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JK Inverter-BMS does not show consumption in Victron VRM. Whose fault? 

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In another test, I have connected the JK Inverter BMS to the Victron Venus OS and found that it does not show the consumption correctly. To find out more, I temporarily replaced the battery shelf with the Tower of Power and even let the JK BMS control my whole production system. After several hours of testing, I can still not find out if this is a problem with Victron or the JK BMS.
I have run the same test with the Seplos BMS V1 and V2 and also the Peter boards and it works without issues. All other BMS have failed so far to show the correct data...
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@Fergo101
@Fergo101 15 дней назад
Use your you tube power to push the makers of JK BMS’s to update their firmware.. I’d like this fixed.. it would make me consider using their BMS’s.
@jalpa9642
@jalpa9642 15 дней назад
88.3k Subscribers..... Congratulations on new increases.....! =)
@OffGridGarageAustralia
@OffGridGarageAustralia 15 дней назад
Thank you so much 😀
@danarawding5198
@danarawding5198 15 дней назад
Wow! I didn't even know that VRM displayed consumption! I've never seen it with or without DC System on. Made some changes to my settings tonight and still don't see it. Thanks for the great video as usual!
@craig8662
@craig8662 14 дней назад
Do you have Dynamic ESS ? No DC necessary
@danarawding5198
@danarawding5198 13 дней назад
@@craig8662 no ESS unfortunately.
@cmcb7931
@cmcb7931 13 дней назад
I have found the VRM a little inconsistent. I have DC and inverter running in ESS I only get the red bars for what has been used by the inverter but not the DC system. I even added a smartshunt as a DC meter but still not working. I am starting to think using the lynx shunt for the battery monitor is somehow causing issues or from some comments here the ESS helper on the inverter affecting the DC consumption record
@tujuprojects
@tujuprojects 3 дня назад
I have Pylontech battery and VRM has always displayed consumption. There is a reason why these haven’t been certified by Victron.
@blieven1
@blieven1 15 дней назад
The Jkbms doesn’t report consumedamphours, history charged energy & history discharged energy to the victron system via canbus. That’s probably the reason why you have missing data.
@OffGridGarageAustralia
@OffGridGarageAustralia 15 дней назад
Ah, that's a good starting point for me to investigate. Thanks for the info.
@mateuszmazur1482
@mateuszmazur1482 12 дней назад
I cold confirm it. Not at all those data in my case either. Communication via CAN.
@tujuprojects
@tujuprojects 3 дня назад
@@OffGridGarageAustraliayou need to invest to canbus-debugger and dive into can-frame level. Once you reveal this to people, JK have to react on that.
@OffGridGarageAustralia
@OffGridGarageAustralia День назад
@@tujuprojects wouldn't know where to start. I've got my fingers in too many projects already...
@tujuprojects
@tujuprojects День назад
@@OffGridGarageAustralia i just dusted off my can-analyzer and made savvycan rpm package for Fedora.
@zoe..d
@zoe..d 15 дней назад
Peter boards, jaki battery, tangalooooma etc. Tower of power = Andy Tongue Twister. Time to give it a Andy name. Im voting it gets called "Heinrich" Thumbs up anyone?
@richie4453
@richie4453 15 дней назад
Hi Andy. First time long time. I'm running 3 JK "inverter" BMS's. (200a). 1 multiplus 2, 3 victron smart solar mppt 150/100. All connected to a cerbo gx with "has dc" active. I show normal consumption independent of solar. I do have the JK bms controlling charge voltage but not current. This way the mppt will push as much current as load demands. I believe if you set controle current the mppt will only push what ever current your bms will demand. Hope this helps. Keep up the awesome productions. Thanks to you and all the information you provide I was able to setup a nice system at my house to offset my power bill.
@aha5888
@aha5888 15 дней назад
Maybe you should review all available bms and any upcoming then make a personal ranking base on certain purpose or criteria and which one is well rounded etc. Many would appreciate it.
