And losers will always cite working harder (when the game is working smarter) and blame others for their failure, using sissy language like "toxic work environments". A smart worker can navigate difficulty, co-opt adversaries, and win. I love Corny as a performer and storyteller...but the list of people he could not work with and places he flamed out of is much longer than the reverse. If you go through life thinking everybody else is crazy, it's time for a hard look in the mirror.
I remembered when Jim gave his side about Greg The Office Boy and people said he was bitter. That no one could be that terrible. 7 years later, after everything Joey Mercury has been saying, Jim should be vindicated. Btw, I saw a recent ROH episode and i’ve seen public access wrestling TV this year that had better production and booking. Its mind blowing to think Impact, which was essentially dead 4-5 years ago, is now thriving and ROH, which was the most loved promotion of the 2000’s, has declined and could go out of business if Sinclair decides to pull the plug.
Mercury's has some legit concerns though for a company that is backed by billions of dollars. They could afford to have a wwe style concussion program for their own wrestlers. They could also afford to pay the talent more than what they make at minimum wage job. That is actually a lot harder work than working at McDonald's as these men and women are risking their lives and bodies for shitty wages.
@@emperorpalpatine1228 Ya for company that is par with wwe for earnings. Only paying your talent 20k is a huge rip off. Take into account that the majority of the nxt rosters makes 50-80k a year. No reason Sinclair broadcast couldn't shell out at least 40k to pay the talent they have which is why not one of the talent wants to stay with the company.
They need to work with AEW and Impact to make their wrestlers known to people; since they did jack shit to build up their own midcarders to main eventers in the last couple of years. Hell, I used to be a fan of ROH during the Austin Aries, Tyler Black, Kevin Steen, El Generico, Young Bucks, Adam Cole (and so on) days; and now in 2021, the only guy I know in ROH is Jay Lethal, and that too from his TNA days.
@Da Cashman Because no on believes Undertaker is really shooting lightning bolts. Of course Jimmy would roll his eyes. It can't actually be done. Orange Cassidy and Kenny Omega suck shit. ECW was garbage wrestling for the most part. Hence why almost no one from it ever went anywhere, and all the guys racked up injuries for no pay. Smoky Mountain put some up the board just like ECW did. Both had an audience, and their gate receipts reflect that. Jim closed down SMW with his debts paid. Paul closed down ECW massively in debt, and even said he would have kept racking up that debt if he had had distribution. Cena, Orton, and Batista....so three of the biggest stars in the past decade. Oh and Lesnar, Shelton, and many more. OVW pretty much built WWE's top talent for a decade. Yeah, I guess that's why so many people have sought Jim out for his creative services....because he's not creative. Like Hell in a Cell, and Kane, and all that other uncreative work. Giving Foley the Mandible Claw, the move that put the Undertaker down more than anything else. Guess that's why Ric Flair, one of the greatest of all time, wanted Jim on his team. Guess that's why Dusty Rhodes, one of the greatest of all time, and a talented booker, wanted Jim on his team. And you're just some guy on youtube who doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about.
It seems wherever he's been there's always that one guy, or two, that sticks up his craw. In wcw it was Jim Herd, in Smokey Mountain it was Terry Landel (who wasn't working there) and/or Tim Horner, WWE it was Kevin Dunn and Vince Russo, in OVW it was John Laurinaitis, in TNA it was Vince Russo again and Ring of Honor it was Greg the Office Boy
There's another guy who he wanted to punch in the mouth in ROH was Ross the merchandise weasel because he called Human resources and whined to them how Adam Pearce was gonna beat him up cause Ross didn't like him.
Jim is an attribute to any wrestling organization. He has forgot more about the wrestling business than most people will ever know in their life. It is his unfiltered mouth that will overshadow all of his greatness every time.
His mouth is what convinces people that wrestling in the past was more exciting than it ever was. To just a spectator it doesn't ever live up to Cornettes hype
The funny thing is is that Jim was kind of right about Kevin Steen. Yeah he had a couple years of good attention in the WWE but then WWE quit pushing him and the reason why they quit pushing him was for The same things that Jim Cornett wanted him to work on when he was in ROH. I love how so many people talk about today’s wrestling and Jim has really never gotten a fair chance to work with modern day wrestlers using serious story lines and angles and matches that I actually have psychology. So many of today’s fans think Jim Cornett wants guys walking out there in cowboy hats and cowboy boots and pretending it’s 1983 when Jim has never said that or tried to put a cowboy hat on anyone. Sometimes southern wrestling gets mistaken for serious Wrestling because well southern wrestling were the only ones that really took it serious. Since WCW closed its doors 20 years ago we really haven’t had a wrestling company where they have tried to do things the right way. We’ve had WWE and then we’ve had half a dozen Indy style promotions that have national television and the only one of them that has eyes on them right now is AEW and that’s because they are owned by a billionaire that will pay to have them on a major network. But their fan base isn’t growing even with adding people like CM punk. Yeah he got a lot of ratings the first couple weeks but if you’re not gonna do anything the way it should be done then people are going to get sick of it and her already sick of him.
