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[JKLIVE] Bishop Kosgei and Dr Nelson Makanda speak on the way forward on the anti-gov't protests 

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@kiptanui1514
@kiptanui1514 Месяц назад
Jeff, it’s been the most balanced unbiased sober debate. More of this are needed from media houses.
@epictozmediagroupemg3219
@epictozmediagroupemg3219 Месяц назад
We are not young we are just educated…The county will not be lost that’s why we have a flag and the constitution as the leader.
@dandee7414
@dandee7414 Месяц назад
Fact is fact. Genz's are young. Not all Genz's are educated but they are very informed...n they need to listen to their parents b4 they go for maandamano... everyone has a parent, a guardian or a counselor...seek advice b4 you go n prayers
@GhettoSportifffc
@GhettoSportifffc Месяц назад
​@@dandee7414and not all parents are education that's the reason you have been oppressed for 60 years ... Even a mad person can be a parent and old.
@dandee7414
@dandee7414 Месяц назад
@@GhettoSportifffc but you have counselors who are educated or guardians...when a Genz's is injured, it's the guardian or parents that suffer n take care of them especially those with gun shot wounds
@husseinmkanga7794
@husseinmkanga7794 Месяц назад
What if we want to stay home and not go to America, Canada or Europe?
@maxwelodhiambo663
@maxwelodhiambo663 Месяц назад
I think this old people don't know what we want. We want to build our nation. Why cant our nation create jobs for us
@user-uy7ww7bq6e
@user-uy7ww7bq6e Месяц назад
Corruption is the problem
@Auwyno2
@Auwyno2 Месяц назад
Why would I want to build a foreign nation while Kenya is still a third world??
@ruthnjeri2049
@ruthnjeri2049 Месяц назад
This guy is so on point. Electricians , contractors , plumbers or any hand jobs in America pays as good as a nurse!
@SandraJohnsonSupu
@SandraJohnsonSupu Месяц назад
This was a very insightful conversation with great leaders on the panel. However, if this degenerates in the government weren’t as corrupt as they are, there would be more infrastructures, factories, better roads, provision of free trade and technical schools which would essentially lead to more jobs. It’s a trickle down effect. Corrupt leaders cannot lead a country successfully. It’s like the blind leading the blind. Kenya is God’s country and with His grace and wisdom, things will never be the same again 🇰🇪😘.
@dandee7414
@dandee7414 Месяц назад
I support, lets vote for that young man i saw on Tv...he is very briliant
@OsungaOkello
@OsungaOkello Месяц назад
If the Gen-Z buy one grain of this placation , that will be very sad.
@joelkoech66
@joelkoech66 Месяц назад
Geoff. The greatest patriotic interview from citizen tv for along time. Oh more of this.
@lillianebwire4897
@lillianebwire4897 Месяц назад
Listening after people died.
@doubleT-o1u
@doubleT-o1u Месяц назад
Hello my people! I want to agree with a great suggestion that has come up. Why can we not have a total shutdown? If we are stopped from going into the streets, can we stop everyone from leaving their homes until Ruto resigns? Look, the 2 days per week is nothing to Ruto and his goons. I suggest we stay we go a notch hire. No plane will land or leave the country, no ship will dock or leave the country. Let me know what you think?
@mjbc3971
@mjbc3971 Месяц назад
Which constitution suggests that elected leaders can be removed from office this way?
@tujikazekenya7491
@tujikazekenya7491 Месяц назад
This kind of discussion should have a wider forum for more inputs soonest.
@tamulifechannel
@tamulifechannel Месяц назад
Mature communication. We need this more and more. i am worried of loosing my country as Kenyan
@DevinePowers254.
@DevinePowers254. Месяц назад
Apologist for oppressive government! Call a spade a spade 😢
@webspidercyber
@webspidercyber Месяц назад
Imagine Hii Regime yote Cjawapenda Mimi.
@philipndiema2228
@philipndiema2228 Месяц назад
It was a great debate. The message was healing.
@LailaMohamed-b8o
@LailaMohamed-b8o Месяц назад
I have never been thise prouder!.