@technician1974
@technician1974 9 дней назад
Hi Andy, you have several brands of bms and each one shows what it wants since there is no standard, I know that you are determined to know everything since you are worried about how each cell works but you will not be able to do anything with this since you cannot controlling how each battery is charged by the varied parallels that you have there, even if you use the same brand of BMS you are not going to achieve it, not even the Tesla you drive knows what happens in its 7000 cells, you know it and so do we.
@GregOnSummit
@GregOnSummit 15 дней назад
I have DC Power turned on, but using the Smart Shunt and Charge Controller to control monitoring. Consumption is there, along with forecasted consumption.
@alexsimmons1803
@alexsimmons1803 15 дней назад
Yeah, 1 June was pretty crummy solar weather here in Nthn NSW too. But it's been sunny ever since. :) I wonder about all these extra Victron systems and BMS comms, Peter boards etc - it seems overly and unnecessarily complex and expensive for what seems to be little gain. It's great you get into the weeds but so much $$$ for this stuff - I'm just not seeing the value for a DIY set up. I have Home Assistant, a smart shunt, server rack batteries (with PACE BMS), a big lead acid bank for backup, and an 8 kW *non*-Victron inverter/charge controller which works with Solar Assistant and Home Assistant. It's pretty much plug and play and at a fraction of the cost. I honestly don't care that much about the BMS provided it does its job, i.e. to protect the batteries from bad things, along with the fuses/breakers. I get all the data for monitoring/alerts as required but otherwise the fact they are a PACE BMS makes little difference to the performance of my system. Perhaps you can expand on the value/usefulness of all this extra complexity and cost?
@tyweb9264
@tyweb9264 11 дней назад
Hi Andy, Another great Video. I am NOT having the same issue. I have AC coupled Solar and DC coupled Solar, 3 out of the 4 batteries are using JK BMS, reporting to Victron through Can bus, I also Have a Vic Smart shunt that they all go through. I endabled DC system about 36hours ago and I am not getting the same issue, unitil my batteries become full, at which point the 2 x Fronius (AC coupled Solars) are backed off and the DC solar are shut off, or throttled to match the actual AC load. I sent you an email with a link to my VRM
@DarkShad03
@DarkShad03 15 дней назад
Yep, I noticed that the jkbms despite being in victron mode lacks a lot of data. No idea what kind of testing they do, but they're missing basic functionality.
@kelvincoffey3121
@kelvincoffey3121 15 дней назад
I’ve got 6 jk’s original. 5 show the data. One doesn’t. It’s a firmware issue.
@blacko3539
@blacko3539 15 дней назад
Have you tried changing the protocol to Pylontech/other compatible make? There was a recent bug with one of the JK firmware updates and Deye/Sunsynk inverters ,a quick work around was to change the JK BMS to the pylontech protocol and everything seemed to work fine.
@OffGridGarageAustralia
@OffGridGarageAustralia 15 дней назад
I haven't tried that yet. Good thinking!
@beebop9808
@beebop9808 15 дней назад
Agree yes. Data maps are different for different devices and on different comm protocols. JK pretty much talks on all protocols. Match the protocol with the BMS and choose the BMS brand on the Victron. First guess, have the JK emulate the Seplos on whatever protocol it uses. Hopefully hit it first crack and not have to hunt and peck all might long. Cost too much beer. hahaha
@junkerzn7312
@junkerzn7312 15 дней назад
The CAN protocols are basically communicating with formatted binary fields (well, actually a mix of ascii and binary). Parameters are typically just a number, not a descriptive text. Values have unspecified precision (e.g. does the value 100 mean 100, 10.0, or 1.00 ?). Data fields may contain a descriptive text, such as for alarm messages, but typically use binary representations for values. On top of that, there are often piles of edge cases where the data does not behave as expected under various abnormal conditions. The only reason it works at all is because the various vendors copy each other's protocols... but they do it by observation rather than by definition. So basically its a big Potpouri. Which is why I don't trust cross-vendor CAN compatibility. At all. For anything beyond user display purposes. Certainly not for control loops. -Matt
@sammaimas155
@sammaimas155 15 дней назад
Andy when I am watching your videos the resolution when you are showing us screen based information is a bit blurry especially when you show the output from your victron equipment.
