Job Sikhala, Zimbabwean Opposition Politician In Conversation With Trevor Part 2

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In this second episode, Trevor and Job Sikhala, Zimbabwean Opposition Politician discuss some of the worries he had during incarceration, reflections and his political ambitions going forward. They also discuss Job's opinion on strategic ambiguity by the Citizens Coalition For Change , mistakes made by the opposition for the past three decades, the role of the National Democratic Taskforce and many more...
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@rascocky6366 5 месяцев назад

Trevor there put a very good question to Sikhala about all political leaders owning up to their mistakes. Sikhala's answer is the ROOTS OF ALL PROBLEMS in Zim politics. Zim politicians are afraid to admit their mistakes. Not only that they think that their positions are a lifetime right! Is that not zanupoof mentality. The opposition must 1st impose term limits for the party leader, MPs, Councillors, Mayors, etc from their own party. That's how change comes. The other major endeavour would be to educate the electorate at grassroots level so they learn to demand accountability and tangible performance from their leaders at all levels. Only after such changes will change start happening in Zim.

@ShadreckPaulo-du1eg 5 месяцев назад

Agree 💯% with you, MPs, Senators Councillors must have two teams(5 years),, must be accountable and responsible. No criminal records,we are going noway with these double minded politicians

@malvinmurindi2134 5 месяцев назад

Seconded I will definitely be a passionate member of a National Democratic Task Force, Long story short what Job is saying is simply let us unite as Zimbabweans, work towards a common goal that way winning is guaranteed no 2 ways about that .....what have been killing us along is these divisions, power hungry leaders who believes in individualism more than collective efforts, I like the idea of servant leaders that’s on point Thank you so much Trevor for the powerful interview

@claudettemavunda4236 5 месяцев назад

The explanation makes me feel that Zimbabwe is very far from achieving any meaningful change that will benefit the masses

@davidjena6625 5 месяцев назад

Job must be given a chance. I like how he came across in this interview, sober-minded and unbroken in spite of his persecutions. He is more of an activist than a lawyer. We needs more Job Sikhalas in Zim politics atm. God bless you, Job!

@wonderchitsatse4019 5 месяцев назад

As long as he is against Chamisa kwete

@LujoSey 5 месяцев назад

Unlike the others who have become fashion designers. He needs to be given chance at least he has balls to face Zanupf

@EdgarJnrJnr 5 месяцев назад

He does but politics doesn't work that way politics is just a popularity contest

@EdgarJnrJnr 5 месяцев назад

Because if you look at it you could be munhu ane all the academic qualifications, experience yakawandisa but it's just a popularity contest if politics was based on merit people like the mtn guy would be minister of ict

@gumsblt3dj5z 5 месяцев назад

Giving him a chance to do what? I feel he is one of the best, committed activist God has given us but for anything other than that may water down his God given assignment.

@carolinematsveru2566 5 месяцев назад

Job need serious counselling, he has gone through a lot and he need to process everything in a professional environment. I'm sending peace to him and his family ❤

@shepherddhlamini2310 5 месяцев назад

True. I could not hold back my tears as he sobbed.

@feastlife1904 5 месяцев назад

@@shepherddhlamini2310 how exactly do you "send peace" to someone?

@kennyrukovo8243 5 месяцев назад

Watching this discussion, it's as if we are still in the pre-independance erra. Very true, let the people decide collectively, without politicians interfering. Zvinorwadza 😢! Partisan politics has failed us. We should now run our country as a cooperation, where if the CEO messes up, we fire him.

@l.a.t.dm.d.w5582 5 месяцев назад

Thank you trev this was a huge therapy for job to pour out his horrible experiences through this interview.i can see you feel much better after all this.

@elijahmangwende8182 5 месяцев назад

My leader Wiwa, join Chamisa and bring change . At any given time in every country there is always one person loved by people , and that person needs supportive people around him, Mugabe, Nkomo, Tsvangirai and now Chamisa , these have natural connections with people . Thats why we still talk about Solomon Mujuru . Your proposal to consult was done already by NC so we need to move forward, citizens have already conveyed what they want , all we need is to put it into action now , Zimbabweans are ready for change

@monnietaah9583 5 месяцев назад

That’s true. Otherwise on his own he is nothing. The masses are with Chamisa

@mukomapapapaps4358 5 месяцев назад

You speak nonsense what has Chamisa to do with this ....

