Definitely first degree murder , phycho bastard, the defense lawyer rubbing his shoulders after the verdict, I wonder would she like to face him with his hammer outside the courtroom ,
First degree murder is murder which is planned and deliberate. ... Second degree murder is defined as all other murder other than first degree murder. So, if you do not plan and you do not deliberate about it but you still intend to kill someone, that is second degree murder.
Stuart Butler I know, I just commented how she is patronizing him after the verdict. Sick sick woman to coddle him like that. She’s too involved where she probably believed he was innocent.
This jury has to be the dumbest bunch of people I've seen of a jury in a VERY long time. This was absolutely 1st degree murder. Unbelievable. At LEAST, they found him guilty on second degree murder which can also carry a sentence of life in prison, per Florida law.
@@Raimond799 this Rogers guy is clearly DUMB, so yea I could absolutely see him telling everyone. I believe he knew EXACTLY what he was going for. I'll be happy if the judge gives him life. Or at minimum 40 years. I still can't believe that beautiful Theresa is gone. I want EVERYONE to pay but the ONE I want to see rot??? Mark. Can't wait till he has his day. I thank God for Curtis Wright. He took responsibility for HIS actions and will help prosecute Mark, just as he did to Jimmy.
Raimond799 Agree- he could've been setup to be a patsy for Wright & Sievers. Personally didn't believe any of Wright's testimony. Taylor Shomaker's testimony wasn't credible either.
@@mimikay5421 I'm sorry but I absolutely disagree. Curtis Wright has NOTHING to lie about. He pleaded guilty and accepted responsibility for HIS actions. Unlike the little punks Jimmy & Mark. I hope the judge hands him life. Jimmy knew what he was going their for and he knew how much money he was making on it. Oh, and let me remind you how Taylor came onto this and why she is absolutely believable. When Jimmy confessed to her she's the one who turned him in. She was pregnant and had to face that alone. She lost her house and car but knew she would if she turned him in and she did it anyway.
Not true. It doesn’t do any good to get overly emotional when you obviously don’t understand the law. Rodgers did not conspire or plan this murder. He never once contacted Sievers and barely knew him....it was Sievers and Wright all the way. Rodgers may be a psychopath who enjoyed killing Teresa Sievers, but that’s not the legal definition of first degree murder. They followed the first degree murder checklist to the letter, and it was obvious to me, at least, in the other charges that Rodgers did not bring a weapon with him, he didn’t steal anything, so all he did was trespass, according to the legal definition. I’m certain, the victim’s family understood this, and realize that he got life without parole. THE END.
OH MY GD, what just happen??? This is why I stop watching jury trials, these juries are afraid, as far as I am concerned, of their own shadows! Poor woman, no justice :(
Someone said... look online at the comments.....how many people operate as trolls, or on baseless opinion instead of proven facts, and realise that is why the jury system cannot function well.
David Haney Jurors have to go by the evidence & instructions. Both Wright & Shomaker had strikes against their credibility. I believed most of what they said but could I say with complete confidence it was all true? No. I would have voted 1st degree murder with burglary but can understand why all the jurors might not have . In my opinion , JRR is a sick, stone cold killer who got lucky.
@@ErikS- Interesting assumption, but I did, in fact, watch the entire trial. I'm going on the facts of this case. I do not see how you get second degree murder and *trespassing* ,and a total NG on conspiracy, when you look at the big picture. Florida juries. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
First degree murder is murder which is planned and deliberate. ... Second degree murder is defined as all other murder other than first degree murder. So, if you do not plan and you do not deliberate about it but you still intend to kill someone, that is second degree murder.
@@ErikS- It's one thing to watch the entire trial. It's another thing to be intelligent enough to put the pieces together and see the whole picture, which you clearly weren't.
Thankfully the judge will be in charge of sentencing this guy. The Judge even seemed stunned by the verdict. At one point towards ther end he even says: "oh, 2nd degree? I thought it was 1st...." Yeah, me too! But I hope the judge still gives life with a minimumof 25 years, and that the victim's family shows up at any parole hearing be has to make sure he never gets out. This was a ridiculous, uneducated, pathetic jury who should all be ashamed with themselves.
Apparently the jury thinks he basically just stood and watched while Wright committed the murder. Let's assume for a minute that is true. There's a video of him at a convenience store right after the time of the murder. He's laughing and joking with the cashier and clearly on a high. He's not horrified at what he just witnessed and has no problem with what he saw. He's totally fine with it. No conscience at all. This same video also shows he changed his clothes before and after the time of the murder. I hope the pros makes this video the centerpiece of her argument at sentencing to get him the max.
His defense toward the end of the video after the verdict is patronizing this murderer. She acts like he is innocent. No, miss defense lady, he was just found guilty of hammering the death of a beloved doctor, mother, sister, friend and friend. I have zero compassion for him.
WTF 2nd degree.. Yes I hope the jury explains why they ruled out 1st degree...I really hope he gets the full 25 years and his life behind bars is unbearable
Silent/unspoken Juror politicking; state shafted us by making a deal with Wright...so we'll stick it to them too! Making a deal with the devil always has its draw back and thus the jury acts upon it. Seen it time and time again, all it takes is one pouting Juror to spoil the batch.