@Manojere0071
@Manojere0071 Месяц назад
McOure for president
@rodgerskiparus7834
@rodgerskiparus7834 Месяц назад
GREAT MAN OF GOD OF MY LINEAGE@HON.BISHOP JACKSON KOSGEI...❤❤❤
@OsungaOkello
@OsungaOkello Месяц назад
Very sorry but there is a difference between a pick pocket and a massive money launderer who deliberately compromises his people’s position in the world. You have together been outrageous.
@olivermdany3599
@olivermdany3599 Месяц назад
And Ruto was calling the young Genz criminals
@kangetimothypatson2322
@kangetimothypatson2322 Месяц назад
This is a very creative discussion from a parental point... Great content of leadership
@Fred_Sagala
@Fred_Sagala Месяц назад
The youth are creative, knowledgeable but need wisdom from the older generation, no one lives in a vacuum
@epictozmediagroupemg3219
@epictozmediagroupemg3219 Месяц назад
Can you identify the wisdom you are talking about after 60 years?
@omemaskema9012
@omemaskema9012 Месяц назад
I've seen children as young as 8 yrs wiser than their own fathers!!!!! Which wisdom is this.. .from pple over 50 yrs ....doing n reading from the same same script.....64 yrs after so called independence!!!!!!
@LailaMohamed-b8o
@LailaMohamed-b8o Месяц назад
I cant be a refugee in a foreign land. I have to move back. To be part of the suffering. Am not a coward.
@flaviaokelloteddy9163
@flaviaokelloteddy9163 Месяц назад
New suggestion out sde current saga. May you please invite Professor PLO and Bishop to discuss live?
@kimwacilia8007
@kimwacilia8007 Месяц назад
This the right people needs to be President advisor there advice is really moving
@sammkamami875
@sammkamami875 Месяц назад
Wonderful conversation🎉🎉
@nakhumichamasinde2156
@nakhumichamasinde2156 Месяц назад
Please stop calling them kids that ia derafatory. They are educated young adults. Bishop I am dissapointed. If we had proper governance we would not need to seek employment outside Kenya. You are missing the point.
@mosesototi2444
@mosesototi2444 Месяц назад
A Bishop who voted yes while young people where being killed outside Parliament
@lillianebwire4897
@lillianebwire4897 Месяц назад
The arrogant language before GenZ was too much.They never listened.
@LailaMohamed-b8o
@LailaMohamed-b8o Месяц назад
I cant afford to be a refugee. That is not me😂.
@c0astarianabr0ad
@c0astarianabr0ad Месяц назад
Asking the media not to be too harsh on the goverment.
@TruthBeTold-kt6sx
@TruthBeTold-kt6sx Месяц назад
Two good people and humble. Jeff you should be inviting wise men like these two!
@husseinmkanga7794
@husseinmkanga7794 Месяц назад
These are people who benefit from the system. If Ruto is forced out anybody after him will try to do is job the right way. Maybe you guys have something to lose we don't.
@DrSting-vp3hd
@DrSting-vp3hd Месяц назад
​@husseinmkanga7794 do you even hear yourself speak? Follow the constitution to remove a current president. A country cannot be void because you are agitated....
@epictozmediagroupemg3219
@epictozmediagroupemg3219 Месяц назад
@@DrSting-vp3hd what constitution the police do not even respect court orders. Open your eyes.
@jonathancharo1595
@jonathancharo1595 Месяц назад
Not the likes of Moses kuria and murkomen,
@DrSting-vp3hd
@DrSting-vp3hd Месяц назад
​@epictozmediagroupemg3219 so you are choosing too not to follow the constitution?? So two wrongs make it right??....SMH
@LailaMohamed-b8o
@LailaMohamed-b8o Месяц назад
Social media has alot of advantages its important we weed out the disadvantages and the force behind it.
@LailaMohamed-b8o
@LailaMohamed-b8o Месяц назад
Reformation should be the right word.
