Johan’s Thoughts on Tomorrow’s Gravel Stage | Tour de France 2024 Stage 8 | JB2 

The JB2 content is so brilliant! The show gets better each year! The Peacock commentators are light years behind you guys when it comes to useful analysis. I literally fast forward through their takes. Great job guys!!

Excellent analysis. I consider Johan and Chris Horner (chesterfield/knucklehead😉) the two best cycling commentators - with maybe Bruyneel having the edge, because of his sources, and his 'inside baseball' analysis 👍

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If you look closer, Abrahamsen didn’t just gain 20 kg; he also grew a couple of inches. This wasn’t simply an intentional transformation from a lean climber by adding muscle. It was due to delayed puberty caused by dietary restrictions and intense training. He was essentially trapped in a middle schooler’s body and only developed his natural adult body shape by removing some restrictions and letting nature finish its job. You can't just start feeding a grown-up climber like Bardet, add 20 kg, and suddenly make him a Roubaix contender-it doesn’t work like that.

Appreciate you guys so much! Great vibes always

If one of the favourites loses the tour because of this stage there will be trouble

I only see a downside with gravel segments. The tour cannot be won by riding a gravel stage but it can certainly be lost due to the higher chance of mechanical's and crashes.

I'm a fan of the gravel stage. Anything can happen. I think Wout has been biding his time!

Excellent commentary!

JB2 has become must watch analysis. Lance better keep this show on the WEDU channel!

Also a comment about the stage with the gravel sectors, Road racing has a time cut. If you don't make it to the finish within the time your TDF is over. Gravel races and the logistics of getting bike changes and assistance could turn this upside down. What if the same rider has multiple issues? How are they going to work it out so no rider gets tossed out of the race? I see a lot of equipment failures possibly if weather conditions are bad. And we know there is going to be crashes. It is just unnecessary to put gravel sections in the TDF.

Love this analysis

Thanks, great show. I looked at some of tomorrow's gravel sections on Google Earth. Johan is right, it's crazy. Narrow gravel roads and sharp turns in and out. The TDF could turn on a flat or a crash.

In a post race interview, Powless or Bisseger, said the word came from their car to give up on the break. He didn’t seem that upset about it, but he was being careful in his comments about that decision - disappointed for sure.

Thank you Johan! " Road " racing !

If it rains, then trouble. If not, it's like Paris-Roubaix.

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I was also wondering what the heck EF was up to. Vaughters being in the car explains it all. When he was being interviewed the other day by NBC his opening statement was that he had no say in the team tactics which is BS. Before the stage Powless said he was looking forward to the stage since it was an excellent chance for him to get a win in a breakaway.

The Tour needs a 50km TT

I wish they had Johan on NBC

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I was just waiting for Johan's daily rant on UCI, my ASMR routine moment.

i agree and disagree with johan on many things but i think his point is way off on the gravel stage. the tour de france is bike racing, not only road racing. for many years, mainly in mountains the roads were not even paved, “gravel like” if you will. also makes the tour more complete, needing the skills to survive/race a parkour like this makes a worthy test in a race that’s supposed to represent the biggest test in the sport

Fun fact: Adam Hansen himself used many times to joke with the public and drink beers with them... 🤔

MVdP, Mohoric, Pogi, and Van Gils are the favorites on this gravel stage in Troyes. Pidcock and Bernal are specialist on this gravel but he will help teammate CRC on this stage. Watch out maybe there are gonna be attacks in the GC.

Arnaud de Lie's time will come. He certainly has the talent.

Now I know why Visma selected Jan Tratnik for the TDF even though he is moving over to Bora. He needs to be riding behind Jonas the entire stage 9.

Would Johan elaborate on his dislike for Vaughters?

I’m with Johan, I don’t like the gravel. ROAD RACING!

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Out of curiosity, it’s not the first time I hear Johan mentioning ‚youtube kids’ - anyone specific in mind or it’s just a saying?

Jonas will NOT be able to hang with POGI if he goes on a gravel sector....

UCI reminds me of SCOTUS

Look for MVDP to make his mark.

He who thinks Biniam doesn’t look like a sprinter need to get familiar with Noah Lyles.

Bruneel's snide little remarks about other YT commentators are a bad look, especially as actual WT teams are hiring (seeing value in) these guys. It is "punching down", and he should stop it.

Johan, the derision directed at LR channel is petulant and unnecessary. A rising tide floats all boats so take the position that you can lift other voices.

