Jim Cornette on The Modern Hysterical Smart Fans 

AEW fans actually think they’re at war

The irony: saying Punk and Cornette are neo-conservatives because they don't like the Bucks when the Bucks are evangelicals who are legitimate neo-conservatives.

It talks about rejecting the Elite like it’s rejecting Civil Rights.😂

Tony destroyed AEW. And the bucks, Kenny, hangman, and Perry helped.

The biggest problem isn’t necessarily the high flying moves, it’s the amount of them and the choreography all the time. It exposes the business and basically validates the “wrestling isn’t real” trope.

AEW is in the toilet. It was never and will never be competition to WWE. Face it, AEW marks. Truth

I had a feeling that AEW's downfall would still be blamed on Punk after he left

When "neo-conservative" came up, Jim immediately thought A.I. wrote it.

Seems like a lot of people weren't given the "It's okay when other people don't like what you like" talk from their parents.

AJ Styles did flips. But he also can do great promos, and is an intriguing character/persona. He has been booked good too. Most of the time It’s not about flips/gymnastics Most these guys are just boring and not interesting at all

The number of supposed smart fans who think CM Punk is somehow a conservative while ignoring Jericho and the Bucks’ actual right-wing views is alarmingly high.

AEW has literally combined the indie and Japanese wrestling fans, and god both are crazy. Dave Meltzer is the perfect example.

The "neoconservative" part of that article was the greatest thing ever written. CM Punk is now responsible for invading Iraq and helping usher through the Patriot Act. A true dyed in the wool neocon that would make Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz proud.

Jim Cornette is still going strong all these decades later!

“External innocence” 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Modern smarks are why major wrestling companies should never do the following: 1. Cowtow to the PC police. The smarks don't actually pay to see shows, nor do they buy the PPVs, they just parrot Meltzer's BS. 2. Never sign indie darlings. They never get over, and they don't draw in the US.

its because of the internet. unfortunately, everyone having access to information didn't lead to more intelligence it lead to more douchebags screeching behind their phone screens

AEW having Matt Hardy take a bump off a scissor lift onto concrete and nearly crack his skull open on camera, and allowing him to continue the match is what "stole AEW's external innocence" for me.

Wrestling fans on Twitter are part of what’s wrong with wrestling today. I blame the dirtsheets for that like Dave Meltzer and Sean Ross Sap.

I’ve said it before. A large percentage of wrestling fans are the reason it’s not as popular as it was. They have got the worst case of main character syndrome of any industry.

It's funny how they can't just accept the wrestling is no good and the show is bad.

Didn't the boss with no balls have an employee fire Punk?

"Punk replaced optimism with drama" Ask Cody why he left. Do it.

I can’t wait to hear Jim tear apart Jericho after his Stephen p New tweet lol. God Jericho can’t handle not being the center of attention even at 65 years old.

Jim was spot on about the AI-sounding writing.

In a way I'm glad the article was written. Because it validates what a lot of people have thought, which is they hated Punk from the beginning because they never thought he fit into AEW. To them the Bucks really are just some "good Christian boys making some noise". And in comes this outspoken, fuck authority, atheist to mess everything up. A lot of people thought this was what was going on and an article like this validates it. They REALLY ARE THAT CRAZY.

AEW treats all of their wrestlers like they're the ultimate warrior. Except the difference is the ultimate warrior could draw.

Mass Hypnosis is the only constant in the AEW faithful.

So...AEW was the worker's paradise and Punk tried to introduce capitalism?

If anyone thinks aew is in a good spot then they’re delusional

From the moment they branded themselves as being all inclusive, I knew this would be the bunch they'd attract. That's not the issue but, those're the bunch who's identity lie within everything but themselves -- tribal and unable to stand criticism.

I'm sure they look like David Bixenspan and Conrad from Bischoff's podcast.

"OK, Boomer," says fewer and fewer folks in light of how things have shaped up.

