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Jim Cornette on The 2020 Wrestling Observer Newsletter Awards 

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From Episode 370 of the Jim Cornette Experience
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@rayb9321
@rayb9321 3 года назад
Idk Booker T has been Booker of the Year to me for like 25+ years running.
@cultofgaurav
@cultofgaurav 3 года назад
Tell me, you didn't just say that!
@naturallawman2965
@naturallawman2965 3 года назад
CAN YOU DIG IT??? SUCKAAAAA!
@Dubyahh
@Dubyahh 3 года назад
This is both awful and hilarious at the same time. Well done haha
@PaulieD1984
@PaulieD1984 3 года назад
Yeah but what does the 'T' stand for? My guess is Thumbpumper
@Marcelg13
@Marcelg13 3 года назад
👍
@JoeMercersWay
@JoeMercersWay 3 года назад
HBK, The Undertaker, Bret Hart and The Rock never won the wrestler of the year, but a bunch of Japanese wrestlers neither I or 95% of the people who've ever watched wrestling have even heard of won a decade's worth, says it all.
@dmcathis3739
@dmcathis3739 3 года назад
That says more about you than it does about the awards.
@henrygvidonas9573
@henrygvidonas9573 3 года назад
@@dmcathis3739 Actually no, it doesn't. Dave has become like some rock journalists in my youth who wrote endless articles in the late 70s about how some obscure garage rock or proto punk band was more important than Led Zeppelin or Pink Floyd.
@vanderful2397
@vanderful2397 3 года назад
@@henrygvidonas9573 It's not really that simple. Japan is a huge country & success there isn't much smaller than in the West (it could be bigger even). I'm boxing fan too & there are a lot incredible Japanese champions dominating the smaller weight divisions, but very few western fans know about them. In MMA, UFC is big in West, but One is equally powerful in the East. The problem is that this planet is just too big. There should be 2 wrestler of the year awards, so that we could avoid problems like that.
@MrKlotzi123
@MrKlotzi123 3 года назад
@@dmcathis3739,Your Point is invalid.
@jenisia3600
@jenisia3600 3 года назад
@@dmcathis3739 no it doesn't
@pwnedeful
@pwnedeful 3 года назад
feud of the year Jim cornette vs AEW
@jimmyandersson9358
@jimmyandersson9358 3 года назад
Isnt Cornette vs Russo the feud of the year every year?
@teecakes
@teecakes 3 года назад
@@jimmyandersson9358 Shitstain hasn't done anything relevant in 2020 so it defaults to Cornette vs AEW, maybe Corny vs Meltzer/Jericho for 2021
@twinewinder1
@twinewinder1 3 года назад
Its more like squash of the year
@markboliek6130
@markboliek6130 3 года назад
id vote for that
@pwnedeful
@pwnedeful 3 года назад
@@distantandvague Idk I can't take you seriously if you watch AEW, like have some self awareness towards the people you hang out with. Fat, balding, neckbeard, act like children, yeah thats a brand that is cool to support
@TheGarbyShow
@TheGarbyShow 3 года назад
Can Jim cornette create his own news letter with corny awards at the end of the year for people to vote on?
@BeyondDaX
@BeyondDaX 3 года назад
Eh, he is far too busy with his collectable business to do that stuff
@andrebryant5081
@andrebryant5081 3 года назад
Why so Charlotte Flair Reha wins most awards.
@BenGetItIn
@BenGetItIn 3 года назад
He doesn’t watch Smackdown, so he’s missing the best weekly show and the top heel in the business Roman Reigns.
@BeyondDaX
@BeyondDaX 3 года назад
@@BenGetItIn That's very debatable.
@BenGetItIn
@BenGetItIn 3 года назад
@@BeyondDaX I know, it’s my opinion.
@schizoreze
@schizoreze 3 года назад
That Young Bucks Book winning over the Andre Book is the single greatest insult to wrestling ever.
@johnmarcus317
@johnmarcus317 3 года назад
What promotion is that?
@jenisia3600
@jenisia3600 3 года назад
Facts
@CNYKnifeNerd
@CNYKnifeNerd 3 года назад
@@johnmarcus317 Literacy
@TheSwordofTruth412
@TheSwordofTruth412 3 года назад
@@johnmarcus317 minnow q
@Azgoon69
@Azgoon69 3 года назад
Walter vs Dragunov was only 5th best match, Being The Elite was 3rd best weelky show, Orange Cassidy was 2nd most charismatic, Excalibur best television announcer ... this is nuts
@stealthmode1303
@stealthmode1303 3 года назад
Meltzer has lost all credibility
@johns3491
@johns3491 3 года назад
If you take into the scope of all wrestling seen in 2020, it's actually accurate. But that's like saying which piece of dog shit tastes the least offensive to your taste buds.
@jenisia3600
@jenisia3600 3 года назад
A complete joke from a uncredible mark
@jenisia3600
@jenisia3600 3 года назад
@@sx9204 facts
@idav3176
@idav3176 3 года назад
@@stealthmode1303 no meltzers choices. Voted for.
@jacobgresham1274
@jacobgresham1274 3 года назад
Go Shiozaki, a man who carried Pro Wrestling NOAH on his back, leading it to be the most successful quality wise and business wise it’s been since Misawa died and Kobashi retired, doesn’t even win Japanese MVP. Naito is great, obviously, but Shiozaki more than deserved this award. Disgraceful
@Weirzy
@Weirzy 3 года назад
Hell yea my boy Rene Dupree is over there atm and says Go Shiozaki is top notch
@saschafeld1707
@saschafeld1707 3 года назад
That a thing I dont understand also. Great Matches and a great Worker but only NJPW seems to count.
