That’s why the jealousy comes in from all these elite MCs that hated on Pac because people won’t stop talking about Pac and I love how Pac still driving these insecure MCs crazy!! Pac did his job! Forever eternal!
WRONG! America is obsessed with violence ....Tupac's life story is ENTERTAINING and it was the first of its kind in rap! But his music was average and he wasn't as big as they make him out to be....and I was a hiphop addicted teen ...Pac's career was my highschool years. And Pac was not the top rapper or any of this shit the media has created AFTER he died....it's exactly like Nipsey! Prime example...93 Strictly for My Niggaz moved about 500,000 copies that year...Snoop Doggystyle sold 7 million...That tells you! They've taken 96 Tupac and conflated thatvwith his entire career...when thats a lie
I agree with you 100% brother Poc said that and you see that now that he's dead and gone all these nobodies who we didn't even know who they were back in the day I coming out and seeing poc was a punk
Not true.Richie Rich said he didnt recognize him after he signed to death row , Ice T tried to be polite but was basically saying that gangsters that were around him didnt respect him in LA .
It’s crazy this man has been dead for 27 years and he’s still the most hated on Rapper . Ppl continue to try find things to discredit and disrespect this man’s legacy.
@@SachinViratSharmaDohni And yall are still defending hoe behavior from Pac even after he admitted he was on Bullshit “thuglife is dead” remember that quote? Yeah, Pac was 🤫 quiet and humble in NY prison then all of a sudden got heart to say 🖕NY from a safe place when he got behind Suge
I think saying Tupac was overrated is mind-blowing. You can scroll RU-vid and see grown men crying listening to his music. Dude wasn't perfect as none of us are but overrated is wild.
@@jayrogers9898 Does that even make sense to you what you just said? The foundation of rap is poetry. That’s what set Tupac apart. He was more concerned with getting to his audience. Not only could you comprehend what he was saying, you felt what he was saying. After you passed half these rappers witty punchlines, they really don’t be saying nothing. You can put Scarface and Nas in that same category when it came to reaching the audience by speaking. Metaphors are great but only your audience can digest what you’re saying.
@@youngtupac1971 all your suspect trolling makes you the number one in homosexual slurs on YT 🌈 looks like you need to tell your parents something 😂 I think they already know 💯
To this day dudes still denying Pac was shot 5 times and he shot himself😂😂😂 The hate is so strong. Despite doctors and police records, despite the bullet wounds, despite the fact dudes was bragging bout popping the nigga this clown still in his feelings cuz Pac probably viewed him as a bum/nobody.
Nah, people talked a lot of shit while he was alive too. I like Pac but the dude was not perfect by ANY means. He led a troubled life and his own actions resulted in his death. Can’t knock people for having an opinion and not following stan culture
@@-.-.11how many people get to know what they really are doing at 24 years of that era though 😂🤷. They was kids. I don’t think he would be acting the same cum today 😊
2pac was making international bangers within days.makavelli written in7 days and that's a world class album. And that fool is saying pac is overrated telling who makes hit albums within days not even biggie or nas including jz can make a world classic album within days.and that joker is saying pac is overrated. What a joker.
2Pac accomplished more at 25 years old than anyone sitting in that room. He’s been gone for 27 years and remains more relevant 95% of rappers/ artist ever. He’s an international icon with over 75 million records sold. Denying his greatness is blasphemy.
Stop it they speak on industry music...talks like he mr independent...we y'all was hella late...yall had white execs telling y'all what y'all could drop Foh
Brother 2pac the goat(rip) really was shot 5 times y'all the truth about that had already been exposed even the doctors from the hospital who treated him had actually came out and said the he was hit 5times😅 why would someone lie about being shot 5 times. who would even want to be shot at all that's not a good thing. Point blink They came to Robb him and he reached for his gun and one of the robbers grabbed him and they both fought for his gun and it went off on him he fell to the floor they tried to finish the job. 2pac was not a gangsta/gangbanga but he far from being fake 2pac was a revolutionary/activist that hung out with gangstaz/gangbangaz and as far as Juice 2pac was already that person😅 he was only playing himself he really had a multiti sided attitude.🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 that's why people like the Brother in this video could never pin point or understand him like his fans can...even til this day😂
@@bricesonloving2702 On everything ! Them sucka ass NY Niggas hate/scared af off our west coast.. we used to Rob they punk ass every time out here in LA.. they will NEVER diminish Pac legacy it’s written in stone, the GOAT
They are hating on 2pac . Pac must have been something great his music is still relevant today he's still considered number 1 in most eyes his music influenced most, and he's been dead over 20 years ago, and they are still talking about him every chance they get
Its not hate.Alot of people were saying this when he was alive.We were all joking how he switched his demeanor after Juice.He was a dancer /funny/ black panther type dude. He started acting like a gangsta after the movie.The movie is where he became famous.
