Cornette said he's voting for Biden after he already proved to be be the worst, most corrupt president in history blaming Republicans for the economy that Biden ruined that IS crazy talk #pedocrats
I'll never forget when Jim & Tammy Baker got divorced because I was taking a nap that day and had the tv on & when I woke up, there was Tammy giving a speech at a church or something and announcing their divorce while tears were coming down her face and makeup was running everywhere, and it scared the shit out of me. Not the first visual you want to see waking up from a deep sleep. It was like waking up to a horror movie character standing over you at the head of your bed.
As a Christian, I apologize. This is not what our religion is about even though I understand these thieves and hateful behavior are the biggest representations to the public. I’m sorry. None of it is in line with Jesus’ teachings
Anybody with a brain that works knows that these fools don't represent what Jesus spoke of and tried to teach. Thank you for the apology but they are the ones who should apologize. Stay humble friend
I feel like these church leaders know the jig is up and they know people are aware. So they’re just milking the boomers until the funds dry up. And they’re very up front about it. 😂
A 45 minute listen of Corny ranting about televangelists? I don’t care if it is 11AM on a workday. I’m popping a beer and kicking back to enjoy this one.
@@shalom8858 Jim's right about everyone, we tried to say trump is a grifter and Grifters always going to grift.... Not all Americans are conmen and fraudsters
I am a Methodist Minister. Nationwide, Church membership is on the decline. If a Church's Membership can no longer support an individual Church, that Church can be closed and its membership transferred to the nearest same denomination Church. The closed Church building can then be sold to another Church group. These days most traditional Churches are barely breaking even (Income vs Expenses). The Mega Churches (like Joel Osteen) are the real money makers. Chuches should be taxed if their income exceeds more than they need to support the day today operation of the Church. They should pay taxes on non Church related Income. Only the Place of Worship, the Minister's Residence and a building doing Church work (like a homeless shelter) should be tax exempt. Some Mega Churches (including the Catholic Church) own a lot of non Church related Church Property which should be taxed. Pastor do not pay taxes on their salary. Their supposed lower salary is based on them not having to pay taxes. Churches do have to pay a "Franchise" fee to the Home Church Denomination. The biggest problem is accoutability. Churchs (expecially Mega Churches) aren't required to release their financial records to the public. So we don't know the Pastor's Salary, the Church's Income and Church expenses. In the Methodist Church our books were always open to the Public (even though they didn't have to be). Each year the Church Membership was presented our annual budget to vote on. Everything was explained in detail. Total Income (Tithing, Sunday Collections, Annuities and Fund Raising). Total Expenses (the Salaries of the Pastor, Church Secretary and Organist, building maintenance costs, Utilities, etc.) All Churches should be required to have this kind of visibility with their financial records.
I once saw a tv preacher say that if you can not afford to give him money because your family is struggling...then it is the most important time TO give him money. He said that God will help them with their money problems. All they have to do is send the preacher the little bit of money that they do have. You should give God money even if it's all you have... They are some low down dirty con men.
I'm waiting for the Church of Cornette so they can get that sweet sweet tax exemption. :D "And now turn to page 3 in your hymnal where we will sing 'The Cult of Meat with Extra Cheese'"
Wow!! Ernest Angley!! His church was my go to church back when I was a kid!! Though his over the top mannerisms is one of the first reasons I started questioning religion. At the end of his service he'd invite people down to the right side of the theatre to offer personal prayer. One time I went down there and there was about 4 rows of people. When it started you'd hear people crying and making some crazy ass noises. Then Ernest would come by one by one to everybody "bless" us and bop us on the fucking head to make us fall back into the seat. My aunt was crazily into him and whenever she couldn't go to church she'd put him on TV and put her hand on the TV during prayers and such. She's always be taking money to give to the church when she didn't have too much to give while Ernest was making millions. He died a few years back, at the age of 99, just shy of 100. The hallways leading to Sunday school for kids was just lined with pictures of demons and other scary stuff to scare the kids into religion basically. After I started my shift into being non religious, I went a few times and I would tell my aunt I'd take care of the donation and then just not put anything in lol. That was a nice little trip down memory lane, never thought I'd hear that name on this podcast lol.
Great insight into a peculiarly American phenomenon. I know tv evangelists exist elsewhere but it's such a huge thing in the States, stitched into the religious framework of the country. Thanks for sharing this, Jim and Brian.
