Don’t know how you’re bustin cuz I find her physical appearance, personality, body language, expressions and the way she speaks repulsive af. Not attractive at all
I just purchased all of Annie Jacobsen's audio books after watching a number of different episodes here on JRE... I can't believe I had never heard of her previously... Thanks JOE!!
Jacobsen: Are assassinations morally justifiable? These are serious questions we should be asking as a democratic society. Comment section: iM GOnnA jErk oFF tO HEr voICe
Nah he's right bunch of betas. If I wanted pussy I'd get a girlfriend, a real man would say he's gonna get her or a lookalike trained into speaking like her if she wants to earn the Dick. Tip for you boys that's what we like. Sadly there's so few alphas left in this generation speaking of mine (24 yr old)
The CIA is compartmentalized, and some compartments operate on black budgets. This means they can do anything they want. As a normal tax paying citizen, I cross my fingers and hope they are doing the right thing. No government agency should be able to secretly raise their own funds and spend them on anything they want without any approval from anyone.
How about you advocate for some more transparency then instead of just hoping? Like I highly doubt you put your investments on hope lmao. Please try not to be a non-playable character. "I'm praying for you" as a theist would say.
Things not to do when 47 is around: lean on railings, stand under heavy objects, puke into toilets, drink drinks that have been sitting around, eat puffer fish. Did I miss anything?
When she said "there were lots of GI Joe's in the garden" I thought she was speaking metaphorically but she was speaking literally of toys in the garden. Lol
I’m jealous. I unfortunately just get a highly fabricated unauthentic voice that makes me cringe. Bummed cause I’m curious to hear more of what she has to say.
Imagine her voice in hitman, "Good evening 47, welcome to Dubai. Your target is *******, a multi billionaire of a shipping company. Tomorrow night he'll be attending a party for VIPs in Burj Khalifa hotel, the ticket to the party is in your hotel room, along with your weapons and there's a syringe from our client for you to eliminate the target. Our client also requested this to be quite and no witnesses, good luck 47, and do enjoy the party."
I knew a guy who was a retired Army Green Beret who used to work with the CIA. He referred to them as the company store. He said he participated in the mission that ended Che Guevara. I am not sure in what capacity he participated, but I believed him. He was an incredibly intelligent, very lonely man who rubbed people the wrong way due to his lack of social skill, but he was an interesting person to know. I often wish I had stayed in touch with him. In fact I tried contacting him a few years ago and found out he had passed just a few months that. I was so disappointed in myself for not doing it much sooner.
the MOST interesting people i've ever met have been the quiet reserved type. Most people ain't got shit to say, just wanna hear themselves talk lol. The quiet ones seem to stay quiet unless you mention some shit that's worth talking about lol.
Eddie Bravo should have popped out of nowhere and said "Could you see the earth's curvature or the stars through the scope? No? Exactly, neither exist."
My Dad was OSS WWII... he always said... "believe none of what you hear and half of what you see"... OSS became a private org when the CIA was created... she is spot on...
@@jasetran2186 Spoken like someone who only reads op-eds. Most journalism is just facts. But opinions are what get clicks, and get shared around by people more. That’s why it seems like everything is an op-ed. If you actually look for news on your own instead of just clicking on bullshit that idiots share on social media, you’ll quickly find that you’re just ignoring real journalism.
@@SnailHatan nah dude. If you count on the major news networks for real journalism then you’ll be waiting for all eternity because they don’t do real journalistic reporting. EVER!!! There are some true investigative journalists still around but they’re not mainstream and probably not on television.
You can be programmed to kill and not think twice about it just like how you can be trained to be offended by everything. This was all figured out a very long time ago.
Sure, this is the reason why the advertising (propaganda) industry is worth so much money. You cant fool all the people all the time, but you can fool enough people enough of the time to make a profit out of bullshit.
If your weak minded yes that very possible It’s kinda ironic that people that we are taught to respect like that military guy is very weak minded He might be tuff But very weak minded
Loved all her books, can’t wait for her next one. So glad Joe brought her on, she has a deep plethora of knowledge, should have her on the show again sometime.
