@@clarkecorvo2692 Dana did it purely to save the promotion and for the fans. It’s why when he goes the UFC will struggle during difficult moments like that.
The fact joe went into the octagon knowing he’d have to confront him like that after seeing him throw around his opponent like it’s nothing is a testament to the size of joes balls.
Why would you need big balls to interview a fighter after a fight. I’m sure Joe is a respected man and a capable fighter but he’s not walking into a lion’s den.
He's lying about he's weight. Can't make the weigh-in, can't fight! That's just fuck'ed up, that they allowed this. If that was a title fight he would not be a legit welter-weight fighter, so it would not be a proper competition. It will destroy the organizations believe-ability. They are not trust-worthy when you can't believe their word. What a fuck up!
The whole point of weight cutting is trying to cheat the weigh in anyway you should be randomly weighed 24 times a year or twice a month for those of you that can't do math and your average weight from all 24 weigh-ins is your weight class or if your going to continue to wait cuts if you miss the weight cut you have to fight in the class that you just fell into for the next 4 fights and since you have now ruined the event it will be free to all those in attendance out of your paycheck which is why you will owe four fights in the next weight class
You're 100% right. Dana was getting revenge on Nate... He was LITERALLY feeding him to the wolves (Chimaev)! 🐺 I'm glad that he fought Ferguson instead.
@@UncleRuckus7600 No he's been fighting at 170, and his last fight he was supposed to fight Diaz at 170 he weighed in 9 pounds over weight, so they had to change the fight to him fighting Kevin Holland at 180 catchweight, on 1 days notice.
@@UncleRuckus7600no its not cheating and doesn’t tarnish nothing that would mean 100s of fighters legacy’s are tarnished everyone cuts weight bro its the unfortunate part of the sport khabib cut massive amounts pereira cuts massive amounts literally everyone dose
Joe Rogan interviews black holes asking: why cant you respect time symmetry like the rest of us? Blackhole: *sucking intensifies* Joe: you want a piece of me???
@@cholodude97 he meant take but he said make. On the other hand the dude didn’t come here to speak perfect English. His mission is to Just murder every opponent and take the money
idk why out of all the amazing fighters over the years you could watch you choose this man. we have had fucking Jon Jones, gsp, and Connor in the last decade ofc khabib but his style might not entertain people unfamiliar with the sport.
Khamzat: "I was supposed to make the weight as well, but doctor stop me" "The guy said to me, the doctor. You have to drink water and vitamins and shit" Some clueless dickrider on RU-vid: "Doctor said I'll die from dehydration if I don't drink water. Joe: I have to confront this bullshit"
Well he does fight at 185,& is also undefeated at 185 too, so it wouldn't necessarily be a "punishment" to him, he's just closer to a TS at 170, & wants to eventually be a double champion.
@@jonhall2274 exactly haha idk what all these losers in the comments are sour about.. is it cuz he muslim? maybe because he is Chechen/Russian? Maybe because a combo of both? Ahahah people be hating on the mountain warriors
@@Ellen_de_Ling It's simply saying that he is not in this weight-class. He's obviously five pounds to heavy for that. This is so laughable because even the doc says he can't do it. I mean: WTF? Are we really going to be this way? Well i guess there really is no honesty among thieves.
@@Ellen_de_Ling Perhaps because he weighs in at 8.5 pounds over, and therefore when he’s fighting the next day and not dehydrated he’s probably well over 185-190. Nobody cares about the rest you clown 😂
@@99prxp I used to wrestle at the bottom of a weight class (9 lb weight classes, I was typically 7-8 lb under). It was nearly impossible to win against guys at the top of that weight class, with an 8 lb advantage. I could tell the difference against the guys that were in the middle of that class, and had a much better record against them. Having weight classes makes sense. There's not a practical solution to preventing weight cutting -- would you have people make weight for an entire week straight? They'll just cut weight for that whole week, and there's a good chance that becomes a serious health problem.