1980 was the peak of American religiosity. Something like 80% of Americans were members of a church. No point in American history came close to it. There are still a lot of Joel Osteen fans, whose theology barely qualifies Christian, though they're all a lot older. Low rent evangelicism like Benny Hill appeals to and exploits poorer people who think they might reach the American Dream by having a transactional relationship with God. It's a total heresy. Billy Graham appealed to middle class Southerners returning from the war and saw segregation as bad for business. Post-Graham evangelicals came in two camps: those repackaging the fallout of segregation (especially after forced bussing) and the outright con artist types like Benny Hill, Jim Bakker, the Osteen family, Pat Robertson, etc. Robertson was arguably the most moderate of the post-segregation brand. Very strange period for sure because low rent evangelical charades had total synergy with American greed of that period, even though its roots started by helping uprooted, illiterate Blacks during Reconstruction
@TheMadvillainy I highly doubt that Hinn's show airs in 200 countries. TBN gets carried in about 75. It's a complicated topic though. First, churches notoriously inflate their numbers by double and triple counting, which doesn't factor those who only attend on key holidays throughout the year. (Rodney Stark did revolutionary work on this topic.) Second, church attendance is very low in Europe. (Poland has a 40% reported Church attendance and that's the highest. Most countries there are closer to 10%. The Anglican Church makes up less than 2% of England's population.) Third, it's cultural. People don't convert for doctrinal reasons but because of kinship networks. I don't see secular Euros watching his programs other than a few thousand. Prosperity theology might appeal to low grade pagan Hindus out of India. I don't see it having cultural significance outside of Latin America (for complicated reasons), the Christian parts of Africa, India (which has a Christian minority), and Korea (complicated story but a lot of that has to do with Billy Graham). Maybe add in Australia and Canada. Prosperity theology is a post-Reconstruction phenomenon. For that reason, it's going to draw in Americans the most. Demographically, Prosperity Theology churches draw in the lowest income brackets too. Hinn and TBN are not at all transparent, so I'd be curious if he's really worth $60 million anyway. They're con artists. Part of the con is to sell how successful they are. Pentecostals make up less than 5% of the US population (on paper). It's fringe even within Christian circles. My town had tons of Pentecostal Churches. None of them ever seemed to be rolling in money. Actual church attendance across all of these groups was small. The most successful one had a few hundred, but it paled in comparison to several HUGE Baptist churches. It's all hard to say, but I doubt the numbers he's claiming. He might be worth $60 million. It's not impossible if he's getting 500,000 to donate (10% of his pool). I don't even see that at my church, which is super wealthy and historical. They're rich and some even Arnold Schwarzenegger rich, but no way is 10% of the parishioners donating at Mass.
Every time I saw Benny Hinn in the tv listings, I thought it said Benny Hill. The number of times I got disappointed at it being Benny Hinn... By the way... 30:05 - Did Hinn really use the "I didn't do it... but if I did it, here's how I would've done it" defense? What a guy.
Priests, nuns, monks and brothers who take vows of poverty don't pay taxes as long as they work for a church institution, minister performing ministerial services as an employee or a self-employed person, all of your earnings, including wages, offerings, and fees you receive for performing marriages, baptisms, funerals, etc., are subject to income tax.
Honestly I started listening to Jim years ago because of his rants, and I stayed for the wrestling. People get bent out of shape for Jim expressing opinions outside of wrestling on his own show, but nobody forced them to hit play.
Some of the best segments Jim has done have zero to do with wrestling. Him describing the car that landed on his fence a couple of years ago had me in tears.
lmfao "He would bop em on the head, and they would take a bump." This is hilarious. Forty five minutes of Corny on religion is just what I needed today.
I have maintained for a long time that professional wrestling, magicians, preaching, and politicking use the same skill set - work a crowd to get them to buy your product. I respect the wrestlers and magicians more, though, because they're just selling you an entertainment rather than lying to you about public policy or eternal damnation.
Even as a kid I always saw the Benny Hinn stuff as pure comical phony stuff. I used to think wrestling was real, but the Benny Hinn "healing" was clearly fake to me 🤣
Jim's Ernest Angley impression is spot on. Especially during Angley's time in the 70s and 80s. My local CBS station still airs the Ernest Angley hour on Sundays at 7.
I grew up in Boston in a Catholic family in a Catholic neighborhood and went to Catholic elementary and high schools, and didn't get to know a non-Catholic personally until I was in college. I honestly didn't know that evangelicals existed until we got cable when I was in college. I remember channel surfing and stumbling across the PTL Club and Jim and Tammyc Faye Bakker, and they just blew my tiny little parochial mind. No joke,no exaggeration - they could not have been stranger to me if they had beem Martiansperforming some bizarre alien ritual.