@ilnonvivo
@ilnonvivo 3 года назад
@@saschafeld1707 I'm a HUGE Shiozaki and NOAH fan since 2005, but very few people watch NOAH nowadays compared to NJPW (you can say the same thing about AJPW). Sad but true, cause the product is so much better than NJPW, especially in 2020 with the awesome Shiozaki championship run.
@redhurricane24
@redhurricane24 3 года назад
I wouldn't know what happened to NOAH until you posted this. Is Marufuji still in there?
@saschafeld1707
@saschafeld1707 3 года назад
@@redhurricane24 Yes he is. And Mutoh won the belt a few days ago.
@XodusOnan
@XodusOnan 3 года назад
Should’ve just called the awards the AEW awards
@MikeJr9284
@MikeJr9284 3 года назад
I know Dave Meltzer is pro AEW, but Jesus Christ.
@Station_AI
@Station_AI 3 года назад
The awards were voted on by fans
@madisonbailey2564
@madisonbailey2564 3 года назад
@@Station_AI The people who follow Dave have the same taste as him
@VillaFan767
@VillaFan767 3 года назад
@@Station_AI Only AEW fans even read Dave Meltzer anymore. No one can take him seriously at this point.
@Station_AI
@Station_AI 3 года назад
@@VillaFan767 well Corny takes him seriously enough to do two podcasts a week talking about him, and all of the comments from people butthurt about another mans opinion on fake fighting
@lage1984
@lage1984 3 года назад
@@Station_AI im pretty sure meltzer would win best journalist at the aew awards
@basedelon
@basedelon 3 года назад
The 1990s' Wrestler of the Year was never once awarded to Shawn Michaels or Bret Hart. Madness
@MC-mf7zj
@MC-mf7zj 3 года назад
Well WWE was not once the top promotion or particular hot in the drawing metrics under them - that was New Japan post Hogan WWE upto the NWO. So it makes sense that they never won it.
@vanderful2397
@vanderful2397 3 года назад
@@MC-mf7zj Does it really matter? WWE was still a huge company. By that logic TNA, ROH, AEW & perhaps AAA & Japanese companies couldn't win awards today, because they aren't as big as WWE.
@MC-mf7zj
@MC-mf7zj 3 года назад
​@@vanderful2397 Perhaps just saying WWE being in bad shape at the time is a poor argument for the person specifically, but there is no real argument for them as far as WOTY is concerned when compared to the winners. Shawn Michaels was someone who'd help keep things okay but he wasn't a massive draw unlike people like Misawa, Kobashi, even Vader at the time. Hart was in Europe, so you could make an argument. Honestly the biggest ommison in the award's history is Hashimoto, who was a way bigger draw than both throughout the decade. So to say that they are shoo-ins when better candidates that didn't win is just baffling to me. Plus there is not many wrestlers in WWE that you could actually say are difference makers in their promotions unlike Moxley who is and Okada and Naito who won it in earlier years. I guess the case is relative to the person.
@TheeCoachg
@TheeCoachg 3 года назад
@@vanderful2397 Dont even waste your brain cells tryna figure these ppl’s logic out. One minute its about in ring ability then about drawing power then about how big the promotion is...they literally move the goal post until someone japanese or not employed by Vince McMahon fits the criteria. Insanity.
@ChristopherJames1993
@ChristopherJames1993 3 года назад
@@TheeCoachg in order to gauge drawing power it needs to be a big promotion because there's no point calling yourself a draw if you're getting 400 people in a field in Jersey. Hence why Austin is seen as one of the biggest draws ever because he basically sold out arenas on his own. Same as Cena did.
@McGomezAddams
@McGomezAddams 3 года назад
Can't believe Shawn Michaels never won wrestler of the year. Dave's always been a joke.
@mustaquimahmedtanbeer2437
@mustaquimahmedtanbeer2437 3 года назад
exactly what i thought.
@generallordjowbra8871
@generallordjowbra8871 3 года назад
I dont follow Dave and didnt know that, and that's insane. I can't believe anyone takes him seriously.
@BeyondDaX
@BeyondDaX 3 года назад
To be fair, Shawn Micheals is almost as bad as Hogan when it comes to politics. He did Vadar badly when he was in WWE and never recovered since and of course that whole 'clique' nonsense.
@RandalfElVikingo
@RandalfElVikingo 3 года назад
@@BeyondDaX Yet he is one of the best wrestlers of all time.
@BeyondDaX
@BeyondDaX 3 года назад
@@RandalfElVikingo He is one of the best seller of moves, I'll give you that much
@14traits
@14traits 3 года назад
They gave The Young Bucks the Best Book award, even though there were books about Andre The Giant and Ken Shamrock that were way better. Tells you all you need to know about the WOR awards.
@arnavbhagwat4232
@arnavbhagwat4232 3 года назад
Tim Hornbaker's Buddy Rogers biography should have won!
@marcosant98
@marcosant98 3 года назад
The winners are Dave’s likes. I’m not impressed.
@williammcmillan-johnstone3962
@williammcmillan-johnstone3962 3 года назад
Absolutely delusional its because no one in wwe will speak to him
@andrebryant5081
@andrebryant5081 3 года назад
So if you don't value Dave's opinion why talk about it?
@Hi-kq1vi
@Hi-kq1vi 3 года назад
@@arnavbhagwat4232 I think the problem is it came out in December,-so not many would have read it, plus unless you sub to Crowbar Press/listen to 605 etc you likely wouldn't even have heard about it. Really I would say it should be up for next years ballot due to its publication date.
@tommiller7902
@tommiller7902 3 года назад
The Slammy’s have more prestige than these awards.
@rl318
@rl318 3 года назад
These are the Slammy's, I'm shocked they did not have a ceremony on Dynamite.
@king425onlyforrest7
@king425onlyforrest7 3 года назад
Wow thats kinda a stretch 😆
@generallordjowbra8871
@generallordjowbra8871 3 года назад
How is anyone but Roman Reigns wrestler of the year? The Observer marks treat him like crap and he's absolute money.