Yeah funny how that Kevin Steen guy main evented Mania JUST LAST YEAR! Also funny how Steve Austin came out of retirement because he wanted to work with him. You Cornette butt lickers are just as stupid and delusional as he is.
In my opinion Ring of Honor just wasn’t as good when Corny left. 2015 to 2016 was decent enough for one reason (Jay Lethal was ROH Champion) but now it’s pretty much dead
Now ROH had basically just released everyone (commentators, wrestlers, office boys, ring crews, etc) from their contracts. Probably cause of the pandemic due to lack of fans.
Financial security and utter confidence in yourself is one hell of a drug. Couple that with an undying love of Pro wrestling, and a (at the time) firm resolve that he would, somehow someway, pull wrestling back to being wrestling (Which is what ROH represented) and the corporate influence that's killed everything it's touched and you got a napalm bomb.
ROH will be looked upon like ECW... most of the best wrestlers from this generation came from that promotion and their matches there were much better than what they are doing now. The onlything holding them back is production/advertisement.
Idk man alot of former roh guys that are/were in nxt have arguably had their best matches on nxt. Im not knocking ring of honor or your opinion just stating mine
@@TD1021- yeah the drop off isn't as steep as the last generation where guys like RVD would be flipping into the crowd and doing much crazier things in ecw than WWE which used its ECW stars other than Benoit poorly. NXT/AEW they are still allowed to do most of their move sets from ROH. But Kevin Steen/Owens ladder match vs El Generico in ROH is much better than anything he's done in WWE for one example. Crazy how the top guys from NXT and AEW were all just in ROH 2 years ago and most of the wrestling community were unaware just like they were unaware that most of the great TNA talent back in the day was from ROH.
@@KrakenHunterCards no doubt bro roh is unfortunately looking like its on its death bed unless some miracle happens it wont be as big as it was a year or 2 ago
Shane Hagedorn used to manage both The Kings of Wrestling (Now known in WWE as Cesaro and Kassius Ohho) and the American Wolves (Davey Richards and Eddie Edwards().
I really like parts of AEW, hate parts of AEW. Ideally I wish Tony Khan would hire Jim and pay him just to explain why the sucky stuff sucks. Then it's up to Tony what advice he does or doesn't follow. But no matter what, please stop putting Omege/Olivieh in charge of the women's division.
yeah, it's kinda sad, tony khan is now the owner of ROH but he hasn't done anything with ROH except use their titles for their stacked roster and ROH only held 2 PPVs, FUCK YOU TONY!!!!!!!!
If I was to open up my own territory again. Because I previously had one from 2000-2003, I would do anything that I could to hire him. He would be my main guy because once he gets invested in your product he puts his heart and soul into it. I would have complete trust in his ability to run a successful wrestling promotion.
It is a shame really. ROH does have a few talent that I like but I could watch NXT and see a majority of former ROH guys perform every week. Once they lose Scurll, they are done for me.
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I say this with no malice towards Cornette, but I think he'd probably be well served to step back even further from modern wrestling promotions. There's not a promotion out there that's going to do things the way he wants or let him say some of the stuff he does (which does cross the line sometimes IMHO) and obviously, he's not the sort of guy who can keep his mouth shut and just collect a paycheck. As long as his own projects are doing well for him, he's probably better off just focusing on that.
Who can really say? He's repeatedly said he doesn't, and I see no reason to disbelieve him, but at the same time he does keep taking new work in a field he's claimed multiple times to have "quit".
Apparently, people that he personally likes keep calling him about projects that he thinks sound like fun to do. That, and say what you want about Jim, he does legitimately want to help wrestlers and wrestling make money and become as successful as years past.
Sure, and that's an understandable motivation, but at what point does he admit that's not going to happen and stop banging his head against the proverbial brick wall? For his own health and well being, if nothing else, he really should reevaluate things IMHO. The way he gets worked up sometimes, I wouldn't be surprised if he stroked out some day and I've not even joking. It happens.
@@timf7413 Because, as Jim has admitted many times, he's Wrestling crazy. Everything Jim does, and has ever done, in his entire life since he was what? 14 years old? Has been entirely about the Wrestling business. When's he going to stop? When he's dead probably. What else is he supposed to do anyway? Just sit in his house, rocking in his chair, waiting for death to come like so many other retirees? People call Jim about jobs, and he accepts them until such a time as one or both parties don't want him there anymore.
Yall need to watch some Survivor Series show. Shayna and Ripley have star all over them. Especially if you need a heel to sell WM with Becky or Charlotte.
Basically Jim was fucked every which way but down. Ross The Merchandise Weasel refused to let Adam Pierce be the color commentator, threatening to go to HR and got Pierce ex-nayed twice (the first time it was him, then the 2nd time it was him going to HR and HR ex-nayed it), Steen/Owens would go over his promo time trying to expose the business etc.
I knew ROH was going down the crapper when they lost Veda Scott. She says she likes to travel. Really?? You're in a major wrestling company that performs in MANY cities and you "left for travel"??