@@user-qd6im2hp2e exactly... they confuse ruthlessness as being gangster and not fearlessness.. the panthers weren't ruthless but they were in many ways fearless..
Ahhhm excuse me Pac ain't no Ja Morant foth and u comparing him 2 Bishop come on Pac was pissed off at sum individuals in New York then everyone has something 2 say coz he made a diss song Bishop is physcho go watch Juice right now and all his interviews b4 he died tell me if he changed 2 Bishop which is Bullshit then u have no idea who he is
This bishop narrative is old. Same excuse for Tupac haters or those that don’t know him. But yet his name still in there mouth. All you have to do nowadays is say Tupac name and you can go viral. That’s why he is the greatest
You do understand this is an interview and he was asked about Tupac right? He didn't just start talking about him outta the blue. Damn niggas slow these days.
I see dude was really in his feelings about Tupac. People talk about he couldn't rap that good, last I checked Tupac made classic music and was the first rapper to have a number one record when he was locked up. And in every album u can see his growth. Other rappers couldn't get no air time when my favorite rapper had an album out. One more thing he never said Big shot him, he said he knew and didn't tell him. Listen to Tupac last interview with Sway he breaks it all down.
Don’t forget to mention Us congress has his record as one treasure and the Vatican also has records as treasure so yea these guys by the time there old and gray the rappers that they love are just going to be people that were just used to rap while 2Pac will remain the top no matter what.
@@IknowMoreThanYou He moved in that way due to lies being told to him, biggie the same thing. Us, who lived though it totally missed everything going on.
@@ProofThatAstrologyIsRealhe discrepancies was on how many shots were fired, the story was that Pac accidentally shot himself trying to pull out his gun for the 1st shot, while the other shots were done because his assailants were upset that he even tried to go there even while being robbed (some even claimed it was only 1 shot and that was Pac shott8ng himself, but that's just haters spreading bs). 2nd accusation levelled on him was that he blamed Puff and Big when he knew who really ordered the robbery (to teach him a lesson) from what I recall, Pac only blamed them for having forewarning of it and not (rightly or wrongly) pre-informing him...fact is Pac blamed his close friend Stretch more fhan he blamed Big and in "Against All Ods!" he does address those responsible directly! I hust think in the end a lot of New York Peeps are still salty on the situation as a whole and would blame Pac for even betraying Jesus if the could.
Hearing this guy talk is exactly what got Tupac shot at Quad. You never know what is on the next man's mind. A good question to ask this guy is since you knew him , did you ever mention any of this to him? I'll wait..
The rewriting of history is in fact one of the worst tactics that has been used to this day. Everyone that knew him said he was being himself, which like most people was not a one dimensional person. Also the fact that he was only 25 at his passing and you have 50 year old men who don't have an ounce of his insight or talent critiquing his skill set and position of goat. It's pathetic really.
No matter how hard you try, you will not discredit Tupac legacy. I’ve seen people come and go with trying to do this. It will never work. The dude wasn’t perfect but the fact that he’s talked about still today says it all.