Imagine this! Someone who has interviewed a lot of cia agents, people in the top positions is going around spilling government secrets in her books? Do you think the govt. will allow that? Also for the whole podcast she kept plugging her books. She has mastered the art of talking on the mic. Shes purposely speaking softly and whispering in the mic. These are pure propaganda techniques shes using to feed her lies and manipulate us into buying her books. Also i dont understand why will american people question the govt if chiese are able to achieve cloning before the americans? Hell to that, are americans even aware that there technological advancements going on all over the world, much better than the americans? What kind of bubble do you guys live in ? This podast was only propaganda and straight up BS. Hope you all see through the facade.
Whenever some Only Fans slag or bitter Feminazi accuses me of being misogynistic, I always say "no, I just have standards...like Annie Jacobsen". She's just hands down an amazing woman❤
Besides the UFO part when she's like “go read my book, go read my book, go read my book, go read my book, go read my…”. Like damn, now I don't want to.
Jesse She's definitely a character...Also, why Metal Gear Solid? Sure, she is discussing topics that relate to the theme of the game, but she's a journalist, not a spy...
@@Americansikkunt she could still be a knowledgeable contact in the series. You're looking too into a game with gigantic mechs that can shoot rail guns and missiles with invisible ninjas and vampires.
CHE GUEVARA fought against imperialism. In his Argel speech he also attacks the way the Soviet Union behaved against other socialist countries. He saw the chilean slave miners working to death for the US corps, he went to central america and he saw the mass killings of farmers by the US military, they were just asking better wages to the United Fruit corp. A US planned-coup took place in Guatemala and Che was there working as a doctor (because he joined far later to the cuban project). There, in Guatemala he witnessed the bombings against a democratic government. The coup made him moving into Mexico where he joined the Castros. Before this, he was just a hippie doctor traveling all over latin america looking for medical jobs. Then he invaded Cuba for the Revolution against the cuban tropical dictator Batista, who gave away the entire Cuba to the gangster mobsters and the US government. Cuba was Las Vegas, but wilder. Cubans could not enter certain areas of their own country, which was already privatized for large US companies, there was poverty and hunger (without the 70 years economic blockade that exists now). And the Revolution WON. Working on Schools and Medicare was his first jobs after the Revolution. He knew all about US gov poisoning all over the americas. He did not launch atomic bombs like US or Rusia, when CIA tried to invade Cuba of course everyone was stressed, then he said that thing about nuclear weapons, BUT NOT because he was a sick cu-cu nuclear war supporter like some CIA guys actually were back then. And Come on, obviously he took care of traitors, thats what everyone does when your life and your army is in danger. It is amazing how this "journalist" CLEANS every inch of the former president and the agency blaming on Che what 2 big super power (US&SU) countries were fighting for: supremacy in nuclear weapons. They killed Che because he wanted a better development for latin america, something the former us president saw wrong. US made hundreds of bloody coups all over latin america since 1800's. But hey: CHE GUEVARA IS THE BAD GUY HERE.
And he did so much good by... mass killing, and rape was prevalent under his command.... a lot of the stuff you said about the US is right. But you're trading one bad master for another. Che was no good guy either.
“ I was the CIA director. We lied, we cheated, we stole. It’s - it was like - we had entire training courses. It reminds you of the glory of the American experiment.” - Mike Pompeo, Texas A&M University (April 15, 2019)
True, but soon it will just be drones with guns... then as we remove the human component the issue becomes one of at what line in the sand do we stop killing people. What level of offense becomes too low.
What people don't seem to understand is that when you accept the morality in the US conducting things like these then they automatically accept that other countries may freely eliminate people they percieve as threats in a similar manner. You should keep in mind that the German army during World War 2 initially rejected the idea of the Brandenburgers due to the simple fact that they broke the rules of conventional warfare in that they werent uniformed with the german army insignia. While It might be a stretch to say that the morality of the US army is worse than the nazi's I think It's worth pointing out that the idea of this kind of warfare was rejected initially by the german wehrmacht.
