According to Mick, Owen would actually go home and crash at fans houses to save money. Mick thought he was crazy but the two of them use to see who could find the cheapest place to stay and Owen started staying with fans just to top Mick.
I think Mick Foley won. He said that him and Owen did a challenge on who can travel cheap but Owen quit cause he went over $20 or something like that it was on his documentary. That's the thing people get its NEVER how much you get its how much you save, that's why a lot of them travel together and split everything.
I never thought that was funny hearing those stories. I mean I get like Jim said here,getting a cheap room,keeping the clunker car you had since College. But going overboard like he and Owen Hart(May He Rest In Peace)did,that is just trying to get attention.
lol. Ryback blasted the most gear in the wwe and taking similar doses to pro bodybuilders which would've cost a fortune explains why he was complaining about his wwe pay. Still not making excuses for the goof who was a cheap goldgerg knock off and the only thing he did copy correctly was being green and injuring talent.
Funny that famous artist Rob Shamburger who does the wwe art, uses the exact same app they used to make cornettes face in this. Then he simply traces it and is now filthy rich and famous bc of it.
The secret is the Law of Attraction. You get what you put in. In Ryback's case, he put in a lot of whining. What he got was pity. AJ Styles puts in passion. He gets back passion from the fans
In wrestling... he might not be wrong. Pay everybody the same, let their merchandise and social media/solo endeavours make the extra $$. I mean, it sounds crazy, it might not be right but it's not wrong. Obviously the people who make the company the most money will still remain at the top. It makes sense from a "wrestling business" perspective. Pay everybody 250-500k a year on the roster, throw the title on the million dollar players that sell the merch, hit the ratings up when they're on tv, go put in the extra work for the interviews, social media promotion, and dailyshow/ESPN segments to attract more viewers/money to the brand... the hardest workers and biggest personalities remain on/grow to the top, the duds will be duds.. let's be honest, if this were the case the actual talents fans liked and wanted (Bryan, enzo, punk, aj, asuka, etc) would rightfully be the top players while the handpicked talent would be at the mid card where they should. Vince loves money, if rybacks opinion on this matter was the case vince would no doubt throw the money maker on the top of the card. Rather than forcefully push and invest into 1 guy solely because he's already invested millions into that 1 guy nobody likes.
@@haroldhall1517 that's a fair argument but some fans go to shows or tune in to see certain wrestlers. I dont buy merchandise but when I did use to watch it's because I wanted to see guys who could actually put on a show. Ryback was just a poor man's goldberg
Ryback had a problem, like Jim said about Batista "He has to be a top guy, with a look like that he cant be taking arm drags in the second match" He was too big to be an opening match guy, and he wasn't talented enough to be in the main event.
Ryback was pretty okay but he definitely was just a guy with a body type that got pushed only because of that, he wasn’t the best at wrestling/promos but i definitely didn’t see ryback being the future of wwe at the time point.
That's how it always was. Vince was always infatuated with the bigger physique guys and that's who are the ones that usually got the pushes. Still pretty much true today
That’s the issue with the guy. He can’t accept what he really was. He was a guy who only made jr because of his physique. It took him almost 6 years to even make it out of developmental. And be realistic if he didn’t have that look he wouldn’t have had six years to make it to the main show. And he got the main event push right away and he got it in his head that’s where he always belonged. Because all layer comparisons he makes about creative or money all compare to that short time period. He was a body guy and nothing more who got it in his head that he was the best and never accepted himself honestly for where his talents actually were.
Came here to say this: If he doesn't eat 10k calories a day, I'd be STUNNED. That's a 5 day work week worth of high quality food every day. I feel for ryback, just TINY bit. he's at great risk of personal injury driving as well as spending tons of time working to be able to do work. I'm indifferent to him as a wrestler, he filled a random steroid guy role (no one that is in any physical sport, you KNOW he was on steroids and you KNOW that body needs ten thousand calories a day to keep up) I totally see why a person would say "I've already made 20 years worth of money and I also realize that the WWE makes huge sums of money while each wrestler drives, assessing HUGE risk of personal injuries (remember this: DELIVERY DRIVERS die at as high of a rate as police officers in many areas of the US. Being on the roads is a real level of risk)...I'd say fuck it, too if I didn't have something going on.