Dude is talking nonsense, PAC is that guy! Damn near 30 years after his death, we're still discussing his greatness. And that is based on what he was able to do in 25 years! People always talk about technique, first of all, PAC maybe not the nicest but he was hella nice and if the goal of music is to connect with the people, writing rhymes that fly over people's heads is pointless. PAC touched lives with every word he spoke. PAC will always be THE GOAT
Everytime I here you guys say pac wasn't a good rapper.. Who cares with all your rhymes from your favourite rappers without content. None of this rappers got any content. In my opinion the most important thing about music is content and impact,not cunny rap lines without content. Is pac the only rapper dead. Why all other dead rappers not getting the same attention, that's greatness whether you like it or not. You can't compare pac with nipsle..he isn't even close. The man made mistakes just like every other human but you cant take greatness off him. And like he said pac changed but that's human nature, circumstances change all of us. I am 30 this year and was 3 when he died, but I listen to his music because when you listen to him, you feel his music.
All other dead rappers? Nigga every DAY Big gets played and talked about more than Pac. Also Nipsey was a better rapper than Tupac if we’re talking about rap skill and lyrical ability
@@jayrogers9898 More than PAC? Where? on what podcast or TV channels? PAC got more songs than Biggie, Raps about important issues than Biggie, Had more movies, more fame than Biggie World wide.. Rapper better than PAC don't exist.
@@Smokey9278artist Nigga go look at some numbers, Pac had like 5 albums BIG had 2. Pac's top 10 songs have 300 mill streams.. BIG has more than half a billion. Pac has 4.2M monthly listeners, BIG has 5.6M. Biggie actually, freestyled, he actually battle rapped. Pac a fake ass gangster bum who hid behind Shug for clout lol. FOH Pac was a terrible rapper lol how long will they mourn me
Pac did the most gangsta shit any rapper has done and that was shoot 2 cops that was harassing a black person none of the New York dudes that’s hating would do that they would shoot they on brother before they even think abt that
Pac shot 2 off duty cops. He didn’t even know they were cops. Had he known and they were on duty I don’t think the story goes the same way. He definitely would have spoke up but idk about just shooting. The off duty cop tried grabbing his gun and he shot them first. Self defense all the way.
@@drsr7659 he still shot 2 white guys who were messing with his own kind rappers nowadays would not do nun or just record it at the end of the day he still shot 2 racist cops
People always say pac lied on Biggie, but never provide a sound bite of him saying Biggie shot him. He said Biggie betrayed him, and he did. Pac told his story the same way everytime, but their story is the one that changes. Pac told the story on Against All Odds, and if you haven't heard it go listen to it. And guess what...he never mentioned Bigge. Those same people can never find a soundbite of Biggie giving praise to Pac without a jab.
Pac definitely smeared Biggies and Puffs name in the vibe article while he was locked up. That article was full of Pac implicating anyone who was around him that day. Pac was so shook and paranoid he blamed “half the east coast” lol thats not even possible let alone accurate
@@dedricklane4899 if you're talking about the peep show he didn't say Big set him up. He clowned Bigge for throwing up gang signs and they he said THEY can do that fake set me up in the studio stuff in New York, but California is where the Gs ride. If you want to get technical like that, BIG admitted to it on Long Kiss Goodnight. When he said MY MANS AND THEM hit you shots missed you I ain't mad at ya!
Pac still got haters 25 years later proof they all still fear him and why he is the greatest of all time. Period !!! And I hate when they lie about his technical skills smh whose raps do you teach in universities??? Il wait !! Why because his content and structure of his rhymes was on par with the best poetry ever made !!! Just cuz he didn’t do the lyrical miracle stuff talking about nothing that doesn’t make you lyrical. You can’t rewrite history !!!
Tupac overrated?? I hate when ppl use that word when ITS THE PPL that love and will forever love Tupac …so when ppl say that it’s just hating cuz he still relevant smfh
@@jamalevans1574 crazy thing is tho PAC never wanted ppl to idolize him and make him this “overrated guy” but tbh I think his legacy is where it should be .. ain’t no rapper a live has done what he’s done in the 6 yrs he was in the industry
Money B of Digital Underground said Pac was Bishop before he got the role. Pac said Big didn't set him up, but he knew something & didn't tell him. Puffs ex-bodyguard said Puff knew Pac was gonna be dealt with at Quad Studio because it was set up for him to be there. Also, Big got on the radio & said Pac & the Dog Pound were in Time Square shooting a video & NY Stand Up. Their video set was shot up after Big said that on the radio, but it was Snoop & the Dog Pound, not Pac. All of the information is in interviews & came outta people who were there mouths. The Big Fella said Pac lied... remember Pac said I know who touched me & even told so in the song Against All Odds. Also, if Pac accidentally shot himself once while trying to pull out his burner to defend himself from being robbed, the robbers still shot him 4 times. Could both of their deaths been prevented... Only our Creater knows the answer to that.