@rabo4652
@rabo4652 15 дней назад
Hello, How to configure BMS JK PB2A16S20p to activate the relay at 3.45V?
@fransvankralingen725
@fransvankralingen725 15 дней назад
Ask peter to make a peterboard to monitor grid voltage and frequency - to be able to switch on (and off) feedback power to the grid. Your poolfence grid inverters can also be used to feed battery power to the grid (in off-solar times) to circumvent future feed-in penaltys
@NaamNatuurlijkniet
@NaamNatuurlijkniet 14 дней назад
Hi, Andy.. another great video. I am wondering though. Victron also has the possibility to actually measure DC loads with a Victron Smartshunt set to do just that. That way Victron may not need to calculate the DC load , but actually measures it. I guess the “has DC Load” Switch is just there for the correct calculation of the load. Perhaps you could try and see if it makes a difference. Should be easy to do by just telling the shunt it is a DC meter. One other answer here is smart also, when asking “peter” to monitor the Can bus he might be able to filter out the problem. When it is easy to fix by either parties perhaps one of them wants to do so. Since the JK is getting more and more popular and more cases are hitting the market with the JK integrated it is of importance to both companies to make this work. Let me know what you think.
@pulith5220
@pulith5220 15 дней назад
I have an issue with the victron shunt. It stops showing the SOC I am using original ve direct cables. Once I remove the usb n fit it back the amounts show.
@fred-bevhogendorn8023
@fred-bevhogendorn8023 15 дней назад
Can you look at the CAN BUS protocol via a car OBDM CAN BUS terminal display with a computer interface. This might show why the JK is not sending data to the victron system.
@kurayamix
@kurayamix 15 дней назад
It's good practice to not depend on venus os. You never know when they stop supporting old products. 😊
@clarencewiles963
@clarencewiles963 15 дней назад
Snap crackle pop with a click 😂 💥 stand back when you’re flipping through the switches 😂 By the way 88.2K and happy to see your new subscribers 😊
@prof.crastinator
@prof.crastinator 15 дней назад
6:29 that graph is telling you a message.
@diyEVguy
@diyEVguy 15 дней назад
😂
@OffGridGarageAustralia
@OffGridGarageAustralia 15 дней назад
9 fingers, ey?😅
@abhishekkushwaha2455
@abhishekkushwaha2455 15 дней назад
😂😂
@prof.crastinator
@prof.crastinator 14 дней назад
@@OffGridGarageAustralia I’m a child- I know. Thanks for what you do- I’ve learned a lot.
@quilmore
@quilmore 15 дней назад
I have 3x JK BMS (black ones with 1 or 2 amp balancer) and they widely divert on power, how can that be tuned? I guess one is right and the other 2 are under reporting, have tried with one in isolation at the time to get the results
@Juergen_Miessmer
@Juergen_Miessmer 15 дней назад
You need to calibrate capacity, current and voltage with the app.
@SuperStrex
@SuperStrex 15 дней назад
Use dbus-spy (venus os cli via ssh), to look what data are provided by the BMS to venus os. JK does not provide data like used ampere hours what smartshunt does. Compare it with seplos v1. Greeting, Johannes from Germany.
@RFDarter
@RFDarter 15 дней назад
Dran wirds wohl liegen. Die Software vom Peter board sendet diese Daten
@gavinnoname1424
@gavinnoname1424 15 дней назад
Mqtt explorer would also be another method to watch the values. You can also click on specific values and it will graph their changes.
@RFDarter
@RFDarter 15 дней назад
​@@gavinnoname1424mqtt Explorer for can?
@RFDarter
@RFDarter 15 дней назад
@@gavinnoname1424 mqtt Explorer for can?
