Jim Cornette Reviews Dave Meltzer & Bryan Alvarez Arguing Over Toni Storm 

Can I catch him with a master ball?

@@jaybarnacles4846he will throw it back and tell you piss up a rope 😂

*Dave Meltzer uses Wrestling Analysis.* It's not very effective.

They're so majestic in their natural habitat

The best

No itl be start of new rating limits 15* ,so he can give SPEEDY Kahn 14.5* for his next appearance

9 stars if Kenny spat on them

If the argument featured Kurt Angle, he would rate it 4.5 stars despite universal acclaim for being one of the best arguments of all time.

It would sell out

18 stars if Ospray chimed in

That checks still coming

@@christian6455 Jim Cornette is the learning tree. Dave Meltzer is the learning disability.

I'm convinced Tony and the Bucks go to Dave for booking advice and some of these ideas are his. It matches with his mental state being erratic

@@layersofjade5197 ah man

U can say asses....Ur a grown fucking adult!! Maybe not

We can only hope...and by december we should have at least 8 hours worth...might be a two parter.

Has to come out🔥🔥🔥🤣🤣

Oh god yes please.

best idea I have ever heard

we gonna laugh all day with that Omnibus 😂😂😂😂

When faced with so much unarguable truth, from someone close to him who he can't accuse of being bias towards the competition too and he is still so defensive rather than just agreeing. He's either booking or is in love with Tony Khan 🤡

@@lulsinki The thing is, Dave actually is right, he just doesn't know how to debate. AEW has done situational booking for years now, Moxley, Danielson, Claudio, PAC, and Lucha Bros all switch roles depending on their opponents. Why Bryan is just now noticing this, I have no clue.

@@billybarnett9518 they don't even have to switch roles that's the thing. You have tweeners that will fight any heel or face, those tend to get massive support. And if you are actually good at booking you can book a heel v heel or face v face properly without having to switch one during or after, even double turns if done right can be amazing

@@lulsinki They do have tweeners, Jim just doesn't like them.

I'm sure he's giving input. More than anything, his entire reputation is on the line with the success or failure of AEW. For years he's been out in front yelling to thr mountains that this was the future of wrestling and guys like Cornette were "out of touch" with what modern wrestling was. If AEW fails it's him who was out of touch the entire time

🎶 we don't need no, Chris Jericho🎶 🎶 we don't need no, AEW 🎶 .. HEY! CORNETTE, LEAVE THE MARKS ALONE! 🎶 🎵 all in all marks are just bricks in the wall 🎶🎵

​​@@OmegaRedFanI think you got a bit too excited there if you wanna make a catchy parody song listen to the song you're parodying and write lyrics that sound similar to it. Otherwise you get what you just spit out which was jumbled up nonsense. Not having a dig just giving some constructive criticism. The first two lines were great.

😂😂😂

Can't wait for Alvarez to write "The Death of AEW" and there is an entire chapter on how badly Meltzer's shadow booking was.

"It was me, bryan, it was me all along!!" - dave meltzer

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

"Chin up, tits out, and watch until ten fifteeeeen" 😂😂😂

Yeah right

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Like Rats deserting the sinking ship

Fools go down with the ship, smart people evacuate while there's still time. Bryan is looking smarter every week. Just hope Kenny's not working us.

​@@asurlybarber3620Same, but I think Kenny wants that big blockbuster storyline against Ospreay about who is Meltzer's favourite.

It just now occurs to me how much Meltzer talks like Dustin Hoffman's Rainman character.

@@asurlybarber3620Kenny is a work

Simple Dave

​@@YuriBobo this m-m-m-match m-m-m-m-made me ha-happy

@@arthurdaffos1490😂😂😂😂😂

16:49 Never take a sip of your drink while listening to Unca Dave is the REAL lesson here ... Got me good! 😂😂😂😂

I bet he's so confused about how Bron Breakker is booked on Raw.

