Jim Cornette on USA Network's 1997 Focus Groups On WWE 

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@@ryanstrong1167 I said “funniest thing I’ve today”, not “funniest thing I’ve heard ever in my life”.

I actually remember WTBS doing a promo for that match on the WCW Sunday night show in the early 90s and making fun of the idea of "Gilbert vs Sullivan"---and playing the Gilbert and Sullivan music for the promo and making them dance! I guess that went off without a hitch, unless that was one of the many times they weren't pre-empted by Atlanta Braves baseball!!

It's all about duty ... Or should that be doodie 🤔💩

I wrote my essay back home and he wrote me back.

$200 to send a whale to the moon!

When Corny say Caca pops me all the time.

Doing the jobs American wrestlers refuse to do

Might be #1....the stuff he remembers is pretty amazing

@@TK-mf2fr And if he doesn't remember he's probably got some paperwork handy to remind him, he says he's saved everything since he was a ringside photographer in high school. Dude must have a room full of file cabinets or something.

@@Cruising_On_Lake_Havasoma exactly! He is a wealth of wrestling knowledge...it's very entertaining

The reason to which to listen to him. Nothing more, nothing else

He is the 1% only. Nobody eise. Jim is 1%

I’ve been following the Reliving the War series on Wrestling Bios as well and was thinking the same. But it’s also interesting that once WCW went out of business that Vince went right back to the same boring shit that people in the 90s complained about

looks like AEW every week. They hotshot everything and do too much every match has an afterbirth or pre match mayhem even with the nobodies

Ive watched every Reliving the War . Good stuff . I watched most as it happened but its super cool to watch those re caps as ive forgot a bunch !

And also, you should win things by watching!

"You kids don't know what you want. That's why you're kids, because you're stupid."

Literally just Evangelion

I was 10 did the same thing cept I went with WWE eventually when stone cold was STONE COLD!!!!! Goldberg was fun for stupid kids like me but when they beat him I was done with wcw. That and the finger poke of doom.

@@gregweisal5542 I agree even as a kid I could see the stink of Russo all over WCW , Goldberg was super over then it just abruptly ended once you could see he only knew 3 moves. You cant have squash matches forever. Also the fumbling of Sting was a huge let down. But that being said 97-98 was such a great time for wrestling

I watched WCW mostly because of Sting,growing up in the south,and watching Nwa/WCW as a kid

Sting never should have joined the wolfpack. Yes I had a red and black sting action figure but really sting should have always been the lone wolf pun intended. Him joining nwo anything was stupid. Don't get me started on Bret Hart in wcw. Talk about wasted opportunity

@@gregweisal5542 WCW was a disaster by that point honestly though.Sting looked so out of place.But yeah I agree,it didn't last long though and he was back to the loner Sting routine.Jim Cornette said you have to be crazy to get into wrestling,I'm starting to believe him honestly.These wrestlers are either grifters or not wrapped too tight.Still love the Stinger though.I met him once in Greenville South Carolina and I was nervous as hell.

Do you have any other examples?

It ended up being the best thing for Sean Michaels as well. He got sober, found Jesus, he mended a lot of past relationships, and he came back to a monster run that made his previous run better in hindsight. We all laugh at “lost his smile” but that really was as close as you can get to divine intervention

@@bricemckeel255 “people seem to find god when no one else will talk to them” a quote from Jim himself. If Shawn really turned his life around thanks to god you think he would have let McMahon turn it into an angle?? Shawn’s a hypocrite he’s just learned to keep his mouth shut

@@alexello1189 exactly and it worked . I get hell online for not "letting old stuff go" like this dude didn't kill my favorite wrestler as a kids (Vader) career

CM Punk and The Elite can learn a thing or two

Like most wrestling.. watered down versions of the past

I would say that group was the 4th best version of the Horseman, if you count every single change as a new version. For me, the 97 version was bested by the original, Ole out and Luger in, Luger out and Wyndham in.

I always kinda liked Benoit as a horseman.

I thought he fit well with Anderson.

Facts!

The USA Network at that time was not exactly a great Network to broadcast from. They would cancel shows from Monday Night Raw for tennis and dog shows. Then by the early 2000s they were happy that the WWF left for tnn. Then to not only later on beg them to come back. The crazy thing is during the Monday night Wars raw was only 2 hours. But when they had no competition to battle against, no Monday night wars, then they want to give them 3 hours, for what?

