I watched this when it first came out, read her book, and watched it again. I am able to feed my son tonight a nice dinner, donate clothes i don't want anymore, water my plants, inventory my pantry, wear jeans, call my mom who is 3000 miles away, laugh at a goofy video, place an order for vitamins. My life is rich beyond belief. I'm so very thankful.
Every American needs to hear this, it is so completely eye opening and we are so beyond incredibly blessed. Even our homeless live better than North Korea
@SaraBoBara5591 Given that it's way easier to pay someone a large amount of money to do what she does to propagate a certain viewpoint about North Korea, I'm not surprised americans buy her story wholesale. Then again, all their information is from a screen and not from personal experience. Most people aren't going to verify what she said on their own. Do a check on all the defectors and see how their life is going because this one woman is being used all the time in interviews. Where are the other defectors? South Korea definitely has them right? Wouldn't showing how well defectors are doing go a long way to convince more? Instead you get only a handful at most going on tour selling their stories and being used to shit talk North Korea.
@@wildesanity Okay thinking this is thats is fake have you ever visit a foreign country and learned the way of life no but i have and you may say wheres the evidence but again they are so poor on north korea how could they be talking about it if all they are trying to do is forage for food. Go fuck around and find out and go to north korea visit the provinces and see how they live or try living in poor peoples shoes and you would probably never even want to go trade your life for that 🤷🏻♂️
I have never been more grateful for my entire life than I am right now listening to this woman. What an absolute BEAST of a human she is.... may be tiny but she has incredible courage.
@@jameskrown3070 Multiple sources of her contradicting herself in interviews, both in print and on video. It is well documented of her telling wildly conflicting stories about the same event, such as her escape from Korea, witnessing an execution, surviving in -40 with barely any clothing etc. etc. I can't post sources, but it's fact, not conjecture upon my part.
@@thanekrios3211 Hey…Mr. RU-vid police… NOT… you’re not the RU-vid police. And if you don’t believe her, then why are you listening??? If you disagree with HER perspective of HER personal experience…go listen to some other video… You seem like a person who has not elevated his consciousness to the point where you can determine the truth of the situation by virtue of your intellect and not your mind… You…going around trying to make other people “wrong” doesn’t make you “right.” Also, perhaps stop allowing the media and movies to shape the way that you perceive your fellow man… I would also suggest some self examination on how the aspects of empathy and compassion have not yet developed inside of you… Good luck I believe in you and know that you can self-actualize yourself one day... Instead of allowing other peoples experiences to shift “your vibration/freedom.”
I was paying attention to when her voice cracks and I noticed that every time she gets filled with tears is when she’s discussing the pain of someone else that isn’t herself. I just wanted to point out how selfless this beautiful woman is🥹
I guess she does not take things for granted and will remain suspicious of any government that rules over her. Living in Germany, with its special history, I witnessed what happened here during Covid. Governments need to be controlled by the citizens much more active than we have done so in the West. Knowing this I too remain cautious and have trust issues with most of the authorities.
You're correct. Until I traveled the world, I didn't have a clue either. Most people don't have the money and will never travel like I've gotten to. I understand that. But I wouldn't lie about that. The rest of the world is so much different in comparison. We really have itmade here. People openly get on social media and talk bad about the government daily and it's just free speech here. That stuff will get you killed in other countries.
"Along my journey, I have seen the horrors that humans can inflict on one another, but I've also witnessed acts of tenderness and kindness and sacrifice in the worst imaginable circumstances. I know that it is possible to lose part of your humanity in order to survive. But I also know that the spark of human dignity is never completely extinguished, and that given the oxygen of freedom and the power of love, it can grow again." - yeonmi park
Nope , just that he knows that some of her claims are flat out lies . I mean NK is bad but some of the things she says like people pushing train is just BS
Yeonmi Park is a name everyone should know. This interview taught me so much, I had no idea how horrific it was in North Korea, I was astonished she could live through so much trauma and come out with hope and love. This instantly puts life into perspective, I pray with you all for a better world rid of the none sense that will focus on fixing the evil that exists.
She is incredibly brave, the "dear leader" lets everyone starve while he sends his minions to fly to France for cognac and McDonalds. He went to school in Switzerland so he knows how society should work, his sister may be worse than him.