@@niranu78 “Bron didn’t show off 20 different flips and holds in a 30 minute classic, they are making him look weak” - Dave

That is the thing I have seen a lot of in AEW. They put what are supposed to be main eventers out there with absolute nobodies. Then those supposed stars have to take 15-20 minutes and barely win. That is beyond silly. In any other era it would be a squash, where if you kinda liked the underneath guy he would get the start of a hope spot, then done.

This is a great point and pretty similar to a thought I had while listening to this… Dave seems to be at the point where someone like Toni Storm, a world champion, having a heatless competitive 7 minute match with an inexperienced opponent is actually a great display of how good of a wrestler she is, because she can go that long with someone who’s green and make them look alright. Which is all good a fine, Toni is definitely a good hand, but the point is that it doesn’t make any booking sense when trying to build an angle for a championship match not even two weeks away with a different wrestler who’s known for being a technician and a badass. It’s a microcosm of Dave and the IWC’s mark mentality, which is that they’re watching not for the angles, the stories or the personalities; they’re watching to see how many moves each wrestler can do in their choreographed routine and how long they can do it for. And that’s precisely why Dave blathers out the word “match” as often as he does… to him, the professional wrestling experience is sitting at home by himself in front of a television or computer and watching matches after they’ve originally aired, often without commentary he understands, and being impressed by how long the match went on and how many flashy suplexes were done, with bonus points awarded if the wrestlers actually look like wrestlers and if the crowd is large and excited about the event. It’s such a soulless and pathetic way to enjoy wrestling, which is why it appeals so much to the type of people who don’t have a life outside of this shit… Dave and his followers have fully convinced themselves that their understanding of professional wrestling is superior to everyone else’s, and since they don’t have anything else, they can’t let it go.

@@jackieparmzI’ve been echoing the same sentiment for a while now and you’ve articulated it brilliantly. Well put.

I agree. Fewer 5 minute clips. More 30+ minute clips.

YEAHHH

No thanks

Yeah but how much is gonna be an ad read?

We're not worthy! Lol

Its wild that this use to be a joke and now it's actually like he has early onset SOMETHING

He’s always been a spaz

That's common with most autistics, unfortunately.

Spaz is a nice word for it

He got CTE from watching neck bumps

Ive started investing in mre

Next thing you know, Hulk Hogan will stop lying and start telling the truth. I think that's the 6th sign of the apocalypse

@@RolaAddict Ric Flair leaves a modest tip, sober as a judge.

@@brendandenamadrai5353 He still elbow drops a jacket that just appeared out of nowhere, right?

The asteroid Apophis is coming in mid-April 2029. That's why politics doesn't care, that's why the Corona pandemic was a test run for crowd control, and that's why Bill Gates stole Dave Meltzer's mind.

… Bryyyyaaaaaaan!

If literally everyone stopped watching the show, and literally no one came out to the events, and Tony Khan finally decided to just call it good and close up shop, Dave Meltzer would still consider it to be the most flawless wrestling TV of all time. He is set in his mind and no amount of evidence or logic will ever change it.

Closer to Principal Skinner. "Am I out of touch? No, it's the children that are wrong."

The guy is cluless and I don't understand people still bringing him up.

Old man ummmmms at cloud.

But if it was WWE Dave would say the match wasn't good even if it got a good reaction from the crowd. He says his star ratings are opinion, then cites how many 4-5 star matches a wrestler has as a bellwether of talent

Good grief you got Jim in the silent movie technology, lol

Didn't know the general audience from Jim Cornette's podcast were teenage kids who doesn't know about 3D bicolor glasses...

The anaglyph glasses are older than Jim

There was Must See tv back in the day. This is Must Listen youtube.

Only thing that woulda made the artwork better is if Uncle Dave was dressed like Teddy Roosevelt charging San Juan Hill.

For maximum lazy booking it needs to be a no DQ match.

loser of the match cleans Daves office

Custody of Lance Storm Ladder Match

That'd be like booking Heath Slater vs. Curtis Axel for total control of the Social Outcasts at WrestleMania 32. 😄

​@@mickeyd8768Underrated comment.

What? He isn't draining the cesspool lol.

