Jim Cornette Talks About Dave Meltzer's Recent Comments About Him 

This was the beginning of the end of Meltzer and Cornette friendship.

Its crazy to listen to the in 2023 and hear Jim say he liked the Young Bucks personally at any point!!

"Couldn't whip cream with an outboard motor" is definitely my new favorite Corny-ism

This aged like fine wine

Dave Meltzer is just as credible as someone who believes that jazz hands could actually beat up someone in real life

What happened to the Dave Meltzer from "Wrestling with Shadows" who scoffed at the idea of a diaper match?

19:35 Brian was right all along.

Dave Meltzer lives in his mom's basement and eats hot pockets and his boogers

“Boiled in oil and have his fat sold for soap” 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Hey yooooo!

I never saw the Dynamite Kid do anything that looked blatantly phony.

Why do people hang onto every one of Diamond Dave Meltzer's words like it came down from the heavens?

I tried to watch Ring of Honor recently and was extremely disappointed. It just looked like choreography and gymnastics, not wrestling.

Dave is a "smart" mark. He knows everything about the wrestling business except for what it takes to be successful and help it flourish.

I’m on cornette’s side here, you really can’t argue or defend that phony crap against logic

You know. There's no point in putting a child in a wrestling spot. They aren't trained. If the child is injured, the promotion is sued.

At this point, every Joey Ryan wrestling match is just a vanity project for him.

Did he say Chuck Taylor looks like he couldn't whip cream with an out-board motor? Holy hell. CAUTION: DO NOT LISTEN TO A CORNY RANT WHILE DRIVING......

meltzer is a mark and charges ppl for rumors and sometimrs totally made up stories.

Cornette is on point here. Good stuff.

this might be the most complimentary corny was ever to Omega and the Bucks 😂

No, Jim Cornette and Dave Meltzer can't be fighting, i have the wrestling gold collection both did commentary for years ago, my opinion it's still the best wrestling collection out there.

Well, Meltzer invented a 6 star rating for the sole purpose of showcasing Omega even harder...

If Meltzer says bad about Cornette for being biased, tell him to look in the mirror. Meltzer give 5+ star opinions on his Indy and japan matches if they include Kenny Omega, the Young Bucks, etc lol.

I decided to call “Uncle Dave” out his B/S on Twitter... And I’ll be... I won the Pony. He blocked me.....

So relieved to hear Cornette not walking anything backwards despite his respect for Meltzer. With that being said, it is my opinion that has so much love for Meltzer because Corny was one of Meltzer's sources through the years and therefore can't very well bury Meltzer because it would make Corny look like a goof if it were to ever be confirmed that he was a source. I also think Bruce Prichard was/is one of Meltzer's sources.

Cornette is right. These guys wrestle in front of 300 fans. He's in it to make money.

Joey Ryan “Superheroes aren’t real” Yeah and I guarantee if Hollywood writers made Batman or Ironman do something insanely stupid the fans outrage would be immense so that’s a terrible example

I just went and searched Joey Ryan and this "manly parts" toss as up till now never heard of or for that matter seen it. If that is what passes as wrestling today, glad I stopped watching wrestling around 1990'. But then this "manly parts" toss makes the silly crap sold as wrestling in 1990 seem like the best of the best of classic wrestling. I was willing to accept that Corney's claim that wrestling is dead could be subjective but now I think Corney is being very objective in his proclamations.

I think Jim should check out NXT UK sometime. There's a lot less of the flippy stuff (compared to other shows), more emphasis on impact and realism, and the crowd's way more into the matches. Oh, and Walter, of course. I've never been 100% on board the hype train for Kenny Omega and the Young Bucks, and I have to be in a special mood to sit through a whole NJPW show. It's not that I don't like it, it's just a lot to take in through one sitting.