There is no fucking way this guy was spending 150,000 a year. For one this guy was injury prone as hell and when you suffer an injury with the WWE they don't pay your ass! That is well documented. The WWE adds months and extra time to a contract when a person is hurt as well to make up for what they lost. So at any point and time when Ryback was hurt he was sitting at home making nothing. He was a tough enough contestant and suffered a rib injury and bronchitis during that time. He was than suspended by the WWE after they signed him and stuck him in developmental for a year for failing a drug test. So there is no way he was getting paid for that! He was than part of the Nexus angle and he wrestled for 6 or 7 months when he broke his ankle and was out for over a year and half. He had 3 surgeries! Injury means no pay! He returned in January 2012 and actually managed to stay injury free for about 2 years until he had to have hernia surgery which kept him out until the end of October. He than wrestled the next year and half October 2014 to Summer 2016 injury free and left because of a contract dispute. There is no fucking way the WWE offered him 500,000 a year with his history of injuries and his history of hurting people. The WWE decided to scale back on any push for Ryback after he gave a stiff clothesline to Dolph Ziggler that resulted in a concussion. Ryback was labeled backstage as being unsafe. That was before CM Punk said anything. Dolph was hurt in January 2014 and Punk's interview and comments about Ryback came out in November 2014. Ryback is full of shit!
@@spacequack5470 they have a base salary which every pro wrestler gets. They are responsible for taking care of everything as they are independent contractors. If a wrestler is hurt and can’t make live appearances, they don’t get paid! If you’re out too long the wrestlers merch sales suffer and if it’s too long, people forget and they move nothing! Ryback was never a massive merch mover or a big draw. If he was the moment he left wwe someone would have picked him up. I don’t know any business that pays you when you get suspended for things like failed drug test either. He was earning a base salary and as I said before no way he was spending 150,000 a year! Especially for how injury prone he was and for his failed drug test. And as was pointed out he wasn’t happy with his downside deal so wwe let him walk. How’s he doing now? Did he ever retire for his failed Punk prediction!
@@gamechanger700 As long as you have a prescription for steroids or HGH you are good to go. It's not considered a strike if you have a script for whatever meds you test positive for. That's the simple loophole in the Wellness Policy.
HGH would be the most expensive, at over 300 pounds of solid muscle id say you're pretty close to that. Would be going through amounts of gear that Mr.Olympia competitors take at that rate.
To everyone questioning why 150k isn't a lot of money. Hotel costs, trip costs(vehicle and airfare), food costs, and money to be sent home. That's before you add in gym costs and personal money. Hotel 120-160 Trip 100-150(pending on the destination) Gym 30-60 Food 40-80 87k-135k before tax, so round those up to 95k-145k(knowing nothing about taxes). And then you have your family to take care of, insurance taxes on house and cars, medical. 150k is chump change in that world. At bare minimum if your on the main roster 250k should be the baseline amount if your on the road 300 days a year. This doesn't even touch if your one of the power lifters who has to constantly eat to maintain mass. Brian Shaw(Worlds Strongest Man) was eating nearly 700 dollars a week to keep up his size.
@@jakeh6980 Not when your travelling and don't have a ton of options. Not everyone is as anal as Cornette is when it comes to a proper travelling schedule/route.
He admitted in an interview he prefers to drive by himself so he can eat where he want and then spent 120$ at panera bread and he has a rep for eating nonstop but even at that it’s still a lot per day
See these conversations are kinda bullshit because as an independent contractor you get reimbursed for travel expenses, meals and other things when you file your taxes. It’s so disingenuous that they never mention that.
Nathaniel Baxter dude you can write all of that off on your taxes. Food, fuel, car rentals, lodging. You just have to keep recites and itemize. You’re a clueless fucking idiot but a simple DuckDuckGo search would help you not look like a fool. Try it
Nathaniel Baxter I’m sorry I made you look like a dummy and all but you should really do some research. Trying to call me 3rd grade names after I made you look foolish is indicative of the type of uneducated hick you are.
I heard him make an argument once about merch that was smart but nothing since . In the old days babyfaces bought their gimmicks to sell and if they were smart business men they gave the heels they were programmed with a small taste . That encouraged the heels to keep putting them over . Ryback made a poorly worded argument for something similar in WWE ....at least that is what I thought he meant . I couldn't be exactly sure but I try to put people in their best light .