@mukomapapapaps4358 5 месяцев назад

@@monnietaah9583nonsense we are not part of your messes

@malvinmurindi2134 5 месяцев назад

No1 is barred from this movement, why joining Chamisa that’s not part of the idea the guy is talking sense ,he is simply talking about collective efforts

@elijahmangwende8182 5 месяцев назад

@@malvinmurindi2134that was done already right ? So why repeating a process yakaitwa ?

@delightchewe3496 5 месяцев назад

From Student Activism up to now he is still a fighter!

@petermura3763 5 месяцев назад

He still acts like a student activist you mean? He still has no idea what he's fighting for.

@fortu2479 5 месяцев назад

Job handled the interviewer with caution. Have a feeling the interviewer wanted Sikhala to go hard & castigate Chamisa.

@blessingmureverwi 5 месяцев назад

Absolutely.Trevor wants Chamisa to step aside and make way for his "third way"

@Dzimbahwe1989 5 месяцев назад

I didn't want to comment but I think I have to. When he says, we need to consult people first, I think he is trying to say a popular statement but it is miles away from reality. People follow a visionary. Do people chose a visionary? There is issue has always been people who have branded themselves as visionaries yet they are opportunity seekers. The masses follow a visionary not become the visionaries of a vision. Zimbabwe needs a true, honest and resolute visionary.

@Mashinge 5 месяцев назад

Like Chamisa

@Dzimbahwe1989 5 месяцев назад

@@Mashinge I don't think Chamisa is a visionary but just a populist. 1.He is not genuine 2. He is religious and not spiritual 3. He is selfish 4. He is cunning 5. Believes in divide and rule 6. He is an exaggerator(simba rakawandira pamuromo sepinjisi) to an extent of providing false hope.

@sydraps 5 месяцев назад

⁠Really 😂

@sydraps 5 месяцев назад

⁠thank you so much for this sober opinion

@user-mi3md9dv2g 5 месяцев назад

Mupeyi chance .The people have spoken kani.

@TIM87648 5 месяцев назад

YOH!!!! Thank you Sirs. Moving.

@faraimuteroza 5 месяцев назад

Touching episode. Thanks Trevor for delivering this episode!

@christophermukopfa6902 5 месяцев назад

Thanks Job for your intelligence to refuse to be cornered to speak against Mr Chamisa. Apparently, mukoma Trevor appear to have his own personal vendetta with Mr Chamisa. He mentioned that he was aligned to mukoma Simba and Nkosana and this is for obvious reason. Inspite of this Mukoma Trevor is a very good interviewer. I like his probing, paraphrasing and management of emotions.

@rascocky6366 5 месяцев назад

Your mentality is the real reason why we have been under oppression for 44years. Why mustn't Chamisa be criticised? Has he not made huge mistakes which cost us our freedom? Why must a leader be worshipped? Sikhala's solution of going back to the people to ask solves nothing because the Zim electorate is gullible, politically illiterate and immature. The majority have zanupoof mentality - support, support and support a leader!! Why? What has that leader done to bring about change? Why does that leader spend most of his energy fighting other opposition leaders instead of bringing about unity? Why is it when Sikhala, or Ncube, or Biti or Khupe, etc contest for the position of party leader they are labelled POWER HUNGRY SELLOUTS yet when it's Chamisa doing the same it's ok???

@tapiwachibatamoto5293 5 месяцев назад

Sikhala & Chamisa is a good tag team

@shepherddhlamini2310 5 месяцев назад

Great interview and truly Job came out well.

@unclewyc4836 5 месяцев назад

If someone says switch off the camera, why not just respect them,. 😮

@tamirirashemushayavanhu525 5 месяцев назад

ambouyira chii ku interview iye achiziva kt kune camera

@mutsawashe1369 5 месяцев назад

His wishes must be respected

@simplysasa1818 5 месяцев назад

Im thoughts as well!

@Ngestro 5 месяцев назад

Maybe he was not talking about the camera,it could have been the light.Besides you don't know how many cameras are there.

@unclewyc4836 5 месяцев назад

@@tamirirashemushayavanhu525 yeah but maybe anenge asingafunge kuti he'll break down

@DaddyDee-jv7ck 5 месяцев назад

My simple analysis is telling me that Trevor anekakuvenga Chamisa. But......