@LailaMohamed-b8o
@LailaMohamed-b8o Месяц назад
Just few day after covid i moved to nothern part of kenya. During my drive around i saw children were outside the church Playing then deeper observation i realized the somalis were busy keeping the children busy by memorizing the Quran. I could help feeling some empty space in my heart and some guilt. It was not my place to make the change. Northern part of kenya is for everyone. I felt betrayed.
@abdurahimabdulkadir3926
@abdurahimabdulkadir3926 Месяц назад
Mtazunguka Sana tatizo watu wa serekali wanapata salary ambayo iko juu plus kuiba lkni hii mishahara yao ingepunguzwa na ifatiliwe ukiiba unarudisha hiyo pesa na ukae ndani
@HashimSalim-yy1ix
@HashimSalim-yy1ix Месяц назад
If you are our parent y this happen for 50 years and your there..
@epictozmediagroupemg3219
@epictozmediagroupemg3219 Месяц назад
Hawa watu wanona tuko wajinga sana …
@mosesototi2444
@mosesototi2444 Месяц назад
They are the stupid old minds
@stove7197
@stove7197 Месяц назад
Exactly…what wisdom would they be spewing now that evidently escaped them for 50+ years 🤷🏿‍♂️
@LailaMohamed-b8o
@LailaMohamed-b8o Месяц назад
Am currently reading a book called ' prey' i ordered based on my environmental observation.
@johnmaina5643
@johnmaina5643 Месяц назад
As much as the security agencies have been blamed for using excessive force to the Genz allow me salute most of our officers who behaved very humanely in the course their duty. We are definitely indebted to you. May our good God also protect you.
@musagau-dy9dl
@musagau-dy9dl Месяц назад
The conversation ur having today is getting into our hearts.7m Kenyan according to our systems of education and jobs there totally out as if we don't need ther contribution
@sophykaguai7141
@sophykaguai7141 Месяц назад
Great!
@LailaMohamed-b8o
@LailaMohamed-b8o Месяц назад
Am in training. So what is happening to the president of kenya is something that has made me not to feel at home at my location.
@julied6339
@julied6339 Месяц назад
Go to Canada for sure , Canadian needs trade training,Carpenters, plumbers, drivers,cooks, housekeepers, caregivers, nurses, motor mechanics and so many others.
@user-uy7ww7bq6e
@user-uy7ww7bq6e Месяц назад
@@julied6339 rada
@LailaMohamed-b8o
@LailaMohamed-b8o Месяц назад
As Africans we had god before they brought their book of their God.
@danvidsministries-pastorna6449
@danvidsministries-pastorna6449 Месяц назад
We nee more of these educative and mature engagements.
@francischomba5335
@francischomba5335 Месяц назад
Mr President, you should not hide behind democracy to foster nepotism, corruption, over taxation, abuse of power and dictatorship. We can't allow you to rule us with an iron fist. It high time for you to reflect on your failures and stop shifting the blame to other people. Implement the constitution without favouritism. The rule of law should apply equally to all Kenyans but in your government, your close associates are above the law. We resist your inability or unwillingness to uphold the constitution of Kenya impartially. We gave you an opportunity to select a new cabinet but you have recycled your friends back. We hold you to the highest expectation. Nothing will change if you continue doing things the same way. It is time for a new paradigm shift or you ship out. Kenya belong to all of us and each voice matters. Listen Mr President. Listen to the voices of Kenya and respond accordingly.
@OsungaOkello
@OsungaOkello Месяц назад
You are NIT fighting against corruption. And never have.
@Trailblazer_9s
@Trailblazer_9s Месяц назад
Ruto has never mentioned a word fighting corruption, that's the main cause of this movement
@mbuikibuga5447
@mbuikibuga5447 Месяц назад
When it comes down to individuals businesses the follow accountability to the latter but when it come to the public finances it painful to those given mandates to account.
@annaharper8420
@annaharper8420 Месяц назад
Why shouldn't they trained on skilled workers within our country Kenya. They real have knowledge for such things like plumbing, Mechanical, painting, small & big farming etc
@c0astarianabr0ad
@c0astarianabr0ad Месяц назад
Load of gabbage...... you tell us to listen to leaders who are compromised and don't listen to the people. Government wheeled propaganda. Good governance and stop corruption, accountability is key
@bulsonndegwa6003
@bulsonndegwa6003 Месяц назад
Bishop Koskei, my man!
