"No Country for Old Men" is a good example of films that make you think. There wasn't any music throughout the entire movie not even in the credits. Which really helped to absorb the atmosphere.
That is a great call out because of the Mandela Effect. No Country For Old Men has ZERO music but there is a feeling in your gut that tells you there was.
DeepVibes lmao for real.. it's like these idiots forget that EVERYONE GETS OLD lol. Like yeah there's a lot of celebs who look great for their age but how many of them shove needles and shit into their face. Look at Sandra Bullock who admitted to putting baby dicks on her face skin to keep it younger LOL.
Came to the comment section to say, or see, this exact counterpoint. (I was actually kinda surprised that this wasn’t *THE* top comment in the first place!)
Drive, No Country For Old Men, Nebraska are some that instantly come to mind. I dont think they are wrong that its not common but its not impossible for them to be huge hits or critically praised.
The fact that it had no music totally set the mood, in a way that it was just extremely tense. It made an unfamiliar situation feel real and uneasy. Amazing in my opinion
That's a throw away line from Joe he hasn't actually thought about. Silence or lack of communication is used regularly in films across the board. What's the Viking film starring Mads Mikkelsen? How much talking was in that? Bugger all, great movie though. Edit: Valhalla rising.
@@fredsmith-kingofthelunatic7810 It identifies a major gap in this topic, and Rogan's question, that no one ever really admits because it throw the question back at itself: The types of movies are still being made, it's just not as many people (or at least the same type of people as before) are watching them.
@@VividFilmProductions thing is, marketing is so costly, often being nearly as much as production costs. Mainstream films tend to have a marketing budget upwards of $100 million. You do get some movies getting free marketing through word of mouth, but it's often rare.
@@heavystorm1614 Marketing on average is over double the cost of production.Its a slimy side of the industry.Very closed door kind of shit.Production heads and board members basically hand picking what they want pushed and trashing good films to have a limited release or arthouse run at most.Fuckin shameful cause there are some seriously good films out there.
@@douglasfreckman8190 Yeah, I agree. I will say, there are great art house/indie/non-mainstream movies out there and they aren't hard to find. The most we can do is pay to watch them, and show our intent/desire to watch more films like that. Parasite and The Lighthouse have been my favourites of the year so far. The festival circuit does great for the smaller movies. Starting from Cannes all the way through to Tiff, the lineups never disappoint. However, you're just never going to get those movies to make 500 mil - 1 billion dollars as consistently as the typical 'blockbuster.' It is sad that so many screens are devoted to those movies. I know some studios demand most, if not all screens, opening day/week for flagship pictures...
As Quentin Tarantino once said; "the 70's years were the greatest time of American movies ever", today the world of cinema is in a sort of crisis where Superheroes's movies are dominating the industry especially, Marvel's. Fortunately, Tarantino or the own Scorsese have been the directors who have kept cinema alive.
Not to mention films like Whiplash, Birdman, The Lighthouse, The Master (pretty much all of PTA's catalogue for that matter), and hundreds of other beautiful works of art being constantly released
@@kinhamid9665 Man you can't name hundreds of other beautiful works of art constantly released. When you only mentioned four and the last one is from almost ten years ago.
I don't like the overuse of special effects. I feel like for directors of the past, they had to be creative to explore their ideas. Nolan and Tarantino are one of the few directors to build elaborate props for their movies and using minor CGI to clean up the scene.
When i watched The Revenant to my point of view it was a disappointing. DiCaprio shouldn't have win that oscar for a movie where he is crawling and and saying nothing ,The Revenant was mediocre in comparison with other movies (where he really deserved ) , but hey it was a good movie in comparrison with Pixels , Terminator Genisys or Fantastic four or Star Wars:The Force Awakens it was good enough. But movies like inside out ,the martian ,Ex Machina,the walk are much more memorable and fun to watch, well at least The Revenant tried to do something fresh but it is overrated
The reason they don't make movies like the 70s is pretty much because of one movie, Heaven's Gate. It was a western from the guy who made The Deer Hunter. In the 70s, directors were allowed pretty much total control of their movies, the studios had faith in them. During Heaven's Gate, the director demanded more and more money, and kept going over schedule. The movie was a total box office bomb, and resulted in studios going back to strictly controlling movies during the 80s to focus on cash and not on the art. Reading about Heaven's Gate is fascinating.