@ssj7nick
@ssj7nick 3 года назад
To be fair he was out for over 1/4 of the year.
@Hi-kq1vi
@Hi-kq1vi 3 года назад
Because he for the most part treats wrestling very seriously & is a good working big man built around power spots, in a world of midgets who do flips & stupid comedy.
@Hellwolf36
@Hellwolf36 3 года назад
Roman was out for too long. WON and F4W are full of disgruntled ex-WWE marks and Meltzer is just a shill for AEW now.
@iliketrains3495
@iliketrains3495 3 года назад
@@ssj7nick Yep, and people complained that the 2014 Slammys were rigged just because Roman won when he was out for the last three months
@parsath_2584
@parsath_2584 3 года назад
He was out for half the hear But Drew McIntyre could have won it for sure.
@horrorstew3577
@horrorstew3577 3 года назад
It's official people... The Observer means nothing to the business
@voodooking9056
@voodooking9056 3 года назад
Liked this upload before the ads finished playing, before it even started. Knew I wouldn't be disappointed
@Dracula_sb
@Dracula_sb 3 года назад
Same!
@eddiemackalicious
@eddiemackalicious 3 года назад
"2003 Kenta Kobashi, 2004 Kenta Kobashi, 2005...Kenta Kobashi" was funny to me
@rl318
@rl318 3 года назад
The Observer was the underground smart mark version of Pro Wrestling Illustrated in the 80's and 90's. It was like Alternative music until it went mainstream and now it is following fads pretending to be alternative.
@Hellwolf36
@Hellwolf36 3 года назад
Kind of like what the Simpsons has become.
@TheeCoachg
@TheeCoachg 3 года назад
Its the old wrestling saying....”If everything is a swerve then nothing is a swerve,really”
@Ted_Bell
@Ted_Bell 3 года назад
The cult of Meltzer has ruined wrestling.
@BeyondDaX
@BeyondDaX 3 года назад
Pretty much
@Hi-kq1vi
@Hi-kq1vi 3 года назад
More Meltzer joining the cult of people who like this stuff, which has seriously contributed to the decline of wrestling the last decade plus.
@spidey2885
@spidey2885 3 года назад
Yes...as much as they say his subscribers vote on it but if they believe whatever the cult leader says then it’s exactly the same as him voting for it himself
@jenisia3600
@jenisia3600 3 года назад
Amen.
@jenisia3600
@jenisia3600 3 года назад
@@Hi-kq1vi facts
@85futureshock
@85futureshock 3 года назад
"You fooled them all didn't you Dave...” (Dave staring at photo of Kenny Olivier) “But not me" -Jim Cornette paraphrasing Dr. Sam Loomis from the TV Cut of Halloween.
@CarloisBuriedAlive
@CarloisBuriedAlive 3 года назад
I read this in Pleasence’s voice lol
@treehugger7976
@treehugger7976 3 года назад
"I met him thirty years ago"
@MirkoBalda
@MirkoBalda 3 года назад
Worst gimmick of the year (2020): The Fiend Best gimmick of the year (2019): The Fiend Ok
@trevorwright6395
@trevorwright6395 3 года назад
Ikr and stupid shit ever fucking orange Cassidy won the best gimmick a guy sticks his hands in his pockets.
@silviamarquesfankanal1463
@silviamarquesfankanal1463 3 года назад
@@trevorwright6395 Santino Marella won it twice. ^^
@Tun-Dar
@Tun-Dar 3 года назад
Meltzer is on AEW's payroll. Change my Mind.
@MrSpeed-lt8gr
@MrSpeed-lt8gr 3 года назад
You ain’t lying.
@tsaicho
@tsaicho 3 года назад
I'm going to attempt to change your mind about Meltzer being on AEW's payroll, but I will not change your mind that Tony Khan is potentially paying Meltzer. I doubt Meltzer is on AEW's payroll since that would way too easy to get busted and definitely destroy whatever little credibility Meltzer still has in claiming to be an journalist. The alternate theory you should consider is that Tony Khan might be paying Dave Meltzer indirectly by bulk subscribing to the hardcopies of the Wrestling Observer Newsletter. It does not seem too difficult to do so as long as the subscriber has lots of money: www.f4wonline.com/news/wrestling-observer-home-delivery-161156
@TomFoolery350
@TomFoolery350 3 года назад
I don't think they pay him, he's just a regular fanboys... Oh and of course friends with the bucks.
@andrebryant5081
@andrebryant5081 3 года назад
Or Dave fanbase enjoy AEW
@rosiegratz8377
@rosiegratz8377 3 года назад
Yeah, starting to look that way.
@brandoni241
@brandoni241 3 года назад
Well Tony's money to Dave was not wasted. He won an award!
@IamErik31
@IamErik31 3 года назад
2 actually lmao.
@MauricioSandoval-xc9ih
@MauricioSandoval-xc9ih 3 года назад
Dave Meltzer’s obsession with Japanese wrestling is almost plain nauseating if not extremely ANNOYING.
@Hellwolf36
@Hellwolf36 3 года назад
I am a fan of NJPW myself and even I know that it cannot draw as good in the US as it does Japan due to cultural differences, language barriers and presentation. I have to switch my brain to Japanese effectively to understand what goes on in NJPW compared to anything in the US. The smarks in AEW, WON and especially the Joshi simps are the ones who overhype that shit and think it will work outside the Japan/WON bubble. Why do you think Shida is the only one to survive the joshi picks of Omega and two factors being joshi simps and her ESL?
@jeffmac675
@jeffmac675 3 года назад
Having Matt Hardy appear on Dynamite to swear he didn't have a concussion and put over how AEW handled it is a promotional tactic. AEW "politicizing" COVID by calling WWE a sloppy shop while they themselves had their own cases that they kept to themselves - promotional tactic. With the various things Chris Jericho was involved with this year and the flexibility of the definition of the category - Chris Jericho's been involved in some disgusting promotional tactics.