@gavinnoname1424
@gavinnoname1424 15 дней назад
@@RFDarter no. MQTT Explorer to connect to the Cerbo GX's MQTT Broker. It will allow you to see all of the raw values and graph them. There is a battery topic which contains all of the battery monitors (Shunt, and Can Batteries). It would be interesting to compare JK and Seplos values which are being logged. I can see Voltage, Current & Power being logged every second.
@amilww
@amilww 15 дней назад
What about "Power Tower" instead of "Tower of Power"? Awesome anyway as usual!
@florius70
@florius70 15 дней назад
👍👍👍
@OzFPVflyer
@OzFPVflyer 13 дней назад
Just a quick question... can I use a Daly 100amp BMS (2024 version) on a 280amp 12 volt battery setup as Im only going to draw max 30 amps?
10 дней назад
That 100 amp rating is the BMS controllers in and out maximum so as long as you do not charge or discharge higher than that you should have no problems.. I would suggest that you install a fuse or breaker that could disconnect the battery from the BMS/load in case of a short that might try and draw the full amp potential of the battery pack.. The BMS should disconnect at the level you set but two is one and 1 is none is a rule I live by..
@jlegen
@jlegen 15 дней назад
21:20 - when you say the consumption is not shown - how could the SOC stay at its level? Imo only if consumption really is off, or if the SOC is reported false as well; strange…
@webejamn2
@webejamn2 12 дней назад
Hi Andy. I really enjoy your videos. I have a quick JK-BMS question. I have a small (compared to what you're using) 40A 4S BMS (JK-BD4A8S-4P). I'm trying to understand the "Max Charge Cur (A)" parameter, it's functionality, etc. Does setting this parameter control the charge current through the BMS, say if I set it to 10A? JK's technical information is less than adequate, so any insight would be helpful and greatly appreciated. Thanks, Bill
@henrywillion5471
@henrywillion5471 11 дней назад
According to my understanding that you can set it to 10A,up to 40A
@webejamn2
@webejamn2 10 дней назад
@@henrywillion5471 So, Part 2 of the question, if that 10A input (charging) threshold is exceeded, does the BMS limit the incoming current to 10A (constant current), or does it just shut down?
10 дней назад
@@webejamn2 I am pretty sure that a BMS is just a safety device and does not actually regulate charge or discharge so it should disconnect if a parameter that is set is exceeded.. I also believe you can set the delay for the tripping and reset where it connects again and then repeats that time cycle if the fault still exists.. It would be up to you to set the charge device to limit the output as my Outback 80 amp solar charge controllers and 8kw inverter are where I set these output and input limits and they have regulation abilities to reduce the amps.. This is my opinion so seek more to validate it..
@TheRonskiman
@TheRonskiman 15 дней назад
I have an AC connected inverter, when I first powered up my system the energy meter was connected to the Cerbo, and it could see the power produced via the AC connected inverter, but consumption was always the same like yours was, the Quattro wasnt actually connected to AC at that time just the batteries, so it was assuming all the AC connected solar power was consumed. Once the Quattro was placed in the grid feed it has always shown consumption even with DC system shown, as it can see what's coming from or going to the grid, and solar, and batteries via the shunt. My batteries BMS is not connected to the Victron system. My guess is something isn't being reported correctly, and that's affecting the calculation.
@lespaw71
@lespaw71 15 дней назад
Does the small JK BMS (JK-BD6A17S8P) have a CAN interface for direct communication with the inverter? (Pylon, Sofar protocol)
@RFDarter
@RFDarter 15 дней назад
No
@lespaw71
@lespaw71 15 дней назад
@@RFDarter So how to communicate it with the inverter?
@OffGridGarageAustralia
@OffGridGarageAustralia 15 дней назад
The BD series has only TTL output and RS485 protocol, so it need an adapter. Either USB to connect to a Pi or a Peter board which collects the data and sends it via CAN.
@lespaw71
@lespaw71 15 дней назад
@@OffGridGarageAustralia Thanks for the answer. My inverter (sofar) also has an RS485 interface. I will try to connect this way.
@andrewmclauchlan9205
@andrewmclauchlan9205 11 дней назад
I've been looking for a mechanical drawing for the interface card used with this BMS but can't find one. Anyone know of a link or have one?