The people that knew Tupac said he was always that way Money B met him before juice and said Pac was always wild……New York dudes still be hating on Pac
I find it crazy as hell how people want to redefine 2pac! 2pac is not and never was overrated as his music is still influential to this day! RU-vidrs, on a platform that was nonexistent during his lifetime, are reacting to his music daily., So maybe in your opinion he was overrated but to the general public we still love and respect him., ❤
all eyes on me was pacs best work and he didnt say anything about Big directly.. A few shots here and there but nothing direct. secondly, pac created a blue print for big to follow such as diversifying his topics. Pacs subject matter was on 10, he was able to discuss it all, from religion, poetry, polictics, dating, street life, war, history, systemic Racism and spiri tuality etc.... Big told amazing stories and his flow was amaaaaaaaazing But pac transcended Rap!!!
@@jamalevans1574 He didn’t know him like that and it’s obvious. For example, smoking together that one time in 1991 or shaking his hand at a party in 94 don’t count. They were acquaintances at best. He literally said he knew Pac when he was in Digital Underground and saw him change. Actual members of the group said he was even more wild before he joined, lmao. He’s talking but he’s not saying anything worth listening to. It doesn’t matter what he thinks about 2Pac.
Obviously this dude's opinion of Tupac is biased and in my opinion, irrelevant. The east coast beef wasn't started there at Quad Studios. It was started between Suge & Puff. And this dude sitting up there blaming Pac for BIGGIES' death is unfortunate and invalid. Homeboy coming off like Captain Save A Puff. Pac was shot for jumping Orlando. Biggie was talking 💩 on the radio and never should have went to Cali. Pac must've knocked one of ol boy gals off back in the day for him to hate on the dead like this. And folks that question Pac's technical skill HAVEN'T LISTENED TO ENOUGH PAC SONGS. Point blank period. Yeah you say that if your reference is Dear Mama and Brenda's got a baby. But Tupac is more than the radio hits and diss songs any casual listener would be familiar with. This dude need to stick to Outkast talk. You see how he glossed over Pac popping TWO laws? With zero admiration? Come on man. Bruh telling on himself. Ignore that dude's opinion of Pac. He rides for the east coast obviously and still holding grudges. Some say Pac shot himself pulling out the jammy when them cats stepped to him at Quad to rob him. Irregardless of ANY of that, he got robbed and damn near died having to defend his life while them cats was in the SAME BUILDING RIGHT UPSTAIRS. And were NEVER forthcoming with the type of info that had to be privy to. Smh 2023 and this dude wants to 💩 on Tupac. Dude bitter and resentful, sound like - And he needs to scrutinize PUFFY that hard since he got so much to say about what Pac was doing. Man Biggie was finna LEAVE Puffy. And yes, Puff knows that artists are more valuable dead than alive and its a lot easier to control them when they're dead. Peace to the real Shalom to those that know And the GAS FACE to the haters. Oh yeah, I'm 6'5 too AND my name is Blu But I ain't no hater like this cat 😂
Pac had several characteristics that were all real and all him. If he loved you,he loved you,if he gone ride with you, he's going to ride for you and if he didn't like you he was going to let you know. He spoke highly in what he believed in. And he didn't say Biggie and Puffy set him up,he said they knew about and didn't tell him and he thought they was better than that.
Dude too mature and “should” have too much wisdom to be judging a dude on his first 25yrs of his life. Imagine if we did that to everyone. This Tupac hate from older NYC dudes is insane. He like destroyed a whole coast and everyone was to cowardly to fight back.