@migby4022
@migby4022 3 года назад
Corny’s been a lifesaver for me during this pandemic
@RandalfElVikingo
@RandalfElVikingo 3 года назад
Cornette has always been in my toughest times since 2010 lol.
@tsaicho
@tsaicho 3 года назад
Dude, same here. I'm not into some of his more vulgar comments, but for the most part Cornette tries to at least come up with constructive criticism.
@TomFoolery350
@TomFoolery350 3 года назад
I honestly think he is the last good thing about modern wrestling, probably wouldn't watch/ follow it anymore without this podcast 😂
@heelturnsface
@heelturnsface 3 года назад
Meltzer is the absolute worst
@XxPhanieEmoxX
@XxPhanieEmoxX 3 года назад
Tony Khan winning the Booker of the Year is like Michael Scott winning the Dundie Award for the Best Boss.
@elreino88
@elreino88 3 года назад
So, The Rock doesn't get any awards in 1999 and 2000. Wow, what a shame.
@SpiralPoliFemboy
@SpiralPoliFemboy 3 года назад
Was there a most improved award in 1999? If so then Hardcore Holly should get it. He was always good in the ring but he made a huge turn around when he became "Hardcore Holly" and ended the JOB Squad and "Bombastic Bob" stuff. He was the resident tough as hell mid card workhorse from 1999 - 2004
@tommiller7902
@tommiller7902 3 года назад
Kingston vs Moxley for feud of the year over Orton Vs McIntyre? Orton Vs Edge? Reigns Vs Uso? Reigns Vs Owens?
@mohammadsharoof4835
@mohammadsharoof4835 3 года назад
My first thought cam in feud of the year was Reigns vs Uso bcz it was not scripted it felt real to me uncle dave is not chicken or egg he is a fox of aew
@andrebryant5081
@andrebryant5081 3 года назад
Because it's an opinion base award show. The day many of you ignore Dave the day his opinion die to you.
@shivnarayansharma6722
@shivnarayansharma6722 3 года назад
Orton vs MacIntyre was bad no fing storyline so yeah
@sukerAndre
@sukerAndre 3 года назад
Best Box Office Draw; khabib IS behind the Bucks. Thats a Joke.
@vedamonkar412
@vedamonkar412 3 года назад
SmackDown is behind BTE 😂😂😂 But honestly, box office draw= money, ratings, merch so it should be someone from wwe or ufc since they are the biggest 🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️
@AliHusnain522
@AliHusnain522 3 года назад
No way who on the street knows who the bucks are khabib is actually mainstream draw
@MirkoBalda
@MirkoBalda 3 года назад
@@vedamonkar412 no way 😂😂😂 the audacity of these people 😂😂
@jj3399
@jj3399 3 года назад
the bucks have anout 100,000 annoying fans
@sukerAndre
@sukerAndre 3 года назад
The crazy Thing IS Jon moxley Dean Ambrose Had His best Matches Not this Year maybe around 2014 or so. And i believe even Moxley Had would admit this
@Ratmann8436
@Ratmann8436 3 года назад
Brian: "Manami Toyota....." Jim: "Oh Good Lord."
@arnavbhagwat4232
@arnavbhagwat4232 3 года назад
I'm pissed off by the fact that The Bucks won the best book and not Tim Hornbaker for Master of the Ring, Buddy Rogers book
@TomFoolery350
@TomFoolery350 3 года назад
Well, he should named his finisher after Dave if he wants an award
@andrebryant5081
@andrebryant5081 3 года назад
Why are you piss that others have a different opinion from you?
@soumyadeepbanerjee964
@soumyadeepbanerjee964 3 года назад
@@andrebryant5081 Let me say this, the whole idea of "this is my opinion, so please leave me alone" (which is scarcely used for anything more than simply a safety-net) should definitely not hold true especially for something that is trying to be somewhat objective, pretty much on account of it's very nature, which is to recognize the best candidates in their respective fields by a major newsletter. There should be a modicum of objectivity that maybe defined on certain standards, objectivity is not the same as being "factual" and while complete objectivity is perhaps not achievable there should and can be a rigorous attempt to keep subjectivity at a minimum(without which essentially every academic work would have to predicate itself by saying "please leave me alone"). Above everything even if you do disagree with everything I said above, please explain as to why shouldn't a person have the right to be angry over the opinion of another person? Why are people angry over certain people being blatantly racist or sexist? Above all being equally accepting towards all opinions would never result in any discourse about a debatable topic. Thank you for reading this stupidly long comment.
@andrebryant5081
@andrebryant5081 3 года назад
@@soumyadeepbanerjee964 You value Dave's opinion this much while I didn't value your edited comment at all because your opinion doesn't matter to me fool!
@soumyadeepbanerjee964
@soumyadeepbanerjee964 3 года назад
@@andrebryant5081 I absolutely look like the fool here!
@kvpunk881
@kvpunk881 3 года назад
ROH deserves more credit, the pure division is amazing
@SharptonsRaceCard
@SharptonsRaceCard 3 года назад
I absolutely love the pure division, but then they turn around and do shit like having the Danhausen guy and other bingo hall fuckery. I'm trying to hang in there, but most weeks I find myself doing something else when RoH is aired
@josereyes1148
@josereyes1148 3 года назад
@@SharptonsRaceCard exactly. I was excited when I heard Jim talk about the Pure division. I watched some of it and liked it. Then I turned to ROH on a random show and they were right back to doing the vanilla midget bullshit. I gave up on it.