@KossuJahvetti
@KossuJahvetti 15 дней назад
Hmm, I have two jk inverter BMSs (200A) connected and using MP2 as an AC driver. I don't have any official DC loads connected but still keeping the DC loads tab on as system appear to use DC power somewhere (bms displays?!). Everything is working OK and showing graphs without any issues. Maybe I'm missing something, I need to watch your video again. By the way, the larger JK-BMS displays is driving me crazy as they apparently have their own mind of going on and off whenever they want, despite setting them off in app. Is it just me or does others have the same? Why the in the world I cannot turn them completely off.
@OffGridGarageAustralia
@OffGridGarageAustralia 15 дней назад
If you have only inverters connected to your system, you can turn off has DC loads. All your power will go into the inverters and nothing anywhere else.
@willisyonker9845
@willisyonker9845 14 дней назад
I have a Victron SmartShunt and have never seen the consumption bar. I just turned on "Has DC Load" and now I do. I think in my case it's because I'm using a Victron Phoenix inverter. Which I don't think reports everything.
@stephanklasen2928
@stephanklasen2928 15 дней назад
My 2x PB2A16S20P in parallel loose connection every 20h! Master is still available in Victron OS, but the Slave gets lost for 2-3h until it comes back. Every day again!!!
@OffGridGarageAustralia
@OffGridGarageAustralia 15 дней назад
Have you swapped them around and make the slave the master?
@stephanklasen2928
@stephanklasen2928 15 дней назад
@@OffGridGarageAustralia yes swapped master / slave, different cables, turned off smart sleep. Every day again, just 4h earlier from day to day.
@mosfetkiller3851
@mosfetkiller3851 15 дней назад
i have a offgrid sma system with ac inverter and mppt victron connected to venus os. solar production show correct but it ads the ac solar generation to the consumption even if it goes directly to the battery. dont matter if dc system is on or off. looks like it will only count consumption correct if i replace the sunny island with multiplus. but i wont do it because the sunny island is way more quality build and lower consumption than the multiplus. running with the diy bms from stuart
@sirmonsterle
@sirmonsterle 13 дней назад
I have another problem with my off-grid system. I have the battery bank with the old JK BMS connected with dbus-serial driver to the Victron system. When I have an AC load and the sun is shining at the same time and there are only small currents going in or coming of the battery. The Victron system will then show a current of zero. When I then stop the load the current is showing again. Or when the sun goes behind a cloud then I see the higher current again. Very strange. Last week I added another battery bank in parallel. At the moment the RS484 converter is still missing so I could not connect the second BMS. But I'm afraid, now when the currents to the batteries are only half of what they were, the problem will be more often. The strange thing is, that even the JK BMS app shows no current then. So I use the smart shunt as battery monitor. But the problem is that when the BMS thinks, the battery is full, it reduces the current in the MPPT even if it has not reached the SOC to do that. So I loose some sun for the batteries. Maybe I should look if I can only use the cell voltages for the calculation to reduce the current and not the SOC any more. I think none of the BMSes are good to measure small currents
@millzee60
@millzee60 15 дней назад
I have DC power switched on because I'm on a boat with a lot of DC devices. Without a dedicated shunt the DC Power is calculated rather than measured directly. I added another smart shunt and configured it for DC power and now the DC Power on the Color GX is as measured. The consumption on mine includes the power used for AC loads and for charging the batteries. I also read something like the BMS has to report the power, not just volts and amps, in order for the consumption to work. But I read it a long time ago so I'm far from 100% on that. That said, I have a Batrium BMS and it is deficient somehow so on the Color GX I use the Victron BMV as the battery monitor but the Batrium still sets charge current and voltage limits.
@OffGridGarageAustralia
@OffGridGarageAustralia 15 дней назад
Yes, it will probably work with a second smart shunt. That would mean though, I would need to separate all DC loads from the main busbar system run them through the shunt and create a sub busbar. That's not going to happen in my battery shelf due to lack of space.