Socialmedia ruined the internet and fandom.

The iwc has turned into the most self entitled, unbearable entity out there it’s made multiple celebrities that liked something and made them never want to say the word wrestle again especially female it’s just ridiculous

Neo Conservatism does not = Republican or conservative. Most of you using that term clearly have zero clue what it means.

CM Punk is very likely a liberal and Jim is a proud Democrat. And the Bucks are proud Evangelicals. In wrestling world I would agree Punk and Jim and Conservative and Bucks are Liberal, but US Politics, polar opposite. Strange, isn't it?

One type of annoying and cringy fans are the ones who say so and so should win the rumble or that championship or whatever because they "deserve" it. Why do they even care about that? Wrestling wasn't created to reward guys for working hard, it was created to entertain. Most of us fans want to be entertained and want to see the most entertaining guys be pushed, not whoever "deserves" it.. Also, if whoever "deserves" it was how they decided who wins the championship, then every jobber would eventually win it.

I think the smart mark wrestling fans are upset because they are seeing that the indie/hardcore/hard style wrestling that they love so much, isn’t as popular as they said it was.

No heels or babyfaces, no holds or classic wrestling moves, no authority or rules, no story or build up, and no common sense or logic, you get 5 stars and booker of the year. Nice job Dave.

We have a hysterical Chris Jericho this blessed Christmas day!! 😂😂 Impatiently waiting for Jim and Brian to talk about that now

What makes this article funny is that they are calling Cornette conservative. I guess if you are talking about wrestling theology. AEW fans are like the TNA fans of 2008. Insufferable.

Can't wait for Bryan Danielson giving Chris Jericho a big Xmas present later on courtesy of a fine 💰

I think if you are being fair you can say because Punk did the things he did he upset the locker room. It made the people who disliked the Elite even more angry or dislike those guys more. I would bet at least 30% of the locker room would have been happy to get the VIP's out of the company. But instead they lost CM Punk. How many people are going to be happy to see Perry when he gets back?

We can all agree that the hardcore smart mark fans are the worse thing about Wrestling and kinda keeps casuals away especially when it’s mainly Hardcores supporting Wrestling currently

One thing is crystal clear here… this author has been so upset by Corny’s criticisms of Matt & Nick, that he completely failed to actually listen to what those critiques were. Of course he doesn’t like their choreographed gymnastics. If you were a fan of pro wrestling pre 2000, you’d understand how ridiculous it looks. But his main issue, just like he says in this clip, was always how they (& Page, & Omega, & their high school clique) conducted themselves, specifically off camera. And ironically, there’s nothing that illustrates today’s “neo-conservatism” more than being really upset about something you are unable to correctly specify or define. I understand “today’s smart fans,” are overwhelmingly young, so it would be understandable if this piece of advice was something they hadn’t heard before… Nevertheless, it’s something they’d (especially said author) would be wise to take note of - Talk less…Listen more… that way you won’t have to taste your foot quite so much.

Everyone from Ol Uncle Dave to Ol King Khan to the Elite are attached like the human centipede lol... 🤣

Let’s be honest they were already exposed as a minor league company before the All Out Scrum and Wembley

(7:34) So basically Corny and Weasel are the McDonald Bros. and Dave is Ray Kroc.

The biggest problem I have (I run a wrestling channel) in dealing with AEW fans because I watch NXT, WWE, & AEW with some TNA & others mixed in is that the AEW fans are BY FAR the most casual of them all & lack any knowledge. This idea that they are the smartest or smarks is dead wrong. They lack even the basis of understanding of the business. I say this as someone who wrestled for 4 years and have been watching since 1983. Yet I have to listen to people who started in 2012 tell ME how things work who never spent a minute in the ring, & never saw Snuka off the cage.

