Jim Cornette Reviews Dark Side Of The Ring's Grizzly Smith Episode 

Amen

I didn't say anything about his daughter. I'm talking about the wrestlers.

@@omarporter851 what? For one thing Robin was a wrestler and second again what?

Robin rocks

@@omarporter851 you must have commented on the wrong feed because nobody said that you said anything about his daughter.

Me and my mother watched it and we where both talking about how sad all that was....wow

I cried the entire episode - just watched it, still crying. Horrifying. All of them deserve peace.

The sad thing is that in years gone by the authorities took a more standoffish approach. Now it would be investigate thoroughly. Also not sure your pastor is a slam dunk given all the allegations regarding the clergy...

@@davidgriffithsbjjcoach7207 yes, Pastor is not the way to go

@@davidgriffithsbjjcoach7207 "Pastor"is not the same as "Priest". The Pastor at the church I grew up in was a very good man who did the right thing in this kind of situation. He immediately called the police and testified at the trial. He also didn't turn his back on me after I told him that I had become an atheist. The only change was he switched from being a minister to a friend when I needed one.

He didn't move in with DDP until late 2012, so we know that is bs.

@@Hi-kq1vi I think he rounded up, 9 years is pretty much a decade.

@@Hi-kq1vi It has pretty much been 10 years but even so it's not bs. The guy has totally changed his life. 10 years, 8 years, 5 years....he is a different man now. It's remarkable he is alive. I met him a week before his HOF induction and he was so happy, so excited meeting his fans that day. You could tell he had a whole new lease on life. He is of course in AEW now and people can trust him when at one point he was unreliable, a mess, an embarrassment at events he was at.

@@Hi-kq1vi Yeah I caught that but he's close enough. He's proud of himself, I'll give him slack for a couple of years when saying he's clean for 10 years. Not that anyone cares but I have been clean from opiates since 4/2014. That's 7 years with not one fuck up. If I round up to 8 or 9 years. Whatever. Now, I don't round up but not everyone is the same. Good for Jake

@@madamefeast4824 It is good he is in a better place, but yes I am highly dubious-he worked the holier than thou WWF gimmick claiming he was clean while doing every drug known to man for a year or so. He from memory fell off the wagon several times-DDP released a video of him admitting to it well into 2013, so even if you buy him being totally clean it is probably more like 6-7 years. Lying about that to such a degree when the possible reality would be hugely impressive if true & seeing clips of him rolling around like a high drunk in AEW obviously makes you question him.

Very emotional . Bless him.

Grizzly Smith DSOTR and Owen Hart DSOTR are the only ones that made me cry 😢

@@kenrickeason The Chris Benoit DSOTR when Jericho said, "the only thing Benoit loved the most in the world, he will never be acknowledged for it, he will forever be erased". That made me emotional as well

I cried as well. When he smiled into the camera at the end as his voice said those words, i could see a glimpse of the young boy he thought bury resurface for one more happy moment.

Me too. He really didn't think he would. None of us and always hoped he would I'm glad the fans helped him with med bills in the past that's so awesome. They really need a foundation for these guys retirement and start them at 50

I hope he overcomes COPD as well...

I hope that these young wrestling fans can finally let Jake Roberts live his life because he's been through pure hell. Now, they can finally understand why he fell for the drug addiction during his wrestling career.

@@Shin-Blade COPD only gets worse, it's a progressive disease.

@@Shin-Blade one doesn't overcome COPD unfortunately

@james noble thats everything. Hes truly an inspiration.

The Von Erichs were self destructive. Jake and his siblings had a shitty father.

I made the same comment. In a better world both Kevin Von Erich & Jake Roberts would co-owning a wrestling company.

@Kwame brown and Jim cornette burner account Anoa'i Family has mostly stayed tragedy free

@@TheChapelx Yoko though?

@@someguytheycallmyers5557 I said mostly. They're had 3 early deaths(Yoko, Umaga and Rosey). For a wrestling family, any family, their odds are still good.

I agree

I agree, but she should have called the cops while he was asleep, instead of letting him leave.

@@garethcullen9604 For what? To deliver food? This is 1940's Texas. This was ok then.

@The Gypsy 60FPS so you are defending child rape telling me I'm 20 years off. Got it.