@@Yotubez how is she a fraud? you can't just make claims like that. I have to say there's about 100% chance your opinion comes from a political standpoint? But please, tell.
I'm not saying NK is great but her story is pretty much fake, we are giving money and fame to someone who did not really went through what people in that country have
@@user-zm6yh3ux7l her own mom called her bs out. And there are a few online tv shows where park is seen, keep in mind these shows are South Korean. Finally she says she was in NK while she appeared in the SK shows, you are blindly following someone that is making herself rich from adults that don’t do research
@@Yotubez not exactly. Do a little bit of research outside of RU-vid my friend. I've studied North Korean defectors for over 10 years. English is their second language, they say stuff that often doesn't make sense but they all basically tell the same stories. Also served in the military and got to travel around the world. I've seen countries and how bad they can be. If you don't believe her, let her be. She's no doubt experienced horrible things as most defectors have. I'm a decorated combat vet and I no longer tell people I was in the military because instead of listening to your stories, the first thing they want to do is try to cherry pick them. People like that don't deserve to hear my story. I used to have a growing RU-vid channel back on RU-vid started up. It was getting popular. However, the world is so full of idiots that you can't tell your story and share it with the world. Very sad. I deleted my channel, gave away all my military awards I just don't talk about it.
@@user-zm6yh3ux7l I think you are not getting what I am saying, I do think that NK people go through shit most people can’t imagine. But this girl specifically lies about her experiences there, she did not experience the same as people there do. She is using the suffering of others for her benefit, she is the politician that sends people to war and profits from it.
I watched Yeonmi’s interview with Peterson and on the Shawn Ryan show. This story needs to be told. So glad she continues to get it out there. Pray for the world.
@@DeoOptimoMaximo85 Yep glad someone else knows. she has been proven a liar. From her old show in south korea. With the stories she would tell and make up. Or steal stories from the real underclass poor which is the majority in NK. She is a elite from a elite family in NK.
@@DeoOptimoMaximo85 Thank you.... I was waiting for someone to see through the BS as well. Anyone with a half a brain can pick through her bs and exaggeration. I'm sure there is truth to some of her childhood memories of the accounts she experienced, but it's mostly all bs. It's a book telling story for others to fall for and read.
I forget the exact quote but i remember one from the book 1984 that goes like, "So long as the people are not permitted to have standards of comparison, they wont even be aware that they are being oppressed"... Id say the Kim family took that to heart with how excellently/horrifyingly they keep millions of people prisoner
I’ve been following her story for years. It’s amazing. I’m so glad that she made it out and is telling her story. Americans need to take this as a lesson and a warning.
My thoughts too. Everyone should watch this....history teachers should play this in high school for the students. But then again, Marxism is being pushed in Government run public schools. F'g shame!
Yeonmi Park’s story needs to be shouted from the rooftops. Good job Joe. This has got to be one of the most powerful and meaningful episodes you’ve ever done. The woke mind virus has to be stopped at all costs. I’m going to keep praying for you Yeonmi, you keep putting out your message I’ll do my best to make sure people are aware of it.
FLMAO. The truth is she is milking this. it's all Propaganda. I'v talked to people from North Korea (Yes they allowed them 10 years ago to go to college in the USA) its not as bad as this. She's milking it and makes a living off of it.
@@IslandCity2024 PHEW!!! FINALLY someone who gets it! The comments on here are terrifying arent they. Meanwhile they are marvelling at "how N Koreans are brainwashed"! lol
It's very easy to do my friend. Until I joined the military and got to travel, I had no clue. I would get mad when I was a kid because my parents wouldn't buy me things that my friends had. That's laughable now. Our freedom gives us the illusion that we have problems that we really don't have here. We argue about the silliest things in America as I'm sure you're aware. I tell everybody I come across that if they ever want to see what the rest of the world is really like, go travel. Just go to Mexico.
I wish more Americans were aware of the excess of opportunities we have. We take our Freedoms for granted, we are so lucky to live here, respect for Yeonmi!!!
not only do we take it for granted, but many people actively sabotge themselves and slight the oppportunities they are given only to turn around and blame "society", "the system", etc.
@@Rugmunchersauce3 to be honest we are not free. the western world has not been free since the world wars. they still let us be free for the most part but they have overturned all the laws already and are using the boiling frog method so our kids or grankids will live in a world government run exactly like china. "the hour of the time: the treason series" is a great source breaking down the fact the constitution is no longer in force and listing the traitors who did it.