@Dredsed
@Dredsed 3 года назад
*Was. Nigel McGuinness MADE that division
@carlitossalazar375
@carlitossalazar375 3 года назад
ROH is a wonderful company, almost 70% of the current WWE main eventers are ex-ROH guys, but since the rise of AEW the poor ROH fall to the four or third place cause sadly they dont have money to compite against Khan.
@josereyes1148
@josereyes1148 3 года назад
@@carlitossalazar375 ROH is flippy bullshit.
@robinligman6443
@robinligman6443 3 года назад
I once heard Excalibur call Matt Sydal "Anthony Sydal" while fast forwarding through dark
@drsmainemusic
@drsmainemusic 3 года назад
There are two Sydal brothers in AEW... Easy enough mistake to make. Lol
@robinligman6443
@robinligman6443 3 года назад
Your right that would be fair if you know they did look different and if it wasn't before his brother was on their roster lol@@drsmainemusic
@bled83
@bled83 3 года назад
@@drsmainemusic Aye, he's called Mike!
@nohbuddy1
@nohbuddy1 3 года назад
Legit only like 1,200 people voted this year
@marcosant98
@marcosant98 3 года назад
That’s everything he’s got. 😂 35 years in the business and only 1,200 people pay him to watch, listen and read his opinion. That’s baaaaad!!!
@andrebryant5081
@andrebryant5081 3 года назад
@@marcosant98 Now factor in Dave never took a bump and his wrestling opinion makes him 6 figures a year. Any wrestlers not a millionaire or billionaire the last 35 years is baddd at their job!
@marcosant98
@marcosant98 3 года назад
@@andrebryant5081 well that’s a good point. He’s made his life giving his opinion and that makes him money. He never gained popularity going to a show. He made his own popularity. Thanks!
@nohbuddy1
@nohbuddy1 3 года назад
@@marcosant98 Plenty of people who are subscribed don't vote
@samuraijack0876
@samuraijack0876 3 года назад
How did Roman Reigns not win any award?. His heel run is currently the best thing in wrestling.
@stephentot5011
@stephentot5011 3 года назад
He's not in AEW that's why
@MrReganomics1
@MrReganomics1 3 года назад
Because Meltzer has an axe to grind against mainstream wrestling. Thus he is anointing this rag tag troupe of indy darlings
@Herbert_Rudolf
@Herbert_Rudolf 3 года назад
he should have won most improved of the year or best heel but he didnt
@celticluna1691
@celticluna1691 3 года назад
Dave meltzer is such a aew fan boy
@GoodFellasPizza08
@GoodFellasPizza08 3 года назад
Because he's not in aew lmao (dave meltzer is an aew fanboy)
@millerr9307
@millerr9307 3 года назад
How about the continual milking of Brodie Lee's death for most disgusting promotional tactic?
@savagereaper6291
@savagereaper6291 3 года назад
These awards show why wrestling is dying. This is ridiculous and mind blowing.
@Herbert_Rudolf
@Herbert_Rudolf 3 года назад
so true. but there were always trash even in the 80s. Hogan never won wrestler of hte year
@savagereaper6291
@savagereaper6291 3 года назад
@@Herbert_Rudolf Growing up in the 80s, I couldn't stand Hogan. Even as a kid I found him extremely corny. I know, I'm weird. I found him somewhat interesting when he turned heel.
@Herbert_Rudolf
@Herbert_Rudolf 3 года назад
@@savagereaper6291 thats ok but it doesn’t matter if you like him or hate him he still deserved atleast 1 wrestler of th year award in 1984 or 1987
@1.21JJWatts
@1.21JJWatts 3 года назад
How prestigious can these awards be if none of them have 1,200 people voting for the winner?
@pillboss1987
@pillboss1987 3 года назад
Here’s a disgusting promotional tactic that was missed: AEW using a dead wrestler’s 8 year old son on tv the week he died and has continued to use him still. That’s more disgusting to me than some bad acting by Seth Rollins and Rey Mysterio.
@silviamarquesfankanal1463
@silviamarquesfankanal1463 3 года назад
WWE's mass firing during the pandemic won that award. Not Rollins & Mysterio's jelly eye angle ...
@vanderful2397
@vanderful2397 3 года назад
That is a good point. What a supprise that wasn't on the list...
@shivnarayansharma6722
@shivnarayansharma6722 3 года назад
Yeah honoring a person is bad that's proved how much of a mark you are
@superstrat5826
@superstrat5826 3 года назад
Only like 1000 people vote lol. You can get a larger, more diverse sample from fucking twitter polls.
@smarkslowplay3512
@smarkslowplay3512 3 года назад
SURELY not manipulated by Dave. No sirree!
@iliketrains3495
@iliketrains3495 3 года назад
Don't. Just don't. Adam Blampied did that for a few Quizzlemanias and the results are nearly always shite
@fox9769
@fox9769 3 года назад
Lol according to Dave Meltzer the Young Bucks, Omega, Moxley and Cody Rhodes are more popular and bigger draws than Randy Orton, Edge, Miz, Drew Mcintyre, Kofi Kingston, Seth Rollins lol. I gotta get whatever crack he's on
@sirtoby4939
@sirtoby4939 3 года назад
Not only that. He has tricked himself into believing that these AEW clowns draw more money than Stipe Miocic, Israel Adessanya or Khabib Nurmagomedov. A cursory glance at the PPV numbers crushes that delusion into dust. Almost like Old Dave only brings up the UFC to spite the WWE....
@alangreenway6695
@alangreenway6695 3 года назад
Whoever is booking Walter in NXT UK should have won Booker of the year.
@CornerRoom_Thoughts
@CornerRoom_Thoughts 3 года назад
Shawn Michaels is in charge of UK, but I don't know if you could call him the "Booker" though.
@cameron3578
@cameron3578 3 года назад
@@CornerRoom_Thoughts it's Jim Smallman doing the actual booking, Michaels from my understanding just in the Vince/Triple H type role of approving things
@DatNaturalHerb
@DatNaturalHerb 3 года назад
Oh schnapps it’s here! Get your popcorns everyone!
