This is the ONE we have been waiting for!!! Leeeveeee Jim Aloooone. ❤ 😂 She always struck me as the type who uses people when they are needed and ghosts you when you're not necessary.
I feel like NK used him to cover up/dispose of the bodies and other evidence. And I feel like she used him because he was weak for her. And she is ruthless. Part of me pities this man. But if he really did help cover NK's guilt, he needs to come clean. Elsewise he will never have peace.
When the detectives asked to talk to Jim to just say she was with her and she said "leave Jim alone " . RED flag. Why wouldn't she want to clear her name immediately if she was trying to be so forthcoming and helpful 🤔
Well if he was involved he won't want to go to prison for his involvement. So it would be a tough decision to make. Unless he cracks like Saje just said.
So from the sounds of your reading, you said Jim was aware that bad things were going to happen, but he didn’t think she was serious? That would definitely be hard to live with in my opinion. In one of her interviews with LE, she said Jim was in town to see her and the detective said oh, so he can vouch for you if we talk to him. Then she started freaking out saying “Leave Jim alone!” Then she said something like he doesn’t need to be involved or bothered with this. I have always felt like he was the key to finding out NK’s involvement. Let’s hope he cracks soon and reveals what really happened. Thank you, Saje for another insightful reading!
I think Jim helped NK conjure up a demon in the basement. And that had to be his red car that we see leaving on Nate's video because neighbor Betty does not have a red car. I don't feel sorry for him. He needs to come forward & spill ALL the beans - ALL of them.
Can you see if Jim watches you? And I wonder 💭 if it was Jim that one of the neighbors saw sitting down the street watching I believe the day after. The neighbor said there was a guy in a truck (possibly someone else too, but I’m not for sure) sitting watching towards the Watts home the day or two after murders. And the neighbor saw him throw I believe a beer can out and pull off, but then came back and picked the can up and left. I’ve always wondered if it was Jim. Thanks so much Sage for these readings. I’ve always felt as well that Jim WAS in love with NK. Poor man!! Just go and tell the truth!!
I have the feeling jim may of killed before and nk gave him an alibi which made jim putty in nk's hands he owed her and he was pushed into being involved.
Yeah I think it bothers everyone who are right into this case. How involved was he? To what extent? Was he at the Watt’s house? If so when? Was he at cervi 319, if so what all did he do there ? And on and on. There are so many questions for Leave Jim alone?? Or, is it bc NK told him everything and he promised not to say a word? Was that him down the street who threw the can of beer out of his truck then came back to grab the empty can? Mr. Jim Gutowski you do need to come clean! Error in his name ( extra letter?)
I’ve always had the feeling that Jim and Charlotte were at the Lazy Dog and this was the strong arm planning session to make sure Chris followed through with the plan. Why did NK google Ronnie Watts right before the murders? Never heard an answer on that one…
I think there were other players at the Lazy Dog. NK and CW initially went to the wrong Lazy Dog, which explains why they went to the same restaurant at two different locations. The story is that they didn't like the menu at the first one, which is BS. A couple of RU-vidrs confirmed that the menus are identical at both Lazy Dogs by calling both establishments. I'm unsure if Charlotte or Jim were part of the plan, but Jim knows something. There has to be video surveillance at both locations. Why weren't these videos included in the discovery.? Oh, that's right. Rourke stopped the investigation because CW confessed, never verifying if what CW confessed was true or even feasible. Incidentally, I always thought the text conversation between NK and Charlotte was a ruse to make the police think that NK wasn't as serious about CW as she was. The timing of their text conversation was too convenient. However, I'm not sure Charlotte knew anything about the plan at that point. I think NK involved Charlotte for a cover story.
Been following this story from the beginning. Recently became a subbie to your channel. You touched on things on this case that I personally think are true. Jim is a long friend of their family. Her father brings him up while police were integrating NK. (That was b.s BTW, I know u knew that) Jim has love for NK and it's an old love. She uses him to gain support and (she was hoping) he'd be a rock for her (she knew he'd help her) but I think your spot on with the fact she dumped out what had happened and even probably excluded facts to him. He's feeling the pressure of his feelings and knowing he's being used. I think it weighs on him. It's to much and it's not going away. I recently hear she's using his last name (so not surprised) and thinking this will blow over. She WAS involved. Thank u for your reading. It was great. Best and blessings to u. If NK actually reads this (I think she does) it going to come full circle and it's never going to fade.
I feel he helped her dispose or something to do with these kids. I’m saying this before watching the video… and I’m only 2 mins in, but I think he totally helped her, and helped with disposal, keeping her safe … I always wondered if since Jim was a friend of her dad, I believe they employed him to help. He knows everything…. Just my opinion.
Is Jim also a member of the O.T.O. along with NK? If so he knows what certain members (& empanadas) of the O.T.O.are capable of & has decided to keep out of it, IMO.
