Joe Budden & KRS ONE's PROBLEM With Hip Hop's 50th Celebration 

Always puzzled me about our culture. We created something world changing while being dismissed, ignored, and insulted. But when the very same people and institutions that perpetrated all the hate realized that our creation had massive value and appeal. They quickly stepped in, removed us and remade it to their liking. Which is why today the term Hip Hop refers specifically to Rap music, or any commercialization of it's "urban" aesthetic. Which is also why most today consider early Hip Hop unlistenable and the cultures history a free for all. And when an actual curator of the culture speaks on this. They're quickly ushered into obscurity and labeled out of touch....Gatekeepers

Krs one has a huge point, I don’t blame him

I agree with KRS 1

The Hip Hop 50th at Yankee Stadium was the celebration for the culture.

Viewing hip hop as a business is the part of the problem with Hiphop today. A lot of business is following trends.

True but many cities did put on great 50 year parties that celebrated all the elements of hip hop. TRUE Skool threw a party in Milwaukee on our riverfront with breakdancers, graffiti walls, live DJs and artists from our city old and new including Arrested Development. One of the best days of 2023 for me. Thank you hip hop🙏💙

I really don't know... When was the last time Joe invited an old-school rapper to his show? They don't care about them, he doesn't care about them, it's just how the business is...

Thank You So Much For Having My B-Boy Pic In There From 1984... Great Hip Hop Culture Science Video!!!

So NaS and Mass Appeal celebration of Hip-Hop 50th at Yankee Stadium gets no Love? If you're going to crap on Grammys feeding of Hip-Hop 50th Celebration. You have to give credit to NaS and Mass Appeal for celebrating Hip-Hop 50th the correct way at Yankee Stadium and for the opening of Hip-Hop Museum in the South Bronx near Yankee Stadium on HH50TH week.

Been following for a while, sharing and commenting when I can… the energy is real. I been moving in the same direction and the proof …hell the soul, is in the pudding. Good stuff yo

This was the best one so far Great work very Inspirational

Bruh that track is blazing bruh keep grinding Curtis you doing major things brother.

KRS-One ✊🏽

Hip hop is Black America’s gift to the world. Old school hip hop started in the 40s and evolved

I’d be interested to hear Nas viewpoint on KRS comments…since Mass Appeal did a big celebration themselves

KRS ONE IS RIGHT ✊🏿 as a member of the painter union we pay dues monthly and have to act accordingly in public to keep our membership. There is a code of conduct we sign the moment we are join. And we honour that responsibility.

My instinct been saying same thing before this ish , direct to consumer worked well years ago when we was selling them cds out tha trunks ❤

bra...where have you been?! lol your content is fire! appreciated the POV

If JZ did half the things Nas did over the past 3 years (6 albums, world tour, 3 documentaries, hip hop 50, a foundation to give back to the legends etc...) they would be calling him the messiah of the culture for life!

i like the way you put it together other videos be having me open several tabs

GO GO MUSIC WASN'T INCLUDED NEITHER. WHICH CONTRIBUTED A LOT

After krs claimed we should consider a pedo infallible and above all law, I have not given one single word he has said any credence at all. That’s on top of all the other mess he has had to back pedal from his ‘history’ lectures. This channel is great otherwise.

I repsect all the artists that decided to perfrom at that event. I kno wthe Geto Boys had a major issue because they only invited Sacrface (my favorite MC) by the way, while at the sametime leaving Willy Dee out of the mix, and they did not make time or mention of Bushwick Bill RIP. I would not consider what The Grammies honors as true Hip Hop, because you can see the difference in spriit and opinion, from KRS-One to, Joe Budden himself. We need to take it back and challenge these "labels" now that the time is more rype! UMG is dissolving their entire redoring music division, because reording music is not as exclusive as it once was.

Krs supported bam on drink champs and i never looked at him the same again

This year ACTUALLY makes 50 years of HipHop, last year was a fluke 🧐💙👑🏁

Something amazing is ahead of the whole music industry...Kythrea Project 2024🎯

A Union could work but you would have to qualify to be part of it, like SOcial Security, you have to have generated so much streams, dollars, etc... in order to be part of the Union. But a Guild which is similar to the writers guild would benifit creatives greatly.

Wait, you saying that rappers are the only ones that were exploited in the music industry? Rockers weren't hated in the beginning? R&B singers? Until they see they can make money off of something, they leaving it alone and even hating the entire genre. I respect KRS-One for being there in the early days, but I was never hopeful of getting a KRS-One tape when I was a kid. Every memory I have of him is in interviews (Hip Hop documentaries and such). Hell, I just remembered he was in I'm Gonna Git You Sucka as himself.