Meltzer, Cornette and "recent"; best RU-vid search ever

Jim speaks nothing, but truth

Jim has a point, to an extent, with some of the blatant stupidity that happens on indie wrestling; Joey Ryan's spots are embarassing, and some of the comedy stuff that PWG puts into their otherwise "legit" matchs is way over the top. But, Jim also acts like it's impossible to have an intentionally "fake" wrestling match. Kenny Omega "wrestling" a girl isn't destroying the wrestling business any more than the Harlem Globetrotters destroyed basketball, or martial arts exhibitions destroy MMA. When everyone involved goes into the match openly acknowledging that you're about to watch an *exhibition*, where Omega is going to put on a show match vs. a girl or a doll not because he wants to pretend he's fighting a girl, but because he wants to show off his (and her) skills, I don't see why that's a problem.

Bottom line, no wrestler is above the business. There is a place for comedy wrestling, but you cannot portray yourself as a comedy wrestler one day and then as a serious wrestler the next. That being said, the wrestling business is already exposed. That cat is out of the bag.

VIVA CORNETTE

To "not understand" why people like the Ultimate Warrior is pretty stupid. He was entertaining. He was fun to watch. He brought a ton of energy. Just to name a few. If you were a kid then that was what wrestling was about. That's why people were fans of him.

Keep in mind that, just because it's happening now, doesn't mean it's good.

At first I thought this was before he discovered Omega vs a child because he was a lot nicer here than some of his recent thoughts lol

PWG isnt pro wrestling because they willfully turn down potential ticket sales by booking that same bingo hall. if they arent working, what the fuck are they doing?

love listening to cornette talk

Look at meltzer's office. Jesus christ what a mess.

Maybe It was the Holy Grenade from Monty Python?

meltzer roles with it because if he doesnt he's out of a job, thats why he's moaning.

Jim Cornette would be a NXT and NXTUK and NWA guy, he would enjoy that kind of wrestling, they tell actual stories in the ring and use in ring Phyisology, and they do what is missing today in pro wrestling they sell, they have everything great storytelling, Technical wrestling, amature wrestling, strong style, some MMA influences, and great promos, and some Highspots. They don't over do it with the spot fests....they do it only twice or 3 times in one night.

Didn't think I would click on a 7 year old video and hear the name Chuck Taylor. Dude has been failing for longer than I realized

We're all entitled to our opinions

Holy shit i forgot i got to see Tiger mask vs Mr.w2 in tulsa thank you for jogging my memory

1. Thank you for calling out the Bucks of Youth and their "super" kick which they have to do 7 - 8 times per match. Real f-in super. 2. If Wayne Rooney can keep a United contract then I have to say just about anyone can play for them.

The Corn knows

This shit has really been going on for 5 long years. Good lord how do these dudes still get booked.

Wow....Jim must REALLY hate Kenny Omega's chainsaw spot. Where he supposedly shaves his forearms a couple days before a match, so just hard stubble grows back & he rakes it across an opponent's eyes.

It has long puzzled me why anyone cares, at all, what Dave Meltzer says. He's just a wrestling fan, not a wrestler.

What was the issue with Dynamite vs Tiger?

Meltzer went nuts bc it’s how he makes a living. He has to prop up these shitty outlaw promotions to have fodder for his newsletter. Pretty much everyone I know who is still a fan watches WWE, TNA, Lucha Undrground, the new NWA, etc and just complains how it sucks. Classic wrestling is pretty much all I watch. Fucking invisible hand grenades. 3 Stooges antics. I can’t watch that shit either.

After all this hubub about the grenade spot, I have to ask. Is there a way to get Cornette to watch the IWRG ladder match from a couple years ago? The one with LA Park, Doc Wagner Jr, Alberto Del Rio's brother, Pirata Morgan, Mascara Sagrada and the fattest clown to ever get rolled into a wrestling ring? I am positive that would be the best 40 minutes ever put on a stream

the crowd like the spots, they're the real critics

Now he can't stand the ground the young bucks walk on or the air the hardly boyz breathe

Didn't know what the invisible grenade was. Googled it and watched one. It is probably the dumbest thing that I've ever seen in wrestling entertainment. The one finger death poke was even more entertaining than that. Why would fans tolerate that BS? So stupid.

Didnt Stone Cold ride a bicycle to the ring or something like that one time??