Jim Cornette is too real and one of the few people who will tell you the truth. Hardly anyone wants to hear the truth anymore. He reminds me of the late Colonel David Hackworth, Military reformer, author and most decorated Combat veteran.
I hardly ever watch TV anyway I just watched ring of honor wrestling for the first time on television today what in the hell is this I mean what happened to wrestling this is like acrobatics times 1 million it’s unbelievable. Have any of you watched ring of honor wrestling do you like it?
ROH became a mini NJPW. Without all that talent they got nothing left. Or very little left. Villain wont be around for much longer either and Lethal/Castle/Rush are wasting their talent right now. They belong in the spotlight.
I think that in the next 2 years that Sinclair Broadcast Group gets out of the wrestling business and sells the ROH tape library and contracts to Tony Kahn just my opinion
Jesus Zamora yeah because when he was booking wwe ratings were at an all time high. Perfectly normal for him to assault a talent for laughing on camera.
I hate to see Jim gone from NWA. It was a nice fit for him. I have heard the wrestlers say a lot of things about Jim; but being prejudice was never said. He just told a 30 year old joke and the world has changed since the first time it passed from his lips. It is very offensive in 2019.
@@THEWRESTLERSWRESTLER he left ROH, and is now throwing all of the shit in the fan. REALLY exposing them, showing conversations, emails. Things were backed up by their women's champion, and so she got fired.
6:03 - 6:35 This. This here is the biggest reason why Cornette immediately started off on the wrong foot with ROH. I'm sorry, but his assessment of ROH was just incorrect. Look at the people who left under Jim as opposed to those who were brought in. Generico, Steen, Corino, Jacobs, Necro, Kingston, Aries, Nana, on top of guys who he dealt with and didn't end up leaving right away like Black, Strong, American Wolves, Briscoes, KOW, etc. Before Jim showed up, they were booking realistic, character based stories. It's not hard to find proof. Look who Jim brought in: Bennett, Mondo, A WGTT that clearly weren't motivated, Cliff fucking Compton, started doing SCUM invasions, feuding over USA vs Embassy, who plays sports better, and he says his booking was more realistic? Bullshit. Everything good he did, anyone would have done because it's the most basic shit to do. ROH became basic and boring under Cornette. He doesn't know what a modern audience wants, or he wouldn't have run off those who would become major stars and replaced them with midcard chaff.
Dude Cornette doesn't bring people in, Delirious/ Hunter did. Cornette literally says that he was the leason between ROH and the office and he helped format the shows. Cornette worked in SMW and OVW where he had to fulfill those needs weekly so he had plenty of experience in doing it. He wasn't the booker like he was in SMW so I think you're off on this.
Steen and Generico always had an attitude problem with 2 or 3 bookers before Delirious and Corny came in. Steen: He refused to drop weight, refused to clean his look up, refused to do finishes the way he was asked to do them. Always complained like an 80 year-old old man whenever he couldn't get his own way because he would of gone too far if he did. Generico: Emailed office guys asking them to pay for his airport parking in Canada. Refused to drop the gimmick that nobody knew what the fuck it was supposed be. He also refused to learn how to do promos. Steen is still to this day an ungrateful fat fuck. Corny bent over backwards for him, including paying for his visa and putting the main belt on him for almost a year even though he still at that point never did what he was told to do. Generico in 2013 finally did all what he should of done years prior.
People need to accept companies that are just "pure wrasslin" won't survive in today's world, there's only been 1 constant because they've adapted, AEW say they are going be a sport but they have more hokey shit than WWE
You think he's ever had the thought that it can't always be everyone else? Ever story he tells he's in the right and everyone else is wrong and he's threatening someone.
Well, in this case, considering that Greg the office boy has come under fire for his management of ROH 7 years after Cornette has been gone, I think he's in the right here.
So now he's grading whether he got fired or it was a draw because he wanted to leave as soon as he heard they wanted him to go? Why is this a segment anyhow. Trying to rewrite history? I see someone's tried to remove all the cornette fired clips on RU-vid. Also Kevin Owens didn't do a sit down with roh employees you hired lol, he did a shoot with rcvideo or whatever same company you have done em with. He buried you for losing your mind for seemingly no reason. That's it. Why would you even be talking about that?
@10:27 and yet, this 50 year old stuck-in-the-past Louisville hillbilly has been goes to Impact Wrestling for a brief time till he found out that Bound for Glory was gonna be in Canada and he was in the recently rebranded NWA until he recently made a thirty year old joke and I guess the NWA got offended and fired him. Cornette shouldn't be involved in the wrestling business as a whole and stay away from it. He's gonna get a heart attack.
@@chrisiverson5648 he may have an awesome mind for wrestling, but he whines and bitches about "wrestling isn't like how it was in my day" or whatever. Remember Jim said George Scott was always waking up thinking it was the 70s? Well guess what, Jim "wrestling isn't like how it was in my day" Cornette's always waking up and pretending it's the fuckin 80s. He and George Scott have one similar thing in common and that's that.