I agree with the union thing though , I feel like hiphop needs a workshop program , school and was something we'd have to take a class for before we can apply for a record deal etc.....

I'm 37 this was nothing like the Source Hip-hop Awards in 1995. I think it was to commercialized and monetized. I want this show for adults not white washed for suburban families. I wanted it raw like a bootleg CD with your favorite artist who couldn't get the record deal.

Hip hop was the one thing we should've never shared with the world and I stand on that! Fukk the money

Krs is ego tripping .as usual. Nobody missed joe Budden being involved. I was at Yankee stadium. Frontrow. Great time! This is pure stupidity, why wouldn't you be involved in a celebration of the culture.

Curtis King is right once again!

Direct to consumer ❤

The thing about masters is, if you don't know what to do with them they are useless. Like giving you a car without the key.

Older rappers dislike the celebration because its hyper capitalistic and doesnt uplift the older rappers that built the genre. Theres no substance to any of it. Its just a corporation profiting off of a genre they thought would die within the first decade of its existence.

@kurtisskingTv Nas has honored rakim and Scarface with the hip hop grandmaster award foundation . Both got 500k each and nas label mass appeal was behind the biggest hiphop50 sold out event at the Yankee stadium all element of hip hop were represented even Krsone was there . What are you talking about ?

All I can say is, the Bridge is Ova, DYI 4 Life 😂Copy write and put it on a Tshirt. My gift 2u.

Wow,glad to see I'm in the right company. #ReNewEra of Hip-hop

Musical Revolution.

DEsperation always generates a yes. If your efforts have never garnered anything and now you get 10k for showing up, you might just attend. KRS and JB are 100% right.

Real listeners can smell a gimmick thats why if you aren't honest and transparent in your music then trying to be indie will not be for you. It takes a lot of sacrifice and heart. Plus indie music is for the cause first not the effect.

My one argument agsint this is that a lot of them didn't update and adapt with the times. They stuck around a system that no longer exists. Jay-Z is hated on but that's an example of an artist adapting with the times and their own brand

Does Curtis have a Bobby hermit sound bite at 2:42? That’s crazy

When dr Dre puts on Dj Quik I’ll be hopeful.

Benny is a stain on the culture rapping about negative stuff. What have either of them contributed that was good for the game. Better head to the bay and southern cali. Independent hustle was birthed there and still remains

What is culture a den of disabled elders or a suspension system of craftsmanship and honorable prerequisite theores?

I’ve read the majority of songs on Spotify have never been streamed

Music Industry is just RU-vid at this point. The Mr. Beast of Music (Drake, Cole, Kendrick) Make (made) all the money & have all the resources. Now, they're out! The OG's don't understand they can catch another wave. Like (usher), Usher music sucks today. But, he has the power to be independent and have ownership of It all.

I get it but what if all the consumers are wannabe artists?

Joe and KRS are absolutely right but if you're one of those that are busting your butt at 9 to 5 after the famous "but you I've been forgotten to time" you going to get up there and do that song and make that money they're going to give you because it's probably more than you have made...... In 10 years of working everyday job.

How much money do athletes have from 50 years ago? I love hip hop,also love sports…..it is what it is 🤔😢😭

Facts🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

G my instinct told me to go and be my own machine ;). Gone be dope

Whateva, KRS has another issue he doesn't want to acknowledge.

Be smart with your money when you get your hands on it

Period🎯🙌🏽

A hip hop union would go against the 1st amendment.

you so right

Facts all those old school rappers that showed up are a bunch of 🤡 that don’t stand on nothing

But KRS 1 did a photo op w the mayor of NY. Maybe times r changing some?

Nuttin but dookie chiklits on the ground!!!

Such haters but krs one performed Yankee stadium

KRS-1’s ego has him trippin!

To me BET awards were the worst of all, they were in the west coast and they couldn't get West Coast artists that dominated that 90's era? I like Warren G, but he doesn't have many hits that get played on West Coast radio, and sorry I just learned about YO YO a few years ago and when I was listening to the radio back then I don't remember that song ever being played. I wish they would have done a section of hip hop throughout the year starting with NY, then LA, then so on and so on.

I think he missed something at the end. Yes, you have to treat it as a business, but 1st, you have to treat it as an art. It, FOR SURE, has been treated as a lick for all these years since the internet and releasing to go viral on the internet.

Honestly. Black people cant be mad because we didn’t know it was the 50th anniversary until the day happened. No one did anything else.