The grenade spot started in Chikara

Majority of what he's saying is legitimate and makes sense, but getting upset they dropkicked the kid for his birthday in front of people is sorta asinine. Everyone in the world over 10 knows wrestling is staged and fake so if they did a good job of making it seem legit then that shows talent I guess

I wonder what Cornette would think about the Osirian Portal's hypnosis/most illegal thing in wrestling spot. Say what you will it was pretty funny.

Chuck Taylor slow Motion spot is the best thing I've seen in wrestling. Much better than beach ball mania. Look it up. It's awesome

I saw Joey Ryan vs Grado...you can imagine how that was.

Michael Richards using N word not ok.Blacks making fun of whites during their shows is ok

the organization made kenny do that. he didn't do that on his own. why isn't he burying the company?

Pretty much anyone can play for Manchester United these days

This didn't age well. 😆😂

Jim is cruel but fair.

🌽. 🌽, its whats for dinner. More 🌽 please. Long live the 🌽. Pass the 🌽. 🌽, the other other white meat.

I disagree with Cornette about everyone looking stupid at the comedy club because Keith Richards or whatever the Hell his name is that Seinfeld dude using the n-word. While I agree often when it comes to wrestling with Cornette I disagree with his collective mindset.

tell um jim...i dont like kenny omega either..............especially after the blow up doll and the little children which is depravedif i was jim i might be saying maybe i better start picking my friends a little bit more closely

I can understand it being stupid. But did the people in attendance have a problem with it? They are catering to a certain audience.

I love how the internet turned all these old wrestling dudes in to highschoolers. lol. I like Jim. I just find it hilarious how everyone is always feuding with everyone when 20 years ago a lot of these guys would have been friends with some rare exceptions.

Cornette is the most intelligent man in wrestling. Reluctant, old-fashioned, set in his ways but understands the fundamentals of the business better than anyone else. Dave Meltzer is a fucking mark. Brilliant in how he figured out a way to make living talking about something scripted but his opinion shouldn't matter anymore than the local newstand guy or the kid with only one testicle from a few comments below.

I perfectly called it when Jim was gonna say "He did these things in a 100% comedy promotion years ago. So he's horrible" ... Does Jim know that Kenny wasn't the DDT booker? Cause he wasn't.... He didn't book the matches... He was told to wrestle the little girl and the blow up doll....

I miss the 80s as well. I had never heard of or seen Joey Ryan, Kenny Omega, etc. I looked them up subsequently and that's not pro-wrestling. That's Pajama Boy Promotions.

Cornette Classic

I'm glad guns are legal in usa otherwise Jim Cornette would not be allows to talk and we wouldn't be enjoying his podcast !

I like Jimmy but anyone who uses a ether spot in the 2010's in a promotion like Ring Of Honor and expects fans to buy it is seriously behind the times. What worked in 1970's Tennessee (which had its share of business exposing garbage) won't work with an audience in 2017.

I miss the 80s too man...gotta let it go though.

Jim agrees that wrestling is subjective and in the next 2 minutes says that he doesn't like Kenny Omega because of "the stupid shit he did in wrestling" with zero fucking sense of irony.

imo its all for publicity..look at the attention they getting. I really believe they friend now..behind the scenes...both cutting gold promos

Is this the nexus of Dave defending shit?

Kenny omega is disqualified, lmfao.

I watched the clip i can't believe it but the grenade thing is real

#DirtSheet

Meltzer just panders to the fans.

oh boy....

Also, if I were Dave, the one guy I would not want to debate wrestling with would be Jim. Being IN the business and BLOWING everyone in the business for information are completely different lifestyles.

Meltzer on next week good to know i wont have to listen. Dave takes 10mins to say 1 sentence

oh and wwe having someone dressed up as a bear on a child's trike going into a match is more accessible than a PWG show? I don't understand that logic

To be fair Michael Richards only went on that tirade AFTER the asshole he was screaming the n word at had been HECKLING him throughout the show and had been asked to stop multiple times. The thing is if you're at a public event like a concert wrestling match or comedy show and you're actively trying to be a trouble making sack of shit by throwing shit at the stage heckling the comedian or trying to get on the ramp or in the ring you absolutely deserve whatever happens to you weather it means other fans/security beating the fuck out of you or getting called obscene names because its your own fault that it happened.