@simobacktrouble
@simobacktrouble 3 года назад
I'm here for the comments 🤣
@rodycaz8984
@rodycaz8984 3 года назад
IMAGINE thinking Orange Cassidy is a better gimmick than The Fiend. HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!
@tsaicho
@tsaicho 3 года назад
Jim Cornette said it best. Orange Cassidy is the stand up comedian with only one joke. It works if he goes to different locations where no one's seen the joke. But once everyone's seen the joke on national TV, the joke got old really fast.
@TomFoolery350
@TomFoolery350 3 года назад
The booking of the Fiend was horrible but at least it's a real gimmick not some random guy doing nothing
@staalhard666
@staalhard666 3 года назад
@@TomFoolery350 It's not a gimmick. 10 years of buzzards and fireflies. Never went anywhere. It's 2021. Only edgy 14-year-olds getting bullied a school still care for this tacky Rob Zombie sh-t. It's a fat juggalo in a mask. 33 years old, never got past his Hot Topic phase. Facepaint fishnet Jeff Hardy is another good example. Another delusional idiot who thinks his dated act is cool .
@rodycaz8984
@rodycaz8984 3 года назад
@@staalhard666 LOL, edgy. Here's the thing: even if you think he sucks; he's still better than Orange Cassidy hahaha! If you think otherwise, then your opinion is stupid and can't be taken seriously.
@staalhard666
@staalhard666 3 года назад
@@rodycaz8984 Amazing argumentation. "mY oPiNiOn ! yOu sTuPid!"... followed by an upvote for yourself. I can see why you fall in the Fiend fanbase category.
@TheFriendlyWeirdo
@TheFriendlyWeirdo 3 года назад
SmackDown and MLW are my two favorite wrestling programs right now.
@CornerRoom_Thoughts
@CornerRoom_Thoughts 3 года назад
Smackdown (from what I heard) has gotten much better
@me-kf4tq
@me-kf4tq 3 года назад
Really Smack down? I could understand raw, but really? Smackdown?
@CornerRoom_Thoughts
@CornerRoom_Thoughts 3 года назад
@@me-kf4tq Smackdown is good right now. Raw is utter dog shit.
@TheIslandDivision
@TheIslandDivision 3 года назад
Bliss vs Orton is more of a feud than Mox & Eddie.
@jenisia3600
@jenisia3600 3 года назад
Sadly yes
@Ted_Bell
@Ted_Bell 3 года назад
Dave Meltzer publishes his opinion as fact.
@darrensummers5052
@darrensummers5052 7 месяцев назад
Watching this in 2024 is insane 😂
@manuelper
@manuelper 3 года назад
These awards winners just show how far pro wrestling has fallen. It's dead and buried.
@CaptainMonotone448
@CaptainMonotone448 3 года назад
Only if we take the newsletter, its author and its readers seriously, which has been the problem for years now
@AndyGrazianoNYC
@AndyGrazianoNYC 3 года назад
young bucks book - how do guys who've never done anything have a whole book to write about?
@Hellwolf36
@Hellwolf36 3 года назад
You just need a bunch of AEWtists and shove the book in people's faces and you are immediately a best seller nowadays.
@shivnarayansharma6722
@shivnarayansharma6722 3 года назад
Yeah even bad movies sometimes get huge numbers
@kevinsims2876
@kevinsims2876 3 года назад
Tony Khan as booker of the year, 😪😪 the "forbidden door" i need another sport to watch now,😪 this is sad. The only 2 major sports entertainment companies have flipping midgets and kidnappings every week.
@SAM-ru4vx
@SAM-ru4vx 3 года назад
Boxing and mma if you dont care about "story" and if you want story watch some foreign films.
@TheSportsfan35
@TheSportsfan35 3 года назад
@Kevin Sims, & that's the main problem with the business now, is that Today's fans or "audience" just accepts what Khan & Vince do on their respective shows instead of demanding more from them from a LOGICAL booking standpoint.
@Thebestoutthere
@Thebestoutthere 3 года назад
@@TheSportsfan35 “LOGICAL” booking? Vince booked an old lady giving birth to a hand and it had like 5 million+ viewers. It’s not about logical booking. Logical booking ain’t important as long as it’s entertaining to fans. Not just to you.
@kevinsims2876
@kevinsims2876 3 года назад
@@TheSportsfan35 its like they're all burned out from the bs they've become immune to it. We never did get an explanation on how 3 men can fit in a 2 seater helicopter
@TheSportsfan35
@TheSportsfan35 3 года назад
@@Thebestoutthere Have you seen the tv ratings lately?All 3 companies have done HORRIBLE tv ratings & that's because now they seem to book the talent as if their viewers are kids, idiots or idiotic kids.
@psychobluesfxt
@psychobluesfxt 3 года назад
Roman v Jey was a decent candidate for feud of the year. Ther ratings on SD were nearly Ruthless Aggression high for a bit during the height of that angle.
@HeelTurnTitan
@HeelTurnTitan Год назад
And we’re back to it…no complaints either 👍🏻
@dieselkilgore
@dieselkilgore 3 года назад
In one night Conor McGregor got 100 million and Jon Moxley got a bottle of Jack Daniel's and a hot dog. HAHAHAHA.
@Obelisk94
@Obelisk94 3 года назад
I kept bursting out laughing when Brian was counting down the winners of the wrestler of the year awards. In the words of Big Kevin Nash: "Abu Zago vs Napo Zango in the Korakuen Hall"
@bled83
@bled83 3 года назад
That was a 5 star match.