What's the name of the song you play at 6 min?

That track was nutz.

Bro, the promotion of IP is lifelong. If your great grandchildren who inherited your IP does not promote that IP, they will not eat. Those OGs and others who came up in the game and someone else did the promotion, bad business model. As a DIYer, you know. Take the family of Marvin Gaye suing those people over Blurred lines. The Gaye heirs understood, their are no days off in the lifelong promotion and protection of Intellectual Property.

All facts 🙏🏽🫡

Hit the like at the album ad

Typical Kris😂

Why is Drake on that 50 Years Of Hip Hop poster???

🎯💯

They've been giving Hip-Hop Grammys since 1989. Whats he want them to do other than that? Its an award show. They hand you a statue. Its not really that deep

The problem is that you live in the hip hop bubble. There is music in life outside of this culture that most people who don't get to tour the world ignore. Hip hop with something at its Inception but lost everything when it's sold out. That was 1994. The fact that people are holding on to the genres just like the people in the 80s who are still holding on to disco. The time has passed dinosaurs. Stop acting like it's the hippest thing that ever happened. It had its time and that time is over.

KRS 1 wouldn't be happy with any celebration

I'm confused 😕 Why would African Americans celebrate a genre of music that they are not considered the greatest because if you took a survey of whose the G.O.A.T of Hip Hop Marshall Mathers aka Eminem will get mostly the votes. African Americans created Rock & Roll but Elvis is considered the king 👑 of Rock & Roll, African Americans created Hip Hop but Eminem will be the king 👑 of Hip Hop in 20 years, so remind me again why are we celebrating Hip Hop ? SMH

I had 40+ years of hip hop page on facebook bitd...no one gives a fk..and g+..

9:51-10:51 so reparations?

I believe the Yt rappers going to take it over just like they did rock. We dont protect what we create3

Budden is a clown.

Krs is soft he ain't doing nothing. His best friend died he did nothing. His voice is annoying His bars are terrible.

Hassan exposed krs one

Why is it that we always ask other do to the shit, why are they not doing it what not this, when we are not doing our self's. How much do we really care about our culture when we don't do nothing and beg other to do it. we stand on biz for the streets but not where it matters. Joe has one of the biggest platform in hip hop what he do, nothing, Jay Z and Puffy Billionaire off of this what they do nothing. Not even the biggest names in it what to do the work, but CRY that the work is not done. Is this Man shit. is that standing on biz?

Joe fooling himself on what good music is. As if payola never played a part in hits being created

Hes self projecting everything abouy himself. He aint never own his own. Got dropped by slimenem. He is lack luster. Who is he. His opinion means nothing. He shucked and jive. Talk about how you were a corny rapper. I see some haters😅

I would like to know who created that symbol on your cap 🧢. I see others as well on BL app but they have circles on the points. Maybe someone owes you funds if it's your trademark. I would look into that. Or is it just a part of the movement. I agree with all that was said on here from your opinion views to the others opinions for they are the ones wronged by selfish corrupt. For if it's not their wey way then it will never be our day way. No celebrations for us. I have a maestro who creates music for all our future. And has already shared some in present time inside the lab. Even when he doesn't publish the creators of the app are somehow listening or already knowing what he's created. I really feel that is how we are all being used. Your good at detective look into this C.K. Holmes. Let It Be Known.

Like your video BUT KRS KEEP IT REAL ON THE PANEL WE OWN THIS SHIT LL FAVOR FAV FRESH PRINCE AND ON AND ON COME ONE BULLSHIII