This is another day i Thank God, that I was born in the USA...This sweet young lady has seen the worst of the worst and she still has such a sweet demeanor and is so full of gratitude. This Lady here is a true, honest, good to the soul, person through and through, bless her heart and soul ❤🙏
Her book In Order to Live is definitely a must-read. It had me in tears and made me see things differently, making me so grateful for everything I have. When she mentioned that her journey is similar to the fictional book The Hunger Games, she wasn’t lying. Her story of survival and escape is truly remarkable.
@@dan-bz7dzyou do realize almost everyone who escaped, tries to stay under the radar because they fear that Nord Korea would find them and bring them back and/or worse? Christians have knows what goes on over there for about 15 years now, what are you yappong about no one else talking about it? Just 'cause you didn' t hear about it doesn't mean it ain't true. It takes some big balls talking about that as someone who escaped that so show some sympathy and stfu
North Korea has *_NUKES_* so just what is the rest of the world supposed to do?? If the Axis powers had had such weapons... they would still be here today, wouldn't they!?
I'm sorry but it's very naive to think you can do much about it at this point of consolidation of power. Unless you want to wage a liberating war. Which Russia and China will never allow.
It doesn't really make sense though. Also I just watched a nearly 3 hour presentation on NK, they know... especially border-region populations. When you literally have to put on a show like you're having fun at a carnival whenever "tourists" show up (at a park you aren't allowed to even see otherwise) there's no way it doesn't at least cross your mind. Not like they can do anything about it though...
She’s a fraud, it’s well documented. Her story has changed every year. When her and her mom were in South Korea they were on a show where defectors are interviewed. Her mom said on the show that Yeonmi was too young to remember anything about North Korea and that they lived privileged lives there. Think about is, she said North Koreans are so hungry that there are bodies floating in the river, which is laughable in itself, why would there be bodies floating in the river? If North Koreans are so emaciated to the point that you can see their organs, how exactly are they pushing a train across the country?? A team of bodybuilders couldn’t do that. This so worse than “WMD”, it’s so obviously propaganda.
Been watching her since she first escaped. One of the toughest, strongest , most resilient human beings I have ever read about. Her story is beyond powerful.
I'd never heard of Yeonmi Park before, I saw a short video about her book somewhere. She's AMAZING. It's incredible how much she's been through but she's still out there fighting. I did a google search of Yeonmi Park there are those who think badly if her but I don't listen... I never will.
I will never be the same person that I was before watching this video and Im not even 1/3rd of this video. Thank you for sharing and my heart is in pieces.
@PeakFictionWithAms FYI there are dark forces working against this young woman here. As you can see these random commenters calling us gullible and saying she is lying seem like they are bots from China. They are in almost every comment on this video saying the same things. Wow! She is a powerful woman to bring such a response. I hope she stays safe.
@@anastasiamitchell3855 yeah I noticed that. I just assume they're North Korean PR or incels sitting in their mother's basement having food and shelter without doing anything in their life besides watching anti woman content.
THIS GIRL ... is the bravest woman in the world. Overcoming true oppression and having the courage to speak about it and challenge the regime and sharing her personal experiences requires such great strength. I truly admire how far she has come. More people should hear her story. Bless her and little boy 🙏❤
because she is trained that way. Honestly what she is doing isn't wrong, but she is a propped actor for nato and a PR tool against North korea propaganda, but her story has so many holes and things that are so unreal... Like she hiked across the desert from north korea to Mongolia at night during winter? It is -50 to -80 there. Most American cant find that place on a map and she takes advantage of that. She tell her escape story that even navy seals couldn't do on their own, but a starved unhealthy north Korean girl did? Come on... Koreans are known for making things up. North or south doesn't matter they lie and make shit up all the time and make them selves look better then everyone else.... Once you pick that up about their culture... I mean it goes back to Perry... Koreans sunk an american explore/battle ship and killled on the Korean shores call the sailors who sought help over a 100 years ago... The fed government sent ships looking for them and there was wreckage and proof and they lied about not knowing anything about it and even made stuff up. Just llo at who she is married too and that korean show she was on and the NGO that aims are countering north korean propaganda and mission is to discredit north korea. I think it was a vice or BBC doc. What she is paid to say is neither true or untrue. It's just propaganda. I honest I don't care for propagandists any way they work.. Propaganda is dangerous. Instead of her I rather have a honest convo about north korea and what trump did was better then just doing this combative stuff which only drags us into conflict in the long run and war is just so stupid now that we could end up making one mistake and destroy our selves... Just look at Libya and what happened to Europe right afterwards. Now Europe is like a second north Africa. These wars are causing all the is chaos we see in our world. She is the same type propagandist tool that got us in war in Iraq twice funded by the same people too. propaganda leads to more bad outcomes, but the only people who benefit from it is the 1%. Just be careful and don't buy into it.