Yep. Also, Sami blew up that match for a DQ and was clearly the babyface which helped set up the triple threat match at the PLE. It's like Dave doesn't even get the basics of pro wrestling anymore.

Yes, but here, Gable is a cheezy heel, Reed is an intimidating monster heel(who doesn't rely much on cheap tactics), they both had a match which ended in DQ after Babyface Sami Interfered the match because he has been the target for them for few weeks. The feud isn't a heel vs heel, the feud is a babybace Vs a Cheesy heel Vs a Monster heel. And the thing isn't just about being heel Vs heel, it's about how a babyface is acting like a heel while the heel is acting like a babyface which doesn't make sense and the constant switch between a heel and babyface without a reason. You know the way Tony Khan books, if some face gets booed this week in a match, he will book him as a heel in the next week match, but no explanation, no reason, he is now heel because he was getting booed. If some heel is getting cheered massively despite beating the shit out of another babyface. He will start to book him as babyface next week because crowd are rooting for him because of something. He doesn't bulid the face turn. He doesn't build most of the turns.

lmao no. Watch Otis as well. Heels and faces don't exist anymore. It's a normal evolution. Dave is actually right.

@MattyPeq Otis is a face being forced to do heelish things by his mentor Gable. He is tied right now because it's his best friend. it's his mentor, who gave him his opportunity in wwe, so he has been left with no choice but to listen. He hasn't turned on him yet because he has a sense of loyalty towards him. That's how sympathetic babyface is built, this will get him even more over as a face. If you can't separate that, then I don't know how you keep up with stories. The day Otis finally hits Gable, he will get a huge reaction. A similar sort of story has been in wrestling since forever, where someone is compelled to do bad things because of his mentor, tutor, but finally, he has enough. There's a reason he is compelled to do heelish things even though he is face when he has to, not like Tony Storm where without a reason someday she becomes face, someday she is heel. Dave has the dumbest take. He can't even give valid reason on why he thinks it is good and why it's not, when he has. He is just a knowledgeable wrestling historian, but the more I listen him the more it becomes clear he is far away from the indepth knowledge of wrestling business psychology. How can people take someone opinions seriously who can't even back up his reason for something he says clearly.

@MattyPeq just look at Wardlow and MJF story, Wardlow was a heel. He was a monster heel under MJF. He then, somewhere on the journey, developed some positivity. He had already become face from his heart, but he couldn't because he was tied with MJF's contract, who is a master manipulator. His contract wasn't with AEW, but with MJF. MJF gave him his job. So, even though MJF kept insulting him and talking smack with him, he had no choice but to listen him. He felt a sense of loyalty towards him. But one day, the MJF crossed that one line, which kept Wardlow with him, and finally, Wardlow got courage and a reason to hit MJF, but at what cost?? He lost his job, but looking at the progress he had done over years, he got an opportunity for a job with a match in aew, if he would win, he would get a job in aew. He won that match and then got signed with AEW . So, he finally, after all the drama, he became free from MJF. That's how Wardlow was built. But then, AEW completely fumbled the booking of Warlow, and now his worth has completely derailed.

HE'S NOT A HEEL!!!

Get out of hehe mark

He's the drizzling shits.

NEGATIVE 5 STARS

No debate negative 5 stars lol

1 star if he's broadcasting from the Tokyo Dome.

Which is the same as no stars. So we're all in agreement

Watch Bryan break the NDA and sue AEW next because the payments have stopped coming in.

I don't listen to the guy or follow him at all tbh but whenever i hear him talk about AEW it's more of him shìtting on them then not

The ship is sinking. Alvarez wants to make sure he's on a lifeboat, and I don't blame him.

He dont need a lifeboat, he has a golden boat, a boat made out of pure gold

@@romegrey2600the product sucks

Nah, he realized that as long as Dave praises them then he still gets paid.

Uncle Dave would argue: "Well DC characters switch between heroes and villains all the time too."