@The Gypsy 60FPS I know, it's hard for a wrestling fan.

This episode was so messed up in my opinion

That was the line that got me aswell

@@AliHusnain522 it did make me happy Jake saying he 10 years sober and that the whole family themselves are trying get together for lost time I hope that happens after all that messed up stuff they had to go through growing up

Yeah I can't blame any of them for drinking or taking drugs after the youth they had. Good luck with your recovery!

When was the resurrection filmed then, because he was drunk in that and it came out in 2015

@@jasonchasney7367 even if he was, crack was his real problem. If hes sober off tht 10 yrs now, kudos to Jake!

Except him being 10 years sober has to be straight up bullshit. Five years? Maybe. Certainly not ten.

@@Bale4Bond Just cause that documentary came out in 2015 doesn’t mean it HAPPENED in 2015. As far as alcohol goes, Jake is about 7-8 years sober since that documentary was filmed.

Great publicity for DDP yoga though. Lets not forget that.

@@thepublichousebrandcom DDP has helped many lives. He didn't do it for attention. He has helped many non-wrestlers. I met DDP at a horror convention right when he was starting up DDP Yoga and he was promoting the hell out of it, so excited and you could tell he knew it would change lives. I talked to him for almost 20 minutes. Such an amazingly nice guy. A true inspiration. Fuck Ultimate Warrior....WWE should hand out the DDP Award.

Ddp helped the guys that gave him knowledge in Wrestling. He loves Scott and Jake

@@Peppers19781978 he didn't do it for the attention and while it was already a big deal, the product definitely benefited from the help it'd given Jake and Scott

@Shin-Blade Grizzly Smith - one lucky bastard.

Absolutely the MOST disturbing one.... I thought the Chris Benoit episodes were bad but this was awful in many aspects.

@@TBOTSS As far as the law? Yes. Otherwise? He isn't...

@@danijade8432 Chris Benoit episode wasn't that bad but I will have to get back to you with what I think is as disturbing as this episode. The Ultimate Warrior episode wasn't that great or discovering as the A&E Biography episode though...

I knew how this episode was going to be, because of what I have heard about Grizzly Smith and his family. Most people knew a lot of this stuff, but this episode put it in a more specific light rather than just vague statements.

If there’s a hell I hope grizzly smith is rotting there

That part was absolutely shocking

That part instantly reminded me of the Netflix doc Abducted in Plain Sight. I wouldn’t recommend it unless you know what you’re getting into but its core story has a lot of similarities.

what bothered me about that part, is that they never went in deeper into that. Yeah he came home with her and Robin took her away from him...then what? Who was the little girl? Did she eventually ended up with Grizzly again? Did her parents come and picked her up?...They left it up in the air i feel

@@el-youtub3r402 What unscrupulous parents let that girl hang out with a stranger old enough to be her grandpa.

I was particularly impressed with robin. I hope they can all bond and get to know each other her while they’re still here .

@Philip Tucker I don't think Grizzly even was in the WWWF let alone the WWF. Jake obviously was

@Philip Tucker he was a disgusting human being but I just double checked. Grizzly was in AWA and NWA and Mid-south etc. He wasn't even in WWF W Vince. So.... Weird comment

I mean then you wonder why Jake did drugs and drank.

@@jakedull2553 you come out of the episode with nothing but empathy for Grizzly's poor kids...he fucking destroyed all of them and the fact they survived him is a miracle in of itself

@@glennjoyce7682 facts 💯

Yep! Fritz did some questionable things concerning his kids, but he never did anything monstrous like grizzly Smith! Heck, when I was watching the episode, I was thinking “and I thought Jimmy Snuka, Chris Benoit, new Jack and even Fritz was bad! Grizzly Smith is another level of evil!“

Totally agree, Fritz might have been a little rough on the edges, but he wasn't ashamed to kiss and hug his sons

Don’t forget about Stu Hart

@@EVGriffinJr jimmy snooker

@@runnersdialzero1244 LOL! My bad! I didn’t see that the first time! I just fixed it!

very true

Touché

And if a man slurps up too much nut... He becomes Mil Maska.

The man drinks piss, i doubt he came up with that quote himself.

Cool post... did you think of it yourself?