Maybe they need a dropper post. Since there's no high mountain climb, so a bit of weight might fine? I hate this gimmick gravel or cobble stage. It's a 3 week races, and there's too much luck play on it. Besides it's "road racing" not gravel. 🙄🙄 Want to spectacular.. watch unbound. On the other note, I fear for Primoz. The guy is prone to crash, and tomorrow will be marred with crashes. I just hope all the GC guys all stay upright. Up until now, we have a very exciting GC race.

Hey Johan, 99.7% of the people that watch this podcast are fans watching it on TV. And if they are anything like me, they like things like the gravel sections added to the Tour. Since I'm not working on any team, I really don't care how much more challenging it is for any of them. In fact, I like it better if it's harder and more challenging for the teams. I makes it that much more interesting to watch. And let's face it, anything they can do to make the non-mountain stages more compelling is a better watch for me, the guy sitting at home watching on TV.

hmmm lance 58 to 78....

Fines for kissing your wife. They wanted him to make out with his transitioned husband. Regarding the strange EF breakaway. I thought they were picking up the third EF rider when they dropped from the front. Tomorrow we will be back to the tour roots. Farms, eggs, bacon and a bottle of wine from the local café. Then off for the next 300km ride.

The best should be determined by who’s stronger on the bike and who has the better team, not because of crashes or mechanicals. this gravel stage seems like a cheap way to manufacture drama at the risk of injury

Agree, fine for Bernard is silly, my 85 year old mom loved the human element of this when it happened 💛

why Johan don't like Jonathan Vaughters?

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Gravel stages do not belong on the tour full stop.. Team time trials however! philpson looks unbalanced powerwise with left side underpowered... and why he seemingly always goes right when he hammers it and losing bike lengths.think eg were waiting for thier teammate to join in but he couldnt get away from the pack

Johann and the UCI are like oil and water.

First! Hi Johan!

Juian Benards fine was about safety for the other riders coming through...duhh!

All the reasons Johan hates it are all the reasons why it's a good idea

EF will EF

Its the first time I hear Johan give a bad take which is really surprising (maybe it's just because he hates EF manager ;) ) The EF Tactic was pretty obvious. They knew they didn't have a chance to win the stage with such a small breakaway of only 3 people with 5-6 sprint teams chasing them. When the lead went up to 2 minutes and they were only 3 they intentionally dropped from Abrahamson, because they wanted more people in the breakaway. They didn't want to waste energy just "to be in the breakaway", they aren't competing for the polka dot jersey but for a stage win. With a strong and big breakaway they might've had a chance today. Abrahamson on his part didn't want more people in the breakaway because all he cares about are the polka dot jersey points so he didn't mind to pull hard. When the 2 EF guys dropped from Abrahamson (intentionally) Bettiol and Healy were pulling hard on the climb to close the gap and encourage more teams like IPT or Trek who didn't have a sprinter to join the breakaway. In order to make a bigger breakaway with a better chance to win. I was actually surprised no other team tried to join the breakaway at that part. In my opinion, EF did they right call, they tried to go on a breakaway with a big group. When they saw it didn't work they adjusted and tried to make the breakaway bigger and then they made the right call to call the guys from the breakaway back in order to not waste energy on a breakaway that didn't have a chance. The only bad call that might hurt them was that they pulled too early for the breakaway in the flat/descent instead of waiting for the climb which might've cause a bigger breakaway in the first place.

Oh yea JB you still haven’t gone flying with us at Aspen Paragliding. George’s family and Lance’s family have gone. You’re up JB! Ask Lance to call Alex at Aspen Paragliding

EF sucks.

A French guy in his last Tour wins the first stage... Vino keeps up with Pogacar despite being off for a month... Now Cav breaks the record... seems more a WWF story line than a TdF...

Lol I love the shot at the know it all, never a pro , Playstation playing, RU-vidrs. No names needed..😂

Come on Johan. The constant digs about Vaughters is getting pretty old. It’s like you’re a bunch of bullies trying to impress the head bully Lance. 🤷. It’s toxic and you’re better than that.

gravel favors Pidcock...he wins tomorrow. Think his Starda Bianche victory.

give the people what they want! the wedu way. stage9 :MVP vs WOUT vs POGI ,fight

Who ever does the Le Tour reporting for Google News must watch y'all's show for Jahon's expertise. They had a headline about the difference in calorie consumption with Tadej!! Hit the big-time with that one! 👍🏻💯 Tomorrow is going to be Haywire! 🚵🏽‍♀️🇨🇵