@LailaMohamed-b8o
@LailaMohamed-b8o Месяц назад
I stand out to be counted. Something 'they' thought the can manipulate. Not in my tuft.
@LailaMohamed-b8o
@LailaMohamed-b8o Месяц назад
I will be 'like good riddance, kindly dont return it'😂.
@HashimSalim-yy1ix
@HashimSalim-yy1ix Месяц назад
Very true we can not even marry what kind of parent you are
@user-cv4cw6qd1z
@user-cv4cw6qd1z Месяц назад
Girls don't want mama baby boys if u wait maandamano ndo mkaibe mali ya wizi hiwezi Lea bibi na watoto ,mnachonga from morning to dawn hata pesa ya sukuma hu provide but unaenda kununua matawi ya muguka which lady can marry you?
@OsungaOkello
@OsungaOkello Месяц назад
He voted Yes.
@gracewatetu3322
@gracewatetu3322 Месяц назад
Peace and love always wins
@chikaabtwn2244
@chikaabtwn2244 Месяц назад
Government apologists shame!
@OsungaOkello
@OsungaOkello Месяц назад
This is a government apologist,
@zanojames8421
@zanojames8421 Месяц назад
Very sober conversation
@stellakahakinjuguna2974
@stellakahakinjuguna2974 Месяц назад
But no one can believe what Ruto is saying. If he's true Christian, let him resign and make room for fresh start for better leadership
@annaharper8420
@annaharper8420 Месяц назад
Those countries you have suggested they have their young people working on those jobs you have mentioned. Why can't you suggest those young people t0 visit our country to join as partnership and work together to improve skills of young people both sides.
@emmanuelochieng7392
@emmanuelochieng7392 Месяц назад
They are Kenyan citizen and not children so to speak
@beatriceokello3276
@beatriceokello3276 Месяц назад
CORRUPTION MUST STOP.
@mwituamweene9850
@mwituamweene9850 Месяц назад
Ruto can't learn new tricks.
@noahkipronokipnyony
@noahkipronokipnyony Месяц назад
What a conversation ✅oooh my
@mosesototi2444
@mosesototi2444 Месяц назад
Dont tell us about Somalia, we are not terrorists , these sre just young people that are , tribeless and religionless , scare tactics won't work and we don't care if we will be around to enjoy the benefits, ANGUKA NAYO
@georgeadimo4864
@georgeadimo4864 Месяц назад
We have failed as parental Leadership not listening and doesn't feel
@LailaMohamed-b8o
@LailaMohamed-b8o Месяц назад
The end is the means.
@LailaMohamed-b8o
@LailaMohamed-b8o Месяц назад
Am not a big fun of online shopping. I come to you look around fit and buy. Online is not a place i shop.
@festusmburu337
@festusmburu337 Месяц назад
Very interesting to listen very learned Kenyans analysing the top of the ice berg ONLY. Jeff you have a learned team. It is nonsense to assume gezs are leader less. The youth are the product of our society and the so called development partners. Don't isolate the young people. The old generation have failed young generation. Jeff soon if you will ask young people why we have police on the road, they will tell you to collect money. Bad things are happening in the full glare of our children 😢. From Moi onwards who has ever seriously addressed this problem? Why can't we have a team of policemen we can PAY WELL? Or empower saccos to police themselves., etc.?? This is just a small example of bad things going on from one govt to another. Young people expected a revolution from Ruto. Ruto was misguided by western advisors kuvinya the poor. Unfortunately he even attempted to make the elite pay kidogo. And now the "old guards" are smiling. They even want to high jack the genzs movement!! 🙄
@OsungaOkello
@OsungaOkello Месяц назад
Truly condescending BS.