Exactly!! I grew up in a small town in Alabama and things like that do happen.. I guarantee everybody knew.. They was just either afraid to say something cause of retaliation from the ones who was doing it or They were doing the same things themselves..

@@kenrickeason it’s like when priests get away with diddling kids for years and years. People know. Just so happens that the pedo has been trusted with half the communities deepest darkest secrets during “confession”...while the other half look at the person in such a light, that they wouldn’t believe you if you told them.

@@tonyperkis4154 You right.. It sad man and disgusting..

I bet law enforcement or judges were doing it too and Grizzly knew. They couldn't risk punishing Sam and pissing Grizzly off.

Nasty good ole boy crew

DDP is a saint

@@thesupremepizzaking He is, Until a handshake turns into a Diamond Cutter

@@TihetrisWeathersby & with that, u never c it coming!

Back then, Jake and Scott Hall had to be at the top of alot of people's lists of wrestlers who wouldn't be alive in the next 5 years. DDP is the patron Saint of troubled wrestlers

DDP doesn't get enough credit.. Kinda disappointed how The Undertaker treated him back in the day now..

She was smokin hot back in the day, and was a great worker. Shame her career wasn't longer. Despite everything, she turned out to be a good person.

Right? "She wants to try Daiquiris." WTF

Yeah and she never even called the police so he more than likely just found another child to abuse and lived the rest of his life a free man. Disgusting.

I wished though they would have gone in greater detail about the abuse that Jake and Robin went through. You understand why they didn't obviously, but i felt they just scratched the surface....

@@el-youtub3r402 To be honest I think that was enough, to imply his children had been abused then go on about all his other escapades paints the picture without needing to be told

I think that's why Jim Ross specifically made it a point in his first book to talk about what a horrible POS Grizzly was he could have easily skated over it but he didn't he told the stories made them public as a great f you same with Bob Sweetan.

@@WhatwouldRoddyPiperdo Yea i can see your point. Robin would have probably not been willing to come on the show if she was forced to share every detail about the abuse she suffered

@@el-youtub3r402 p

He was a monster..a true sociopath and the fact that Jake survived him with his life is a miracle

@@glennjoyce7682 And I know some people dislike Jake for not always being a model parent himself but in hindsight, look at the role models he had growing up, no wonder he's so screwed up!

I hope grizzly gets his on his judgement

@@ChrisC11291980 Yeah compared to Grizzly, Jake looks like Father of the Year.

@@JackgarPrime indeed he does.

Me too

I believe that a lot of wrestling fans thought that Jake Roberts was his real name. I did for years up until last year.

Check out the ddp intervention on jake the snake roberts documentary....its fantastic

You never looked him up?

Same, but now makes sense why he wanted to change his name.

Been saying that since it was announced. Grizzly smith n dynamite are gonna be the shockers for a lotta people. Just way too many nasty stories.

@@GrimCleanerDetailing Tbh i felt Grizzly's episode wasn't that hard of a pill to swallow.... They told the stories of what everyone had rumored about him but they didn't went into great detail. You understand why of course. I felt the Benoit episode or Owen's was way more powerful

That's the one I'm looking forward to the most though along with the FMW one. Dynamite Kid was before my time and my favorites have been the ones I'm not too familiar with. The Beniot one is probably the best. But I remembered that so vividly it just brought back terrible memories.

@@el-youtub3r402 i think the fact they hinted at things (like the kidnapping/ murder) made it even more sinister.

@@thepublichousebrandcom Yea it got dark when they came into that topic but to me it was definetly not the most dark DsotR episode i've seen

I've only seen one of the A&E bios and it was the one on the Macho Man...that was enough for me. Borderline terrible. All of these random interview clips with a lot of people who had nothing to do with Randy telling secondhand stories about him and a weird overall biography that barely touched on huge stretches of his career. Felt like amateur hour aimed at people who had never watched wrestling all the way through.

@@gst013 macho man is the worst one, the others are good. Especially Foley and Austin

@@danielwilson9724 those are the 3 I’ve seen and the other 2 were definitely better… plus andre but that was done years ago, not as part of a series

i think Sam had it the easiest out of them three, thats how it came across through the episode at least....

@@el-youtub3r402 imagine if Sam, who tried to hang himself in prison, had it the easiest....what does that say about Jake and Robyn? Truly a very tragic life for them. 😖

@@georgesalgado8783 but they're all still standing

@@gothchicksbongrips5712 that's right. They made it.