@millzee60
@millzee60 15 дней назад
@@OffGridGarageAustralia It wasn't the addition of the dedicated shunt that fixed the consumption problem, it was the use of the BMV as the battery monitor rather than using the Batrium BMS. I added the dedicated shunt because the DC Power reading was all over the place as the solar generation was not steady due to the movement of the boat.
@thomasdesloovere4200
@thomasdesloovere4200 15 дней назад
So i have 12v victron system, BMV-712 shunt as monitor, a smartsolar mppt and a phoenix charger to charge from grid power / grid tie solar. Once the phoenix charger that is connected via VE direct start charging there is no consumption anymore. This is a bummer because i literally bought it for that reason. But victron still calculated DC system perfectly fine even when charging. If the charger is off (at night, or no grid solar) the data is correct.
@stephsoltesz6731
@stephsoltesz6731 15 дней назад
Not Victron Related as such. Hardware Ver: 15 / Firmware 15:17 There is a BUG with the Temp Sensors. When using all 4 Temp Sensors everything is fine, but if you build a 24V/8S and only use #1 & #2 sense lead (only 2 temp sensors) the BMS throws an error. Also : with the BMS' SOC 100% set to 3.450 the current version will read 100% BEFORE reaching hat actual voltage.
@Dutch_off_grid_homesteading
@Dutch_off_grid_homesteading 15 дней назад
Heya, that is to bad the graf is not showing the consupsion. I have seen some Ideas in the comments you could try. and if the BMS doesn't do it then try a differant road to make it visble my touth
@garys-half-baked-offgrid-dream
@garys-half-baked-offgrid-dream 15 дней назад
Hey Andy, Less than ten days until the solstice 😱😭❄️
@garys-half-baked-offgrid-dream
@garys-half-baked-offgrid-dream 15 дней назад
​​@@nicmate2543It is lol... It will soon be Christmas, dark and cold with very little solar power in Scotland. And I hate Christmas.
@OffGridGarageAustralia
@OffGridGarageAustralia 15 дней назад
Yes, I need some more light on my panels and locking forward to it!
@KeithvanDijk
@KeithvanDijk 15 дней назад
Counting the days, do it every year, no grid where I live in South Australia, totally reliant on Solar input. This time of year floating batteries are just a memory and running the back up generator a reality. Managed 11.2 kWh today, just enough to get by, can't wait to turn the corner and get back to sun filled, longer days.
@garys-half-baked-offgrid-dream
@garys-half-baked-offgrid-dream 14 дней назад
@@KeithvanDijk That's good, I can only dream of that, no chance in Scotland over the winter. Wind Turbines for the win lol
@OffGridGarageAustralia
@OffGridGarageAustralia 12 дней назад
@@KeithvanDijk Yes, same here. I did a lot better than last year thanks to the tilt-system and the additional 6-7kWh it pumps into the batteries every day but it is still not enough for hot water and charging the EV. But, more to come...
@davidpenfold
@davidpenfold 15 дней назад
It seems that it's because you've set the "boss" to the BMS. Maybe these BMSes don't support the DC load function (for Victron CAN at least).
@Knightliner69
@Knightliner69 15 дней назад
My system is a grid connected system with a non victron inverter, Gobelpower(Refinergy) 150A BMS. Grid is measured by a EM24 gridmeter and the DC power going into the inverter is measured by a victron smart shunt. Has DC system is on in the settings and VRM shows consumption bars without any problems 🤷‍♂️🧐
@OffGridGarageAustralia
@OffGridGarageAustralia 15 дней назад
Interesting, so no Victron inverter at all and the GP BMS works...
@Raphael_Hofmann
@Raphael_Hofmann 15 дней назад
What about using a second smart shunt for the DC-Loads? Maby it works than? It is totally possible, that JK is working with a outdated CAN-protocoll...they should contact Victron for a better implementation...
@OffGridGarageAustralia
@OffGridGarageAustralia 15 дней назад
A smart shunt doubles up with the shunt already in the BMS. So that's not really a solution. I don't think either Victron or JK have any interest in a collaboration.