@Taitatowett
@Taitatowett Месяц назад
A sober discussion it is
@chikaabtwn2244
@chikaabtwn2244 Месяц назад
These guys are trying to buy time for Ruto
@georgeadimo4864
@georgeadimo4864 Месяц назад
Leadership not listening Leadership not see people Leadership not feeling
@LailaMohamed-b8o
@LailaMohamed-b8o Месяц назад
The older generation has the mentality of ' usimwage ungaa. Am like 'wacha ni mwange ungaa and watch he takes it😂
@fridahnkatha4202
@fridahnkatha4202 Месяц назад
No misconception about church on misleading citizens as alleged by bishop Kosgey. Majority of church leaders and politicians have a convergence point
@labankirui285
@labankirui285 Месяц назад
Top brains
@doubleT-o1u
@doubleT-o1u Месяц назад
Hello my people! I want to agree with a great suggestion that has come up. Why can we not have a total shutdown? If we are stopped from going into the streets, can we stop everyone from leaving their homes until Ruto resigns? Look, the 2 days per week is nothing to Ruto and his goons. I suggest we go a notch hire, let us do 30 days until he resigns. No plane will land or leave the country, no ship will dock or leave the country. Let me know what you think?
@Festusogwankwa-cd2wf
@Festusogwankwa-cd2wf Месяц назад
That one is honestly marvelous.. Stopping anyone from going to school,work,no going in no going out,no landing no take off...
@amoskipkorir824
@amoskipkorir824 Месяц назад
Reasoning for the sake of reasoning
@DrSting-vp3hd
@DrSting-vp3hd Месяц назад
Not practical....how do you stop everyone?? Some of GnZs are already backing down....and worse you are leaderless
@tishofikini2776
@tishofikini2776 Месяц назад
Our problem is corruption, tribalism,greed and grand waste of gavaa resources. These two panelists are government apologists.
@ramenyaramenya6223
@ramenyaramenya6223 Месяц назад
PRESIDENT RUTO is not a problem. Corruption is always the problem to kenya
@webspidercyber
@webspidercyber Месяц назад
Huyu Bishop ata Pia nikaa anam sanitise... Ruto.. Hii regime yote ya KK Cjawapenda in any way.
@bonifacemuthui9363
@bonifacemuthui9363 Месяц назад
but he listened after how much had been done on kenyans?
@njerinjenga4107
@njerinjenga4107 Месяц назад
which life Jeff???
@stellakahakinjuguna2974
@stellakahakinjuguna2974 Месяц назад
I think the priests have relevant points, maybe genz can give them a chance
@lincolnmwangi1003
@lincolnmwangi1003 Месяц назад
Bishop we don't have leaders, the ? Is whom are you leading
@LailaMohamed-b8o
@LailaMohamed-b8o Месяц назад
If its 2 by 2 make sure you level up. Otherwise its that bad teste in my mouth. No one does that for me. Yaani in short simply put. Hatoshi mboga😂.
@yousefobel
@yousefobel Месяц назад
These old ppl are the problem in kenya
@petermuriama6204
@petermuriama6204 Месяц назад
This man also voted yes on this stupid bill. He was also spoonfed on which position to lie on because of his own selfish agenda. Am sorry but am not going to buy your words sir. You don't represent the Wanjiku.
@SteveMainaKeshonga-ir5oz
@SteveMainaKeshonga-ir5oz Месяц назад
Change it an extend will Cool the temperature ruto risign peace gurded
@MichaelHeery
@MichaelHeery Месяц назад
Digital media technology started in 1960s tell these old guys.
@DrSting-vp3hd
@DrSting-vp3hd Месяц назад
Put it to context....where?
@mosesototi2444
@mosesototi2444 Месяц назад
Stupid minds will never change
@MichaelHeery
@MichaelHeery Месяц назад
@@mosesototi2444 i started in 1969 in tech factory..
@MichaelHeery
@MichaelHeery Месяц назад
@@DrSting-vp3hd analogue dissipeared yrs ago.