@@el-youtub3r402 He did because they said Jake and Robin kept things from him because he looked up to his dad though Sam almost drank himself to death, is lucky he didn't kill others and almost hung himself. Their other brother had it the easiest because he got away from the family as a kid.

I mean, you never exactly know what other people are like behind closed doors. You may hear rumors, and background talk, but a lot of time it may seem like jealousy of an authority figure.

You mean a dangerous disgusting paedophile never told his hairdresser about all of his crimes? Astonishing.

@Henry Lee I've never heard anyone accuse jake of diddling kids so 🤷

Lets not use the Lords name in vain

I sincerely hope you're doing well these days.

@@emigrant1510 i appreicate it, I never went down the alcohol and drugs like others have but memories never go away sadly, it’s easier to talk about but never easy to move on

@@oN3xShOtxkilL Damn Marcus........the fear and turmoil you must've endured. No child should ever, ever have to go through this. I commend your bravery and strength. I hope someone was there to help.

@@ManifestMyFuturesDestiny it took me many years before I could talk about it with my mother, I’ll never tell my father about it.

Sorry you went through that ish!!! Hope everything is well! ☺️

Several legs up on a “fan” considering his historical knowledge, collection, and understanding of the business. You just don’t like the guy, which is fine

You probably shouldn't ever critique food because you're not a chef, idiots

Cornette has known Brian since Brian was a 13 year old tape trader attending SMW shows. He met Cornette at an SMW show, and they kept in correspondence through tape trading. Brian also has a well connected family.

Good point

that WAS in the episode tho...

@@hughjass7101 mentioned the husband very briefly, but not about the vast age difference. An abused teen marrying a man old enough to be her grandfather is telling.

not sure what that would have to do with the woman murdering her

I thought he did kinda mention it in Beyond the Matt, in a scene where he was drunk and rambling he mentioned his mother being raped and he mentioned a sister being murdered. I thought it was Rockin Robin for a long time, but glad to see sh is still with us. But I swear I saw it on Beyond the Matt, or I'm experiencing that Mendela Effect thing......👽

He mentioned it on beyond the Matt

He is a hero

R. Kelly never touched his own kids

@@kylesantos8190 grizzly is a hero you pos

@@lifeinsurancecareerfactsan808 Sam Houston is that you?

@@lifeinsurancecareerfactsan808 Weird. Ok

Jim Cornette is a wrestling legend. A walking wrestling encyclopedia, he's got a collection of memorabillia in his home. He's got a true love for wrestling, good, bad and ugly!

He also blamed the Ultimate Warrior….and then is still bitter as hell that Shawn Michaels and the Hitman became World Champs.

@@j.rivera6402, Bret had a loving and respectful relationship with Stu. Stu and Grizzly were both prominent figures in wrestling. Bret and Jake were similarly sized (not in tone or definition), and they both have brown hair. It’s not far fetched that Jake may have projected himself onto Bret, and was envious of Bret and Stu’s relationship. “Why him, I’m just like like”. Out of all the Jake Feuds, the Bret one made the least amount of sense. However, this gives it a little reason.

Jake had a choice and he made the wrong one. Jake not the only person to come from a dysfunctional family. This his fault and no one else.

@@chelsesterling8264 that’s a disgusting outlook to have.

@@mrmoviemanic1 However disgusting it is it is true He chose to be a drug addict for decades but I am glad he finally stopped That being said I have nothing against him and these two pricks in the video clearly do

People took it with a grain of salt at the time. Jake was known for telling a lot of tall tales that he swore was the truth.

I had never heard anything about him until the crime in sports podcast. His story is sickening.

What happened with Buck Zumhofe? I've never heard of any of that.

@@nunyabizniss3451 He's now (thankfully) in prison for the third and final time for child molestation, in this case he got 25 years for molesting his daughter.

@@nickca420 Jesus christ, that's awful

I’m not sure if it’s up here anymore, but IYH Wrestling interviewed Buck well before his arrest, and it was...uh....pretty weird.

Most people with addictions are trying to suppress something. So maybe you should drop that mindset. It's rare someone with a perfect life decides they're going to be inebriated 24/7. Keith Richards but he'd die if he stopped.

