I have read 20th century boy's and I've seen monster and read it too and i conclude that friend can do mass scale manipulation but johan can do individual manipulation .
@@ggxsky4811actually no one knows because the 911 Kinderhine incident was never explained clearly so we don't know johan's true potential about manipulating multiple ppl at one time
Johan wins because Johan has an unlimited IQ and is known as the best manipulator in the history of anime to date, the weakness (friend) is depending on technology while Johan does not, the weakness (Johan) is not even known yet, Johan once said "he cannot be manipulated or deceived because he has become the final stage of it", IQ (Johan) is unlimited, while (friend) 125-159M so Johan should win because, Johan's perfection is a monster
Fax , because when i read the manga of 20th century boys i notice that all manipulator of anime doesn't shows there emotions like just a same face and there expressions but friend does and resulted will me distractively manipulate
Johan was going to do what friend is doing but after getting past memories he choose tenma gun shoot scene. So creater made version of Johan that not divert his plan. Like friend got virus and he use it as power Johan would get economy. And it's about friend one. He was same as Johan but not want to end world. Friend 2 make everything supernatural so it's out of competition. Friend not do struggle so Johan was his capability. Johan was philosophy so here we got his potential by this different story
Actually in the new edition of 20th century boys there was only 1 friend, not 2 friends, it was katsumata all along and fukubei never existed, friend manipulated everyone into believing that there are 2 friends.
Personally, I always thought 20th century boys was a far better story than monster. Not sure why monster became more popular, probably because it got an anime while 20th century boys stayed a manga
For me, Monster is better. I really love both. But I am sad about why 20th Century Boys don't have an anime. If it had an anime, I am sure about it would break the internet.
I saw first death note in that i like light the most then i saw monster then i like johan the most fav anime character now you are praising friend i don't know it may be more legendary goosebumps 🥶
My opinion Outsmarting: Johan high-extreme diff Manipulation: Johan extreme diff Intelligence: Johan high diff Analysis abilities/leadership/influence: Friend FSIQ: Johan high diff Eq: both Overall Johan extreme diff
His far more realistic than friend, people nowadays don’t believe shit that’s actually true, friend made most people on earth believe that he had supernatural powers
@@davidg5709 Ngga, Johan was manipulating people to kill them selves 💀💀💀 (I the writer didn't even give explanation for his inhuman "manipulation"). I mean why would someone kill himself for a random mother fcker?
@@davidg5709 the human mind can be easily tricked let a magician do some retarded trick and no one sees the wires and we go WOW HE CAN REALLY DO MAGIC?!?
@@davidg5709 So sects that are gaining more and more power are unrealistic? There was no historical person who was attributed with supernatural powers? Staged scenarios that staged disasters and played to their advantage? There is nothing mystical. He is an embodiment of lies.
@@therealxemperor7423 only L and LN yuuichi are the ones that can match em and *IMO* can Take em down. (Light ain't winning against both of em💀) others are overrated fodders😹
Memory goes to Friend. He literally remembered smells and mundane things from the past to create a city. But Johan is not far behind, he was able to remember Anna even when they experimented with his mind and soul. I would give that point to both of them.
Why this world embarrassed darkness so much why they don't understand darkness is nothing in front of light. If they don't like them then they should be embarrassed by the shadow not darkness.
Friend has been manipulating people for way more time, and his older then Johan, seduction goes to Friend because the only seduction feat Johan has is dressing as a woman and seducting a guy, while Friend seducted Kenji's sister and Mitsuyo
Friend took over the world bro and convinced people that fiction was reality you can’t compared a charming blonde dude to the president of world in terms of anything relating to manipulation or communication.
There's bro who made more than 50 people kill each other when he was just a kid (nah i guess he's not my bro) And on the other hand there is Friend who is a mass manipulater