Hip Hop is too volotile for a union per say, BUT; what was needed and is just too late now, but what NEEDED TO HAPPEN was there be some sort of ELEVATED BOARD that was voted in , and to get a vote I dunno you have to qpply to this association of recognized True Hip Hop Card carriers of the spirit of the Culture and the Protectors of its integrity & its status, mission but it can never become something though that is corruptible or that can become the death merchants of its own cutlure. How? I dont knoe? But A Union is too much but there needed to be a really SUPER ELEVATED BOARD OF TRUSTEES that ALL OF HIP HOP essentially understood it functioned under as a way to remain protrcted and elevated ? All im saying is HIP HOP has been dead aince 2010 maybe earlier, and around even 2005? The ELEMWNTS OF HIP HOP THAT MAKE HIP HOP CUTLURE ARE ALL GONE - Nothing is celebrated any longer. WHERE THE F@%$! DID THE DJ GO? HUH?!? THE GREATS have never been replaced or had a passing of the torch Also, having a board could have saved Tupac and Biggie by not allowing or coming between what was a obvious set up and a overt ly dosgusting exploitation of the subtle gang affiliated aspects and the east coast /west coast war that was manufactured for record sales - that took at the time, THE TWO GOATS ; What became a vonstant ritual sacrifice and blood sacrifice after by the rqppers, culture and labels, who all took part and still do to this day; and we needed a Ethics committe... which is tough cause HIP HOP is by Nature, counter culture and anti authoritative ; for a reason, but is in its escape and artform , traditionally the healing force of the expression of the soul that sought to rid its people of the poverty, pqin, death, and suffering; by bringing an awareness to the infection by basicqlly creating a multi Element Rqin dance theough song and rhyme , art and sound, dance and fashion, and then spirit and soul ; that at times needs to have the ability to scream and to say what needs to be said - SEE HIP HOP immeidately was shackled and caught up by its same masters and slave owners it originallynintended to buck , and the money was too much to say no too after a while and we allowed the Azkanazis who RUIN EVERY CULTURE , To literally destroy everyong withbabFaustiqn bargwin before hip hop even got on its feet FREEHIPHOP shpuld have been a chant and a drive from the 90s on, to FIGHT BACK. DED PREZ Tried, to tell yall , no one listened, accept GENX portion of the 2000 movement of the Neo-Concious top , golden era 2.0 , lead by INDIE/ INDERGROUND & SMART , GENIUS, POLITICAL leaders of the artform that TRIED & again no one listened or cared. TOO MUCH RICHES WERE TO BE HAD - Yall allowed some of the most Disgusting plants to take over too, Busing& rapingvthe culture like Birdman, Diddy, DR. DRE etc. and nothing good came from anything in the long run, Hip Hop is DEAD - & even "Rap" as a culture? lol ALL YOU HAVE IS THE GENX HEADS from the Golden Era still pushing today, but the culture... its owned, 100% , the Spirirt van never be sold, which is why some of us fight on & endure, because WE ARE HIP HOP - not the labeks, the awards, the money or accolades & b.s. , THE PEOPLE are , we are the genetic DNA to a higher purpose served in TRUTH , while the duality if the loght, has always existed at the same time in parallel , we just never got the right thing put tigether as & fir a oversight/ethics/ moral/ spiritual / political committee that had yhe resoect & power to even snatch the chain off the dumb clowns and fools who dared to mixk and sellout at the expense and exploitation of the whole ! Had that ever been started or introduced , even as a mysterious, hardly seen or spoken of ROUND TABLE so to speak of the GODFATHERS AND THE O.G.S mixed with the new generation, with a ROME like approach of a closed door, "secret society" that was literally only known because of the good they seek and the POWER THEY HOLD - To the point wven where fear was a part of it - because if you dont fear those who you owe all due respect to for even being invited to soeak to the table to be given a offical stamp of approval? Then There is no power or say, Hip Hop instead allowed itself to be partitioned and oarcelled and sold to the EVIL side of this like the Black Boulet, the Masons, The Jews who say they are Jews and ARE NOT, the Labels and execs, the "illuminati" , Aka whatever power and stakes are beholden to a higher allegiance that IS NEVER A GOOD IDEA WHEN THEY ARE THE SAME POEPLE WHO SLAUGHTERED THE INDIANS, WHO SLAUGHTERED THE CHINESE, WHO play this nation like a game of chess and can and will do anything in their self interest they deaire ? Thats your JAYZ now and when it goes REAL SOUTH ? Thats where you see Kanye. And when it all starts to fall apart? Its why you see a new resurgance and rennaisance of sorts now for the kate 90s/early 2000s nostalgia trippin and cats is so sick of this B.S. we are seeing and hearing the original KNIGHTS OF THE ROUNDTABLE still speaking , like Black Star (even though Mos needs to get the F@%$! away from Talib and his cognitive dissonance and insane communist /eociqlist programming) But Qtip, 9th wonder, Little Brother, Mos, Dangelo, DEL, Automator, Hiero, Andre 3000, Etc etc... theres a there, there, firgotten, thats a pricess of moutning for all - & its felt like lising a entire nation , without any promise, & no time travelling abilities means , we lived through a beautiful time, sithout equal, & have to learn to say goodbye ,

Good vid. Krs part of the problem though. Major psychological issues being played out in the big show. K4RM4 break yall worst gr3EDy 8s. Gunners get summoned four B4L4NCE, 44♾️

Who cares what Joe or KRS think. They both sound like modern day women wanting money to celebrate hip hop culture.