No one does that much dope and coke and alcohol because they want to. It's a means of escape.

well we're all glad you can display some slight empathy only after hearing the graphic details of being raped as a child by his stepmom. why the fuck would you automatically think someone is "a bad guy" for being an addict, or the stigmatized derogatory word "junkie."

“Junkies” are not bad people. They’re all like Jake and been through severe trauma at home then they go out into the world and get treat like scum for “being a Junkie” or being a bit “off” because of the abuse and that makes the spiral worse

A lot of stuff a small town will hide.. I'm from a small town out of Alabama and you would be surprised on what will come out if you ask the right people.. Sh_t crazy man..

Im from Kilgore and it shocked me too! Small towns cover up everything bad that happens. You cant even mention the KFC murders that happened in Kilgore in 1984 when I was 13 in a public FB group about growing up there or to any older people in that town without getting scolded or the evil eye. If you do a search for Jo Lynn Rogers Tatum Texas on google, you will see a FB post in a Tatum Texas group from one of the researchers from Vice TV asking for information or photos of the search that took place after she was kidnapped. Posted in Oct of 2020. Not a single “like” or comment on the post. That tells you how much small towns still hide their past even 40 years later

@@JimmyAdcock well howdy neighbor hahah but yeah I knew about the KFC murders cause I went to Henderson High but wow! I had no idea they even made a post! Crazy shit

@@ThaRealWorld would love to hear some of the stuff you found out!

@Kwame brown and Jim cornette burner account Bury your head in the sand then. Jim is not being truthful because it makes him look like an enabler. Which he, and everyone else in those lockerooms were. Also, the R&R Express would routinely moleste teenage rats back in the day. Jim probably is already ready with excuses holstered for whenever that comes up. ....clown.🤡

@@thorvalentinehatesytalgori2632 Well I’m going to be that “Internet Guy” and say it - if you’ve got proof, report it to the local authorities, otherwise you’re no better than the enablers you’re upset about.

They really aren’t that well put together. Gino Hernandez episode is a clear example. Go back and watch that episode and tell me what happened with the uncircumcised Latino body...or how Ginos mom thought something sinister happened with a shady friend for the last 30 years, but one of those shady friends calls and says nobody killed Gino...so she was just OK with it now. They never circled back to that dead body that mom and wife knew wasn’t Gino. Snukas was bad, too. They had an obvious agenda, so it’s easy to see how much was left out. Even this episode on Grizzly. Clearly stuff was left out. I like the setting, and the topics because I’m a wrestling fan....but the info leaves a lot to be desired. A lot of the episodes don’t have much new info that’s not pretty public knowledge. There’s absolutely legitimate complaints with every episode and topic....and some of it is due to laziness and bad investigation/interviewing.

@@tonyperkis4154 How much can you cover in 45 minutes?

Ultimate warrior one was terrible. Last 15 years crammed into 5min when it was probably the time that needed most addressing. Most of these are well done, a handful have been terrible though.

@@SLURM187 if you are going to put in red herrings, you have to explain them later. If they aren’t red herrings, it’s just facts, then you have to keep going down that path. If you are going to use the “uncircumcised Hispanic dead body....but Ginos mom and wife say he was circumcised and wasn’t Hispanic “ and then conclude the episode with “nothing sinister happened”...you need to tell the viewer HOW all of this is possible. Yes, they all need to be longer....but even the longer ones are lazy. If you are passionate enough about these topics, you can tie the stories up cleaner in 45 minutes than what they have. You can cut out a lot of useless shit in all of them. Or maybe they are adding useless shit for the drama, and I’m hung up on the useless stuff....then they should not put it in if the can’t end the story cleanly.

It's the only thing Vice does that I'll watch. They usually do leftist biased crap.

Yeah I think people knew he was doing something. The fact that people told jokes of him liking them young tells me that there were people in the business that knew and could have turned a blind eye to it.

Seems weird now but they really probably had no idea about what was really going on

Grisly would have paid them off

They knew. He probably paid them.

If your parents are allowing this they are just as repsonsible for what happened.

How about those parents that sent their kids off with Boy Scout leaders. Or to be altar boys.

Most people never bought it. Plus, it isn't like Jake Roberts has a reputation for being an honest person.

