryan that's a spicy new deck you got there
@buddadragonmtg4848
@buddadragonmtg4848 3 года назад
Wow foldger my guy boo boo ya should have been patient and no feed the fish. Great game as always and the deciding factor for who goes first is great. Never change that.
@ADudeWhoExperiences1393
@ADudeWhoExperiences1393 3 года назад
WOOO JHOIRA! LETS GO! She was my first and currently only cedh deck. Some interesting card choices for the deck list here, less artifacts than expected with more non-artifact combos and value card.
@Vagrantlol
@Vagrantlol 3 года назад
"Powerful cards, powerful formats" *Plays Elder Gargoroth* yeah same
@HopelessRetirement
@HopelessRetirement 3 года назад
Lotus Field trigger while Tocatli Honor Guard is out?
@bradenskaggs5350
@bradenskaggs5350 3 года назад
Small misplay around 15:15, Zack's Dockside would not make any treasures because of the Tocatli Honor Guard on Ryan's board
@Nailgraizer
@Nailgraizer 3 года назад
Shame on Folger for lying about not feeding the fish.
@ingolf82
@ingolf82 2 года назад
how come cEDH decks don't run an eldrazi titan for just this type of scenario?
@StackedEDH
@StackedEDH 3 года назад
Fun game, y'all. Good work!
@linkrodri
@linkrodri 3 года назад
6:58 why +2 with a Jhoira at the table?
@Repaurcas
@Repaurcas 3 года назад
The Tournament links are not yet in the description I believe?
@PlayingWithPowerMTG
@PlayingWithPowerMTG 3 года назад
They should be there now. Sorry about that!
@naemsterino
@naemsterino 3 года назад
I feel like I will be hearing "he draws, then he draws and discards" in my dreams now lmao
@andresfelipefang6918
@andresfelipefang6918 3 года назад
Another win condition in Jhoira was to cast words of wind to represent a loop between Mox Opal and the talisman ({2} less because of the two cloud keys) bouncing each other but paying the one mana to skip the draw and make everybody return a permanent they control to their hand and then be one the with permanents XD
@nicholasbrozowski3558
@nicholasbrozowski3558 3 года назад
Did folger lose every single mana crypt flip this game?
@LemorasCards
@LemorasCards 3 года назад
Feeding the fish to attempt a main phase ad naus just don't feel right lol. Great game.
@thomassmart4227
@thomassmart4227 3 года назад
Folger: cast ad nauseam Mike: And I took exception to that
@zcck7885
@zcck7885 3 года назад
What an awesome game!! Love it!! Great job :)
@jamiehomewood7733
@jamiehomewood7733 3 года назад
I guess I'm confused with Jegantha. I don't understand how Mike can pay 3 mana to play Jegantha. What am I missing? 5:14
@bismarknepnep7784
@bismarknepnep7784 3 года назад
He "bought" it from the companion zone, paying 3 generic to put it into his hand. He isn't "playing" it
@jamiehomewood7733
@jamiehomewood7733 3 года назад
@@bismarknepnep7784 Gotcha. I was unaware of the Companion buy rule. That's what threw me for a loop.
@altietiam1957
@altietiam1957 3 года назад
Love the Jhoira win
@alessandrodellanno948
@alessandrodellanno948 3 года назад
At 5:50 how could sisay block kraum?doesn't he have flying?
@PlayingWithPowerMTG
@PlayingWithPowerMTG 3 года назад
Oko's +1
@hesnotbad9045
@hesnotbad9045 2 года назад
Damn, Folgers opening hand. Wow
@mkalaska
@mkalaska 3 года назад
Why aren't you guys playing in person now? Now that covid has settled down?
@PlayingWithPowerMTG
@PlayingWithPowerMTG 3 года назад
Great question! This game was recorded a few months ago, before everything opened back up again. We are looking to play in person again here very soon.
@BillyC500
@BillyC500 3 года назад
Nice variety in this match.
@Hasmaticcal
@Hasmaticcal 3 года назад
I don't think it would have stopped the win from Zack but, the way tocatli honor guard is worded, I don't think etherium sculptor would have triggered Jhoira since it is a creature coming into play which triggered an ability.