I think ryback has a point. if you were told to win or lose, it's the office protocol. even if you have talent and a hard worker, you can't get a push unless it's management decision. any extra income you get comes should come off merch sales, public apperances, etc. cm punk put undertaker over at wrestlemania. I dont really know how business is supposed to work. But the way I see it: if you are in a match with a draw, you should get paid the same, or come to some sort of agreement to know where you stand. on the other hand jim has a point. I don't need to spend 600 dollars a day. I can't even make that much a day. a motel 6 is good enough for me!!
Ryback was literally all look. He was the 80's inspired "wrassler." He was a vaudeville act essentially; you can only push that so long before people get over it. He literally was a reincarnation of The Ultimate Warrior and every other cliche wrestler of the past. Small moveset, quick matches, big muscular physique, rage induced promos, etc.
No that isnt what I said what I said was Ryback was a poor knock off of the stereotypical wrestler from the 80's. In the 80's they were gold, but when someone overembelishes them it's terrible. Also that isnt me in my profile pic....
They did for the most part you're going to tell me people like hogan and warrior had vast movesets with extended matches? But in that time with the sincerity of it it was great ryback was not great
I saw him in my gym wearing a Brooklyn shirt. Had no idea at all who he was and asked him if he was from NYC? Said "No" but he's been there a million times and was given the shirt
No to mention the fact that now you can get hotel and airfare plus rental cars for a low price. My mother is a travel agent so this is coming from her, however with all the traveling he does why not look into getting something like that. He could have purchased a package where all of that will be included. This is not the bloody 80's give me a break.
ha it came out it was sunny who had an unlimited credit card and was taken Shawn Michaels and Kevin Nash Scott Hall 1-2-3 kid all out for breakfast on her card and they eventually took it away from her 😂🤷
Owen and Foley spending the least amount on the road is smart but having other people buy your meals for you and catching rides with other people so you don't spend any money is like I said can be seen as smart but its also being a dead beat. I'm not buying your meal for you and if you don't put in on this rent a car you can keep on knocking but you can't get in
@@ledzeppelinfan1001 I didn't know that freeloaders were so popular. If I asked people for things more and figured out a way to save every penny would make me popular. I didn't know that.
Anyone know where that image of Jim came from? I see it all the time but cannot remember if it was a match or if it was a promo he did that face. Anyone know?
A video he made a year ago, he mentioned that he basically likes to travel alone because he likes keeping a certain schedule and being in charge of his travel time
Ryback always felt like he was created by the merch department. All smoke and no fire. Just big musicles and dumb catchphrases. No real wrestling ability, no interesting character or storylines, even his finishers sucked. Hes very much in the same Leauge as Del Rio for me. Although at least Notable Prick Alberto Del Rio was a somewhat compelling heel.
I like Corny , always have , but sometimes he is hypocritical . Being very liberal he supports the rich kicking in the taxes they owe ....then says Ryback is an idiot if he pays 40% ? He says he cannot work in wrestling anymore on the priciple that what they office demands of him is not good business .... then criticizes Ryback for refusing a big money contract when its against his principle that he does so ? I do not like Ryback , never have , but you cannot have your cake and eat it too .
I never got Ryback, personally. All he's ever really hit me off as was being the probable result of a WWE creative team member getting baked one day and asking, "Hey, what if we gave Snitzky a beard and a bald wig?". The guy's not a wrestler
The guy is 315lbs of muscle he prob eats 100 dollars worth of food a day..... at least no matter if he roided up or not you still have to eat eat and eat some more
I would pay certain referees more than certain "superstars" ... Legends like Joey Marella, Mike Chioda, the Hebners, Tim White, Charles Robinson, Jimmy Courderas etc...deserve way more than talent that nobody cares about. Ryback was pretty hard to watch. There are others like him still out there. They all come and go. The "Feed me more" thing was ridiculous. Reminds me of a dollar tree Ultimate Warrior 😂
80 on food 80 hotel(not every hotel is cheap) jim doisnt fly jim dosent drive far 80 to 120 for the car So he was about half right. But still though,asking for that much more a day,plus he has to fly and pay that dosent he?
