Jim Cornette Looks At January 1988 

I was thinking this a week ago. A really great piece of design.

I'd love if he had a separate show talking about the history of pro wrestling.

The stories that Cornette has talked about are great. Doesn't get old.

Summerslam wasn't until 1988.

There was no Summerslam in 87

Also, this was a Million Dollars in 1980's Money. This is why if one went to a WWE Live Show in Spokane, Washington the guys hardly did anything compared to a show at The Boston Garden because one couldn't go Full Tilt every night on that crazy road schedule, unless one was doing a TV Taping and even then one might not see a Competitive Match.

@@KHayes666 Just curious, I get why yothisistonyyovillain pointed out the typo. But what did you think your comment added? Does it have to come from you or something?

@@gogotonyyo Wow, thanks for making my point even stronger, thanks!

@Uncle Osiris It was less expensive to broadcast Raw on the road versus flying the whole crew in to NYC from wherever they were on the road, according to Bruce Prichard and a few others within the company.

Dusty got burnt out in from mid 87 to late 88 when he lost his booking gig

Let's be real by 87 JCP was on a slide and it wasn't Dustys fault. The problem is that the roster needed a shake up and didn't get one. The Midnight Express was stale, Rock n Roll too, Dusty, Ric and etc all had been there. You can't have the same people on top for more than 2 years and expect to continuously draw in the same exact places.

@@smarkslowplay3512 he didn't get burnt out. His talent got played out...

@@fatalsniper3413 I'm with ya but not on your assessment of the Midnite Express. They were at their freshest around this time with the newly acquired Stan Lane. They got stale with Condrey.

Thank you.

Once cable came in, things were probably destined to consolidate on a national basis, it was just a matter of who was going to run things.

@@timf7413 Sadly yes and nobody has figured out how to create the type of talent that made wrestling hot in the 80's and mid to late 90's without the territories. The wrestling business is on fumes now, and sure there is some pretty good talent out there, but little to no STARS like we used to have.

Territories couldn't survive in the satellite/cable tv era

@@AnArchyRulzz Shit wrestling itself can't survive the internet era

The Dude Competition is part of the reason some of the territories went out of business.

The Territories were going to die at some point probably by the internet age, you couldn't run the same cards with the same finishes at multiple venues in a region with out people starting to post and talk about the results and realizing that it was worked which would had been a serious wound for them. No what killed the business was nationwide hotshotting by WCW and WWF/WWE in the Monday night wars and of course the horrible booking and angles just dumb shit like Mark Henry getting a what 70-80 year old May young pregnant and her giving birth to a hand? The finger poke of doom, just about every thing Russo booked, etc. It just screamed hey we're not something you take seriously, we're like a circus with grappling. Now I agree competition is also what is hurting things as you only have one big place to see wrestling and it's run by a out of touch 70+ year old coked up, roid freak who barely sleeps and changes his mind more in a couple hours than a baby gets it's diaper changed in a month. Sadly no one right now is in a position to be competition. TNA was the closest by simple fact that it had a sweet TV deal on a big network Spike, now Paramount TV and a roster of amazing talent that could of help get TNA up there had they not tried to be WWE lite but Dixie was full of herself and a dumb shit to boot and got worked by Russo and then Bischoff and Hogan and then Russo again. What's is even sadder is look how much better and over TNA guys are after they left. So much wasted potential. Now TNA/Impact is such a tainted brand, I doubt that despite all the effort Anthem is putting in and so far trying to do it right finally, is not going to make a difference.

@@The_Real_DCT True technology would of killed one aspect of it, wrestling would of needed to change but I agree with Jim its changed to something thats not engaging on any level..

yes!

Yep, I was 8n 3rd grade. Good times

I remember, shut Ga down for sure. I was in 9th grade.

Boiling Springs here!

Ever since they built the lakes the entire Upstate just had bad weather. Sucks for me cause I live so close.

he has been promising a smoky mountain wrestling video for about 5 years and it still hasn't materialized, if he decided to do that book it will take him 50 years lol. He is always too busy XD.

He still has his first quarter stuck in the back of his head, he dropped it and it hit him on the way down.

Well he wasnt alone he was the rare side there were a lot of tight modern wrestlers owen hart for example was famously tight

The Stampede worked better as a regular battle royal with more participants. Having it inside a cage completely defeats the purpose of a cage. The cage is supposed to keep the action inside. Throwing the guy out the door is one thing but over the top of the cage is just implausible.

Corny makes everything personal, so he didn't like Nikita (or Nash, HHH, etc) which means Nikita sucked...bullshit. Nikita was Goldberg with talent, Flair, Magnum, Tully, Taylor, he had great matches with all.

had some great matches going for ric falirs nwa title

Crusader7077 Waking up glued to a wall would be last shocking than that comment. Two terrible workers.

That 87 Bash match was a bit of a chinlock-fest tbh.

I think what really hurt Crockett was getting sabotaged on PPV.