@@jamesgentry13 Wrong. The block headed jury ignored the evidence of the fibre from Rodger's suit. And they ignored the testimony of TWO witnesses including Rodgers girlfriend.
I wonder if L&CN might in future number each individual showing for the viewers assistance. I have found it difficult to follow each sitting of this case and hope in future each video could have a number 1,2,3 and so on in addition to the date and part number ?
David Haney thanks, I am aware of this but one day they were put up with the wrong date and just think for simpletons like me number order would be so much easier to follow.
Brianna CC don’t feel your reply or comment is appropriate. We are not all as tech savvy as you. What would have been helpful would have been assistance in how to access the playlist ( from a seventy year old ).
Jacque I haven’t. We’re recording it on DVR. We have some more shows to watch first. I did hear that they wanted Julianna to make several guests appearances on the show, but they said she asked for too much money. Even though it was industry standard. Oh and a little dirt I read yesterday. The reason why calinda left the show is because her and Alicia didn’t like each other in real life. I hadn’t a clue.
My heart goes out to the family of Theresa. What a heartbreaking experience to go through, and right before Christmas. He looks confused. It's so surreal. He even bragged about it to his girlfriend, with a chuckle. If that's not evil I don't know what is. Thank God he won't be able to hurt anyone else.
Yeah, the worst was as traumatised as the children were, they then had to be put with a random family, whilst BOTH sets of grandparents went for temp custody and were assessed. Obviously Sievers mother got refused, but how rotten they had to also suffer being torn from their home and loved ones! 💔🙏
Wow...I'm left speechless, other than that I hope at sentencing they'll use less of a baby glove with him and give him more than that 15-20 years he so confidently thinks he's "good" with...I'm still mind-boggled how the jury decided second degree murder when all signs point to first and premeditated and conspiracy. Has Florida never heard of linear conspiracy? At least he *is* going to pay for his crime instead of being out and free while the family suffers. Who wants to bet when the family gives their impact statements, he's going to remain stone-faced and detached, as if their emotions are nothing but noise?
I could only what its like to loose a child. My heart goes out to the mom and the two girls. I lost both of my parents so I definitely understand how the girls would feel after loosing both of theirs.
I can understand the 2nd degree murder and the trespassing convictions, but I can't understand the not guilty for conspiracy charge. The elements for a conspiracy appear to have been met in this case, but I didn't see the entire trial and so I don't know if the jury had submitted questions or sought guidance on this charge.
Rodgers did not conspire or plan the murder. He did not know the victim, and walked into the house without a weapon. He may have brought the suits, and he may have done the worst damage to Sievers, _but he never conspired to commit murder in the legal sense._ If you don’t like that, I’m sorry, but the jury followed the law, which is supposed to be applied dispassionately, with clarity, following the conditions set on the form the jury has to fill out. His in prison for life, and that’s what matters.
I think you're right. There is no evidence tying him to the murder itself. No trace at all on his coverall. Him being happy and gullible on the way down, with his phone and taking pictures. Felony murder perhaps?
I am confused. If they didn't find him guilty of burglary, or of using a weapon, then under what grounds did they find him guilty of 2nd degree murder? U don't get 2nd degree murder for trespassing with no weapon. How do they think she died, exactly? This verdict makes no legal sense at all. I am a Harvard educated lawyer and I don't get it! Can someone familiar with FL law please explain this to me?
I'm not a lawyer at all, never mind a Harvard educated lawyer, but even I know he didn't have to swing the hammer to be guilty of murder. He was a willing participant in an operation whose purpose was to kill someone. That makes him as guilty as the guy who did swing the hammer.
MomentsInTrading if he gets 25 to life it basically means if and a very big if, he wanted to be considered for parole...he’d have to serve a minimum of 25 years first...very unlikely that he would get it...coming out in a box! Should have been convicted of first degree murder! Hopefully he got 25 to life.
Because he wasn’t found guilty of first degree murder, that’s why; the jury found him guilty of a lesser charge. The death penalty was then off the table, hence the “celebration.”
His lawyers are there to defend the system, to ensure he receives a fair trial and to ensure that the state proves its case consistent with the Constitution and the rules of evidence. Criminal defense lawyers despise the acts their clients are charged with, but they're not defending the acts. Everyone deserves a fair trial. Anything less is not constitutional justice. Better that 10 guilty men go free than one innocent man goes to prison.
@@320Scott I agree with everything you said, I just wouldn't want to be in his unrestrained proximity. He might do something dangerous like try to put out my eyes. I feel sorry for him, in that he was probably born with a predisposition for a lack of empathy and compassion. I'm glad there are those willing to represent him.
I've never seen anybody so expressionless. The only time his face ever changed was when his singing ex took the stand and admitted to accepting a 400 dollar monthly 'wage' from the Feds! Even then he only closed his eyes.
I really think that Jimmy is having a hard time understanding that he is going to jail for the rest of his life. The woman is trying to console him and explain, as are all the other men.