@@youngtupac1971 the millions of people who love pac worldwide is really eating you alive inside lol..all this hate you harbour to someone that died b4 you were even born is killing you inside slowly 😂 but surely 💯 time for a new occupation kiddo 😂
Pac was an original east coast/NY emcee...he could really rap those battle rap bars all day; his mission was his delivery, not what impressed the media and the elites
His delivery was always point. But I disagree that the delivery was the mission. I always felt the “message” was always the most important thing in his music.
@Lin that's what I meant...and no his message wasn't always the same. Pac admitted that himself...2pacalypse now to Thug Life was a different delivery...
0:46 Ngl I’m continue but if his point is PAC legacy is inflated due to death like Nipsey, he’s wrong. Pac was a movie star n’ a platinum artist before death
Overrated and back in 2003 no one could tell me different about Pac. I LOVED Pac. I played Until The End Of Time for 6 months straight. Better Days was another that I played day after day. Mackaveli, changed my young life when it came out in 96’. But as I get older and the fandom goes away and I’m no longer blinded by fandom. Your outlook changes. And I’m not discrediting for All Eyes on Me. But he had great producers around him. And great features around him. There’s a reason why he made 3 albums prior and they weren’t great. Closest one is “ Me against The World “ my personal opinion is that if Pac was still alive he probably would of left rap along time ago and became a Movie Star
Bring up sales and you lose the argument. Vanilla Ice while new in there conversation I’d sales is criteria. PAC made some good music. But he did get elevated in his death.
Respect to blue but everything had said is a big Contradiction you gonna say he’s a character then at the last minute say he’s real he shot two cops 🤔 where is the Nigga playing a character 🤔🤔
@@commonsense3921 just because he’s been around him a few times doesn’t mean he knew him personally your opinion brother but to me sounds like he doesn’t like PAC Hess clearly blaming him for everything without a lot of context that’s him getting emotional to me
@donaldb93 Okay, Was you even around Pac?? Back in 1995 most people didn’t see Pac as the best rapper of all time, That didn’t happen until AFTER his death and that is what I agree with him on Tupac was elevated after his death just like Nipsey and people want to say he hating for simply stating the obvious.
It truly hurts my heart to see the slander 2Pac received during life and in the after life. He was way ahead of his time lyrically and people are listening to him more now than they ever did. We have Caucasian’s listening and appreciating him after all these years and we still have black folks living with the “crab in a bucket” mentality…it’s truly sad…
Tupac never lied about getting shot five times and second Puff in big had something to do with that quad studio shit them guys on that show is clowns Tupac wasn't stupid he knew what he was talking about
@@jayinthebx that is true cuz Tupac's said on the interview that his cousins even told him they was bragging about shooting him and puff is dirty let's not try to act like they're innocent bro
@Double N no I'm not wrong if biggie really cared about Tupac like he said he did he would have had that talk with him I'm not believing that he was scared that's BS stop it
How you gonna say it was a lie. Pac said in the vibe interview that he was mad at Big cause he claimed to be the king of NY and he wanted answers he didn’t have them so Pac took it as he knew who it was and didn’t say nothing or he had something to do with it. Raekwon made a good point on drink champs about him getting shot. He said if I’m leaving drink champs and I get shot I going to blame drink champs. It’s a messed up situation all around but this dude is trippin! Pac is the goat 🐐 and always will be!
YOU CANT UNDERSTAND A PERSON PAIN AND RAGE IF YOU NOT THE ONE PHYSICALLY AND MENTALLY EMOTIONALLY GOING THROUGH THE DRAMA! PEOPLE CHANGE SO PUT UP THIS WALL, SOME COME OUT FIGHTING! THE THINGS WE GO THROUGH MAKE US WHO WE BECOME ! THAT MAN WAS BIG ON LOYALTY SO TO HIM ONCE YOU BREAK THAT HE GONNA MAKE SURE YOU REMEMBER THAT
FOH boy the hate is real 😂 😂 PAC said it they talk a lot of shit but it’s after I’m gone 😂 boy he didn’t lie 1 bit they still on his nuts 27 years later dam!!!