Not only that, they fucked up by holding the ppv in New York. Going into Vince's backyard with a confusing backwards battle royal screams "southern wrasslin". Dusty could have booked Bubba to win but it wouldnt have mattered because the Long Island crowd wasnt into it

​​@@KHayes666 The true "backwards battle royal" wouldn't come until TNA. The Bunkhouse Stampede was just a Battle Royal in a cage. Having to toss the guy over the top of the cage is ridiculous. I think you could also go out through the door, but yeah it's lame. And it came down to Barbarian vs. Dusty. Just saying though, it wasn't a reverse battle royal. It wasn't confusing, just weak

Not alot of Cowboy Bunkhouse Stampede type talk anywhere in NY and Dusty wasnt really over there ,nor was Flair at the time at all barely known unless you where a real fan

@@DonSmith2323yea I’m grew up 15-20min from Nassau coliseum and went there multiple times a year for wrestling, had a ton of WWF toys, huge wrestling fan but growing up in the 80s I didn’t have cable and had no idea who Dusty Rhodes was until the polka dots, none of my friends or classmates knew of him either

@@KHLB516 i grew up in Niagara Falls Ontario and i only knew of Dusty and Flair because of wrestling magazines my pops would buy for me from the old school smoke shops that sold cigars and magazines and cool stuff especially when your lil kid they've all but vanished here now...but 100% WWF country i used to go to Niagara Falls convention centre on USA side near Buffalo to watch WWF it was and is WWE country til this day....Did you ever go to ECW ??and what did you think of it...i just watched the full history of ECW documentary was pretty awesome to go back i also enjoy Smokey Mountain which is also on YT is a great watch for old school wrestling

Better than any racist Black Lies Matter pos

I can identify with that. I also lived in an area where we just had WWF. It was actually WWWF when I started watching it and it was pretty good. I went to a few shows including Andre vs. Hogan where Hogan ran away after maybe 8 minutes because he was afraid. Around 1983 or whoever "Hulkamania" started, it became very different. It was a very juvenile product deliberately made to appeal to children. I stopped watching wrestling. But when we finally got JCP wrestling, I tried that and I loved it. It was gritty. It wasn't this slick, Hollywood type product. It was the mud, the blood, and the beer. Ric Flair as their champion was so much better than Hogan as WWF's champion was so much better it's incredible. Also starched '83 had the dog collar match between Piper an Valentine. That was a brutal, bloody match and the kind of thing you just didn't see in WWF.

Hello from the Northeast, sir! I grew up on WWF television from 1991 to about 2002ish. I agree completely about your new perspective on NWA programming as an adult.

It was Tully Blanchard who said around this time, "Dusty should book himself against Dusty".

Me too

sinicalypse Broadway basically means a time limit draw

Some of their draws were all time great matches

he probably was comparing it to the crowds of back in the day and you were comparing it to today's crowd. big difference.

I was born in March 2001

geek hour i porking your bride in 88 of jan, and feb thru dec

How? He paid guys more in a week than they made in a month.Yeah many went from mid to upper card in the territories & indies to jobbers in the WWF.Wrestling is predetermined anyway so then it’s all about pride.

Wilson Jimenez that’s what I do.

Dive deeper you can see Jim's 3rd eye

Definitely both

the $300,000 where what they where exspectet to make with the houses over the year and if they where under this summ by the end of the contract year they get the differenz as a so called ballon paymant

And he had to live off Goddamn 7-11 chicken nuggets for a day and a half. You know the fuckin' machines they used to have where they dropped the nuggets in the oil and fried them? Didn't even have any goddamn honey mustard.

Crockett and Vince attracted different crowds. Vince was drawing kids who liked the clownish gimmicks. Crockett drew adults who wanted to see physical matches that felt real.

I'm midwestern, 35. But JCP/NWA/WCW was better.

Virginia born, Tennessee raised here. And i loved the old JCP/NWA years in the 80's and later WCW and WWF in the late 90's.

I'm from Norfolk Virginia and it was NWA or nothing I didn't even know WWF existed until 89

True, but you know how Vince feels about talent he didn't establish.

Well at this point all the WWF talent was established somewhere else, Vince would just give them a gimmick. WWF already had been raiding top talent and with in the year would have Rhodes, and 3 of the 4 Horsemen. All the territories were dying and it was just a matter of time for JCP. Once Turner bought it their only hope would of been what Bischoff did a decade later, spend money and get top stars.

No, he thinks they should have continued to do what they did best, and not try to compete with Vince at the shit that he did best. They could say anything, the truth is that most of the talent wasn't making shit. Just like today. Same old scam. Promise the stars, and all most people get is the moon. (think about it moron).

Donald WHO?

But those aren't 6's.... Just because something looks like a backwards 6 doesn't make it one. And either way, who cares, those are all just fairy tales anyway.

No those are 6's but it's just hidden. I don't believe that everything is a conspiracy but million and billionaire corps use symbology like this all the time. I just never noticed it in JCP's little design. It could be a coincidence on their part but I doubt it. If someone doesn't see hidden symbolism in hollywood, products or elsewhere I don't know what to tell you. Not sure what fairy tells have to do with any of this. Non-religious people do it all the time. Jews who are atheists do it more than anyone.

Black Sabbath But they aren't 6's. Unless you live in a mirror world, they just aren't. And I think you're looking into it way too hard. What would they get out of hiding some sixes somewhere in their logo? Especially when they don't even make them sixes.

Face palm

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and Ric Flair...

Trump means it by standing up for Putin?

It was Obama, not Trump, who was President when the Russians interfered in the 2016 election. Obama told his intelligence people to "stand down" from investigating. Trump blew one of Putin's airstrips to kingdom come. It was Congress, under Obama, who acknowledged Russia's control of Crimea. Trump is the one pushing to reverse that, to not recognize Russia's control of Crimea.

Incorrect. It was Mitch "The Snapping Turtle" McConnell that wouldn't allow obama to act. Everything trump does, every day, screams his guilt of what he's being accused of. Especially his "performance" at Helsinki.

Obama, through Susan Rice, ordered people to stand down from investigating Russian interference. According to Susan Rice, the order came from Obama.