Parameter one of the guys I mentioned earlier was telling me about the other countries that use them (Russia, England, japan, Israel, Germany) and that the Russians also use lone operators that do amazing things “they’re showing me this thermal image of this building with... like 300 people in it and you see this one little dot go in and do whatever it did then leave and the heat signatures are all just fading to background.” Ya it sounds cool but where is the line drawn on what gets you killed, according to him they had to take a picture of the target and get a blood sample “we get in and out, we kill everyone, you don’t want them behind you.” To bring that back to the original point, other than the fact that the building is still there, how is that different than a drone strike?
@@jerkfudgewater147 Far harder to cover up a drone strike than having someone slip something into your food. I'm sure a whole lot of poison killings are listed as natural caused deaths. The bottom line issue is that when a goverment decides to kill It needs to be accountable and take responsibility for the killing.
Parameter accountable to who? Even the great America has propaganda so thick no one knows what’s real, half the story or a complete lie... google (a DARPA creation) changes what it shows people based on what it thinks they want, what are the chances it’s not hiding stories deemed unflattering. The people this video, the South American media and this comment thread are talking about are not killing people with poison slipped into food, bullets made of poison sure sometimes but it’s either bullets or some other violent death. When they “kill everyone” they aren’t doing that with cleverly poisoned ice cream parfait for everyone... they’re shooting them
Why did it bother her? It's the personal nature of it. Taking a life is a personal thing on it's own, but touching someone while you do it is on a different level. There is a detachment with the rifle, there is distance. With a knife, you could smell the other person.
@@tidefanyankee2428 if it’s an isis militant or jihadist than I would gladly do it with a screw driver .. wouldn’t blink an eye , matter of fact I hope I feel it as much as possible.
@@cruzanassassin it doesn’t matter what they think lol. I truly hope you aren’t American or from the free world although I can tell you already are. Not sure if you’re even truly aware of the savagery that happens in that part of the world. I am positive you wouldn’t last 24 hours without severe ptsd forming.
@@PrinceOfTheCity1 they literally say the same things about the west... You're in the west thinking they're spreading propaganda... While they're thinking the exact same thing... You literally said u would love to kill then with an ice pick... They see messages like that and it confirms to them the west are savages... Just like u would think if u saw one of them say they would love to kill a US soldier with an ice pick... Both parties think they have a legit beef and the other is evil that they must eradicate
The morality of CIA assassins: Psyche, there is none. Error 404, can't be found. Uncle Sam points, they shoot. They're bad guys once their in your scope.
Make no mistake, the 'Defense Department' is a rebranding of what was once called the War Department. We now have endless wars that have nothing to do with 'defense' or security. It's about economics.
Actually, the Department of the Army is the direct legal successor to the Department of War. The Department of the Army and the Department of the Navy used to be separate and report directly to the President. Now it's the Departments of the Army, Navy, and Air Force all reporting to the Secretary of Defense who reports to the President.
We've been in a perpetual state of war since our founding. Research the history of American war/armed conflict. There have been VERY few years (a surprisingly low number) that we have been at "peace".
1947-48 the national defense establishment combined the war department with the navy department simultaneously splitting the war department into the army & air force departments. With this the ucmj unified the court martial stuff and a defence secretary and 3 service secretaries overseeing this apparatus.
War is a business. As long as the military complex is able to buy politicians like you buy lap dances at a tittie bar this cruel joke of "fighting for our freedoms" will never end.
JFK fricking LOVED the CIA, just not when their work shows up on the news. That is why he had the CIA try to kill Castro, and support the people who overthrew Diem in Vietnam, although ironically someone killed Kennedy a couple days before the South Vietnamese military (including at least one VC undercover operator) killed Diem.
When she started talking about visiting with the relatives of Che Guevara and Vo Nguyen Giap of the Vietnam conflict, I ordered the book on Amazon Prime.