@ge_orge1 5 месяцев назад

Or you need to be a bit more objective. He did not win the election didn’t he?

@pardonmubvuma6245 5 месяцев назад

I think so too

@tincetince6029 5 месяцев назад

I think he is tribalist

@teechiz 5 месяцев назад

He doesnt hate him but henis against his ideas or way of doing politics. Im the same as well. Too many verses will never remove zanupf

@baase89 5 месяцев назад

truth be told, zim needs a different strategy to get rid of zanu and i think he might be onto something here. Problem is Zimbabweans want a quick fix.

@janealexander1737 5 месяцев назад

Cause for Hope!! Bless you Job Sikhala and thank you Trevor.

@rodrickzengeni8718 5 месяцев назад

Job's words do not just impress upon the senses, they affect the heart. True leader!

@abcash_zw8473 5 месяцев назад

Great Interview Good Question coming from Trevor there

@lovenesschikozho9095 5 месяцев назад

Well-said like a grassroots Matigari, simple and non-academic. Thanks Trevor for unpacking.

@elsonshumba5209 5 месяцев назад

Nuggets here from Job, i like the total change he is advocating for in our politics

@user-sy7ku1xo5k 5 месяцев назад

Switch of the cameras 😂😂 travor you are at work Thanks for the platform

@user-hd5nh8pp8t 5 месяцев назад

Job is solid 👌

@gilbertchimonyo4138 5 месяцев назад

So touching

@ianchawanda2161 5 месяцев назад

its emotional , long live Job Sikhala. a fighter for freedom

@fanakakishale4588 5 месяцев назад

I think the current squabbles are amongst the leaders. The people on the ground are united, I say so because the policy of strategic ambiguity denied ZANUPF two thirds majority. Problem seems like this policy had not been agreed to by the leadership.

@edmusariri 5 месяцев назад

Wiwa is onto something here. He in my ears advocates for the end of personal cultism which is rife in African politics. I like his idea of a national consultative process through a national democratic taskforce.

@aram2158 5 месяцев назад

You are right there by letting people to decide, there will be no one to go after.

@ChambokoCheWire 5 месяцев назад

Job The Man. I think A combination of him and Chamisa And the People Will do To Turn Around Things. Aluta Continua

@fredmusiiwa239 5 месяцев назад

strength to you Job.

@shepherddhlamini2310 5 месяцев назад

Love the way Trevor does interviews. The guy is smart.

@user-wz6wu1vz7t 5 месяцев назад

Job open yr zanu will create hatreds between u and chamisa we not allowed to demonstrate against yr ubuse they block everything judge. S we bribed with 400k before elections every thing is captured guys we need arm's to fight zanu is not going charge it's spot with elections i think it's a joke .most off the arm's will come from juniors s from army they are also suffering

@user-wz6wu1vz7t 5 месяцев назад

Zanu looks u inside bcoz we where around elections they know they loose u can mobilise demonstration s they are scared off u

@masvingozimuto 5 месяцев назад

The root problem of Zimbabwe politics is the army. ZANU is an extension of ZNA. We are being ruled by solders masquerading as civilians. there is nothing the opposition can do to succeed. Some of us we haven't forgotten what the late General Zvinavashe said about the opposition in 2003. The only time we saw a change in Zim 's top office was when the army decided that there should be a change. The same person who in 2008 was rejected by the people the army said he is not going anywhere even though he wanted to step down.

@brucencube3990 5 месяцев назад

You are far mature and intelligent. No political strategy can remove a political party backed by the army unless the system cracks from within

@TafadzwaMachirori-fi6jg 5 месяцев назад

Well articulated Job,

@ryanj6093 5 месяцев назад

Job just needs to sit down for now and get counselling and therapy..

@baase89 5 месяцев назад

you enjoy suffering

@Wallaace_m 5 месяцев назад

Trevor wairasa,Job did well…His line of questioning was to push him to attack Nelson,mboko.

@comfortmguni225 5 месяцев назад

i think trevor you are on point when you say ,our Opposition Leadership has failed to owner failer as a step forward.

@mandlenkosidonga3235 5 месяцев назад

There has never a struggle in any society that has done anything without leadership..