@mosesototi2444
@mosesototi2444 Месяц назад
@MichaelHeery I agree, this discussion was useless and from old people that should be retired in their beds
@lincolnmwangi1003
@lincolnmwangi1003 Месяц назад
Problem the haves n have not, imagine how much you reaped as salary as an nominated mp doing nothing,, surely
@susanbundi7136
@susanbundi7136 Месяц назад
This man calls him a VC he has no mind I don't know how he got this position is holding. wrong advice you people retire go home let the gen z get those jobs
@johndalton23
@johndalton23 Месяц назад
Hii kiwete is here to support the butcher of our kids. 😢Mgengoa mguu zake zote.
@amoskipkorir824
@amoskipkorir824 Месяц назад
I hope you are not married or still giving birth to your children
@DrSting-vp3hd
@DrSting-vp3hd Месяц назад
You are infiltrating the GenZs agendas! Wewe unahitaji kutembelewa
@user-td3oo1ye9n
@user-td3oo1ye9n Месяц назад
God 4give u....do u know what might happen to u 2moro????
@sarahm316
@sarahm316 Месяц назад
@johndalton23....may God have mercy upon you kwanini useme maneno mazito hivi wow na Mungu akakulipe kulingana na matamshi yako never mock God
@sarahm316
@sarahm316 Месяц назад
​@user-td3oo1ye9n may God have mercy kwanini mtu aite mwingine kiwete wow na Mungu akimkata yake yote na pia mikono akue wakulishwa ooo noo so sad😭😭😭
@edwins..kitchendiaries
@edwins..kitchendiaries Месяц назад
Good. Abit b8ased lol
@obwarfelix7070
@obwarfelix7070 Месяц назад
The church is a serious disappointment in those country.
@epictozmediagroupemg3219
@epictozmediagroupemg3219 Месяц назад
Calling people children for exercising their constitution is insulting…anyone above 18 years is an adult…children are at Kindergaten.
@evansmakori3289
@evansmakori3289 Месяц назад
Kijana kichwa ngumu. Someone tell them that is the problem of learning while older. You seem things to be imaginable when we have already used them and seen what they can do if implemented. Wake up 😪😪
@epictozmediagroupemg3219
@epictozmediagroupemg3219 Месяц назад
Kijana ni baba yake …mzee mjinga mwenye anajivunia miaka to ila sio akili.
@stellakahakinjuguna2974
@stellakahakinjuguna2974 Месяц назад
But Ruto said the church bribing missions have to stop but less than a month later he arrogantly tells his deputy to work with some priest and give him a quotation for remaining work It means he speaks to appease people aware he has other agendas He has opened others political class to hop from one church to the other seeking support
@miltonmugo6450
@miltonmugo6450 Месяц назад
A fraudster
@nacymostfavoured6334
@nacymostfavoured6334 Месяц назад
You🤨
@LailaMohamed-b8o
@LailaMohamed-b8o Месяц назад
If i dont buy. Its imparative you dont wrestle why. You dont know what i have on you. So dont act important. You are as nothing as i saw you...😂
@LailaMohamed-b8o
@LailaMohamed-b8o Месяц назад
I cant afford to be a refugee. That is not me😂.
@doubleT-o1u
@doubleT-o1u Месяц назад
Hello my people! I want to agree with a great suggestion that has come up. Why can we not have a total shutdown? If we are stopped from going into the streets, can we stop everyone from leaving their homes until Ruto resigns? Look, the 2 days per week is nothing to Ruto and his goons. I suggest we stay we go a notch hire. No plane will land or leave the country, no ship will dock or leave the country. Let me know what you think?
@KimweliJunior-ww4li
@KimweliJunior-ww4li Месяц назад
am agree with you
@epictozmediagroupemg3219
@epictozmediagroupemg3219 Месяц назад
Viva Kenya
@AhmedMohamed-qc1uo
@AhmedMohamed-qc1uo Месяц назад
I have seen a lot of Kenyan people compare there situations of Kenya to Somalia in this difficult time but as we speak Somalia is way better than Kenya at moment and a lot of Kenyan are going to Somalia to look for greener pastures and for those one who went Mogadishu will agree with me having said that Kenyan only experienced this problem only 2 months but Somalia was in crisis from 1989 we don’t want Kenya to go that way bcs it is one of best country in East Africa the people are hard working good in hospitality have all the ingredients that is needed only good leadership is what remaining
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