@scottlewis7654
@scottlewis7654 3 года назад
Jhoira's ability is on cast, not on etb
@SvviftDeath
@SvviftDeath 3 года назад
Is Mike allowed to use Jegantha as a companion in his deck? Captain Lannery Storm and Najeela, the Blade Blossom have the same Mana cost so wouldn't that turn off Jegantha's companion ability. Overall great game well played to all. That Kraum cast stat at the end was savage.
@jacobjensen7704
@jacobjensen7704 3 года назад
Read Jegantha again.
@SvviftDeath
@SvviftDeath 3 года назад
@@jacobjensen7704 I finally figured it out. I have been misunderstanding the restrictions for far to long. I need to look at my friends 5 color deck and see if he is able to add it as a companion too.
@benjaminwild2650
@benjaminwild2650 3 года назад
Where do we find the deck lists?
@PlayingWithPowerMTG
@PlayingWithPowerMTG 3 года назад
In the description.
@notimeleft1
@notimeleft1 3 года назад
Man I miss my jhoira deck. It was so fast and spicy
@StephenPaulRamsey
@StephenPaulRamsey 3 года назад
I live 5 minutes from Tier 1 Con. See you there!
@Snuske10006
@Snuske10006 3 года назад
The dockside in the end gave no treasures. Tocatli honor guard was still there. not sure it mattered but it might.
@washrotom9808
@washrotom9808 3 года назад
It didn’t, he had the LED and lotus petal, but good catch
@Snuske10006
@Snuske10006 3 года назад
@@washrotom9808 yea i didn't go back and do the math. just heard it while doing something else and remember the honor guard xD
@dathore
@dathore 3 года назад
Not that it matters, but, you missed the Honor Guard there, Dockside wouldn't have made any treasures at all, it didn't matter in the end, but it's still worth it to point out such mistakes.
@Hitzel
@Hitzel 3 года назад
Spoiler: . . . . Just to be clear, Zack was paying zero for 1-mana despite the aura of silence because of the number of cost reducers he had in play, right? I lost track of how many there were, but there clearly had to be lol
@rabidpickleosrs2995
@rabidpickleosrs2995 3 года назад
Was very confused at Oko being killed before the Time twister lol
@deant01
@deant01 3 года назад
mike plays second time with sisay. as a sisay plyer myself i would suggest to put jigantha into the 99. the cost of 3 can blow ur tempo and you can fetch it with sisays ability. cimpanion req blows ur card selection too. u need to tempo more and not rush into the najeela wincon.
@cooperking5307
@cooperking5307 3 года назад
Wow Folger just wow!
@Chuckapotamus
@Chuckapotamus 3 года назад
Jhoira woo! 🎉🎉
@DragonsWatchlist
@DragonsWatchlist 3 года назад
Wait... "Didn't pass out while snorting wasabi" wtf xD
@bamjo9
@bamjo9 3 года назад
Sisay is so strong, I don't understand why people don't put knife-strategy legendary in the deck. For example, I run Pramikon, Sky Rampartwhich would have saved Mike
@bryangreenhagen7494
@bryangreenhagen7494 3 года назад
Here comes the hullbreacher is banned crowd lmao
@sethswimmer6882
@sethswimmer6882 3 года назад
Damn, Folger breaking the fish pact like that was so vile. At least I know not to trust him now.
@wiiblewobble
@wiiblewobble 3 года назад
3:59 WHAT DID YOU THINK WAS GOING TO HAPPEN
@Joolenplus
@Joolenplus 3 года назад
I constantly see some turbo naus players do shit like this.
@xdlol5386
@xdlol5386 3 года назад
"Folger casts Kraum Ludevic's Opus"
@koreyg8552
@koreyg8552 3 года назад
The guy who drew like 6 cards in one shot won? Imagine that. Honestly after what filter did , feeding the fish like that to then just get countered I would have scooped . If you wanna just hand joira the win let us know before we start
@glupshitto5019
@glupshitto5019 3 года назад
i like the word greediness
@Sycord
@Sycord 3 года назад
That Turn 2 win attempt was a big mistake. I understand that you don‘t want a stax piece to come down before your attempt but not putting Jhoira on interaction with City of Brass open plus you feed her 5 extra cards is not a winning move imo
@abyss_trinity0014
@abyss_trinity0014 3 года назад
So instead of using responses to deal with zack, who drew a bunch of cards let's keep going after folger lol. Sounds about right lol
@sir_quirkus7206
@sir_quirkus7206 2 года назад
wow....dont feed the fish....proceeds to feed the fish more than ive ever seen a single player do lol
@VictorRamirez-hr4cl
@VictorRamirez-hr4cl 3 года назад
I know this is CEDH, but in playing all these expensive cards The Ur Dragon deck could have swept the floor with you. It's budget but a turn 4 double strike dragon would end things quicker. Running spot removal could be important since most of the stuff you guys do is counter. I've played against control and the mantra even if I lose is "make them have it: as cgb would say.