1.she was exhausted to think once given free choices, 2.her body system couldnt digest modern food, took two 〜three yrs.bubble water hurt her throat.3.her feeling came first time in life when she had a son, 4.after all going thru traumatic events, she absolutely didnt need to talk w a therapist. She unveils lots of facts of truth of this side coming from that side 💫
I have followed her story since she first spoke at 17. It makes me so happy and humbled to see people still learning her story. It amazes me that people are still learning and that it’s not well known. Thank you for keeping her story alive, Joe🙏🏼 I hope she continues the interviews and awareness. Every American every person needs to know what is going on.
The fact that western democracies simply allow marxists to exist and operate freely in their society Is absurd to me, specially in face of stories like this one. The mere existance of iorganizations like the DSA and personalities like Hasanabi are, at least for me, the irrefutable evidence that americans don't value what they have, while also dooming themselves to eventually losing everything. The price of peace is eternal vigilance, but the west is currently refusing to pay any attention to the approaching catastrophe.
This is my first Joe Rogan podcast. And it took me a lot of courage to continue watching this and listen to Yeonmi Park's experience. I had to take several breaks.... I don't know what to say....I want to say I am happy that Yeonmi is safer now, but thinking there are millions still there, and after having gone through all these, I don't know if Yeonmi will ever be truly happy again, she will be constantly reliving the pain and thinking about them. I hope she fully heals soon, and I hope the leaders of the world would do something about the situation in her country.
After listening to the first 2 minutes, and hearing first hand accounts of Cubans who SWAM to Miami to get away, I ask any intelligent person to ask "why do we want Marxism again?" This is the fruit of Socialism and Communism. 🎤 P.S. I know Joe is Empathic AF, like I am, so I was feeling Every bit of pain that her memories carried. You can't fake pain and suffering like that.
Yeonmi - I thanked you back when I first saw your channel, and I thank you again now! With the specifics you shared about treatment experienced I was in tears...keep speaking your story whether it seems people are listening or not. You Tube is now the largest news outlet on the planet!
Anyone who cries about their life because something didnt go their way should watch this interview. after hearing this woman speak about what she has lived threw my problems are not even close to problems anymore. they are just inconveniences. Holy Sheit!
This was an interview I didn’t realize I needed, but glad it came up on my feed. The understanding, insight, and jewels provided through Yeonmi Park experience and journey from North Korea to America is really priceless. One of my favorite interviews on JRE that is truly a hidden gem.
Everyone should hear Yeonmi Park speak. Thank you Joe for having her on your show. I too fear for our country and how it is slowly slipping away to nonsense. I love my country and am so happy to have Yeonmi as a fellow American.
As a daughter of a woman who is both North and South Korean I have heard so many stories. My mother passed away when I was only 17, but I recall the fear in her voice and tears that were shed on a constant basis. Sadly I discredited her memories and often viewed her as someone that was simply exaggerating. Truth is, this was beyond my comprehension. Therefore, I disregarded it, “out of sight, out of mind”. This breaks my heart on a whole other level and I am truly embarrassed for allowing my ignorance for so long. Unfortunately, it’s too late for her to feel believed by someone who meant the most to her. I just wish I could hug her.
To the media company personnel that refuse to set foot in Texas because of some of the residents' political stances: Here we believe in freedom, and especially political freedom. Texas is very close to a 50/50 split politically, with a slight lean to the right. I don't look down on my neighbors that have opposing views, we live here together in freedom with respect for one another. Also, thank you Joe Rogan for speaking out for us.
Thank you, Joe. If you didn't air this interview, I wouldn't have known this existed. Thank you for connecting this amazing woman's story with our current American political climate and how easily we can become like North Korea under China's thumb. I had no idea.