It definitely created a new generation of wrestling fans lmao, when it got bad a lot of them just stopped watching

It created fair weather fans

@@orangemaniabrother2232 Lmao odd complaint that time period didn't create absolute marks that would watch the product no matter what because they have nothing else in life

@@pmfg11 Exactly. WCW and the NWO created a ton of new wrestling fans out of thin air. When it got dumb, they abandoned the product overnight. I know this for a fact because I turned about 10 of my friends into fans for a few years.

@@pmfg11 that period attracted fans that would never have bothered with it in the first place who then left it within a year or 2 or stuck with it but complain all the time cos it's not like the era they got in to it which was an anomaly anyway. I thought that at the time, what happened happened, and I think that now. I wasn't super in to the attitude era, it felt like tv for casuals

reb be tune u y n

Wcw imo was far superior in the ring. At least half the card produced non stop 4 to 5 star matches.

@@drunkensailor112 Not from 1998-2001

In ring? Better main events: WWF Better undercard: WCW Winner: WCW The cruiserweights and mid carders like Guerrero, Mysterio, Benoit, Hennig, Malenko, Jericho just run away with it. But main events at wwf with Bret, Shawn, prime taker, Foley regularly put on incredible matches.

This, a hundred times this. I haven't even started listening and I'm already laughing after realising what's going on here.

Yeah, men usually struggle with what women find attractive

@@mckali9999 Power. Whatever way it is manifested, women are statistically proven to overwhelmingly be attracted to power. Whether that's great looks that make other men look worse next to a guy, muscles and strength, confidence, money, wit, charm or whatever alternate manifestation, women are attracted to power.

@@tsb3208 Couldn't have said it better

OK , but how much money do you maje wirh wonen. The teenage girls back then loved Bret in pink, and you could sell them stuff.

@@herzkine Bret was so masculine he made pink manly and Canada cool! Part of the whole point of his feud with HBK was that Shaun came across as the spoiled Kliq pretty boy and contrasted with Bret so much.

Correct

Antimark?

Yeah the free tv match with Punk and Moxley had me cringe. Reminds me of the same hot shotting concept WCW did with Hogan vs Goldberg on Nitro. The only way I can see this justified is if something big happens like a returning MJF getting involved somehow

Punk vs Mox will end in shenanigans. You're still gonna see it at the ppv.

Hotshots Mox/Punk on free TV. And Omega returns randomly on free TV. And this dude was Booker of the Year? You save that for a PPV. Or at least a big Dynamite special where the matches are HYPED. Oh and not have Omega return in a Six Man match lol. What in the actual hell?

Maybe he'll call Kenny Twinkletoes the Mummy now.

@@erikstorm8935 Kenny came back in the six man match because it's a tournament. He needs to be there so the Elite can become the trios champs. What if instead they had Brandon for the opening rounds, but some heels, maybe Adam Cole's group, reinjure Brandon's face, causing the team to be down a member for the last match. The Bucks want to replace him but the other finalist team calls bullshit. It's against the rules. Something happens... Balding Buck needs to beat one member of the other team in some sort of gimmick match to earn the right to change their team in the finals. Buck gets "injured" in this match, but finally does come out on top. The Bucks get Hangman to finally rejoin them, but Hangman gets jumped backstage right before the finals match of the trios tournament. The Bucks are really pissed but go into the finals match 2 on 3, handicap. FINALLY, when the Bucks are really down in the match the other team goes to cheat, with a chair or weapon of some sorts, when suddenly someone jumps out of the crowd and rips the chai out of their hand. He's wearing a Lucha Bros match or something so it's not obvious who he is immediately, but he hits the guy with the weapon he took and then puts him up on his shoulders and does the One Winged Angel.. oh shit... it's Kenny Omega isn't it? He rips off his mask and the crowd goes nuts. Kenny Omega is back and he's the Buck's new partner, and this all happened at the big PPV! Or you could just have him come back at the start since it's more fair for the tournament.

AOL must have hated wrestling that much that they wanted it to die, even though WCW was still the highest rated Turner program in the 90s and 2000. Honestly, it may have given wrestling another chance at long term life, but the indie wrestling would have still made its way into both companies to the semi-detriment of it.