Was thinking Heavens Gate as soon as Joe asked the question and kept waotong for Ed to mention it. Really was sorta Ciminos fault (along with a few other movies)
Exactly. Hollywood has never been artistic and only a few of the truly great directors such as Francis Coopola Ford, Martin Scorsese and a few others of that elite rank has made films that can be considered art. The rest of Hollywood is mostly entertainment escapism
nathan wallace that’s just false. I work in the film industry. The trend towards blockbusters is quite recent. For most of the history of film, Hollywood produced films of artistic merit along with the money making crowd pleasers. Sony Classic Pictures is Sony’s arthouse Wing and still produces some of the greatest art films of the day. Until the Disney Merger the same was true of 20th century Fox and Fox Searchlight. Additionally. Scorsese didn’t start out making big budget Hollywood films. They started out making art films and built their reputation. Some of the greatest directors today make arthouse films along with big budget films. Alfonso Cuaron, Alejandro Inarritu, etc all make Hollywood films, art films, and Hollywood art films.
The Godfather was probably one of the most perfect movies ever made. Dialog that was clear and not muffled, concise editing that needed no more or less footage.
Korean movies these days are like Hollywood in the 70's. It's commercially successful but they're still making real art and directors have real stories to tell.
@@iliveinsideyourhouse3943 Legit really korean movies are like hollywood movies in the 70’s? THEN THATS GOLDEN!!!!! I WANT UR RECOMMENDATIONS THE GENRES I LIKE ARE Crime Horror Sports-Boxing Drama Thriller Yh basically that
@@samirhamzah5245 Korean films: My Sassy Girl - Romance The Chaser - Thriller I Saw The Devil - Thriller Parasite - Comedy The Handmaiden - Erotic Thriller The Wailing - Mystery Horror Train To Busan - Horror Snowpiercer - Sci-Fi The Host - Horror Comedy Mother - Drama Mystery On Your Wedding Day - Comedy Drama Burning - Thriller Minari - Drama Thirst - Horror Joint Security Area - Drama Lady Vengeance - Thriller I'm A Cyborg And That's Okay - Comedy Okja - Comedy Memories Of Murder - Mystery Thriller Crime The Good, The Bad, and The Weird - Comedy The Flu - Thriller A Tale Of Two Sisters - Horror A Bittersweet Life - Drama
@alex lu it's a joke. Because Clint Eastwood is badass in his movies, Gorillaz even made a song named Clint Eastwood. I think there are cultural differences if you don't understand. Satire.
Todd Phillips would be cool after joker, pretty rare to have a director make one of the best comedies and one of the best dramas of their generation. Also Martin Scorsese. The most interesting one I could imagine would probably be Stanley Kubrick though
I remember watching Fight Club and turning it off after 30 mins for being slow. I watched it again and to this date I name it as my favorite movie. These movies are not for everyone but if done correctly they can be some of the greatest movies of all time.
@@theindiediary5950 Same here, I'm famous for liking what my friends consider slow, boring movies, but I never quite got interested enough in the Godfather to bother trying any of the sequels.