Im a grown man, that doesnt use the word love, never hugged my mother or father before. Very strong spirit that can not be broken, i got choked up 2 or 3 times listening to just the first 30 minutes. There are people in this world that need to be eliminated, why cant we just let people do what they want and leave them alone?
Joe, this by far was the most astonishing, horrific, important interview you’ve ever done. Hard to express that most other matters…..are insignificant in perspective.
She’s a propagandist, her pockets are being lined with money from right wing think tanks. “Sometimes they have to push the train” lol, if they’re so malnourished how the heII are they supposed to push the train? Why would there be bodies floating in the river? Why would there be piles of bodies at the train station? This is on par with the anti-Iraq propaganda the government pushed in 1991 and again in 2003.
“The North Koreans are so emaciated that you can see their organs, there are bodies floating down the river and piled up at the train station”. “The train has no electricity so sometimes they have to push the train.”…….🤦♂️ A team of roided-up bodybuilders couldn’t push a train. Do you mean to tell me North Koreans who are starving to death are somehow strong enough to push the train? 😂🤣😂 You guys are naive.
@@fatherson5907 I’m a registered republican. You’re naive. She works for the Koch brothers. Look into it, she has been caught changing her story many times over.
good luck anti communist ideology is not allowed in the schools anymore they push this ideology they do not want you to understand the federalist papers they do not want you to understand freemarket capitalism they do not want you to be an individual and have freedom they do not want you to know schools are designed after communist's schools to indoctrinate the children.
@@brendongray5929 i mean until we destroy the school system you aint getting shit its directly copied from socialist russia our schools are socialist indoctrinaton centers designed by russia and brought over by american commies. schools will never be fixed until we destroy the school as we know it today. its like trying to fix a socialist country YOU CANT DO IT, the system needs torn down and rebuilt completely different. have you not noticed the way schools are set up?its all designed to create students who just do what they are told to prepare them for working in a controlling society. they stifle free thinking its all around a horrible design to teach children to be entrepreneurs or inventors ect.
Thank you so much for sharing her story. I’ve never been so moved. I admire her strength. And she has such a beautiful soul. Thank you, Yeonmi, for telling (reliving) your journey in this amazing 3 hour podcast. I’m so humbled. I love you.
Every time Yeonmi's voice starts breaking up, my heart shatters & sinks to the ground. This girl is an angel to speak of love the way she does & to live it, even after all she has been through.❤❤
@@JinSakai_Kuroudo how come? isn't this supposed to be a free comment section? where I can ask who ever I want? its not as if I am Holding a gun to his head to answer How about You mind your own Business who are you to tell me what to do or what not to do.
For all the mainstream media cries about the danger of the "far right", (which usually means classic liberals and centrists these days) people here have seem to have forgotten about the danger of the far left. Which is why the testimony of Yeonmi Park and others like her is greatly needed.
@@RandOm-hr5jn when you call everyone who disagrees with you “far right” “fascist” and “nazi”, it cheapens the meaning of those words and it is an insult to people who suffered under the real thing. I can think of many examples of people from personal and public life who by all definitions, are classically liberal yet have been given the “far right” label. JK Rowling is a famous example. And as far as I know she doesn’t have one of those 1930’s tattoos. She was a single mother, victim of domestic abuse, who used her money to donate to charities for abused women, she even made a major character in her book (Dumbledore) retroactively gay. She was celebrated as a feminist and philanthropist. And because she dared to use her voice to give her view on protecting women’s spaces she was smeared and given all the labels. While I am opposed to actual far right, the far left is just as evil, both historically and today. And today, I see a lot more fascist behaviour and intolerance, more willingness to silence opposing views, from the left than from the right.
I am lost for words. What she went through is unreal to us Americans. Her story is like a combination of the books 1984 and the hunger games. Unbelievable.😮
I first heard this woman with Jordan Peterson. Her story is sobering, eye opening and hard to hear. It’s important to hear though! For all of its faults, America is so much better than many places. Her stories of how students are being brain washed in universities was startling but I believe her.
Sobering and very awakening, to how fortunate we are, no I never went to bed hungry or ate rats, this reduced me to tears hearing this. If anything I learned a lot.