@Raphael_Hofmann
@Raphael_Hofmann 15 дней назад
@@OffGridGarageAustralia I will talk to the Victron CEO next week. Maybe he can give me the contact of the Victron Engineer in charge of the CAN-Communication. I'll let you know, once I know more.
@panospapadimitriou3498
@panospapadimitriou3498 15 дней назад
forgot to put 88k subs
@simoesp
@simoesp 15 дней назад
well... looks like during the vacations the wall will be stuck on the 87"Million" xD
@user-ly4lm8uz5q
@user-ly4lm8uz5q 9 дней назад
Hi Andy, don't bother trying to integrate all that information into your Victron system, each brand does it in its own way, it is difficult and the data is not correct in many cases, I get a BMS when programming it through the app The values ​​that I gave to the BMS were not executed no matter how much I wanted them to and BMS said that everything was going well, the BMS did what he wanted, that is, what it already had from the factory. If I told it to cut the charge at 3.6v, it would do it. at 3.4v and I was able to verify it by measuring the cells directly, so don't believe 100% that the data you get from your BMS is real.
@user-ly4lm8uz5q
@user-ly4lm8uz5q 9 дней назад
And another thing, if you give control to the BMS of your Victron charging system you are putting it at risk, think about it very carefully, I only tell my system what I have and that Victron has total control and that each battery defends itself with its BMS
@christopherstaples6758
@christopherstaples6758 14 дней назад
anyone with a CERRNSS LiFePO4 Battery Pack that can say if theirs is data logging correctly with Victron ?
@ThanosSustainable
@ThanosSustainable 15 дней назад
“Has DC power” always puzzled me… I would expect it to require an additional shunt for DC power measurements…
@gavinnoname1424
@gavinnoname1424 15 дней назад
Well if the battery is reporting that its discharging 1000w, and the Inverter reports that its using 800w, then the GX device simply works out that there must be 200w being consumed by a DC load. I do agree that a shunt would likely be the more accurate way of measuring.
@gavlikor
@gavlikor 15 дней назад
No, it means you have 200W lost on conversion from DC to AC.
@gavinnoname1424
@gavinnoname1424 15 дней назад
@@gavlikor Has DC System: Its value is calculated from the differential between the power measured by the bms or battery monitor, and the power flow measured by the inverter/charger and other sources that are actively monitored by the GX
@OffGridGarageAustralia
@OffGridGarageAustralia 15 дней назад
Victron recommends using a dedicated smart shunt for the DC load to measure it accurately. At the moment, it is a calculated figure, but it seems to work pretty well if the BMS is delivering the right data.
@gavlikor
@gavlikor 15 дней назад
@@OffGridGarageAustraliaall calculations are in file dbus-system-calc located in opt/victronenergy/dbus-calc please make comparision using dbus-spy over putty terminal in section com victronenergy system mayby you will figureout which data are different between seplos and jkbms
@RichardSteigmann
@RichardSteigmann 15 дней назад
TOP 😅 Tower Of Power 😅
@gavinb4497
@gavinb4497 15 дней назад
Hi Andy, looks like the non Victron compatible BMS do not talk the same digital language (Eg One maybe talking CanBus EU the other CanBus Asian)
@gavinb4497
@gavinb4497 15 дней назад
As you stated the CanBus protocol is not compatible
@cfeigel
@cfeigel 15 дней назад
Hey Andy: time to update that subscriber number sign again! 🙂
@user-pf4ci9zs9p
@user-pf4ci9zs9p 15 дней назад
is there is any way to add an inverter directly connected to the battery to the measurement system? currently my dc load (inverter) is not counted by the victron system and the jkbms is lazy to measure low load. It would be nice to have an DC Meter ...
@OffGridGarageAustralia
@OffGridGarageAustralia 15 дней назад
If you turn on has DC system, it should work. That's how I do it with my second non-Victron inverter. The DC Load will show the consumption of this 2nd inverter.