@@commonsense3921 emotional???? Where were these clowns 27 years ago? Where were their opinions 27 years ago? Oh yeah it’s 2023 new era right I forgot show ratings down so let’s get the ratings back up let’s talk about PAC I get it sucker shit…. PAC still haunting these suckers 😂 😂 😂
The Truth burns a hypocrite and a bad hearted person.. Tupac’s presence and truth still burns all these dudes decades later smh. They will NEVER tarnish Tupac’s name because God Almighty protects the truth, PAC’s legacy is written in stone, RIP to the GOAT gone but definitely never be forgotten
Pac has had messages in his lyrics like no one else. The subject matter is the most important part of lyricism (plus) he did and stood for things that most gangsters on the streets don't R.I.P to the Greatest
2pac best that i can think of off the top of my head.. Ambitions az a ridah No more pain/bring the pain You cant see me Holla at me We aint hard to find All eyes on me Only God can Judge me Balled of a dead souja Till the end of time When we ride on our enemies Hell razor Dope fiends dinner Uppercut The song with elton John Ghetto gospel Hailmary Bomb 1st Blasphemy Krazy Hold ya head Aginst all odds 2 live n die in la California love And so many more ... These songs are some of the best songs ive ever heard .
@7000 likes Wack doesn't have a problem with Pac. 03 Greedo wasn't even around during Pac era. Malone and Wack are actually Pac fans. Cube and Ice T are known bustas and marks out here. Cube went on his campaign dissing NY with Westside connection lol so 🤷 who was Cube to speak on it and same as Ice T when T was rolling with Pac and Deathrow in 95 and 96. They did Saturday night live together.
@@elchurro7540 You left Coast guys rarely have your facts together… Wack has said Pac was not a real street dude like he portrayed And Ice T said he had a problem w Hit em Up because Pac never hit up any of his assailants from quad. “If your that mad why are you going to the studio?” - Facts
@7000 likes Wack said he wasn't a gangsta which is true ! Pac isn't. We gang bang out here . Pac was just a street dude. During this time Ice Cube and Ice T didn't have a problem with Pac hit em up. Pac made a comment about Cube and the Westside connection campaign dissing New York. You can even research that ya self. They released bow down and a whole album dissing New York. I doubt Ice T had a problem and said those things to Pac for the simple fact they was riding together and even did Saturday night live together. FACTS. Anything Snoop and Cube and Ice T said now I would take with a grain of 🧂 Now those are Facts !!!!! I'm in my late 30s and I can tell you for a fact, we all feel a certain way towards New York because of their biased and I'm a Sureno. Till this day we feel a certain way towards New York because of the biased. Facts ! From the gangstas our here to our local artists. So I doubt we all weren't on the same page with the NY thang.
The fact that ya'll can sit down and still talk about him 27 years later, have podcasts that people view and you get paid from it,is proof enough that he is a legend.
2pac is a Living Legend. Even got put in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and had a movie about Him, All Eyes On Me, around the same time. When He died from gun violence in 1996, people didn't believe that He was really dead. Years after His death He was still was coming out with new music and all of us, ME included, used to say in groups, I don't believe Pac is dead. That n#### still alive. Pac gave Us all something to talk about. And that is Greatness. This guy who is talking negative about, Pac, I do not know and I AM in My 40's. What I do know is that 2Pac was mentioned so I tuned in. This guy is invisible. A background singer wishing he could be David Ruffin (Pac). Respect 2Pac for the body of work He left behind for generations to study and enjoy. There will never be another. Shame on him. Knocking One of Our Greatest. The white folks respect 2Pac way more than the EVER will respect this guy. 💯 Thank You, 2Pac. Your music, heart, honesty, and strength got Me through alot of 💩. 27 years later...You are still The Greatest Of All Time.
Ohh no they wouldn't dare say that shit while he was alive lol.. All that "I'm 6'5" shit went right out the window when Pac was roaming these industry streets...Pure clowns. Blue made himself look real dumb on this podcast
He didn’t become Bishop…He was on a mission. This is what SOOOOO many people do NOT understand about Tupac. Check the FBI files about what Tupac was doing with the music.
Why do you assume he waited till now? Oh because it’s the first time YOU heard it? It’s not like he really famous. People having problems with measured thinking.