@@FadingSwordsmanthere's a reason he didn't include what the restructuring is, because nothing would be perfect. PS. Why didn't you just cut 2 pounds fatty?😂
@@99prxpwhy not institute a urine gravity test to measure hydration at weigh ins so fighters have a limit on how much they can dehydrate to cut weight Additionally you can do any doping tests if wanted at weigh ins as well
I'm just a casual, but I still think that the way weight is made or not made is weird. If so many people are just temporarily dehydrating themselves if they don't have enough fat to lose, then that alone would make performance suffer would it not? Why not just keep water weight out of the question entirely.
Kevin Holland was an absolute beast at attempting to survive in the cage. Last minute change of opponent's too. I still want to see D-Rod vs Holland though.
I still think Khamzat missing weight was intentional by the UFC. They saw how much everyone loved Nate and they knew Khamzat would destroy him so they intentionally made him miss weight, they got another fighter in 24 hours to take Nate’s spot, then they gave us the real money fight with Tony and Nate. The Tony and Nate fight would’ve doubled sales because they know the UFC fanbase love both warriors to death and it’d be far more entertaining for us. I don’t buy for a second that Khamzat missed weight by 8 pounds only for him to get a better ranked contender in last minute while simultaneously giving us a way better card and putting two granite chinned (at the time) warriors in Nate and Tony who both have dog in them against each other. Worked out way too good to be a coincidence
I think you’re bang on the money, I know this sounds counterintuitive because of his dogshit English but listen to his choice of words, he’s trying to say they wouldn’t let him cut down to welterweight so that he couldn’t fight Nate, he has no issues with making weight otherwise
@@senrensor4182 Exactly. Khamzat has never missed weight in his career, then suddenly right before the fight he misses it by 8 pounds and fights a better ranked opponent to bump him up the rankings in middleweight? Yeah definitely suspect. I’m convinced the whole thing was a set up because Dana saw the sales weren’t what he wanted so he did it for more PPV buys and to really sell the story that Khamzat is the “bad guy”.
99 percent of the time? Nah. He's a great and intelligent open minded dude would a good head on his shoulders. But he is human. He is uneducated in a variety of areas and is a dumbfuck in some, and a genius in others. Like most ppl. He gets a lil bit lost in some of the conspiracy brain rot. But he's a respectable dude for most anyone.
The satisfying part of the whole fight is that it was canceled 2 times prior. Kevin tried to make a fool out of Khamzat and the entire community downplayed him. And then when Kevin had to prove his shit, he was put down like an animal.
@@shirayuri4345 not many will se it but imo holland is a big clown , always talking in and out the cage, he’s the least scary fighter always complaining or complementing his opponents in the cage , and you could argue this but his striking and ground skill are nothing crazy , I can’t even imagine someone savage like Prime Connor would do to him , most people who fight him has at least felt some sort of empathy toward him, he was never met for UFC…
8.5 lbs up or down aint jack shit for someone that size... I'm someone who generally walks around at around 143 pounds ( I have been doing alot of exteme sports in my life where its preferrable to be on the light and lean side and going up 8.5 lbs in a month or going down around that in around two weeks isnt even a problem for someone like me... Granted... according to the BMI charts 143 lbs it he actual perfect weight for me....
Ah yes the classical one liner retard appeared on the scene so you know what... I will give you more answers to the question you did not ask. Does it look to you like I would give a fuck about some clown on the internet expressing his opinion and trying to be an edgelord? Not really you ass 🤡so since, again, nobody asked then I am just going to continue explaining. Matter of the fact is that if a 145 pounder can go up and down 8.5 lbs with ease whenever I feel like it then it clearly is not alot is it? 3 months, one extra meal a day and a few extra leg exercises 2x to 3x a week and I will be walking around between 170 and 180. Speaking from experience here by the way. You could say putting on that much is a lot... but even that is achievable pretty casually if you ask me. Why do you think khamzat had that face when he was asked about the weight and he had to mention about the UFC doctors screwing it up for him?