Dude mj didnt touch to fuckin kids he was a abused kid and just wanted to have that childl ike innocent again . it was proven he did nothing to the kids that the parent made them to testify he touched them . well the kids after growing up came back out saying out much of a lie it was and their parents made them say what they said an they was so sorry they hurt micheal they loved him but he knew what was up . its a shame they attacked him and smeared him like they did cause he was goin against the music industry for abuse. He was a damn good man read some fuckin shit and stop bein a sheep following the herd look up the damn court case .

@@wlidbill5261Mj was guilty as sin and none of his accusers ever recanted. I read his legal docs in a criminal justice class; he clearly was a ''nice guy predator''. Grown men don't have sleepover with young boys

A guy I worked with got locked up a few months ago for some pedophilia shit with his step-daughter. You never know what happens behind closed doors with someone.

Mostly people are a lot more skeptical and suspicious to a grown man hanging around children that aren't his than it appears they were 40+ years ago

Pat had nothing to do with that. They were completely made up allegations by both Billy Graham and Roddy Piper, both of whom admitted they made it up in order to damage Vince. People need to stop spewing this ignorant nonsense.

@@chriskay1449 such b.s your sick

@@chriskay1449 trolling at its finest

@@jakehowell3069 It's not BHS. Both are on public record admitting they lied. What is truly sick is you and other continuing to peddle false allegations against a guy who is no longer living. The guys you are talking about are Terry Garvin and Mel Phillips.

@@chriskay1449 no mention of Tom Cole tho no??? Of course not why would you mention him??? Why was Mel Phillips re hired and told to stay away from the youngsters by Vince and Linda then???? Your sick mate I thank god my kids will be no where near you.

It’s not as if they’re doing what they do in front of people. Or even tell people. If you was into some dark stuff would you go around telling people?

I kinda felt this wasn't the time for that smh.. This is what happens when you're marks for not letting shit go or the past/nostalgia so much it controls your present and the future as far as showing empathy

Jim said that about Grizzly and said that's where Jake got it for the character.

Right what he said towards the end was lame and petty

Very bitch like move from Brian

didn't know, Brian is petty af

We have a similar celebrity in the UK called Jimmy Savile, look him up.

@@thepublichousebrandcom Had, anyway.

Oh people probably had a good idea but they didn't pry or say it to Grizzly's face because he was a big figure (literally and figuratively) in the territory days and had influence to bury other wrestlers if they spoke out. I also find it hard, VERY HARD, to believe Bill Watts wasn't aware of any of this. I don't buy that shit for a second.

@@TheSoundwave92 true. Corruption and lack of morals are ugly

Yeah someone else knew and sadly didn't care

I think it's more they heard things but coming out and saying it when it never came directly from the victims is tough. Although Cornette's defending of Bill Watts constantly is getting tiresome. The guy was openly racist for one thing.

Absolutely people knew! They just couldn't prove it, especially when dealing with a guy so high profiled like Grizzly. He ran his lil town in Texas. I'll never understand how you see a FUCKING CHILD and not want to do everything I'm your power to protect them! How in the entire fuck do u see a child and want to do something sexual to them? Kill every pedophile!!!

They knew but couldn't do anything about it because Grizzly would no doubt get them blackballed.

Dark Side of the Chocolate Factory

He did like dark skin males! I'm going to have a hard time enjoying chocolate now thinking about the possibility of tainted chocolate.

@@troublesomewestsideoutlaw5754 Lol well to be fair it wasn't a race thing for Dahmer, he simply chose victims based on how attractive he found them to be. There were blacks, whites, Laotians. But yeah, blacks were the largest group. Milwaukee also has a large African-American population so that might have just made it more likely that he'd find more black victims as a result.

R kelly fans are like this to. They knew but didn't want to know and turned a blind eye lone who the fuck travels with a underage girl

Sam seems like a nice guy but I'm not sure he's playing with a full deck of cards these days.

how was he a lure

@@laurakain1524 Sam's father used him as bait to help lure in the girls that his father wanted. Sam didn't know it at the time, but he was told about it years later. How does that not mess with your head?

@@jakefoley9539 would you be?

@@DrJReefer Probably not, no.

Same here Bro.... Felt sick !

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