Hotel room at most - 180/day Food at most- 100/day Car at most-100/day including gas So almost 400 bucks a day hes not far off but who knows how he is traveling prolly 1st class nicest cars best hotel rooms and fanciest restaurants
I think the hotel would be 250 at least. I mean if you're being seen on raw pretty much every week your not gonna wanna stay at the Ramada and you're in big cities not cheap ass nowhere towns
Wrestlers work about 200 days a year so multiply that by your figure of $400 a day and it comes up to $80,000 annually for their own travel expenses. This means that Ryback is spending nearly twice what a typical wrestler would pay for on travel...and he has the gall to complain about it. He must think he works for WCW circa late 90's and is worthy of earning a seven figure salary.
@@darinlunderman8063 he is in the 7 figures from just doing podcast and promoting his supplement company so in hindsight he is right, it not worth killing himself for 6 figures paycheck.
@@demoth The point is, Ryback dares to feel indignant about intentionally spending more money than he should have when he could have simply managed his money better and got what he needed...rather than what he wanted. Nobody made him spend his alleged figure of $150,000 but he'd rather fault the WWE for it than accept responsibility for his own damn habits. Making more money in other ventures just seems to have him doubling down on his entitled mindset. Some guys in wrestling give and have gave more than him but made less money and got less lasting-success out of it. If he "killed" anything, its his own image.
It's strange that people say all the muscled wrasslers are steroided up or on growth hormones, but, there's several guys floating around where I live that are, some of em, bigger than lots of wrasslers & it's all natural & a few are college kids... A friend of mine years ago was huge, but, all he did was work out constantly as it helped his depression.. It just took over too much of his time to the point he looked like a brick wall lol..
“...ive never seen a Ryback match?” Wtf with the assumptive Goldberg comparisons? Go back and check out his work with Cena for Christ Sake! I mean he wasnt fuckin Stone Cold but for a big guy he got around pretty decent. Corny would prolly say he was as stiff as Nikita or the Road Warriors - and also wouldve done better at during that era
You can push Ryback til the cows come home but he won't get over . Its not like pushes get people over . You can get over better if once you are over they give you the right push . Vince does not make stars he showcases them .
I'm a fan of Ryan Reeves but the character of Ryback was boring as hell. He was simply a Body Guy. His look was all he had going and that look was created Chemically. I understand why he thinks EVERYONE should make the same, but it's not practical. You CANNOT pay Orton 1 Million a year and pay kalisto the same. That's ridiculous. And his complaints about not making enough money in wwe.... Anyone who spends $600 a day on FOOD, that person deserves to be BROKE ! He complained that wwe doesn't cover travel expenses... That is true. But it CLEARLY states in a wwe talent contract that he/she is a INDEPENDENT CONTRACTOR. NOT AN EMPLOYEE. That does need to change but in reality it won't because there's no union for WWE Wrestlers. And none of them will ho on strike to get q union because yhey know they'll be fired instantly. I follow Ryback on RU-vid, but in my opinion Ryback thought he was on the same level as John Cena and Rock when in reality hd was upper mid carder at BEST.
Was Jim saying Ryback didn't deserve it or Punk? Yeah Punk was a big draw,ok🙄 Anyway I believe Ryback spent that much just food alone. The guy was always eating. He tells a story about when he was still Skip Sheffield about Al Snow being annoyed at how much he ate during the day. Why Al Snow cared I never got but every time he was about to eat something Al Snow would start chasing him and yelling at him.
yes, jim deliberately being dumb here as wrestlers gotta pay out of pocket for gear. Ryback blasted the most gear in the wwe and taking similar doses to pro bodybuilders which would've cost a fortune. Still not making excuses for the goof who was a cheap goldgerg knock off and the only thing he did copy correctly was being green and injuring talent.
What about when Ryback I said he was selling more merch than Cena but Vince took away all his merch? Lol believe me if your selling merch like that Vince is your new best friend Austin said that on a podcast his words were when you start getting hot in the business your with Vince everywhere I don’t think RybackI was selling that much merch at all He was a midcarder at best
His entire income come from merchs now since hes no longer wrestling so hes selling something. He gone on record saying he making more money now than he ever did while under wwe.