@@theyeticlutch3486 I was made aware of the book because of the 100 times she mentioned it. But I wanted to buy it after she spoke about something I have interest in, in this case how the U.S. government works behind closed doors, in detail.
Alexander Daly That was what I was thinking! I have trouble relaxing/calming my brain/sleeping, & love ASMR. This lady has a voice made for that, doesn't she?
I'm always blown away by how Joe is able to just get it. He's never served, yet his open mindedness and general insight is just amazing and he just gets it. Not just with the mentality of the military, but seemingly with every subject that is brought up on his show.
The best professor I had at University was Dr. G. He had served with the OSS & he helped me deal with some PTS from my time in Vietnam. Since I’m in my mid-70s I’m pretty sure he’s passed, but he helped me bring a lot of what we do I to perspective. We must understand the times we live in, to understand what we do.
Was this by any chance at Montana or Wyoming, and was he Filipino? My dad had a prof that was a "tunnel rat", but some of the stories he's mentioned sounds more like SOG and less like a Marine tunnel man
Ron-Lam, Not knocking your Prof, but it is hard to shine a turd into a diamond. The Military Industrial Complex never saw a war that they didn't like and they are masters at justifying conflict$$$ Given everything that we know about the Vietnam conundrum, it is undeniable that we had absolutely Zero business fighting there. It is ridiculous how many battles we wage, and I am surprised that the American population are not outraged at the blood and treasure we squander frivolously around the globe. Not an armchair General here- over a quarter century of military service, and yes, I did deploy to war zones.
@@duranbailiff5337 --- which brings up Afghanistan and Ukraine. We should not be instigating and escalating these wars... but we're there at the behest of the Military Industrial Complex... and the motives are Financial PROFIT.
@@diannebutler1807 one could argue that the U.S. should clean up after themselves after they leave a mess. As per Ukraine, didn't NATO get Ukraine to get rid of their nuclear arsenal in exchange for protection, practically opening the doors for a Russian invasion?
@Hulk Hogan then watch the Nazi clip and see how much credability she gets back that you think she lost. Area 51 is all disinformation anyway. Who knows where to start.
Truly one of the most fascinating people I have ever listened to, incredibly thought provoking, what I would give to sit down and talk to her for an hour.
She no doubt thinks so too, low registering feminine voices are attractive, which I also have no doubt that she's been told she's in possession of... She is fully aware of herself
@@BryonLetterman I was thinking the exact same thing. Like shes the computers voice in the spaceship telling you things like, "Automatic Navigational System engaged".
@@thefateweaverchannel2288 like how is the softness or tone of her voice in of it’s self deceptive? Like I guess you were getting at she’s talking about some dark subject matter but her voice is simultaneously soothing to listen to but Idk lol
As a former member of a Northern Irish paramilitary, I owe no one an apology, It's a flip of the coin what side we're born into...you do what you think is right at the time which is all these people have done/still do.
@@nicholasleach8770 The KGB didnt murder citizens they murdered politican dissidents.. ask the clintons and FBI about that.. America has been kiiling its own citizens for decades
@apx. pegasus Geopolitical hegemony? Do you even know a single thing about the Korean Peninsula? Clearly not.. The reason N.Korea even has a nuclear program is because America designed the conditions for it.. The Bush/Clinton/Obama regime have intentionally taunted invasion to force N.Korea to allocate resources to military and nuclear deterence,and since theyre communist/command economy this means starvation for their people.. So that the US can make them food-aid dependent and at the same time have a nuclear program to point to for a reason to invade. Clinton/Obama/Deep state whateve you want to call it.. The SWAMP.. does not want N.Korea to denuclearize. Thats what Jon Bolton meant when he said he sees the "Libya Model" for N.Korea. Thats why Trump fired him. Trump saw through all of this from the start. Thats why he was the first President in American history to cross that redline. He should honestly win a Nobel Prize and Im a leftist. But the Democrats/CIA/Military industrial complex are still trying to make sure that doesnt work out.. You should really have a proper look at the world some time and get out of your fake Propaganda CNN world
I worked as a "support" guy in Air Force Special Operations...we would actually separate folks (like discharge them from the service) and they would go perform a mission and technically they were civilians. After the operation, they would come back and get reinstated in the same position/rank/whatever that they before. The guy who set up the landing strip for the rescue effort for the hostages in Iran, he was Mr Carney when he was setting up those lights.