Nate Diaz that has the endurance of an absolute beast unlike this guy, if it'd gone five rounda which it would have, Chimaev wouldn't have looked too good in the last couple of rounds
@@starwarsroo2448 it would be amazing cuz everyone fears him but nate has insane endurance and durability and isnt scared I thinnk nate submits him last rounds
In highschool I wrestled against a kid 10 lbs less than me. His school didn't have enough wrestlers to have a full roster so they moved him up a class. I got a warning for throwing him around too much. 10 lbs doesn't sound like a lot but I had to actually go easy on him not to disqualify myself
I got a track scholarship, doing Olympic lifts in the off-season I put on 10lbs lol. My knees were hating me so much but I went home and tossed my brother around the house after first semester. Even though he had more grappling and fighting skills lol
being in this crowd really changed something in me, ive never bood a fighter till this khamzat situation. you could feel the hatred from the crowd and you could feel the hate radiating back out from him. surreal moment and awesome fight.
its why we love rogan.. he doesnt have anything stopping him from asking tough questions even when UFC/dana dont want anyone asking that question.. props to dana and the ufc too for keeping the guy on although they also know if they canned rogan the fans would lose their minds
The doctor made him stop the cutting, that what he means. Water to rehydrate is dehydrated body, vitamins bc weight cutting and it’s subsequent malnutrition is arguably one of the most dangerous part of the sport
Come on man he fucked up the weight cut big time end of him and his team didn’t manage it well enough leading upto the fight the doctor IF and a big IF said you need to take on some fluids or you’ll do irreversible damage that’s on them
“Doctor said to stop cutting weight” while saying I want to fight for the title at the weight the doctor told me to stop cutting weight for. That looks and smells like ass.
@@crookieee I agree my comment was sarcastic. If the Dr said to stop because of his health to me that means that weight class is past him, move up where you belong and be accountable. Meetup the whole promotion that fight because he can't make the weight
@@sean5364 I understand but if it becomes dangerous to weight cut then it's not your division. Weight cuts are simply to be the biggest guy after weight in, in boxing 8lbs is a huge difference between fighters.
Kevin Hollard has saved so many UFC fight cards by taking last minute fights. I remember his first fight in the UFC he took it with just hours notice. Dana White better be taking care of this man because Kevin has saved his ass at least twice.
@@Wallyworld30 I love that. Reminds me Sakuraba. Just willing to take those fights even if they aren't advantageous. I love it. These dudes do the fans solids
"The doctor's stopped me" Damn, and they can't even get my nan's prescription right. Dude got them busting his door down and stealing his gym equipment
Well, it's not really that he gained too much muscle. Fighters like Connor McGregor and and every other fighter like Khabib dehydrate themselves badly at the weigh in, your body is 70 percent water so you can lose a lot of weight. Then in between the fight and the weigh in they drink a lot of water and gain all their weight back so they can have a lot more muscle. Some fights are won by how well they can dehydrate themselves. Bascially, the doctor made him drink water. So he would've made the weight but the doctor didn't let him. Just look up connor mcgregor before and after weigh in.
@@kadenwhiteaker I was having this conversation with my mate last night and he informed me of what you just said and I had no idea that was the case. But obviously money hungry Dana White needs his money, so this was gonna happen regardless of his weight. Too many paying customers
No wonder UFC hired Joe to interview these monsters because anyone asking that in octagon will get smacked but they respect Joe and also know Joe know Jujitsu too
Yeah if the fighter wants to potentially get banned from the sport. You really think they're that stupid to attack an employee over a question, on camera?
Lmao. High fives are only for before the bell. Once the bell rings, its game f@#ckin on. Kevin was scared shitless, so that high 5 was like a gesture to say take it easy on me. Khsmzat was not having it.
be happy that he did that cause he would maul your boy for 3 rounds straight,you think he couldn't take kevin "no grappling" holland down whenever he wanted ? are you crazy ? 😂😂😂
You gotta understand. Most fighters try to gain a ton of weight from weigh-ins to fights. But 8.5 pound lead is brutal. It may not sound like a lot, but it translates into a massive advantage in so many ways. Shouldn't have let him fight.
@@AnthonyShuker Water. A pint's a pound the world round. You cut water weight to make weight, then put it back on after the weigh-in is over. 8lb is making up a gallon of water (Which is 8 pints).
Then they'd just be fighting dehydrated. Need to find a way to keep it reasonable without jeopardizing fights that close to showtime. Maybe checking the levels of hydration. Or weighing them a week out and everyday before the fight. Giving them an acceptable range.