@Juergen_Miessmer
@Juergen_Miessmer 15 дней назад
First 🐸🐸🐸🐸🐸
@OffGridGarageAustralia
@OffGridGarageAustralia 15 дней назад
You are! 🥇
@cyberplebs6577
@cyberplebs6577 15 дней назад
🐸🐸🐸
@hansenmoniquefilms
@hansenmoniquefilms 15 дней назад
Hi Andy, i got firmware V15.24 from JK, if you want it let me know ho to get it to you
@andreaskoch7248
@andreaskoch7248 2 дня назад
Where to get? Any release notes?
@Lertem444
@Lertem444 12 дней назад
try setting the pylontech protocol😅
@SolAce-nw2hf
@SolAce-nw2hf 15 дней назад
No roof insulation and winter is coming. Better hurry up to protect your batteries 😂
@babajun
@babajun 15 дней назад
Maybe bcs JK reports charging as positiv and discharging as negative power?
@windsine
@windsine 15 дней назад
I think JK reports batt current as a signed int32 (+ and - values). Maybe see what format the seplos BMS reports as?
@taj-ma-haul9094
@taj-ma-haul9094 15 дней назад
Like# 187 - My Channel is getting better! Remind us what your system voltage is again, 48v?
@taj-ma-haul9094
@taj-ma-haul9094 15 дней назад
data alignment, some BMSs follow what Victron follows, the others don't. Not sure what data protocol any of them use/follow, but that seems to be the issue in my mind. I bet the Peter board dude could shed light on the data standards!
@taj-ma-haul9094
@taj-ma-haul9094 15 дней назад
Garage Transformation? do tell!
@videogenie1236
@videogenie1236 15 дней назад
88200
@andreasroge7218
@andreasroge7218 15 дней назад
Moin 👍👍👌
@johnwalker7239
@johnwalker7239 15 дней назад
If the Peter Boards work, please ask Peter (the developer), he'll be able to explain the difference. ie what he does to the raw JK data to make it work
@diyEVguy
@diyEVguy 15 дней назад
Good idea.
@offgridstuff
@offgridstuff 15 дней назад
I have decoded the original JK protocol to be read by an ESP32 (similar to Peter board). But, when I started investigating the new JK Inverter BMS communication, it's a lot different than the original. Still working on it, but I need to purchase a new JK inverter board "to spy on it"!. I can't say yet whether the new protocol is an extension of the old one (thus would partially work with Victron), or a new re-write. Initial observation leads me to believe it's a new re-write, but I need to do some more tinkering...
@paulcurtis5496
@paulcurtis5496 15 дней назад
Like# 177
@teddypreston5525
@teddypreston5525 15 дней назад
Here we go... Tower of Power = ToP . Let's call it "ToP" for simplicity's sake.
@fibranijevidra
@fibranijevidra 8 дней назад
Why would anyone buy JK BMS after their recent very dangerous fault? No word of that?! I am not even considering JK anymore, but a word about JK version used in this nice box would be fair. Is that already forgotten?
@astrogerard
@astrogerard 15 дней назад
Even with an external energy meter and a extra PV-inverter on AC-OUT the VRM Portal totally goes banana's. The current values are always right, the graph in the system overview is way, way off and the shown data makes no sense at all.
@blieven1
@blieven1 15 дней назад
Indeed noticed the same with the overview graph, advanced view is correct though. Planning to install an extra grid meter hoping to have a better overview in the future
@travelwithavinash958
@travelwithavinash958 15 дней назад
44 LIKE 579 VIEW AT 37MIN UPLOAD
@rma-nm5vb
@rma-nm5vb 15 дней назад
Ähhh, wrong numbers for subscribers ....88k
@OffGridGarageAustralia
@OffGridGarageAustralia 15 дней назад
Video is like a week old😉
@BromideBride
@BromideBride 15 дней назад
I guess Victron doesn't speak Mandarin.
@PlexMulti
@PlexMulti 15 дней назад
Ηι
@OffGridGarageAustralia
@OffGridGarageAustralia 15 дней назад
Hello🥈
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