Official cover or unofficial cover. They even had their own airlines. Flew weapons to shan people to khun Sa, in Golden triangle. Flew opium out , unloaded at thai airbase, planes unmarked , radio controlled and tracked by private company in thailand. That's who started the gogo bars . Flying tigers. Lol
She comes across as very knowledgebale. I enjoyed listening to her. Just placed an order for her book. Looking forward to reading it. Hats off to Joe Rogan for inviting guests who really know they're talking about
My dad was a Vietnam Marine who unwittingly took part in the Air America scam. He always said every Marine was a member of the CIA whether they knew it or not.
@@Bigman-fh1fz they had no trouble recruiting assets out the enlisted ranks. So many Gung ho types, who would do anything with simple programming that took place in boot camp. A few were used as stooges and patsies.
The most amazing thing to me about this video is that apparently this isn't common knowledge for most people. When I was a brand new private in the Army I got sent on a temporary duty as a gopher on a master sergeant promotion board. Just taking files to the colonels and sergeants major who were reviewing the people for promotion. We'd get a list of names with their social security numbers and we'd go pull those files, put them together, and drop them off. Then put them back when they were done. Every so often we'd come across names that would be listed as Doe, John 000-00-0001; Doe, John 000-00-0002, etc. We saw plenty of special forces guys in those files with all kinds of crazy backgrounds. So couldn't figure out what the John Does were all about. We were told those were Delta Force guys on active missions so their identity was top secret. Their files were kept in a safe. When they came up an armed MP would have to escort the file from the safe to the promotion board and stand by till they were done then escort the file back to the safe. None of us were allowed to leave until those files were back in the safe. There were maybe 100 of them, E-7s up for E-8..... And that was in 1996. When we weren't at war with anybody. And that's just Delta Force. Imagine how secret the CIA guys were.
Very interesting the way they set up the covers and fronts. Inside and outside of the military. Private contractors , but in reality , a Cia operation.
During 1996 when we "weren't at war with anyone", we were, in reality: 1) Intermittently bombing Iraq over a period of 12 years in between the two Gulf Wars. 2) Staging a coup d'etat in Albania. 3) Laying the ground work for our illegal and immoral invasion of Serbia for the purposes of: a) agitating the Russians b) ensuring the free flow of Bin Laden's heroin into Europe And about a dozen other ops which have materialized into the sort of proxy warfare prescribed by the PNAC. We are always at war, don't kid yourself.
I do t understand why so many highly ranked CIA operatives would say “Annie this is how it works” knowing full well that this is a journalist that will publish all. Unless it’s what they want us to know??
Mr A ya... except anyone can be a part of that “class” we don’t have bloodlines or dynasties. Look at Jeff bezos. I remember buying a book from amazon when it wa like a couple people working out of a small building. Richest man in the f’ing world now. You just can’t do that in other countries and that way of life is what is so precious to defend. Anyone who denies equal opportunity is a moron or someone who gets off on pity. Not everyone can be a millionaire sure but everyone can be successful if you don’t do stupid shit along the way like knocking up your high school girlfriend and dropping out
Very intelligent lady, knowledgable, got a great tone in her voice. I could listen to her all day. She’s is a very skilled communicator. One of the best podcasts
I've never understood why people seem to think it's fine to drop napalm on villages but avoiding the war by quietly assassinating the guy who's causing it is a no-no.
@@docstockandbarrel no, they just make you a target for their A.I. that overrules police, fbi, and government. The masses are blindly under control by a force they pray to and call God.... but they have no fucking clue what it really is.
@@bjosezombie87 Unfortunate mistake for sure, but he did state that Khashoggi was killed by Saudi Arabia just seconds later so it was somewhat corrected by that. Probably just a poorly worded statement from Joe, I would be surprised if someone as interested in these kinds of things (as Joe is) would actually mistake it for a Turkish Embassy.