@@roybatty-you don't think people would fight even a little dehydrated? What happens when someone misses weight 2 hrs before the fight? Do you think the promotion is willing to take that chance? I would do a lot of things before I put myself in that position if it was my business. I would much rather see people fight at their natural weight. But I don't see how it wouldn't be just more of the same. Maybe weight them everyday for a week leading up to the fight and monitor their hydration.
@@ElWhip82p I’m a fan of Diaz but you will never convince these Diaz army dorks that he was an overall entertaining guy and a decent fighter but not near the best. His gift being his ability to stay upright against better fighters and then smack em around once they gassed out. Had this fight gone ahead, he would have been mauled from start to finish. Facts
7.5 lbs not 8.5 overweight, and only cause athletic comission stopped him from cutting. Holland weighed in at 180, Chimaev at 178.5 (171 was the ww weight limit so again 7.5 over)
one time when I wrestled, I was at this tournament called the Jerry mida. I weighed in at 140 and was wrestling in 2 classes 140,145.. my team had our 135 fall out. and I was asked to drop 5 pounds in 6 hours. I lost 5.8 pounds. Made weight then boosted with vitamind and rehydrated. came back 4 hours later for the tournament weighed in at 147pounds. I went on to win all 3 classes back to back 21 matches.. still hold my high-school record for the last 15 years. make weight is not hard at all him missing 8 and a half pounds just says he planned on it
He would ABSOLUTELY be nothing if he fought in the weight class he should be in, instead of cutting down so hard to fight smaller guys that a doctor has to stop him for his health🤣
What are our problems? Scoring,shootmaking,shot creation and 3 and d wing depth. Zach fixes 3 out of 4 things.. then we can look at a team like nets and get a guy like Royce o Neal for seconds. The lavine trade other than the contract or injury I don’t see any other problems with it. Dude is a klay esque fit on this team. He provides the one thing both our stars lack, the chemistry would be amazing.
Its a fight..be ready for anything. Im not a khmzat fan but when ref says fight thats what were doing..ur taking a chance if ur gonna come at someone to high five..all the sportmanship is done by then
Better question: Why Is everybody Ignoring that he went for a feint jab, not a glove touch to set up the take down, like he did In his fight with Li Ji Liang. And they already touched gloves previously before the fight. But hey I guess ya'll are shameful and sour haters to the core...
He would have ripped Diaz a new one. The best thing that’s ever happened to Diaz and it did not hurt the promotion. Heck even Diaz was crying cause he was gonna have to fight him and I like Diaz. Just about everyone was crying cause they were gonna fight….
Whether the gloves got tapped or he prepared for a wrestler definitely wouldn’t have made a difference. These guys from down there are clearly different beasts
@@username-yc3bd an mma fighter should be able to prepare for all possibilities of the fight, whether it's on the feet or on the ground hence my comment hope I simplified my point more than it already was!
I don’t know how nobody can see this. He did that shit on purpose, and he’s a good man for doing so. He didn’t want to fight Nate, he knew Nate was done with the ufc after that fight and he was set to fight Nate on purpose because he would have absolutely demolished him. That was horse shit, so he missed weight to not fight the dude, so he could get a proper last fight and maybe a win. I praise this guy for missing weight in that situation, fuck the establishment
@@raymondmaglaris4149 did you even watch nates last fight he had no chance of winning. I love the guy he is a warrior no doubt and one of my favourite fighters but you blind and dumb if you thought he had much chance at all
they are cool sure but he's 5'6, stout and practices those kicks repeatedly. He's like 60. joe needs more than jujitsu and a predictable speed with his spinning back kick.
@@srgetem ? Joe Rogan is 5'8 and never fought anywhere close to the level Khamzat has fought at. He would get ragdolled and finished within 30 seconds I promise you
I like how it was reported the very day of the event that doctors were called to see Chimaev because of the weight cut and told him to hydrate back up hours before the weigh-in but barely anyone mentions it lol
Basically just say “yeah… I f-ed up, won’t happen again I’ll promise the fans” everyone will be happy including Joe for dwelling on his job as a fair announcer.