They gave us a bate and switch! "Sports based" remember? And what we got instead, is lazy sports entertainment by a bunch of wannabees who would have never been qualified to be actual Pro Wrestlers in the past. Punk was not the problem. But in order to be victims they need a boogey man! It is hard to except that Tony Khan knows nothing, but he is just like them! An indy mark with a billionare dad. Only now he has gotten to a point where he does not know what to do. All the suprizes or new belts won't save him. People don't respect Tony Khan because of Tony Khan! No one to blame but himself! His arrogance is off the charts! He actually thinks he is a good booker and sees him self at the level of the greats like Bill Watts, Jim Crocket, Verne Gane, Paul Heyman and others. And the only people telling him the truth are those who he considers enemies for questioning his judgement! His real enemies are closer to him and tell him everything he wants to hear! Those parasites are making out like bandits and they will bleed his dad dry!

Merry Christmas to those who celebrate

This is classic flipping the script by cellar dwellers who cannot handle that not everyone loves what they love, 100%.

These kind of fans ignored the problems backstage when it came to Punk. They ignored the problems backstage when it came to Cody and Brandi. They the problems backstage when it came to Big Swole. They can try to dislike and discredit all of these people until they are blue in the face but the one person that is most damning to their dismissals is how they ignore that Joey Janela has been saying the exact same thing about the problems backstage as Punk, the Rhodes and Big Swole ever since he left. And he is the literal definition of indie darling that they are trying to paint the Elite as.

Somebody on another post used the Sunken Cost Fallacy to describe AEW fans, and it fits really well. AEW fans have invested so much emotionally into this product that they won't let them see what everyone else sees, which is that this company is a fucking clown car.

These kinds of fans are trash and why wrestling is seen as a joke by most people.

The kid who wrote that rubbish needs to go back to their university's library and focus more on their Social Studies degree they'll do nothing with...

If the Bucks wouldn't do some many flips, they'd be better people?!?! They're jerks. People don't have to like jerks.

This channel has the best artwork of any RU-vid channel, wrestling or otherwise. People say the name Travis and Travis I just want to let you know, Paul Levesque needs to hire you for the WWF.

When Brian last does his mark voice 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Jericho has officially turned into ric flair. It’s a joke to watch them wrestle at this age

I wonder who wrote that diatribe. All of the AEW tribalists I interact with can't stand a post with more than one sentence, let alone multisyllabic words.

To be fair, Punk and Cornette are conservative wrestling fans. They want to conserve the old style of wrestling. Of course they didn’t mean it that way, but…

This article proves mental illness is a very serious, and needs to be addressed!

Is it wrong that i still don't know which Buck is Nick and which one is Matt?

This has to be a younger person who doesn’t fully understand the term “neoconservative ideology” It’s mostly boomers that are defined by that term. Liberal has been neoconservative for 30 years

Politics is bollocks as it is as they're all pulling the same way whilst making you think you have a choice but to bring it into wrestling so that shit wrestlers have an out is ridiculous

I supported the indie wrestling scene for years with my money. I went and saw all the guys who are now top stars everywhere. Guys like Punk, Joe, AJ, Danielson, Rollins and such. Its funny, but if there's anyone to really blame for the death of the indies its Tony Khan, because he took that booking style and ran it directly into the ground in record time and gave guys who didn't deserve backstage power too much power. There's a shelf life to anything, even at ROH's peak Gabe Sapolsky lost it, by having matches end after 21 "Super Moves" and then a small package pinfall. Tony learned nothing from watching that stuff. To equate Jim and Punk with Right Wing ideology is another example of these fans looking for boogeymen to band together against because the product they love is dogshit. The Bucks were/are Obama birthers, do these clowns know that? Maybe they should spend more time watching their favorite female "Wrestling Journalist" stream a video game in a bikini while spending time with thier "Waifu" pillows...

A smart man like Jim, definitely knows both party's in politics is controlled by the same masters..we know its his "character " for podcast

This thumbnail is an all-timer

The rating system was smart back in the 80s when you had to slog through hours of VHS footage just to find one compelling match. It helped you track down better cards or make a comp of enjoyable stuff. That was useful. Now it’s been weaponized- ironically now that it’s utterly redundant.