Brother you just shared my experience except i'm from KCK (right by Memorial Hall where Flair got the strap) and my fam was poor so i ran around with plenty of public school kids. I met my first evangelicals in person when i went to K-State.
As a child, we used to go to the church where TBN filmed a lot of their junk. I saw Benny Hinn live, and at the age of 8 I knew that organized religion was stupid.😆 I saw the Power Team too but at least they broke stuff.
I hope Jim has seen that Andre Antunes riff on Kenneth Copeland casting out Covid and calling on God to strike it down. That d-bag behind him is a riot.
Im 41 y/o when I was a child my brother and I used to get a kick out of Benny Hinn's antics. Coincidentally 30 plus years later my brother is now a minister. I'm still a heathen.
The only evangelist or preacher I've heard of was Jimmy Swaggert. Ozzy had a song about the controversy called "Miracle Man.". When Ozzy gets to laugh at religion, you know it's a good time.
As someone who lives in the Bible belt themselves, church buildings often are used over different congregations all the time. Someone wants to start a church, there is a building available, they use it, they don’t get enough people or money, and they leave. This happens all the time. in my area, a lot of these churches are independent and are not associated with any other organization. I guess it all depends on who actually owns the building.
Back in the day, the two things proper people should never speak about in public were politics and religion. However, that was back in the day, and I thoroughly enjoyed this segment.
@@lawrence142002 at least Marjoe tried to expose it, and people STILL went to "faith healers" and "psychic surgeons " years after. Guess there are suckers born every minute...
I worked for a guy some years ago that lived on an elongated driveway/dirt road that had his last name on the street sign at beginning, he had a 2 story dog house with heat, air & ceiling fans in it... I painted it inside & out & made $900 though... 🤣
Yes, a church can go out of business. Happens all the time. If a pastor steps down or a small church gets absorbed by a larger church, that happens a lot.
That's funny that they said Ernest Angley's way of talking was a big inspiration on the Brother Love character, because when they played the clips of him talking, that's literally the first thing I thought...."he sounds like Brother Love" LOL
Personal income is taxable, though state laws vary as to whether it is taxed or not. Illinois does not tax military pay and it was my state of residence, while I was in the military. So, I was only paying Federal tax. It depends on whether the preacher or priest is actually paid a salary or whether they are financially supported by the Church. If the church is covering the expenses, it is probably tax exempt. If they pay the minister a salary, than it is likely taxable, though not necessarily other allowances included in the position. If you think about it, the minister is often provided a home, by the parish/congregation, in which they live, rent free. Parishoners might bring them food, which reduces the amount they actually purchase, for themselves. You don't have a lot of expenses, so, salary made not be large, Also, at what level it is taxed may not be the same as other streams of income. As far as evangelists, if they are registered and recognized as a church, they are tax exempt in regards to the money they make via contributions. However, the use of those funds could bring them under scrutiny from the IRS and end their tax exempt status.
Billy Connolly did a bit about (I think it was) Benny Hinn (one of those faith healers) where he brought a deaf man up onto the stage and said that he was going to heal him. He violently shoved his fingers into the deaf man's ears and said "say Jesus!" to which the deaf man did yell "Jesus!"...in the same way one would should you stub your toe.
If it has not been answered yet, many churches over the last few decades have "rebranded" to change the image/conceptualization of church. So many crusty sounding names like "Podunk First Baptist" were rebranded as "River Church" or a new church opens just called "Mountain." They are each still affiliated with a denomination, that they do pay administrative fees to, or they could be independent and not do that.
“We have an agreement with the senator to keep things confidential-- I have nothing to hide, by the way!” Dude gave himself away with that runaway train of thought. 😂
Mega churches should have to pay taxes, those are profit centers. The church down the street from me (and most small neighborhood churches) actually still feeds the homeless and does charity work in the community and beyond. Taxing them would likely just take away from that charity. the pastor makes less than most uneducated people with a full time job.
I know this is completely different but hear me out. The only thing I hated was when they split up the Dudley's and they sent D-Von to Smackdown and and named him Reverend D-von. I'm not sure if that gimmick lasted long but thank God at Survivor Series 02, the Dudley's reunited.
Not a churchgoer anymore. I still pray, but, going to church is not on the agenda. When I was about 16 or 17, I was at a waffle house w/my friends at about 11 or 12am when the pastor from my old church walked in w/his "male friend" and he was in Full Drag. I'm talking makeup, wig, high heels, dress, all that. That pretty much sealed it for me that I had made the right decision to stop going to church.