@user-qs2ny6ez3d 5 месяцев назад

Good idea Job. It's not possible in Zim with all the democratic spaces closed by Zanu pf. The power to gather is always denied in Zim. The traditional leadership will not allow that process to take place. The media spaces are also closed. This will fail right at its conception unfortunately.

@abilitybepete3803 5 месяцев назад

Nice to hear my brother Job speaking, but I will remind you once again what I told you on our last meeting NO opposition will ever win Zim without having its intelligence department.

@darlingtonupenyu6106 5 месяцев назад

JOB ndiChandagwinyira he can be shaken but can not fall. Strong pillars only shake but cannot fall. He is a resolute leader and a blessing to our nation.

@baase89 5 месяцев назад

yes

@francistapiwachapuredima1917 5 месяцев назад

Are we sure "we the people" know what needs to be done, know how to organize themselves, generally "we the people" are effective at rallies and voting. When it comes to actually getting things done we need a few people, leaders, who can work together and come up with action items.

@blessingmureverwi 5 месяцев назад

A great interview in most respects, but Trevor tried to manipulate Sikhala and I'm glad that he pushed back in a spectatular way.

@takudzwadongorere5916 5 месяцев назад

A good idea

@bidzam 5 месяцев назад

There is no need to go back to the people to ask where the struggle went wrong, it's already clear and evident that a lack of principles has hurt the opposition for a long time. The ordinary man cannot fathom all this as they tend to hero worship. Zimbabwe needs principled individuals for it to go forward and that if that doesn't happen then no change can take place.

@user-wf7lk1qk1t 5 месяцев назад

So touching Trevor and Job all are the victims of this regime wakomana 😢

@pardonmubvuma6245 5 месяцев назад

Thank you Job you're a fighter fighting for a good cause. But I'm beginning to believe that Travor hate Nelson Chamisa

@ephazziepetro2298 5 месяцев назад

What he is talking is a theory that is magnified without taking consideration of an existing barriers of a Zanu pf system and Dictatorship perpetuated against Opposition. There is nothing new he has said which is any different approach taken by the CCC.

@NathanDadTV 5 месяцев назад

This is painful, beyond politics or political affiliations. We can’t have a country where citizens are treated like this just because of politics. What does independence mean then?

@user-xu6tx5nh5b 5 месяцев назад

"Leadership with a heart of its people" Job Wiwa Sikhala

@joeynyii6844 5 месяцев назад

Isn’t that what the Citizens coalition under leadership of Advocate N Chamisa was doing? Consulting the people and make it a people’s movement? . Well, if this is a genuine task force they will come back with a positive message . Because people want you and Nelson working together.

@kelvintushiyamugara8502 5 месяцев назад

I know so too broo

@mayorsundi7139 5 месяцев назад

It's so sad and heart broken to know that people like Job Sikhali are being persecuted by the regime just for voicing up their opinions and wishing nothing but the good of all citizens. His conviction remains resolute and he stood a good stead in spite of the repression he was experiencing. Such a hero of note.

@dutchnezomba3562 5 месяцев назад

Job may God gives you long life

@marthamutani1887 5 месяцев назад

Remember God loves you ,thats why you are here .

@user-fe5ck8cf4e 5 месяцев назад

Its high time you make a mature decision Job, otherwise you will regret all thhe 600 days you spend in prison, which l think they need an incentive and recognition. You wanted to start a political party we know that and you shelved that. Keep that shelved abd never open a page. Dont forfet the slogans you were chanding when you got out of prison, Ziiiii, Zimbabwe. Ziiiii zimbabwe. You were too fast. You were supposed to stay home, heal and see the direction of the winds then decide. Thank you brave man

@eg7461 5 месяцев назад

Jobho.... Shift from being agents of change to agents of a livable basic life for every citizen of Zimbabwe... ... Trying to change ideology of ZANU which many Africans ascribe to is trying to force a mountain to move

@lovemoremusvazvi4112 5 месяцев назад

Trever agara akamaka Chamisa Anoda kungwarirwa

@theclassics7513 4 месяца назад

Chamisa has some flaws as well so it's healthy to have people who criticize his idealogy as well. Chamisa is same version of Mugabe. Mugabe started well but ended badly and people see such traits in Chamisa

@shingiraichiunda9340 5 месяцев назад

Job is a fighter. I salute you my brother. Thumps up to Hopewell, David Coltat others. The rest we are sell outs.