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He's gonna shit all over it and rightfully so it was an AWFUL introduction.

Inquiring minds want to know: did he twinkle his toes more than usual? xD

@@MattKeller Another example of hotshot booking. They should have saved his return for a PPV. Or at least one of those Dynamite specials where its a big one on one match. Instead he was booked in a random six man. And they're not even running head to head with NXT anymore lol.

@@erikstorm8935 bucks handed the ring announcer a piece of paper with the worst announcement in history written on it, followed by a weird entrance with nakazawa and don callis. Don then joined commentary and annoyed everyone for the rest of the show

@@erikstorm8935 I told everyone this week they should have hyped it instead of pretending it's a surprise because ratings just came out and it went down a little since last week.

Too many moves reminded me of the bit in Amadeus where Emperor Joseph II goes to see one of Mozart's opera and praises it but says it has "too many notes" and Mozart is baffled by this.

@King Crab exactly that is really well put. A good wrestler is able to tell a story obviously through promos but most importantly in the ring. If they can’t convey a story, a struggle and a triumph or tragedy it doesn’t matter how many flashy gymnastics moves they pull off. Wrestling is about investing the crowd and making you lose yourself in a story being told in the ring, that does not require every (obviously choreographed) move in a wrestlers arsenal.

100% HHH gets it though. Guys learned how to get over and stay over like Seth and Moxley

I always thought Dean Malenko had a bit of a foot in both camps. He could do the chain wrestling, in a way I always thought didn't look blatantly rehearsed like the other guys, but would occasionally interrupt it with a big slam like a powerbomb or back breaker. But I always hated the lucha style, SORRY FOLKS, it's horrible. It didn't even pretend to not look fake and robotically rehearsed. Rey and Eddie eventually found a good balance of lucha, technical, and power. Eddie particularly. Most of the others just made it look like a floor routine. Dean just suffered from a complete lack of personality unfortunatly. I think that may have served him better in earlier eras but during the Dew infused hotshotting in the late 90s he just couldn't seem appealing. When not even Jericho carrying 110% of the personality in a feud can make you look interesting, it kinda stalled his career i thought. Still liked his work.

Yeah they still had some bad gimmicks, but 97 in terms of quality was better than 96. Such a shame Bret couldn't stay, his heel persona and promo work was fantastic, should've been Hart vs Austin 2 for the World Title in 98, maybe Last Man Standing or in the Cage.

The best year ever IMO

Rocky maivia becoming the rock

It's very easy to argue that the attitude era started at Survivor Series with the screwjob. 97 is one of the most influential years in wrestling history

@@mmabuff101 Kind of glossed over it because The Rock was injured & didn't come into his personal until 1998.

Plus we got Austin/Bret instead. No way they would have had a better match.

15 followers since 2007 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 gtfo

Absolutely, since he took over, I've watched multiple FULL Raws and Full Smackdowns. I was excited for Cody and liked that stuff, I was def excited for Punk's return but got bored really quick. But I haven't watched multiple full WWE shows back to back since the Ruthless Aggression Era

Much more.

Id lose my smile too if I were postponed by dogs! xD

I did when they were.

$60m then was a lot of money to a company. $60m now is pocket change for a company. Hell, ROH just got bought for $30m.

He still managed to convince Vince to change the direction of the company, Vince clearly wasn't listening to anyone else.

@@freebird2882 Exactly because he definitely wasn't listening to Corny 1970's style of booking lol

@@seantilly1977 Well I'm not sure he listened to russo all that much in terms of booking lol russo was just an ideas guy and he had a lot of bad one's that vince, cornette and other experienced guys had to make good. We saw what happened in WCW when Russo had free reign, he turned the world title into a joke, the wrestlers involved and the product. He was just a guy with more on the pulse ideas of what teens liked.

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Hard to beat the cruiserweight division for great matches. The WWF half heartedly tried to compete with that with their light heavyweight division but Taka as your top guy is a far cry from Rey, Eddie Guerrero or Jericho as your top guy.

But then around 97-98ish they wouldn’t let any of the matches end cleanly so nothing mattered

@@ZBR_ProXP yeah, sad but true

He was the right gay guy at the right time.

@@natwolf687 Lol...... BAHAHAHAHA I laugh myself to sleep when I watch that.

I'm sorry that your dad was such a jerk.

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