The godfather 1 and 2 are definately top 5 cinematic experiences of all time. Doesn't matter how they portrayed the Italian mob. That's not what makes the movies great. It's the intense story telling.. brilliant music filming everything was just masterclass with those movies. Number 3 was a great movie in its own right but compared to the first 2 it's child's play to be honest
Norton’s smart and old school enough to understand what the real reason is behind why movies like those in the 80s-90s aren’t made anymore but understands that if he does dare utter his TRUE opinion, he will be shunned and probably permanently for life from any acting and roles. Art, which movies like The Godfather, Alien(s), No Country for Old Men, Full Metal Jacket, Fight Club and beyond are, cannot have a “politically correct point system” to satisfy. Movies made in the years 1960-2010ish were amazing because the freedom to create a story without any afterthought of which of the now 900 groups it may offend was there which allowed both the directors/writers and the actors to write, make, and act out movies without anything held back and with the story and cinematic quality being the main focus. Now, literally EVERYTHING is ALL about appeasing the left. Marxism has taken over everything from Hollywood to academia to social media to congress, and as usual, Marxism destroys and sucks the life out of everything it touches. - Ex Soviet Union citizen now living in the U.S who knows a thing or two about life under totalitarian control.
The decade from 1967 to 1977 has been called Hollywood's second golden age. So many classics. This was when the big studios were making expensive flops and suddenly an inexpensive little film called Easy Rider made a fortune. Cleared the way for young filmmakers like Coppola, Scorcese, DePalma, Lucas, and many others to make films without much interference from the studios. Bonnie and Clyde, The Graduate, Midnight Cowboy, Deliverance, French Connection, Network, The Exorcist, Godfather one and two, Taxi Driver, Jaws, Rocky, Chinatown, One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, Dog Day Afternoon, Carrie, Apocalypse Now, American Graffiti, Annie Hall-- it's a long list. I doubt you could cite a better decade; also these were all made by major studios, not scrappy little independents trying to do something original. Now the best stuff is being done for streaming services and TV.
And then came Spielberg and Jaws and Lucas and Star Wars. Big, exciting movies that made huge profits. And that's the answer: Blockbusters can make huge profits.
It was good for like an hour and a half or 2 hours, but the ending was HORRIBLE, GOD AWFUL and single handedly ruined the whole movie. Its like the entire movie had a brilliant 2 hour set up for...nothing. for garbage. Not a good movie.
RU-vid and social media is to blame. People seem to not be able to take their time with anything anymore, everything has to be digested in 2 minutes because it can.
Absolutely. I took a class about this very thing at uni and it's quite shocking how much films are tailored to sell the most tickets possible. Even adding a few swear words in just to make it pg13 (Which is the most popular rating)
I’ve literally noticed my whole life that the year 99 spawned some of the best movies. Fight club, the matrix, American beauty, the boondock saints, sixth sense, Detroit rock city, girl interrupted, jawbreaker (lol), ghost dog, the hurricane, man on the moon etc etc
All of you above are incorrect and Greco (OP) is spot on. Norton understands that left wing Marxist ideas have permeated everything from Hollywood and beyond but gets that if he dares speak out the truth, he will be shunned and ostracized probably for life which means no more acting and money. I don’t blame him..
1999 was awesome, the best year of movies i lived.i saw many of them in the theater: American Beauty, The Insider, Being John Malkovich, Magnolia, Boys Don't Cry, The Matrix, Fight Club, Election, The Straight Story, The Talented Mr Ripley, The Sixth Sense, The Limey - Sodherbergs Masterpiece- , Office Space, Three Kings, The Iron Giant, The Green Mile, Eyes Wide Shut, South Park Bigger, Longer, and Uncut (the best musical film ever to me) Most of those movies are.classics, all from only one single year There were even great comedied: Austin Powers 2, Analyse This.
One thing I noticed with older movies versus many movies today is that older movies tend to focus heavily on the face and facial expressions of the actors. So whenever I see a new movie that is actually focusing on raw acting ability and facial expressions it's generally safe to say i'm watching a good movie.
Everyone needs to watch “There Will Be Blood” by Paul Thomas Anderson (my fav director). The beginning of the movie is 30 minutes of no dialogue, and he pulled it off flawlessly.