I think the jury had a tough job. My guess is that they had reasonable doubt as to who premeditated or hit her first or dealt the most injuries causing her death. My question is will Mark Sievers be right up there for first degree murder and the whole conspiracy now? Mark Sievers without a doubt ordered the murder of his wife. Looking forward to that trial. Hope they have a money trail. I missed a lot of this testimony.
Nice comment! From my novice analysis, the big question in this case is, was there enough evidence to prove beyond a reasonable doubt? There has been a lot of discussion that much of the evidence is circumstantial and based heavily on his bff’s testimony. I think perhaps the prosecution is going to go all out for 1st degree murder on the victim’s husband. But we’ll have to wait and see. Anyone who agrees to help kill someone with a hammer - of all things, needs to be in prison for the rest of their life. It’s just too heinous to accept anything less.
Giving the dude that confessed 25 years is understandable since he made a plea deal. Giving the husband the death sentence is also spot on. Giving Rogers only second degree makes no sense. The only possible explanation would be if he was only told by wright that they were going to rob the place. But that of course doesn't make sense of their actions
I'll add- That is a Defense strategy. If you followed this case, then you know that the Prosecution had a very strong case, and the Defense didn't really have anything. Therefore, what they try and do is present an image of their client to make it appear as if he would not be the type to commit a crime such as this. One way they do this is to try and make their client appear like he is one of the attorneys, including dressing like they do, and also taking notes during the testimony like the attorneys do. Having him go to the bench with the other lawyers helps fit that image. Also, it places him close to the person testifying against him, which is also a defense strategy- trying to make the witness look at or to be close to the accused to try and 'rattle' the witness some.
It sounds to me like the jury didnt think he did the actual killing at all. No blood on his jump suit. He was there though, thus the 2nd degree verdict
No, they knew he did the killing, _or else how did he get found guilty of second degree murder, hmmm??_ He just wasn’t guilty of first degree murder, and I was actually surprised he was charged....he was literally a tagalong. He didn’t conspire to kill, bc that was between the other two. He didn’t have either of Sievers’ phone numbers, never called him or contacted him in any way. He couldn’t have even found the house without Wright. He also didn’t bring a weapon with him, and he didn’t steal anything, so that left trespassing. Anyway, the important point is, he’s never getting out of prison, so it doesn’t matter what the jury decided he was guilty of.
@@voraciousreader3341 He didnt bring a weapon, he didnt steal, he didnt call mark, etc etc, and now he will never accompany anyone to assasinate anyone. he knew what they were going to do.
A cold blooded murderer got away with "murder". Should have got a hell of a lot more than what he got. He helped kill her other wise he would not have taken the hammer back with him. Unreal.
It is incredible. This guy looks like a low--key person. Little would anyone imagine him bludgeoning a woman to death with a hammer. It is frightening.
Wow I didn't see that coming.2nd degree??? I guess I need to know what the sentencing guidelines are for 22nd degree before I pluck out all my eyelashes. Would have loved to see Teresa family reaction
I new he was NOT going to get 1st I flipping new it he should of though for sure cause it was there but the Jury really did not understand what they had and what to use it was clear as day he new I feel so BAD for Dr. Teresa Sievers she DID NOT GET JUSTICE !!! she got half A'' '' JUSTICE God Bless her whole Family And I am so SORRY for what just happend to your whole family but I can say this GOD HATES UGLY and that's who Jimmy has to really answer to when it all comes down to it !
Under Florida law, burglary is a trespass, or forced entry with intent or actual commission of another crime, such as theft, or in this case a murder. Also, he did arm himself with a hammer which was later found. It was a first degree murder, because it was the sole purpose of why they went to the house, and wasn't there result of a robbery gone wrong, even then it could be classified as such under Florida law.
No they aren’t, YOU are. They didn’t say Rodgers didn’t use a weapon; they said _he didn’t BRING a weapon,_ and he didn’t! He was purely a secondary figure in this, and if you can’t see that, then I wonder about your ability level.
Justice was not served. Jimmy Rodgers should have been offered the plea deal. Going to get the same sentence as the plea offer was. He did not even know why he was there at first. Now, Curtis Wright and the husband should be facing the death penalty. Curtis Wright gets over on the system big time.
I’m confused. They said he DIDN’T arm himself with a weapon within the structure of the dwelling. What did she get killed with then? His grim smirk? The hammer, the hammer, the hammer! Hello!
No, rodgers didn’t bring a weapon into the house, he armed himself with something belonging there. He was not a conspirator, bc he didn’t even have Sievers’ phone number. He didn’t plan anything except for bringing the suits along, and even though he entered the house to kill Teresa Sievers, he wouldn’t have been able to even find the right house without Wright. When you compare his role with the other two, it should be very clear that he was guilty of second degree murder, not first degree, and when the jury followed the checklist, that’s what they found, as well. He didn’t steal anything, and he didn’t have the victim’s permission to be in the house, so he was trespassing. In my opinion, the jury got it right. The verdict is secondary to me, anyway....he’s in prison for life, that’s what matters!
@@voraciousreader3341 Without Rodgers, there would have been no anti contamination jumpsuits and gloves. HE brought those things along for the crime. THAT makes him part of the conspiracy.