People like this are why I stopped telling people I watch wrestling.

I don’t even watch wrestling. I just listen to Cornette.

According to Meltzer, the highest household income and education level among wrestling fans are the Rampage audience. Like you have to be some sort to genius to enjoy jobber squashes and C-list talent.

Ever heard the expression garbage in, garbage out? The same applies to these marks. If you only view garbage wrestling, your mentality towards wrestling will be garbage.

OH Jim, you really need to get out more. Liberals would consider you a "conservative", because of some of your comments, your feeling towards women's wrestling and many more. Things have really changed, everybody crazy and no group has the edge on crazy.

Tony Khan man the worst owner in the history of sports.

I also identify as a Neo-Corn

Vince Russo (bad writers/bookers), bad actors & botch kings/queens: We will make wrestling unbearable to watch/follow! "Smart" Wrestling Fans: Hold our beers.

The author DOES know that the Bucks are hardcore conservatives? Right? RIGHT?

war never changes

that post/article is the kind of stuff you will get from Bleacher Report

I don't even know why smart fans watch the show. They just spend the entire thing nit picking and finding their own individual way to shit all over it. Take Goldberg in the 90's. Goldberg was a big jacked up badass looking dude with a great entrance who beat the shit out of everyone in two minutes and then left. But a smart fan would say he's just a "body guy" who "cant work" and is "too stiff" and "doesn't sell" and isn't capable of "telling stories in the ring." 🤦‍♂Honestly those dorks just need to turn their brain off and just enjoy the god damn show 😂

Since when did CM Punk ever complain about The Young Bucks doing too many flips? I think he said something like "Stop giving these idiots in front of me rumors. If it's not you then I'm sorry but if you have problem come to my locker room."

Look at those 4 Kenny Omega fans in the picture

Also, wouldn’t that be “internal innocence” since they let him IN?

Let us hope nobody ever makes a movie on the Young Bucks.

What's Stephen P New' number? I'm suing Cornette and Travis for drawing my likeness! 😆

Conrad Thompson

If it wasn't for Jim I would've never realised how truly terrible AEW is. I'd still be a AEW mark now. I'm not anymore so thank you for that Corny 😁

So technically I was right when I make fun of the bipolar fan saying “He should be praising AEW/Tony like I do on a daily basis” when they can’t take any criticism of their precious AEW

Buzzwords as fillers to make no point. They use "buzzwords" thinking it makes them look, feel smart while trying to sound correct. I see this all the time outside of wrestling. Nothing new, nothing to see. Just laugh at another delusional person that thinks they know everything. The sad part is, they crazies actually believe that horse shit. One day they will open there eyes to the truth, when they do, I ask all of you to welcome them with open arms, because after living in this kind of sadness they'll need it... Once they see the light.

IE: His core audience 😂

6:31 I have to say the smart fans are definitely not helping wrestling with the BS ideology they subscribe to.

Lmao

Remember when the high-flying style was awe-inspiring in wrestling because it was something that would be done by only some of the best in the business and only when it was needed in a match instead of random-ass house shows?

The AEW fan base is full of Discord mods

Jim and Brian seem to not realize that AEW has been positioning itself as "the progressive option" since day 1. The underdog startup fighting against the overbearing corporate WWE. Pushing trans wrestlers and the women's division Embodying "modern" as opposed to "old"

If not liking the Bucks makes you neo-conservative call me George Dubya Cheney and give me all your oil 😅 What gave it away? Was it Punk coming to the ring wearing pro choice t-shirts or Cornette trashing Trump constantly?

I watched wrestling back in the 80's and early 90's and loved it. Recently I saw some wrestling in tv at a restaurant and actively thought "this is just a choreographed acrobatics show". No believability whatsoever.