@user-vp1no2ir2m 5 месяцев назад

Mr Trevor, yes you are receiving viewership and what ever other benefits from this interview; have you considered the timing of this interview with Mr Sikhala in terms of his mental and physical well being?

@user-vq3ol2uq2p 5 месяцев назад

Do anyone ever think for an ordinary Zimbabwean s children do people also think we are experiencing the same thing you know what I don't care because this is the live we are going thru too angilandabalathi siyahlupheka labantwanethuyet we have got sellout yekani ukusi user it's enough

@chriszanovuyondebele1985 3 месяца назад

Long live Mr Skhala . There's saying dat says greet them on yo way up coz ull meet them one day wen ulll be on yo way dwn. One day is one day victory is certain.

@RuvaraShe77 5 месяцев назад

The moment you realise Zimbabwe's problems are spiritual, then you will realise the right course to take. Not this. I remember Job saying "I am ready to die for this country",

@langtonmatikinyidze114 5 месяцев назад

Trevor ,Listening to Job he is greater peoples commander.back to teach people We are our own liberators. It has worked and can work again with fruition.Give the Mass their Hands mavoko

@tasaramarega1038 5 месяцев назад

He asked that you switch off, but it still went through editing and the final piece???

@ndimugo 5 месяцев назад

That was very unprofessional and betray of trust

@thembachaza7718 5 месяцев назад

Agreed

@mutsawashe1369 5 месяцев назад

That was uncalled for. I wonder how Job feels about it.

@Greatermans 5 месяцев назад

Agreed

@kudzaimutasa607 5 месяцев назад

Guys pliz fix your subtitles, perfect this channel

@user-qn7nc5wh3p 5 месяцев назад

The idea is very Good but without the leader this will surely fail

@linenmasaire1228 5 месяцев назад

This guy is telling the truth.Now the opposition in Zimbabwe dobas if they are bigger than Zimbabwe itself. Look at Chamisa, its like he is the hope of the pple not the leader of the pple.The pple hv to feel included as share holders not as voters only.

@spencerbobo6610 5 месяцев назад

Why didn't they stop when they were asked to

@tendaisakala803 5 месяцев назад

After watching this interview, I dont see a man with a solution to conquering Zanu pf.

@monnietaah9583 5 месяцев назад

😂😂😂😂 No plan at all

@carolinematsveru2566 5 месяцев назад

Haaa plan hapana hapo kkkkkkk dai vabatana naChamisa

@TawandaSawi 5 месяцев назад

Plan yachamisa ndeyei zviya timujoinewo

@ge_orge1 5 месяцев назад

Forget about Chamisa. He’d a chance and he is not the one

@abidenowel5005 5 месяцев назад

@@carolinematsveru2566Chamisa wacho aperegwa plan chaiyo haachina

@princenobert 5 месяцев назад

Like ANC?

@ernestdzrusoso4104 5 месяцев назад

Job u are fast on making decisions and writing later . Ini kuziva nezva job ndakanzwa na mahere chamisa na Ostalos chibaya and many more of yr ccc comrades . Upto sadac and all platforms cal upon yr release. And cal upon every one to help if possible .

@takundamareverwa-hi7xm 5 месяцев назад

4th revolution Zimbabweans let us embrace this idea .....this man is a fighter

@dereckbouchard3666 5 месяцев назад

We should follow the way they do it in US. A year before the election people contest in primaries to the candidate. The party can have party president . Party president does not mean you are the presidential candidate. There has to be proper primaries for that

@tinashekazuru3040 5 месяцев назад

Wiwa prescribes a people centered Movement . Viva!

@kennedykamonere5440 5 месяцев назад

The harder the ground the stronger the dynamite. They have made you strong

@ndimugo 5 месяцев назад

Good idea to bring an American approach to politics. But munourayisa vana neZanu pf

@thembachaza7718 5 месяцев назад

American ndeipi manje cde?

@Zwide2023 5 месяцев назад

My Brother Trevor, please lets have Nelson Chamisa on the show

@user-nj7jj4yy5m 5 месяцев назад

Chamisa will crush him

@lukachapeyama 5 месяцев назад

He will rather shut down the channel than bring Nedza on it!