@@nekitamol1k242 He’s explaining what they talked about, thus fundamentally disagreeing with OP’s statement that they “didn’t say anything”. Pretty obvious really
@Skeptical Slim That is not entirely true. Sure, studios want to make a profit, nobody denies that. Let's look at two different movie franchises...Ghostbusters and James Bond. Are you saying that neither of the latest installments are non agenda driven, and that ticket sales was the sole motivation behind these movies? How about Star Wars, or the Marvel series of movies in general? If they remake Jaws or The Birds, they would work in that climate change is the reason for an increase in shark/bird attacks. Lots of subtle and not so subtle agenda driven plots and subplots that alter or change a story into an agenda driven vehicle.
@@jamie49868 umm James bond was idolizing mi6 and making them look good. Their was a lot of references to the cold war. So yeah quite political. The original 4,5,6 star wars was a group of rebel fighting a corrupt regime who were called terrorist by said regime.
Also Red Turtle and Le Dernier Combat. Amblin, Spielberg's first professional level film (though it's a short at 30 minutes) has no dialogue at all. It got him noticed.
+sukrpunch A quiet place was not a major studio production. The problem is that the vast majority of films in the cinema are big productions that all look the same and sound the same.
A film without dialogue was made recently and the film is incredible. It's called "All is Lost" by Robert Redford, about a seasoned sailor trying to survive on the open ocean.
Because the 70s was about pushing the envelope and creativity, now it’s about money and money only in the laziest way possible. At least independent and foreign films are still delivering quality
Yes Drive is amazing and was inspired by 80's films. There has been a resurgence of these type of movies but it depends if people are willing to look or not.
@@mck7646 i'd say aesthetically Drive was reminiscent of the 80s with its soundtrack, neon colours, clothing, vehicles, etc but cinematically I think it's more similar to 70s films than 80s films. Like old Steve McQueen or Clint Eastwood movies or the 1978 film The Driver. but that's just me nitpicking. Under the Skin is also another film with little dialogue and a real minimalistic vibe. But most of these movies are pigeon-holed into the arthouse category of movies and not fully embraced by all viewers like you say. Also Dunkirk is a big one too.
@@louisfreeman9551 Came to say this 👍 I can still remember seeing it in the cinema and was pleasantly surprised at how captivating it was despite no dialogue or 2 way interaction
1) The Artist 2) The Revenant 3) Mad Max Fury Road 4) There will be Blood 5) Shape of Water. These are just some of the movies I can think of right of the bat that would have long quiet scenes. Joe is like those old guys who says they don't make em like they used to, ignoring great contemporary cinema.
Bill Simmons asked the same question before and the answer was pretty simple: a lot of those slow burn dramas moved to cable tv & streaming services. Movies may not be at the level of 1970s anymore, but tv series have never been better.
Ryan Fernandez That’s no excuse. Who cares about TV series, they take too much time. Rather have a solid two hours of a movie and use spare time for other things in life.
You think so..? I find a lot of series to have bad scenarios and scripts, and seldom is it perfect like those old movies. The amount of plot holes or stupid behaviour to stretch the episodes is tedious!
Fight Club and American History X have big cult followings and he was Hulk once. He's not a mainstream star because he doesn't do stupid mainstream movies and he's not a handsome hunk like a Brad Pitt or Zac Efron. The mainsteam star's are really just mainly the guy's that the Women masturbate over.
@@andrewcutler1380 He's starred in 3 movies that have likely been watched by every fan of serious film and 1 major blockbuster. The rest are smaller independent releases. He's not like a Tom Hanks or Will Smith who's whole filmography is largely box office hits.
But when one door closes another one opens because even though studios are more strict its much easier to do things without a studio because of the internet.
His interview here has 2.3 million views, late-night talk shows get around 1.5 - 3 million views per night. So it's about the same as a late night talk show appearance, though he gets much more screen time here.