@@meaningfulmotivations Hi meaningfulmotivations, You must be new to "Watts Island" ! Empanadas is what CW referred to NK as, & NK now has acquired that nickname (amongst others). I used her nickname to obliquely refer to her that is all. It is not an esoteric reference but is a specific Watts Island reference to NK.
There are so many awesome true crime sleuths out here shining the light on truth and getting very involved in researching cases, if I was a DA, I would be contracting some internet sleuths on some of these crimes.
Wow!! London!! ❤️❤️❤️. I am obsessed with watching the King’s Life Guards on RU-vid! I love everything about the UK. ❤️ Love and light to you and yours!❤️❤️❤️
Ohhh. This is about Jim..not the dad! Ok..please consider doing the dad!! THAT should prove to be interesting! Now I gotta remind my brain and video, lol!😮
I've always felt from the beginning that Jim was definitely involved with digging hole, disposal of bodies and possibly killing Bella and Cece...I also believe that NK blackmailed Jim with some 'previous' dirt on him to force him to take part and even threatened his life if he dared to say anything!! Just my opinion, of course!! It's just so obvious to me with the way she outright refused to give his info to Law Enforcement!! It still blows my mind that LE just basically said "ok" and didn't look into him!! It's all SO sickening!!
I still think that Nichol Kessinger unalived Bella and Cece and put their bodies in the tanks. I think Nichol Kessinger and Chris dug the hole a couple of days before the murders. Chris and Jim put Shanann's body in the shallow grave. I do think that there was at least Chris, Nichol Kessinger, Jim, and Charlotte at the Watts house that early morning and involved in the unaliving and disposal of the bodies. I think Shanann was unalived at the house and taken out the back to Nichol Kessinger's vehicle. Nichol Kessinger attempted to smother the girls at the house, but Cece was brain damaged but still barely alive. Bella woke back up. The girls were put in Chris Watts truck. Bella walked out to the truck. And Nichol Kessinger carried Cece out to the truck. Nichol Kessinger smothered both girls a second time and put their bodies in the oil tanks separately. Then she drove back to Watts house parked down the street and entered the house through the basement window to clean up and try to field calls on Shanann's phone. Only she didn't know the password, and neither did Chris. So she ransacked the office to see if she could figure out the password. Nichol Kessinger was still in the house when Nikole Atkinson came by to see how Shanann was doing. You hear deiter bark at first when officers first arrives but a little don't hear deiter barking anymore. This means that someone clearly was in the house when the officer first arrived. Nichol Kessinger's truck was spotted down the street by Betty. This is just my opinion
This man actually on his fb page's banner shows a pic of an electric meter with "watts" plastered across the front if it! Please explain that! It's soi creepy and vile! They are both 2 nuts of the same tree!!
If Jim didn't help in the murder ,but he knows what happrned then his dumb butt, needs to go too the POLICE! Screw NK Jim needs to do the right thing. NK is a user poor Jim if he only knew what he was getting himself into. Screw the moneyJim is just as bad as CW and NK in my opinon for not doing the right thing. Jims conscience isnt that bad or he would do the right thing. This isn't something you keep to yourself, when a family is greaving over a senseless murder. This irks me to no end! 21:52
Just found this reference to Jim. "According to Reddit and internet sleuths, Kessinger started dating a geologist named Jim Gutoski after her relationship with Chris ended." But other sources say that he arrived to visit NK on August 13th at 3.45 I think. He had a key to her house as well. Another comment said that he was an old family friend. Hmmm. It's all strange.
Love 💕 your readings….. so on spot…. Jim …. I feel sorry for him.. I think NK sucked him in to her drama 🎭 and he just doesn’t know what to do…… and I truly believe she is suffering…. Her little plan got foiled, I don’t think she sleeps well at night, and she played a stupid game and won a stupid prize….. no CW no nothing….. most men probably want to stay clear of her….. blessings to you 🙏🏻💕☮️
If this reading is on par then Jim doesn’t feel guilty enough imo. Little girls were murdered how could you possibly put anyone in front of that so that makes Jim just as bad it’s been almost 7yrs since the murders so Jim has had plenty of time to do the right thing and he still hasn’t.
I'm sorry, but I don't feel sorry for Jim. Four innocent lives were lost and Shanann's family has been treated so incredibly bad. And he still puts NK first. She used him and continues to use him by making sure he remains quiet. For his sake, I hope he does the right thing and goes to the proper authority and confess. Who knows what role he may or may not have played, but he knows what NK did and what CW did. Are there other folks that are putting the heat on Jim to remain silent? Is this picture even bigger than what we know? Are the DA, NK's dad and even Anadarko involved in the cover up? I pray that the CW story continues to play out over and over again given NK said she felt things would blow over and they haven't. Sorry, just all MOO. I, like so many, want complete Justice for Shanann, Nico, Bella and CeCe as well as Shanann's family.
I think you are for as speaking thats why this has happen. Cant believe. He does. Not to time to dive into your phone and let me know if uour coing ton8ght