@kudzaimutasa607 5 месяцев назад

We need a broad based political setup. We cannot have two parties representing 17 plus million people, Shonas and Ndebele think the country belongs to them yet we have 10 or more other tribes that exist in this country. We have to understand that Zimbabwe is for all Zimbabweans, people from Binga need to be heard and the best person to represent them is someone who understands their challenges, someone who loves the culture and is willing to work hard to improve the lives of the people there. Zimbabwe is a very rich country for us to be suffering like this. Zanupf rule has to be neutralized for the nation to advance. Above all we need leaders that put Zimbabwe abv party and person interests

@ruwahove375 5 месяцев назад

Seeing wiwa cry like this breaks my heart

@cmavuso6068 5 месяцев назад

When the few enjoy fresh bread we are searching for crumbs and can’t find them, I am sure when the sellout guerrillas depart a chance for the nation will come to enjoy the benefits of the struggle. I dream for a free Zimbabwe.

@tfa4782 5 месяцев назад

Inga wani ati switch this off, ko why was that part aired?

@user-vp1no2ir2m 5 месяцев назад

dear Brother, you need to rest; all these interviews will do no good for your physical and mental health what ever agenda you have at the moment; shelve for now; it will still work after a year or two, of quite reflections; therapy, counselling, reconnecting with wife and family; you will have more respect that way we are alright Sir, seeing we are still here after you were away two years ; we do not need you to deliver us; we need you to rest and recuperate for now. thank you

@user-jr1bt9wl6l 4 месяца назад

‘we’ are to blame; particularly the people.😢

@minthiroyavulavula 5 месяцев назад

Hypothetically asking what if people choose Nelson Chamisa to spearhead the change process will Wiwa accept the outcome? There is too much individualism in opposition politics in Zimbabwe and what we need as of now is an interim quick consensus to dislodge Zanu Pf and perfect the game thereafter

@quacharzf 5 месяцев назад

The masses ,wards,districts,provinces .....etc are all politicised ,to penentrate them ,there is need for a well planned strategy.

@dorothymakoni7093 5 месяцев назад

Trevor you should have preserved this man’s dignity when he asked you to SWITCH OFF. This is so wrong to continue when he asks for a moment when he was vulnerable . It doesn’t show you in a good light

@simplysasa1818 5 месяцев назад

Sad Job needs to take a break pls bro Job take head of Apostle Chiwenga s words regather yourself and heal😢

@munyaradzimakaza573 5 месяцев назад

Hating other people will make them strong

@bevenpanganai45 5 месяцев назад

Strength And honor to Job

@artwellmareya4927 5 месяцев назад

The problem in Zim is that the opposition has sharp leaders but with no political ideology and structures while ZANU pf has an ideology and structures but without a sharp leader.How about asking for sanctions to be removed so that we may judge who exactly is wrong

@abemaf 5 месяцев назад

Its so painful to imagine what this champion has gone through. I wish him well, he is such a fighter. And I think he's on NC's side but cannot say it now until the woods are clear. This time Zanu irikurohwa neyawapusa wapusa, they dont know which is which.

@ReasonSithole-rx2jm 5 месяцев назад

At the end you need a person who is loved by the people and we have Nelson there!!

@user-ze1cs3rk2r 5 месяцев назад

Yes a fact National Cake for everyone happiness of our people.

@petermakiwa7503 5 месяцев назад

17:41 a movement without structures, Job, the 'people' leading themselves? Taura chokwadi bhruru.

@marthamutani1887 5 месяцев назад

The words of a man (i will never be shaken )❤

@lydiahtr3877 5 месяцев назад

How practical are these ideas from Job?

@baase89 5 месяцев назад

right now, any idea is better than doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different outcome, a true definition of insanity

@johnzimheni1663 5 месяцев назад

How about those people who are not in groups who are individual citizens, - have they been represented in the 20 people steering committee? Have you gone out into the country to help citizens choose these 20, who are now the steering committee? Does this look democratic?

@trymoremanase784 5 месяцев назад

Im just happy that u are out of Prison, u are free and u are back in the warm arms of your wife.for your political career ,i advice u to take a chill pill and relax.Chamisa is the man

@baase89 5 месяцев назад

truth be told, zim needs a different strategy to get rid of zanu and i think he might be onto something here. Problem is Zimbabweans want a quick fix.