@camerondavis7668
@camerondavis7668 3 года назад
Wtf are you talkin about
@tedgop1932
@tedgop1932 3 года назад
Hmmm aura of silence has been forgotten multiple times. Dockside extortionist... doesn't have etb effect :/
@washrotom9808
@washrotom9808 3 года назад
Jhoira had 2 cost reducers, which negates the aura of silence for specifically Zack. You right about dockside tho
@Mercenary0712
@Mercenary0712 3 года назад
As long as Folger is here, Fishes world round don't have to fear starvation
@DarkEinherjar
@DarkEinherjar 3 года назад
Yeah, if you break a deal, you don't deserve to get any deals for the rest of your life.
@AnimeReaper114
@AnimeReaper114 3 года назад
Mmm, watching Jhoira's last turn... NUT
@jumpcutfilms1958
@jumpcutfilms1958 3 года назад
Damn Folger is one greedy player, wouldn't wanna be on a table with him. He also broke the one rule in commander, never go back on a deal, very scummy
@karolkurzawa3246
@karolkurzawa3246 3 года назад
#NeverTrustFolger
@ghr1990
@ghr1990 3 года назад
I knew that oko should have elkified jhiora.
@kstandish42
@kstandish42 3 года назад
Folger, forever never to be trusted.
@benoitbusque3601
@benoitbusque3601 3 года назад
Folger what the HECK man
@thetogtube2
@thetogtube2 3 года назад
MVP was OKO
@TheDejectedArtist
@TheDejectedArtist 3 года назад
Kraum Casts: 5. Bwhahaha.
@racheperry2502
@racheperry2502 3 года назад
I think the jhoira list is out of date because it has hullbreacher in it.
@PlayingWithPowerMTG
@PlayingWithPowerMTG 3 года назад
It's not. This episode was filmed a few months ago and Hullbreacher was still legal.
@MTGSavage
@MTGSavage 3 года назад
I’m disappointed at Folger 😣
@Halinn
@Halinn 3 года назад
Zack could use the tips from this video by the Spike Feeders: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ZqeLft9FEmw.html
@daseinoseven4514
@daseinoseven4514 3 года назад
Oh, dude… Folger? Really?
@whateverman187
@whateverman187 3 года назад
So...Red Elemental Blast on Kraum was the only instant speed spot removal played the entire game!? No wonder Jhoira won.
@PlayingWithPowerMTG
@PlayingWithPowerMTG 3 года назад
Teferi prevented a lot of interaction this game.
@ludwigfleischhacker3673
@ludwigfleischhacker3673 3 года назад
ikra has menace, so it couldnt have been blocked by sisay
@CBowman150
@CBowman150 3 года назад
Oko turned it into a 3/3 elk with no abilities, so ikra no longer had menace
@Ragmesesis
@Ragmesesis 3 года назад
Tired of stax decks lol.
@mhtanks
@mhtanks Год назад
Nah bro those opening hands are forged.
@PlayingWithPowerMTG
@PlayingWithPowerMTG Год назад
Do we forge the ones where someone mulligans to 4 as well?
@mhtanks
@mhtanks Год назад
@@PlayingWithPowerMTG Maybe like 2 of those were forged though, but nobody had a 4-card opening hand 🤔
@bobbyperez2955
@bobbyperez2955 3 года назад
Okay sorry, but wasn’t Folger’s play just awful? He first lies to the table, then proceeds to feed the fish FIVE TIMES, goes hellbent, and obviously the blue deck you just let draw five cards has an answer. Zack missed his land drop too, so Folger should’ve waited. I’d quit the game if an opponent made a play like that lmao.
@jacobjensen7704
@jacobjensen7704 3 года назад
His commanders let him recover quite nicely, so I'm guessing he went all in on turn 1 Ad Naseum and then Kraum back-up plan. Probably the main reason Kraum got axed so many times- to prevent Folger from recovering.
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