The only problem I have with her is that in the actual episode Joe asks her how she knows the guy is telling the truth and not just feeding her bullshit and she says “Why would he lie, he was at the top of the rank structure of the operation, he has no reason to lie” that just makes me wonder how true her books are. Not saying she doesn’t give factual information but at the same time it’s like well he’s the type to feed you lies to get you away from the truth
Completely agree! I don't know how much of this is boasting and exaggerations from the people she interivewed, or if she is gullible or she is fishing for the most grandiose stories to write her book. I have known many humans who will pump up their stories when they were 1/10 of relaity. I take all tales of CIA operatives with a grain of salt. Her book might be just a CIA funded propaganda to make it seem to the world they are this ever present, all powerful entity that can take you out on a whim. I take her stories for what they are, stories.
People believe what they want to believe. When that pre-existing belief is reinforced, especially by anyone with some authority, it’s often taken as if it’s evidence. People will be skeptical of one source, and then turn around and be completely convinced by another source, with little to no real evidence backing up their claim. Everyone wants to be right, but few do the hard work, or even care enough to try and prove it.
My family ran a garbage/recycling business for almost 40 years. We dealt with confidential paper shredding, as we have been certified to hold and destroy all forms of confidential paperwork, from hospital records, bank records, court documents, etc. One of the strangest occurrences of life happened when we had our community paper shredding day, which was sponsored by the local municipality. We’d clear our facility of any confidential paperwork and open up for one day for the public to bring in anything they could for shred day. Around lunchtime the last year we were open, a very professional looking and acting woman showed up in a vehicle with government plates and asked if there was a limit to the amount of material they could bring in. I said to her, “we’ll take anything you can get here, as long as it’s before the end of the day.” She came an hour before we were done for the day, this time, she had a man whom to my eye, appeared to be at least 80 years old, if not older. He was very, very German. He had a clear German accent, and was extremely sharp of the mind. Very polite as well. Anyway, this woman had your typical document boxes that paper is stored long term in. She had a Chevy suburban full of these boxes. She asked me if I could possibly double shred this paper work, as it was government property. I told her that it wasn’t necessary, as I myself was the only person after that point that would be in the building until it exchanged hands. She gave me $250 in cash to remove the shreddinga from our machine and shred it again… As I opened these boxes to shred this paper, it was quite clear to me, that I was shredding what possibly could have been the last personal rocket drawings and blueprints from some form of former German rocket engineer, whether he was a Nazi or just a German Man, I’ll never know…but what do know quite a bit about are technical drawings and blueprints for machinery, which was what I was shredding that day. Not to say too much, but I’ve thought about that day for quite some time, and I’m sure that what I witnessed was a man that was working on some sort of project for the government at some point, and his usefulness was up and he was made to dispose of anything that could implicate the government or himself. I firmly believe I disposed of what possibly should have been saved for posterity sake, whether good or bad. It’s gone forever now, but I know what I put my hands on, and it certainly wasn’t non-confidential drawings of rockets.
no, of course cia killing are not justified, as they're never killing out of necessity or self defense, they kill because they are hardcore psychopaths, which is why they can never win any of the wars they start ... in other words; she's a narcissist
Genuine question...are you a lesbian? The reason i ask is that I personally think most straight men will post similar comments (just look at the comments section for proof) ranging from the most subtle to the more sexually extreme end of the spectrum... but i wonder if gay men and straight women are NOT affected by her voice the same way straight men (and gay women?) seem to be. Straight men will "pay attention" to this women the way a gay man would not (but granted, actually take in what she is saying, were a straight man will most likely zone in and out). Or....maybe its actually more simple and everyone is affected by a voice like hers the exact same way?
@@emowookie9337 genuine question r u single? Cause if u can only pay attention to a woman if she's hot or a hot voice that's prob not a good thing. And I'm not criticizing just wondering if you have a tough being in a relationship.