​@@markdawson7255 which is hilarious, considering in DC when people go from hero to villain, they usually stay villains

The Just For Men got into Dave's brain and rebooted his brain in mid sentence

Okay, NO 😂

Agreed and well said

Well put

Dude, you are watching wrestling and you are making fun of people liking to watch "play fight"? Seems like you have some internal shame in being a wrestling fan and you try to cope in some way

@@meciocio I think the point he's making is that without the story and the investment in the characters you really are just watching two people play fight.

@@AnneHathawayRules how would having a story change the fact that there are two people who "play fight"? lmao. It's like saying that if you remove the story elements from ballet then it's just "silly cringe dancing". It just funny to me all the mental gymnastics some people do to justify themselves on watching and enjoying wrestling.

Happy Birthday!

Happy birthday bro

Happy birthday!

Happy Birthday

Happy bday! Hope you have a great year 🙏

Perc angle couldn't beat moxley in an amateur wrestling match, moxley is an Olympic level savant and a technical genius who's trained to perfection in every style of combat imaginable, he also does the best interviews and cuts the most badass promos

@@petebagwell6666 he's also the world's best plumber. Ha.

That's statement has to be a joke

@@nickparsons1245 no. I think ol marble mouth Meltzer proves cte is contagious. Ha.

Did he do it with a broken freaking neck? Oh wait, no he did it drunk. Ha. ​@@petebagwell6666

After BANGER

After burger 🍔

After BURGER. Wait wrong thread.

Who is going to be doing the Banging?

After Burger 🍔

Last night mega baby face, Reed did a promo basically saying I love to hurt people for moneyyyyyy, brrrrrother

Yeah. They are both heels. Gable is just a level above Reed and the crowd wanted him to lose.

Both heels, showing they're both threats to face Sami.

It was also like 2 minutes long when Sami interfered. HORRIBLE example by Dave.

I thought him falling off nakatomi plaza was a work

@@Dale-jr7oj Actually, it was a shoot. They dropped Alan Rickman before the countdown was complete, so as to get a genuine fear reaction in his face. He was furious, apparently.

I think Bully ray gave him 3.5 😂😂

Five st-st-st-st-stars

@@AnneHathawayRules 5 starts ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

@@swishbenoit4489 😂😂😂

Would of been a 6 and half star stutter had it been in the Tokyo dome 😂

Somewhere, Tony is crying and fearing for his life after this truth

Kenny is working he's not being serious

@@Sky_BlazeFor what? A match with Dave?

15:28

Dave is also trying to prove he was right but people showed him no one cares about the Indy style he likes

Drew is a heel if I've ever seen one lol, he's just a heel who doesn't see himself as one

@BBoy4040 Drew is being portrayed as a tweeter. He recently had beef with Damian Priest too. But I'm not here to argue. Muting you, and have a nice day.

Hell yeah, I'm about to smoke a big fat Janice! Ha.

damn I'm doing the same thing

Smoking a bit fat bong toke myself, cheers

Just made a great guac, rolling my j as we speak. Cheers friends

Bout to drain this whole cartridge listening to Uncle Dave get shit on

The Guatemalan flying toe hold sent me over the edge. 🤣🤣🤣

@@joolsmacgrools1288 🤣🤣

Right? I thought her moveset was gonna be old school or something, with arm drags and maybe a DDT as her finisher. You're supposed to be from the 1930's but your finisher is a snap piledriver? Or that super flippy DDT she did on Riho? Get tf out of here.

​@@BBoy4040even without the old timey stuff. Just be a heel or a face. It's wrestling 101. Ha.

That's not fair to Hannity. Hannity doesn't slur his words, with his tongue hanging out of his mouth.

@@EwanCumiaHe only does that during Fox’s Trump Town Halls.

It's not even supposed to be competitive. Toni is the champ. Let Harley Cameron have a competitive match with a Ruby SoHo, or a Kris Statlander. You make your champion look weak when underneath, underdeveloped talent have a "competitive match" with a champ.

Cause Dave's a 69 God!

FREAKY ASS MARK​@@sylvesterstanton7488

I agree, her gimmick is one of the better ones I've seen anywhere in a while.