@Herbert_Rudolf
@Herbert_Rudolf 2 года назад
Honestly I didnt knew about many Japanese Wrestler before i looked at the Awards and the Five Star Matches but some of them are really good much better than anything in America
@JVvv-k4e
@JVvv-k4e Год назад
Great match
@maybachrob9475
@maybachrob9475 3 года назад
WWE don’t even acknowledge these awards but aew will
@markula_4040
@markula_4040 3 года назад
51 minutes! Oh boy, better go make some popcorn.
@jamesburns248
@jamesburns248 3 года назад
It's damn good, you'd better believe it! 😀🍿
@matthewsmith2308
@matthewsmith2308 3 года назад
Is Darby Allin the "I like turtles" all grown up? The kid was from Oregon I believe and Darby is from the Pacific northwest
@StarlightEater
@StarlightEater 3 года назад
DUDE!
@ricochristmon3863
@ricochristmon3863 3 года назад
This list of so called award winners is beyond atrocious.
@williamthomas5215
@williamthomas5215 3 года назад
That was the big complaint from any WWE fan. He hates WWE even when it’s good. The quality of match from 01-07 was very good with the right competitors and he wouldn’t give them their time of day because it wasn’t Japan.
@Awells89
@Awells89 3 года назад
Either Dave is on the payroll or he’s lost his damn mind.
@paliker00
@paliker00 3 года назад
The cheeseburger analogy is spot on.
@pierre-lucbrizard1327
@pierre-lucbrizard1327 3 года назад
Just in case there was any doubt 2020 was the worst year in history of wrestling. A man who can't time his commercial breaks right on pre-taped shows just won booker of the year. Hope Jim resigns his nominations.
@Treklosopher
@Treklosopher 3 года назад
The Young Bucks were entertaining...10 years ago. But their act has not evolved one bit since their time in PWG. They are not TV wrestlers. They look like crap. Bayley and Sasha were a better tag team in 2020 than the Bucks were.
@eugenewilliams3788
@eugenewilliams3788 3 года назад
Exactly they're only good in a context of an indie show that happens every 2 to 3 months week to week they do the same thing over and over and over no psychology just spots
@shivnarayansharma6722
@shivnarayansharma6722 3 года назад
Good joke when buck had a 6 star match against Kenny and page and a all time classic with ftr
@redhurricane24
@redhurricane24 3 года назад
Goddamn. Roman Reigns vs Jey Uso should've won Feud of the Year. There was actual character development.
@CornerRoom_Thoughts
@CornerRoom_Thoughts 3 года назад
Yeah really helped solidify Roman's heel turn AND rocketed Jey up the card and made him much more than a tag team guy.
@marcelmoreau2733
@marcelmoreau2733 3 года назад
No Bret Hart, no HBK, no Rock, as wrestler of year or outstanding wrestler?
@AlSween
@AlSween 3 года назад
Are they making money if they are clearly spending more than what is coming in?
@Station_AI
@Station_AI 3 года назад
Do you realize they just signed a contract with TNT worth 175 million?
@timwin8194
@timwin8194 3 года назад
I officially apologize for my generation of wrestling fans, I at one point couldn't tell wrestling from reality and there are many who still suffer.
@mr.mirchenstein6549
@mr.mirchenstein6549 3 года назад
Walter vs Ilja Dragonuv & Finn Balor vs Kyle Oriley were the 2 best matches this year in my opinion.
@gouthamks2021
@gouthamks2021 3 года назад
Randall vs edge too!!
@citizenstrife
@citizenstrife 3 года назад
10 minutes in: AEW winners 15 minutes in: AEW winners 20 minutes in: AEW winners 25 minutes in: AEW winners 30 minutes in: AEW winners I mean...was AEW the only organization in operation in 2020? What the fuck?
@SAM-ru4vx
@SAM-ru4vx 3 года назад
Kenny in triplemania Kenny at impact ppv Kenny vs moxley Omega vs king in ROH....okay maybe not but come on. Kenny is everywhere.
@shivnarayansharma6722
@shivnarayansharma6722 3 года назад
Wwe sucks that's why
@timslee0618
@timslee0618 3 года назад
Les Thatcher who does his own podcast on Dave's/Bryan's Wrestling Observer site mentioned he agrees with 99% of the things Jim Cornette says but he himself would word it more differently than Jim
@fernandoalvarado6084
@fernandoalvarado6084 3 года назад
Jon Moxley got a bottle of jack daniels and a hot dog 🌭 LMAO 😂
@DyeSportingNetwork
@DyeSportingNetwork 3 года назад
I cried laughing 😅🤣 when I heard that
@marknadratowski5728
@marknadratowski5728 3 года назад
I didn't know Ring of Honor was still around
@davidburke7777
@davidburke7777 3 года назад
Neither did they
@darmawangsa1216
@darmawangsa1216 3 года назад
I've got TWO WORDS for Uncle Dave... "CORRUPT AWARD !!!" ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
@fuscinula
@fuscinula 3 года назад
*6 stars if your comment was made by Omega or in the Tokyodome.
@ej55033233
@ej55033233 3 года назад
The last award discussed is just embarrassing.