America still has its evils and how messed up Korea is makes me feel nothing but sorry that we don't have our sh together so we can't help more even if we wanted to. I'm glad I got luckier but it doesn't change how I feel about alot of our problems at home. Theres always someone worse off tho so yes, it is good remain grateful.
@@drewhempwood2113 Her problems will soon be your problems, don't delude yourself. If you haven't smelled the stench moving your way in the last 10 years... you've been sleeping.
She lied about mostly everything. Just look it up and see what her family thinks about all the lies she tells. Am I defending NK? No. Am I defending honesty? Yes. She went through some bad stuff and decided to profit off her story, but let it get to her head. Look up what her sister has to say about all the things she says.
I heard similar stories before about north Korea. But hearing from Yeonmi Park, who were a first hand witness, were both horrific and heartbreaking. Thanks for coming on Joe Rogan's show and let us know. Hope the world will change one day for a brighter future. Regards from Denmark.
I'm so glad that I stumbled across this interview this young womans story needs to be told I'm surprised that not many platforms are interviewing her also she's only been in America for about 10 years yet she understands it better than those who've been here there whole lives.....
As a Finnish woman I think this "holding a door for someone" thing is ridicilous. It is really nice if someone holds a door for me (a man or a woman) and I do it too. I could not care less if they had some weird motives. If I have some stuff to carry and someone makes it easier for me by opening a door, I am just thankfull. I won't ask for a reason, why they did it!! 🤪
This is a weird US thing ... Here in Europe it is considered being a gentleman to treat a woman like a lady and hold the door for her. All this crap they talk about I really hope stays on the other end of the pond 'cause if someone gets mad at me for holding the door for them I may loose it ...
@@zapbulon Nah, the rest of the US doesn't claim that behavior. Only in democrat states do people get offended for that nonsense. Most people were raised with manners to open a door, especially for a lady or old people. I can't say the same for the new generation though. Finger crossed, but the education system is fucking the youth.
person from Finland gaslighter this is your concern holding doors open from for somebody this is what you got from the context of this horrific ongoing slavery communism oppression Etc etcetera find another place to vent
I live in the southern US and I hold the door for everyone, even other grown men. It's a courtesy. Be kind to others and treat them how you'd want to be treated.
@@dan-bz7dzconcerning how? Not saying your wrong but you thinking it is immediately obvious is a clear sign of very low intelligence on your part. Source or stop
Listening to Yeomni's story changed my entire perspective on life. What she described going through taught me that I am incredibly lucky and blessed to have the life I have. All my ordinary problems seemed like absolute nothing compared to what she's been through and what people in NK are experiencing right now. Can't wait to buy and read her book. Her story should be taught in schools so this ever happens anywhere else in the world.
Rage, deep sorrow, shock, pain.... I think it's harder when you're the one talking to the person who has suffered. Just listening to this is hard, but we don't have to maintain an external image of calm and composure while staying on point and keeping the conversation going. Joe Rogan did an excellent job.
Yeonmi Park, you're so brave and smart, you dare to stand up for the truth and talking about evil things of communism, I really admire and respect you, love you ❤
An eye-opening and humbling experiencing from watching this video. Yeomi is an exceptionally brave human being that deserves to have her story told, and I am glad Joe has given her the platform to do so.
Thank you Yeonomi for sharing! What a solider to push through all the obstacles to be free! You inspire me! Shout out to Rogan for keeping composed throughout the sad stories, Champion!
I'm so glad to hear her story and I now know that she exists. Bless this lovely lady and thank you for helping her get her word out. We need this more than ever in this country right now.
@@dan-bz7dz You need help.. Everything she said we know is happening in NK and China.. for a fact, you just ignoring shows how real this denial of reality because you want to protect your ideology, while claiming she is a liar, how appalling, this really does show how inept people are.. i mean can you prove shes lying, because i'd say most of your claims can be written off as the miss remembering of young child that went through something traumatic, so she thought her dad was in jail for 17 years instead of 10... lol ok.. What about the communist regime in china? we know they are keeping slaves there, muslim slaves, in the hundreds of thousands if not millions.. and that their rate of organ transplantation is higher than their organ harvesting rate, where are all these EXTRA organs coming from? Stop burying your head in the sand, this woman can be tracked right back to north korea, shes on their damn hit list, and what would compell a 80 lb woman to put her life in this grave danger if not being compelled by something she feels she has to do..