Dave meltzer is a bias hype beast

PWG sells out in seconds PWG draws PWG is good for wrestling Young Bucks sell out everywhere they go, sells tons of merch, and Matt set up one of War Machine for the Meltzer driver. Cornette needs to realize that the BUSINESS has changed. His 70s vision of how things should be Those outlaw promotions = more eyes on wrestling. WWE is losing fans by the thousands

Poor Uncle Dave! :''0

I don’t like todays style and thus I don’t watch it. It doesn’t really bother me to expose the business or what not just because to me I think it’s pretty clear that people know what wrestling is now. That said I agree that a believable product is better to watch than what the modern guys do now but I guess I just gave up on being a fan who follows the product regularly again unfortunately. It seems wrestling as a whole has passed me by for the most part and that kinda stinks. But I don’t think the Bucks or Kenny were ever the same level of embarrassing as Joey Ryan was. The Bucks and Kenny were always more so just not my style over making me ashamed of wrestling I guess. Joey Ryan on the other hand I just never understood. For the Bucks or Kenny even if they weren’t my taste I could at least see why others may like what they do and move past it. Joey is one I can’t understand why someone could ever be a fan of. Sadly I kinda get why he did what he did because it was a way to get to a position to make some money in the ancillary of wrestling doing his goofy thing and if my choice was struggle to survive or make a comfortable living I can’t confidently say I wouldn’t do something like that too. But we now know he crashed hard and likely will never wrestle at any level to make a living again after the accusations and how big of a douche he was about handling them to boot. At least the Bucks or Kenny seem like ok people who just aren’t my style whereas Joey was clearly a prick and deserves what happened to him.

Old man yells at cloud

Omega.naito and okada is fucking living legends!

I respect Jim's opinion and insight on a lot of things, and I even get what he says when he talked about underdeveloped talents resorting to flippy moves without developing the basics. There's definite nuance in some of what he says, but the problem is that he throws a lot of that nuance out the window arbitrarily. He can be rather inconsistent with himself and where he allows compromises with his opinions. The way he insists on maintaining some sort of "reputation" for the wrestling business, and the way he insists that comedy wrestling and flippy wrestling aren't evolutions of the sport, it all just feels way outdated and out of touch, as much as he may have a few good points about them. I think the key issue around this whole debate is really the question of whether kayfabe is dead, whether it should stay dead, or whether it should continue to cling on for dear life in today's wrestling scene. The way I see it, unironic kayfabe can still have its place in some storylines. But the days in which it was treated as a protected concept and universal standard of work ethic for wrestling is long gone, and in its place we have the more flexible concept of suspension of disbelief. Audiences don't just mark themselves out wholesale to the entirety of wrestling these days. They're able to actually think for themselves and choose where their own suspension of disbelief is being stetched too far or not, and that's just something Jim never gives enough wrestling fans (even casual fans) credit for. All this demonization of Kenny Omega's early work in DDT, or the Young Bucks' superkicks, or Joey Ryan's comedy wrestling. All of Jim's arguments about those would be moot points if he could just comprehend the way suspension of disbelief applies these days in wrestling, over traditional kayfabe.

The problem is that Cornette DOESN"T seem to accept that wrestling is subjective. He routinely takes a "my way or the highway" approach and that's what rubs a lot of people the wrong way about what he has to say about this stuff. Additionally, he makes himself look extremely out of touch when he acts like all of these indie guys are nobodies when they're some of the most popular and in demand indie workers in the world and make as much money as a lot of the WWE guys and uses antiquated and obsolete terms like "outlaw promotion" At least 3 of the guys in that PWG match he criticized regularly appear on national television and 2 or 3 more have worked for WWE. They're not just indie guys getting "a few bookings". Jim has been an incredible talent who's forgotten more about wrestling than most people will ever know, but it's sad that he's let his''inability to be flexible consign him to a point where there's no longer a place where he can use those skills.