@CarloisBuriedAlive
@CarloisBuriedAlive 3 года назад
Meltzer is not a good wrestling critic. A good historian, sure, but he critiques wrestling like it’s figure skating at the Olympics or something and there’s a LOT more to matches than just the moves - there’s the in-ring psychology, the storytelling, the booking, the selling, etc. He judges it almost exclusively on the technical side of things when he wants to and it’s never clear. A journalist also shouldn’t be so involved in certain organizations because it’s hard to ignore the fact that the WWE never paid him any attention while the other company has wrestlers who name moves after him. If AEW will give us anything, it’s exposing Meltzer for the ridiculous fraud that he’s always been, and also introducing the wrestling world to the tiny group of talented young wrestlers who will be wearing “Property of the WWE PC” within the next 3-5 years because this ALWAYS happens - WCW’s ignored midcard talent come to the WWE after a bunch of legends and older guys went to WCW, TNA’s home grown talent make a name for themselves in TNA and then eventually find themselves in WWE after the old timers and legends started populating TNA. But at least WCW and TNA had ratings at various points whereas AEW’s only two hours of television involving well known wrestling stars and a ton of advertising on the TNT and TBS networks is regularly competitive with the WWE’s sixth and seventh hour of weekly programming with their least popular roster. They’ve successfully used the old ECW “us against the world” cult like marketing to earn themselves a small but strong fan base but I think after a year and a half of false promises and pretty much the same old thing we’ve always seen mixed in with a lack of momentum for a lot of their promising young acts, the bloom is off the rose and people are starting to sober up. (But obviously AEW has the better catering.) WWE is the old husband that didn’t pay enough attention to them and they’re using AEW like the younger guy to make the husband jealous to inspire some kind of passion out of him, but the husband knows that they will always keep track of what he’s doing and the younger guy is bullsh*t, so a whole lot of nothing is going to happen and everybody is wasting their f*cking time.
@karanrawat835
@karanrawat835 3 года назад
Well said
@EviLiu
@EviLiu 3 года назад
Meltzer looks like Ruth Bader Ginsburg.
@ishoottheyscore8970
@ishoottheyscore8970 3 года назад
Ah, the perfect example of a feedback loop - The newsletter leans heavily towards a certain style making fans of other styles walk away, so the user feedback just endorses the WON's point of view, and then that reinforces theirs....
@ELPRES1DENTE45
@ELPRES1DENTE45 3 года назад
May as well rename it the "AEW Awards." 🙄😏😒
@dizzy1369
@dizzy1369 3 года назад
This is supposed to include all promotions in the categories, right?
@wesleymorris2699
@wesleymorris2699 3 года назад
Is he gasping for air with his tongue always sticking out like Gene Simmons? 😝
@Boman803
@Boman803 3 года назад
Yeah, a lot on the "Most disgusting promotional tactics" award list aren't really promotional tactics and some of them like Backlund as WWF Champion in 82 comes off as just petty.
@Takerfan-nr5bk
@Takerfan-nr5bk 3 года назад
You could've made Meltzer a gargoyle instead of a chicken in that picture LOL.
@Kalopsia666
@Kalopsia666 3 года назад
Walter vs Ilya getting 5th place for match of the year tells you everything you need to know about the Observer and it’s current readership
@cjkemp1982
@cjkemp1982 3 года назад
Didn’t see that signing coming honestly but hey Shaq vs Paul Wight 😂
@Will_kid_cortez
@Will_kid_cortez 3 года назад
And most will be like who? Lol
@bled83
@bled83 3 года назад
@@Will_kid_cortez Who da fuq is Shaq?
@PapaTaurean
@PapaTaurean 3 года назад
Looks like we've reached the Participation trophy Observer Awards. The Young Bucks and Kenny Olivier?? Really?? Dafuq Dave Meltzer?
@TheGarbyShow
@TheGarbyShow 3 года назад
48:03 the pure disdain in Jim’s voice 😂😂
@classicviolence
@classicviolence 3 года назад
Best booker should go to ROH's team, what a turnaround. And all without any mainstream publicity from Corny or any of the talking heads. The era of the observer and people thinking it's some all mighty rag is over peeps.
@purplemask4204
@purplemask4204 3 года назад
The Disgusting Promotional tactic one features hardly any ‘promotional tactics’
@a.r.s978
@a.r.s978 3 года назад
Smackdown made some sense
@theunknown7441
@theunknown7441 3 года назад
Pure bonkers booker of the year makes me laugh 😂
@angelyaluhhhh9130
@angelyaluhhhh9130 3 года назад
Can’t believe a guy who thinks Indy wrestling and gymnastics is better than any Shawn Michaels vs Undetaker or Mankind vs Undertaker hiac is making these “awards” 🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️ Meltzer is so biased
@Station_AI
@Station_AI 3 года назад
There is better wrestling than WWE, hard to believe I know
@jcaceres516
@jcaceres516 3 года назад
I didnt know those matches took place in 2020🤔
@angelyaluhhhh9130
@angelyaluhhhh9130 3 года назад
@@jcaceres516 better than the matches AEW booked in 2020
@angelyaluhhhh9130
@angelyaluhhhh9130 2 года назад
@@Station_AI nobody watches Japan or bingo hall matches unless your a mark with no life or girlfriend
@Weirzy
@Weirzy 3 года назад
I know Jim doesn't like watching Japanese wrestling but damn I wish he'd sit down and watch one show and give his thoughts
@andrewf4623
@andrewf4623 3 года назад
40:07 Corny’s reaction to finding out who won announcer of the year 🤣🤣😂
@TheeCoachg
@TheeCoachg 3 года назад
I fucking hollered at that part. When Corny does that rotten cackle,it kills me 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@jasonwoot5199
@jasonwoot5199 3 года назад
WWE has had some great ppv, especially in a situation the pandemic has put them in, especially with the no crowds. NXT Take overs always been the fan favourites. Re-watch last year mania where only was a dark ring and you hear the performers grunting, moaning and talking to each other. The thunder dome may be a distraction for some, but least it adds some atmosphere.
@jamirimaj6880
@jamirimaj6880 3 года назад
Wrestling Fans should set up their own awards to really gauge what's going on in wrestling nowadays
@Mynameismvd
@Mynameismvd 3 года назад
Damn you Corny, you bluegrass-masterpiece of unprecedented fuckery, I adore you. 👏
@JasonTigno
@JasonTigno 3 года назад
Been looking forward to this!
@stevenolsen5418
@stevenolsen5418 3 года назад
This years oscars, I mean Dave’s...Jim you kill me, I love this fuckin show it’s great,
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